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    Barbaro Updates: 46

    updates are now here.

    Update 464: Daily Racing Form has an article of Lost in the Fog: Doctors think Lost in the Fog has cancer that appears a little more current. The following is an excerpt:

    "They know the mass is in the spleen itself," he said on Wednesday. "Right now, it looks good. It hasn't metastasized and moved to other parts. But when you look at a sonogram, it won't show very small things. That's why they're doing the camera search.

    "If they find more, it is not a good thing. At that point, we probably wouldn't do surgery. If it does look good, at the middle of next week surgery will be performed to remove the spleen. It's a very delicate operation. They say there's a 50-50 chance he will make it through. If all goes well, he will recover and live a normal life."

    Update 463: Kathy Anderson just called (7:45 pm) and she was just leaving Barbaro, who was laid down, in an upright position, eating fresh picked grass from a bowl! As she was leaving his masseuse was arriving, who prefers to massage him laying down as he is then less active. Kathy's report was upbeat.

    Update 462: Dr. Richardson Chat at the Bloodhorse. Interesting excerpts below:

    The only reason I became a vet was because I fell in love with horses, and I became very involved working with horses. If you do that, you get to point where you love working on horses. I can't deny the fact he is a very smart and particularly charismatic horse. He is remarkably quick to pick up when you're trying to help him. Those are the sorts of things that make you like the horse a lot. You are also talking about being in the presence of greatness, and I think he truly was a great horse who did not have a chance to show it. All those things combined, it is hard not to be emotionally involved with it. I also have a long relationship with and like for the Jacksons and Matzes.

    and

    My favorite part initially was the challenge of the procedure and the aftercare. My favorite part now is simply trying to save his life. He is a very personable young colt, truly charismatic.

    and

    He gets ICU checks by the nurses four times daily (vital signs, checking how much he is eating, drinking, manure/urine production etc.) He is fed grain mixes four times daily. He receives free choice alfalfa and timothy mix hay. I change his LH foot bandage around 6 am and walk him about 30 minutes in the late afternoon. He is no longer being put in a sling. Previously, we were letting him out of the sling from about 7 pm until 9 am. The Jacksons and Mr. Matz visit at various times and Mrs. Jackson always brings some Lael Farm grass hand picked for him. He gets groomed and bathed at various times. Medications are given at various intervals. Previously he was on a number of constant intravenous infusions and epidural pain medication. His management is much simpler right now because he is doing so well.

    and

    The hoof wall (the hard [keratinized] portion) including the sole was removed. We eventually removed about 90% of it. The time to completely regrow a hoof varies, but a reasonable estimate would be 9-12 months.

    and

    He actually is spending no time at all in the sling right now. His comfort improved to the point that when he was in the sling, he wasn't "using" it. The sling is only bearing the horse's weight when he wants it to. It isn't possible for a horse to continuously hang with all of their weight in the sling. If they do so, they nearly always eat and breathe poorly. Also, nearly all will get serious rub sores if they are constantly hanging in the sling.

    Update 461: Quick reminder, Dr. Richardson will host a chat at Bloodhorse.com at 6 pm east coast time. I will post the direct link to the chat here once the link is live.

    Kennett Florist provided this update today:

    What a fun day to go to NBC! We delivered ice cream and all the fixin's for sundaes... fudge, carmel, whipped cream, nuts and cherries! Dr Sweeney was kind enough to send out an email yesterday, so there was quite a crowd! The place is just electric (maybe partially from the sugar), but in my opinion because of all the good news this week! Bobby gets to feel the sun on his back each day and snort and chomp to his hearts content, what could be better!!

    Bobby got his carrots and treats to go along with the staff's sugar high. We also brought up some goodies for some of the other shifts, since they miss out on breakfasts and such.

    Thanks to all of you the spirits continue to be high!

    WE BELIEVE!!

    WM & CL left this poem about Mike Rea (comment timestamp 5:15 pm):

    Loving husband, horsetrainer, father, family man-
    Getting stronger improving as you can!

    The Lord's light surrounds you
    easing your family's mind-
    The Lord's love protects you-
    helping you and friends unwind.

    The Lord's miracle continue your healing-
    His arms wrap around you whatever you're feeling!

    Under His protection, you always will be-
    While His Miracles continue in you to see.

    Another good day closer coming back home-
    Therapy allows you to walk better to roam!

    Lord's and His Angels presence watch over thee-
    Your family's updates bring joyful news about ye.

    God's Love, Light, Protection stay here-
    Rest now, enjoy His Power erasing all fear!

    May each day bring forth joyfully great news-
    Keep walking stronger after putting on shoes!

    May our Lord's miraculous grace-
    Allow coming home to your family's place!
    Heal Mike - pulling for you to win your own race.

    Update 460: Jeannine Edwards just e-mailed me to let us know ESPN2 will be covering the Pacific Classic on sunday, 7 - 8 pm. They will include Barbaro coverage which will include the grazing video and other recent updates. The Pacific Classic is a great older horse race (not restricted to 3yos like the Kentucky Derby) and includes many of the best handicappers in the country (Lava Man, Giacomo and Perfect Drift for example). Given Giacomo won the Kentucky Derby last year I thought it would be appropriate for us to highlight him going into this race. The Daily Racing Form has a nice article today on him for good background information: Shirreffs wants Giacomo to be a hero again which includes the following excerpt:

    Giacomo, though, is the stable star. Shirreffs still receives mail asking about the colt, and gets aggravated with himself if he doesn't have time to answer a letter or a request for a photo that day. For someone not accustomed to the limelight, Shirreffs immediately sensed that winning the Derby brings special requirements to those connected with the colt.

    "I think it's a big-time obligation," Shirreffs said. "It's no longer just Mr. Moss's horse. It's sort of everybody's horse. I got a letter from an elderly woman the other day asking for a picture of Giacomo. I sent her one. People like that, this might be one of their only contacts with the outside world."

    I thought it would be interesting to contact his current exercise rider (Steve Willard) and see if he would be willing to provide us some updates on Giacomo as they prepare for the Pacific Classic (I acquired his cell phone number from Andy Durnin, good friend and closely tied to last year's Pacific Classic winner Borrego). This is what Steve had to say in our call today:

    John Sherrifs should take a lot of credit for this horse. He has shown a great deal of patience, and the patience is starting to proove out. I have been around Giacomo since he was two, but I was not his regular exercise rider until about 3 - 4 months ago. Frankie (Herrate) used to gallop him when he won the Kentucky Derby last year. He has had 3 - 4 different exercise riders during his time with John. I am just very fortunate that I have been involved with him most recently.

    He is now training very forwardly, very good attitude, he is very focused in the mind, strong yet easy to control. He breezed the other morning (monday), and as is the case with all John's breezes, was never asked for more than he can give, we always make sure the horse has something left, whatever speed we are going. He accelareted on his own at the 16th pole but it was easy. He worked in hand in 1:12 (3/4s), galloped out the mile in 1:39. On tuesday he walked the shedrow (John walks all his horse the day after a breeze) and today (wednesday) he jogged two miles, he felt great. I'll provide an update each day as we prepare for the Pacific Classic this weekend.

    So we will hear from Steve each day as we approach the big race!

    Update 459: A worrying update on Lost in the Fog who was presumed to be colicing: Mass in Lost in the Fog Believed to be Cancer. The following is an excerpt:

    Gilchrist said that preliminary tests indicated that the lymphoma appears to be confined to the spleen. He said the mass is about the size of a cantaloupe. Lost in the Fog has won just one of his three starts this year, and Gilchrist had originally thought that quarter cracks were the culprits for the champion's sub-par efforts. "It turns out he's been running with this thing inside him this year," the trainer said. "It shows you what kind of warrior this horse is."

    Gilchrist added that owner Harry Aleo is extremely concerned about his star, and that "We will do anything we can for the horse. It's almost a Barbaro-type situation."

    Don't forget the Bloodhorse chat with Dr. Richardson tonight at 6pm. For those who cannot attend, they will be providing a transcript. I will provide a direct link to the chat (and subsequent transcript) just before 6 pm tonight.

    Update 458: I just watched Miraculous Miss work a half mile on the wood chip track in 47.1 secs. That is a very handy time, and she did it quite nicely. Miraculous Miss looks like she might be getting closer to her first race back after the horrifying gate incident in the Acorn. She is now off the starters list, which required her to return to the gate at least three times to school.

    I also had a nice chat with Adrian Rolls (Graham Motion assistant) about the horse flights over the weekend (Better Talk Now and Film Maker flying to and from Chicago). He was pretty amazed by the entire experience. They vanned down to BWI, vanned right to the airplane and loaded right up. Once airborne the flight was _very_ smooth. They were the only two on the outward bound journey (which was also nicely air-conditioned). On the return journey they came back via Albany to drop off the Saratoga-based horses (which of course included Showing Up). They were not on the ground for long at all before taking off again for Baltimore. It seems the plane can hold about twenty horses, there were about fourteen on the return journey to Albany. I asked Barclay's Fair Hill assistant (Tim) how Showing Up was after his (fantastic) performance. He said all was well.

    Update 457: Another comfortable night for Barbaro last night (tuesday night). Saw Michael Matz as I was coming back from the track on my third set. Before I could even ask how Bobby was doing, Michael gave me the positive report.

    On my first set this morning (5:30am), I was jogging back with Man in Havana...or at least that's who I think it was, it was a little hard to see. As we were coming back, two fox cubs were chasing eachother around in circles right on the horsepath. Which while very cute, required me to tighten my grip on the neck strap and my horse's mane.

    Second set, I went out back and not only saw another fox cub but was surrounded by many deer. Of course, I again didn't let go of my neck strap! It's really a beautiful morning here in Fair Hill.
    updated wednesday 7:10am


    Update 456: A nice article from ESPN with some new quotes: Barbaro walks outside, grazing on grass. The following are excerpts:

    "I thought he was thrilled the first time he went out," Dean Richardson, chief surgeon at the New Bolton Center, said Monday. "He just seemed very happy to be out. You can tell he's looking forward to it every day. It's absolutely normal. Horses love to be outside, obviously, and he's pretty excited about it."

    Barbaro stepped outside his ICU stall and started daily walks on a grassy area near the unit last Wednesday for the first time since having catastrophic injuries in the Preakness nearly three months ago.

    and

    "It's a big step just to know he feels good enough that you can take him out of the stall and walk him around like a normal horse and he eats grass like a normal horse," Richardson said in a telephone interview from New Bolton. "That doesn't mean he's healed. It just means things are going well right now."

    The 3-year-old had made only a couple of brief walks back and forth from his stall to the surgery room at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center until last week. Now Barbaro is walked daily for about 15 to 20 minutes in a secluded area not far from the George D. Widener Hospital ICU.

    The USA Today blog On Deadline linked to us in their most recent Barbaro update: Barbaro update: He's grazing outside.

    And finally Philadelphia Park will name a race in honor of Eugene Dixon (long time patron and friend of Michael Matz): Philadelphia Park Notes - Track Set To Honor The Late Eugene Dixon. An excerpt:

    "Fitz Dixon's distinguished tenure as Chairman of the Pennsylvania State Horse Racing Commission was earmarked by his love for thoroughbred racing and his unflinching commitment to the integrity of the sport. Philadelphia Park is proud to memorialize these contributions by naming the Cotillion Handicap in his honor," said Greenwood racing Chairman Bob Green.

    Comments

    Good Morning handsome boy,
    Glad to hear that you had another resful night last night. Keep up the good work, listen to all of the docs, nurses and caregivers like always and enjoy your time today outside in the sunshine with the fresh air and fresh greens. :)
    Thinking of you always, and will pray for your friend Lost in the Fog for a successful recovery. You are a fantastic example of how dedication and will can go so far.
    BIG horsie hugs, kisses, ear scratches. nose rubs and MUCH LOVE to you and all that surround you.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 3:42 PM

    SusanW

    I meant every word. I can't say enough for the people who work hands on with my horses every day. They don't get the acknowledgment they deserve. There is so much more to this than a jockey getting on a horse on race day.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 3:42 PM

    Prayers for Lost in the Fog and his connections. Gosh, the will and spirit of these horses..running with a tumor the size of a cantaloupe. Bless his heart...sigh...

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 3:42 PM

    Thanks, Sarah

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 3:43 PM

    Good to hear Captain,
    I repeat the Posse Alert: all veggies, fruit, Dr.R. impersonators you are needed to include Lost in the Fog in your prayers.

    Also remember all on this board who are dealing with loss of furry children our illness. There are enough of us who are now expert prayers, meditators, etc.

    Posted by: Marky at August 16, 2006 3:46 PM

    Good Morning Everyone.

    Special One, hope you are enjoying this beautiful new day of sunshine, sharing and healing. Graze, rest and keep up the fight. We'll remain loyal to you our special friend.

    Alex, Lyn Gilbert is right. You have been seeing lots of foxes and now deer during your early morning outings. There is meaning to these sightings for you if you believe. Deer represents devotion, selflessness and personal sacrifice for the benefit of others. Fox is a hopeful sign. Fox teaches us that we can change ourselves in order to walk a better road. Also, it teaches us to play for the sheer joy of playing and to be childlike so our hearts will soar and we can share our joy with others. Interesting that these animal signs have been appearing to you. In many ways, they represesnt what is going on here with you, Alex, and with everyone using the TWR site to honor Barbaro.

    Everyone open your hearts to the new day and to the joy of sharing.

    Jill H.

    Posted by: Jill H. at August 16, 2006 3:46 PM

    Alex,

    Thank you very much for your continued information and daily updates on Barbaro. It's wonderful to be able to check this site numerous times during the day and have all this information at our fingertips. Your hard work is very much appreciated by all.

    Barbaro - keep up that fighting spirit champ, it's working.

    Posted by: Cindy at August 16, 2006 3:47 PM

    Marky,
    I don't know about the security? I'm going in underground where we carotts grow. HEH

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 3:48 PM

    So pleased to hear ACN for our beautiful boy. A note on tumors of the spleen - at 10 years old, our 1st lab was diagnosed with hemangiosarcoma (usually fatal in 3 - 5 months) and had to have his spleen (with at least 3 large tumors) removed. The wonderful vets at Colorado State University's vet hospital put him on a special diet (lots of fish oil) and he had 5 chemo treatments, which really didn't slow him down much. He lived another 2 years and the cancer never did return! I hope for the same result for Lost in the Fog.

    Posted by: Wendy in Colorado at August 16, 2006 3:48 PM

    The healing power of the Christ dissolves tumors, as well as restores bones and hooves to soundness. Divine Love corrects the erroneous "picture" before the human eyes of disease and injury, with the Truth of health and harmony. Lost in the Fog is under the same Holy Protection that Barbaro is. Prayerful or spiritual "work", devoid of doubt and fear, as Jesus taught, will make manifest complete healing. As Jesus said, "Your FAITH has healed you". Praying/Affirming, without doubting or fearing, brings human thought into harmony with God's Divine Mind, which then reveals the healing that is already taking place -- right here and now. Human sense sees the healing in stages, only because it has not yet evolved to the spriritual "altitude" that Jesus possessed. If we understood God's Universe as well as Jesus did, these healings would manifest immediately. The stronger our faith is, the quicker we will see the Truth revealed in our human experience. But it's not "blind" faith; it's faith based on the knowledge of the Truth of the Perfection of God's Universe. "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free". (Jesus)

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 3:54 PM

    Can Horses live with out a spleen? Do they do chemo on horses?
    I am really worryed about Lost In The Fog.
    Last weekend racing on TV, someone said Lost In The Fog was going to be sold.
    I pray for both our boys.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 3:55 PM

    Gosh - people dressing up as gigantic carrots, jumping out of trees, bushes, and cakes. Hiding underground so Barbaro can come along and pluck you out of the earth. Dr. R. looking confused and perplexed. I'm visualizing. It's pretty funny!

    Barbaro - look what you've done to all of us. Isn't it wonderful?!

    Posted by: Margie at August 16, 2006 3:55 PM

    UC Davis Vet Med Facility, caring for Lost In The Fog, is absolutely the most excellent clinic for horses (and all other animals) in California. This is where the horse sling,leg splint and ambulance used for Barbaro was developed. The staff is extraordinary and many students from UC Davis are dedicating their time and future to equine research. All personnel have dedicated their lives caring for and loving horses.

    Posted by: Dale at August 16, 2006 3:57 PM

    Brave little Foggy doesnt deserve this, this direct all the positive energies we have directed at Bobby and hopefully Foggy will have a positive outcome like him. Jen

    Posted by: Jen at August 16, 2006 3:57 PM

    I read the post about the wild animal sanctuary in Colorado that might have to shut down due to lack of funds/donations. I have emailed them about this and I will post when i get a response.

    http://www.wildanimalsanctuary.org/index_Page345.htm

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 3:57 PM

    RECIPE FOR BARBARO "CARROT CAKE"

    50 C. DR. DEAN
    10 C. PRAYER
    10 C. LOVE AND GOOD VIBES
    10 C. NEW BOLTON STAFF
    10 C. LIGHTING CANDLES
    5 C. HUGS AND KISSES
    5.C. SPIRIT AND FIGHT

    THIS EQUALS 100% BARBARO
    GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU SAFE,HEATHLY, AND HAPPY MY SWEET BOY!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at August 16, 2006 3:58 PM

    I was shocked to see that about Lost in the Fog! I'm sick at heart. I hope they can get it all, this horse has always been a favorite of mine--he would always try so hard (and beat just about every three-year-old sprinter on the planet). He really is a warrior.

    I don't suppose he'll be sent to New Bolton? He's a long way from California.

    He's in my prayers, along with Bobby (who of course is always in my prayers.)

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at August 16, 2006 3:58 PM

    Dale
    Thanks for the info...that's good to know

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 3:58 PM

    The post said they might have to destroy the wild amimals if they shut down because the zoos are not able to take them.

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 3:59 PM

    Alex, Thank you for the updates on Bobby and the other horses. My husband flew for a horse charter years ago and the horses have stall like set ups in the plane, goats were on board with them to keep them calm and one thing the horses didn't like was if the plane got to humid. They are considered precious cargo. Especially since my husband is a animal lover. They were in good hands.

    Wonderful day knowing Bobby is having a miracle.

    Love and prayers to Bobby and all.

    Karen M. - Texas ( 106 degrees today in Dallas and we are in a drought, ugh!)

    Posted by: Karen M. at August 16, 2006 3:59 PM

    This was so necessary. Thank you. I've had a terrible morning and needed this laugh.


    Michael's Miracle

    Margaret

    )))))Gosh - people dressing up as gigantic carrots, jumping out of trees, bushes, and cakes. Hiding underground so Barbaro can come along and pluck you out of the earth. Dr. R. looking confused and perplexed. I'm visualizing. It's pretty funny!

    Barbaro - look what you've done to all of us. Isn't it wonderful?!

    Posted by: Margie at August 16, 2006 03:55 PM((((

    Posted by: Margaret at August 16, 2006 4:02 PM

    Hi Everyone,
    Glad to hear Barbaro is stilling doing well. I believe when we say our prayers for Barbaro we should also include Lost in the Fog. Another great horse needs our help. We can only hope it is not cancerous and that they can successfully remove the tumor and give him back his life. Barbaro would welcome anyone to help another in his same situation. Keep the love and prayers going.
    Hi to all the great people out there who keep the spirit going.

    Love to Barbaro.

    Posted by: MARY PAGE at August 16, 2006 4:03 PM

    SALLY - your "on-site" Dr. R. is praying for Lost in the Fog...and for all animals who are sick or injured. And a prayer of thanksgiving for Miraculous Miss - I happened to see that race and was shrieking when the accident happened! It seemed like she was trapped under that gate for an eternity...then no news about her until just now - THANKS, Alex! If anyone saw the incident, it's a miracle that she suffered no ill effects! I think Barbaro will say a prayer for Lost in the Fog when he goes outside today and gazes skyward!
    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 16, 2006 4:04 PM

    Alex,

    I think I remember that Lost in the Fog is a gelding. Is that correct?

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 4:05 PM

    Thank you Dale
    That makes me feel a little better.
    Wonder who is the best possible surgeon? And when will that take place? Pray they have a recovery pool. Pray he is as smart as Barbaro, in getting out of the pool. How do they stop them from falling, when they put them to sleep for surgery?
    Worry worry

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 4:06 PM

    Just a quick question in regards to Barbaro's baby brother.

    I forgot to ask any of you if you know where I can name his baby brother. Having trouble getting into the sight. Does anyone know the e-mail address that I can use??? It would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks again.

    Posted by: MARY PAGE at August 16, 2006 4:07 PM

    LORRETTA: AMEN, and thank you for your profound spiritual gift.

    Posted by: Christine at August 16, 2006 4:11 PM

    Nancy in CT...I loved your comment about Barbaro saying a prayer for Lost In The Fog!
    Many Possee Prayers and Candles are going out to our boy and Lost In The Fog today.
    Barbaro..nibble on some luscious green grass for me and Annie today!
    Love ya,
    Lynn

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at August 16, 2006 4:12 PM


    Bobby - Glad to see you had a good couple of days. Was not able to check on you or leave you little notes. I know you are enjoying your outings. I am so proud of you and happy for you.

    Love and kisses.

    Posted by: Debbie B. from Miami, Fl. at August 16, 2006 4:13 PM

    Nice video/slide show tribute

    http://www.argentdesign.net/barbaro/barbaro.html

    Posted by: Jennie (Kentucky) at August 16, 2006 4:16 PM

    So sad to hear about Lost in the Fog. Hoping that the surgery will help him. And still he raced, even with that growth. Horses have such pluck, such determination! I will light a candle for him. Could somebody please let me know if a group is set up for him?

    Thanx for the update Alex!

    Goooood morning sweetie pie Barbaro! AGN! Awww, aren't you wonderful?

    Bet you're looking forward to your stroll with Dr R.

    Okay get your ears limbered up. Here we go!

    Eat your carrots every day
    Stay in the sling and play, play, play

    There is nothing to compare
    to sunshine, breezes,
    a little grass here, a little grass there

    Grow hoof grow! Heal leg heal!
    That's become our daily appeal

    Keep on doing like you are
    You're our bright and shining star

    Saw you on the CNN.com video babycakes...oooohlala..those little snorts and whuffles

    Have a good day sweet Barbaro. See ya later MWAH

    Posted by: Toby at August 16, 2006 4:18 PM

    Probaly no need for a reminder here, but according to Dr. Richardson, Bobby is "not out of the woods" yet, so let us not get lax at all with regard to healing thought being focused in his direction as strong, and even STRONGER, than it was in the past. A poster last week (I forget who) said she saw something on the internet where a horrible person was spewing evil thoughts about Bobby and wishing for his demise! That's unimaginable to us, but we must be alert to that kind of "evil", so to speak, so we don't get "the wool pulled over our eyes". "Evil" has a way of concealing itself and strikes when we least expect it. It was good the poster "alerted" us to that info, so that we can take extra measures to remain vigilant and realize that some others in the world are working against us and Bobby. It's very sad, but we can't be blind to the "evil" in the world. Just look at what was thwarted regarding the airlines a few days ago! Americans are hated in certain quarters of the world, and Bobby is a big symbol of all that is good, and loving, and innocent. We must protect him, and that means being very, very alert to the people who hate him. Thanks to whomever gave us that info last week. Just wanted to mention that...for Bobby's sake.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 4:18 PM

    Nancy
    Alex posted on Miraculous Miss 2 or 3 times.
    One he said she was back at Fair Hill with some cuts and scratches. But looked good. It's all back in the Archive on the left hand side, some where. Can't remember where!
    And Yes It seemed like she was trapped under that gate for an eternity...

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 4:18 PM

    Yes Loretta - awesome!!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 4:19 PM

    Sweet,sweet Barbaro, how you lift us up with your courage and strength....we are all so pleased when we hear you had another comfortable night... keep up the good work Barbaro!!!
    May the Lord continue to keep you in his light!!!

    Many hugs and carrots to you big boy!!

    Posted by: Leigh in Austin at August 16, 2006 4:20 PM

    Toby

    www.gratefulness.org
    group name fog

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 4:21 PM

    Thank you, Christine. I was typing another thought while you were posting.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 4:23 PM

    #####
    Carol Nichols, I love that! I bake a lot & my specialty is carrot cake. Now I have that pasted into word pad & am going to print it & put it with my recipe.

    Posted by: Tracie at August 16, 2006 4:23 PM

    Loretta - how true. We must keep up this momentum for Barbaro. His doctor said that he had no idea why Barbaro was so comfortable with his issues. I believe it is because of all of our prayers and energy, helping Barbaro in his healing process. I won't let up in this cause.

    Dale - thank you for letting us know that Lost in the Fog is in a very good place. My heart is sad but I will send prayers and hope.

    Posted by: Margie at August 16, 2006 4:25 PM

    Thank you, Sally in Key West.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 4:26 PM

    Loretta,
    Very well said, and so true. Nothing can break what we have. WE are to STRONG to be broken.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 4:27 PM

    Margie, I agree with you. Dr. Richardson's comments are very interesting regarding that.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 4:32 PM

    While reading about the wildlife sanctuary and thru Comcast news I found the following regarding Barbaro.

    http://www.comcast.net/sports/others/index.jsp?cat=OTHERSPORTS&fn=/2006/08/15/455855.html

    (Not sure if it was posted yesterday or not)

    One comment mentioned was the following:

    "Of course, not even the simplest tasks are easy for the colt.

    "He doesn't like the flies," Richardson said with a chuckle. "He lost a lot of the tail and it's short, so it's hard for him to swish flies."


    GO BARBARO!!

    Posted by: lynnette at August 16, 2006 4:32 PM

    Gosh, now NBC needs to hire a "harem" to follow Bobby around and shoo the flies away with ostrich feather fans.

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 4:38 PM

    New addition to the Posse needed...fly swooshers to keep them from disturbing our Prince's butt.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 4:39 PM

    My heart is breaking over the news of Lost in The Fog's cancer diagnosis. I will pray that God and St. Francis will create a miracle for him.

    "It turns out he's been running with this thing inside him this year," the trainer said. "It shows you what kind of warrior this horse is."

    I hope everyone will join in unity and prayer for Lost in the Fog. I will light a candle for him now. May God bless him and his connections.

    Posted by: Karen in Las Vegas at August 16, 2006 4:39 PM

    Renee, Yes! Thank you! "With God all things are possible", and that's the base of our Strength, because He is the Healer, and we have the privilege of witnessing His healing power.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 4:40 PM

    Another dumb horse question: Will Barbaro's tail grow back to its original length?

    Posted by: Anita at August 16, 2006 4:40 PM

    Anita: Yes, it will grow but it takes a long time...One of my horses tail was stolen, cut right below the bone - Poor guy would look around as he swished his tail and you could see him thinking "What's wrong, I use to be able to nail that fly"...Took three years to get it back to where it was....

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at August 16, 2006 4:43 PM

    I think he needs hair extensions - and I'm not trying to be funny - but if the flies bother him that much - why not.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 4:43 PM

    yes, anita his tail will grow back.

    Posted by: Barbara Kerr at August 16, 2006 4:43 PM

    Thanks Lisa - this is the kind of stuff they don't mention in books! I liked the little added detail about your horse, too.

    Posted by: Anita at August 16, 2006 4:45 PM

    Why would anyone steal a horse's tail?...

    Posted by: Anita at August 16, 2006 4:47 PM

    For Debbie, The large animal surgery table used at New Bolton was also developed at UC Davis. I don't think that a recovery pool would be used after abdominal surgery due to the risk of infection. You can go to UC Davis online and maybe read more: The School of Veterinary Medicine.

    Posted by: Dale at August 16, 2006 4:47 PM

    Lisa,
    Are you serious...stolen? Things like this make me crazy.

    Up here in CT a stupid kid at the track tied fishing line to a greyhounds tail while it was in the gate. I won't go any farther with it. He is paying for what he did. Good Judge got him.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 4:47 PM

    Sally they sell hair extensions for horses. They really do. A lot of show people use them.

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 4:49 PM

    “I think we’re lucky his tissues are fairly healthy,” Richardson said. “I don’t know why he’s more comfortable than some horses with the same condition.”

    to poster margie -- Dr. R was referring to tissue in Bobby's left hind foot I believe, not issues.

    Posted by: Barbara Kerr at August 16, 2006 4:49 PM

    This makes what Loretta said even MORE IMPORTANT!!!
    He still needs our prayers as much as ever.

    "He's got to get this left hind foot to the point where it's a solid structure that can sustain long-term weight bearing," Richardson said. "Could there still be some major things resulting in him having to be put down? Yeah. He's absolutely not out of the woods yet."

    Posted by: KL at August 16, 2006 4:50 PM

    Gee Marie, I guess you answered my question. They would steal the horses' tails to sell the hair for extensions...

    Posted by: Anita at August 16, 2006 4:50 PM

    Thoughts and prayers going out to Lost in the Fog. Candles will be lit.
    Barbaro, keeping hanging in there! It's a long road and we are all there with you in spirit! One day at a time....

    Go Barbaro Go!
    applying for fly swooshing job. spent many years mucking stalls, this will be a breeze!

    Nancy in VB

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at August 16, 2006 4:51 PM

    Yes, stolen - someone went into his pen during the night and cut it off - it was beautiful - multi colored and touched the ground - he is a big horse too (17 hands) so that was a lot of tail...

    I will never forget looking at his rear that morning and thinking something was wrong - then realizing someone had chopped his tail off....A pretty big "AUGHGGHHGGHHGGH" was screamed out...

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at August 16, 2006 4:52 PM

    Sally in Key West - hair extentions - yes - why not? I knew a woman that used bustles and wigs on her Tennessee Walkers tails.

    Posted by: Margie at August 16, 2006 4:52 PM

    Oh Lisa, I can just imagine. What a terrible thing to do.

    Posted by: Anita at August 16, 2006 4:53 PM

    You know Anita I never really thought about where they get the hair for the tail. I've never used one because my mare has very full long tail.

    Hopefully people don't steal tails for the extensions.

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 4:53 PM

    Dumb question coming - what is a Tennessee Walker and why wigs and bustles?????

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 4:56 PM

    Hi, Team Barbaro!

    Business card design is getting a bit frustrating so I'll take a short break.

    Lit all the candles today that I could. Along with prayers to Bobby are prayers to Lost in the Fog and his connections. From a veterinary standpoint, he's in a super facility. Alex, thanks for keeping us informed - this brave boy has such a huge,loving heart.

    Jill, glad to see someone else up on animal energy...

    Gotta go...phone is ringing.

    Healng and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at August 16, 2006 4:59 PM

    Not to be funny either, but as we affirm restored bone and hoof for Bobby, and dissolved tumor for Lost in the Fog, we can certainly affirm the RAPID full restoration of Bobby's tail, and have faith that it need not take as long as might normally be expected. In fact, (spiritually speaking), we don't even need to break down the healing into "body parts"; we can think of ourselves and others as being God's Perfect Children...not made up of material blood and bones, etc., but as spiritual beings, reflecting God's Perfection in our WHOLE bodies.
    If you notice, sometimes posters express fear about this part and that part...but if we focus on Bobby as God's Perfect Child, wholly, as he was in the Derby, it might be easier to "see" that Perfection manifest, as we pray/affirm/meditate.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 4:59 PM

    Just lit my candles for both Barbaro and for Lost in the Fog. There is definately something therapuetic about doing that, it makes me feel like I am doing something tangible to help.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 5:00 PM

    Thanks Loretta. Loved that last post.

    Posted by: Anita at August 16, 2006 5:02 PM

    Good morning Bobby. Another good night for you...that's more than enough for me to hear! Hope you're enjoying those daily walks you're going on now. It's probably very exciting for you to go outside, but remember not to overdo it!

    You have a great day beautiful boy. Enjoy the sunshine and fresh air, if only for a few minutes. Don't worry, you'll be back where you belong one day soon. Hugs & big kisses to you sweetie pie!

    Everyone, please remember to light a candle for Lost in the Fog. He needs our positive thoughts and prayers right now too.

    There will be miracles...
    when you believe!

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 5:04 PM

    I've been trying to register for the forum on Tim's site, but it keeps telling me it can't process the request. Any suggestions?
    Thanks for any help.
    Della
    dellamicah@aol.com

    Posted by: Della at August 16, 2006 5:09 PM

    Alex - about Lost in the Fog, "Gilchrist had originally thought that quarter cracks were the culprits for the champion's sub-par efforts".
    Could you explain what "quarter cracks" are, please.

    Posted by: Anita at August 16, 2006 5:10 PM

    Thank you, Anita.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 5:11 PM

    Sally in Key West - to see some pics of 'Walkers' go to www.walkerswest.com. You'll see some of the 'poof' in the tails.

    Posted by: Margie at August 16, 2006 5:12 PM

    Good afternoon Bobby !
    Good afternoon to all !

    Just wanted to pop in and see how your day was going !

    Here's my bumper sticker !

    "Honk for Barbaro"

    Be well handsome, continue to heal and keep that wonderful spirit of yours !

    Posted by: Julia B at August 16, 2006 5:12 PM

    Best wishes to having a comfortable fun day Barbaro--it is so great you get to go outside and feel the warm sun, and breath the fresh air, and munch away!

    Best wishes also the the colt, Lost In The Fog. Will be thinking of you often.

    Posted by: TerryL at August 16, 2006 5:15 PM

    Mike's Prayer
    by Wm & CL Shaw (inspired by Mary Somano, Healing Therapist)

    Loving husband, horsetrainer, father, family man-
    Getting stronger improving as you can!

    The Lord's light surrounds you
    easing your family's mind-
    The Lord's love protects you-
    helping you and friends unwind.

    The Lord's miracle continue your healing-
    His arms wrap around you whatever you're feeling!

    Under His protection, you always will be-
    While His Miracles continue in you to see.

    Another good day closer coming back home-
    Therapy allows you to walk better to roam!

    Lord's and His Angels presence watch over thee-
    Your family's updates bring joyful news about ye.

    God's Love, Light, Protection stay here-
    Rest now, enjoy His Power erasing all fear!

    May each day bring forth joyfully great news-
    Keep walking stronger after putting on shoes!

    May our Lord's miraculous grace-
    Allow coming home to your family's place!
    Heal Mike - pulling for you to win your own race.

    Posted by: Wm & CL at August 16, 2006 5:15 PM

    So very sorry to hear about Lost In The Fog's mass. Alex please pass on that they are in our prayers. Hopefully it is confined and they can remove all of it. Poor sweety.

    VERY happy to hear about Miraculous Miss. I wonder about her frequently. Hoping all continues to go well for her. She was my pick that horrible day. She seems like a nice horse and a nice racer.

    Always happy to get ACN for sweet Bobby J.

    Thanks also to all at Kennett Florist. They ROCK!

    Posted by: mish ~ future vet tech at August 16, 2006 5:18 PM

    TLC (Laura), You ARE doing something TANGIBLE, by lighting the candles. You're appplying SPECIFIC, healing thought towards Bobby and Fog. We all have a tendency to feel that doing something "physically" is MORE tangible; but it's the other way around. Everything begins with thought.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 5:19 PM

    Loretta

    Very true - you can feel the power during our organized vigils. It always envelopes me and makes me feel the love

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 5:20 PM

    Went to the walkerswest site. Absolutely amazing what humans do with horses. Rivals what humans do with dogs and cats!

    Posted by: Anita at August 16, 2006 5:20 PM

    : ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 04:05 PM
    #####
    No Lost In The Fog is not a gelding, He is a colt.
    Per his pedigree. He is a grandson of Secretariat, on his dams side.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 5:20 PM

    Poofy tails is right! What do these Walkers do - prance around in the ring????

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 5:20 PM

    TLC (Laura)

    Know what you mean. It's the only time I feel like I'm doing something also. Otherwise, we feel helpless, just waiting

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 5:20 PM

    TLC (Laura)

    Know what you mean. It's the only time I feel like I'm doing something also. Otherwise, we feel helpless, just waiting

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 5:21 PM

    Anita - these horses are posed just like show dogs - how funny is that??

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 5:21 PM

    I am so glad our Bobby continues to be comfortable and make strides toward total recovery. Still have not been able to see his video outside. I downloaded the program and after doing so was still getting the notice that I needed to download to view (ughhhhh!) I am also deeply saddened to hear about Lost In The Fog. In my breed, golden retrievers, spleen tumors (hemangiosarcoma) are the rampant and our Breed Club has ongoing studies to try and shed some light on the terrible type of cancer. I am hoping for a successful removal of Fog's tumor and a good prognosis. My prayers are with him. Thankfully his people will do all they can.

    Posted by: Jane at August 16, 2006 5:22 PM

    Thanks Debbie L.A.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 5:22 PM

    Shelley I started packing - figure I'll be there in a couple of weeks!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 5:22 PM

    Yea, Sally!!! But I want to move to FL
    HATE the winters here

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 5:23 PM

    Loretta, thank you for all of your heartfelt and inspiring posts this morning.
    You know, the lighting of the candles just makes me feel that although I can not be there to comfort, hug, kiss, scratch ears etc. that I am helping in some small way to help these animals to feel better and stronger.
    Anyone else feel this way??

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 5:24 PM

    Tails will grow, you clip them to make them look pretty.
    My horses had a better cut than I ever did...
    Love to family..and posse
    SusanW.

    Posted by: SusanW. at August 16, 2006 5:24 PM

    TLC and Loretta - How true, "Everything begins with thought". I always think of Barbaro as healing, healing, continuously healing.

    Posted by: Anita at August 16, 2006 5:26 PM

    Shelley - If I could afford it I would pay my rent and keep my place and then we could could to Key West during the winter and stay at your place the rest of the time!!! That would be in a perfect world.!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 5:26 PM

    Yea, Sal...it a perfect world!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 5:28 PM

    TLC (Laura)
    I definitely feel exactly as you do. Physically doing something like lighting a candle or volunteering for pet rescue etc. gives us a sense that we are REALLY doing something by participation. Our thoughts and prayers are inside us always and Bobby and Lost In The Fog will feel our prayers. I know my fellow Possee members feel the same way I do. Many of us light candles daily.
    Thank you for your insightful post.
    Lynn-Possee Member

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at August 16, 2006 5:29 PM

    Linda H in Denver, Yes, you're being very receptive to, and in harmony with the healing power during those times. Saturday is almost here, and we have a BIG job, to "see" even clearer than before, the complete dissolution of the mountain that's been in front of Bobby. The way must open for him to have clear sailing from now on.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 5:31 PM

    Yes, I agree. Doing something helps.
    Even working on the Anti Slaughter issue makes me feel like I am doing something to help. They are all Bobby's brothers and sisters that we are trying to save.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 5:33 PM

    I believe in God with every fiber of my being. I also believe that prayers are heard by Him. I believe that God has a plan for each and every one of us, human or animal.

    I also believe that sometimes God says 'No' regardless of how hard we pray. It simply comes down to God's will.

    If our prayers do not bring about the result we asked for, we take solice in knowing that God has a greater plan that we are simply not privy to. I strongly believe that death is NOT the end. Those who truly believe in the Lord will be given everlasting life and will reside in the house of the Lord spending eternity in His light. Death is not to be feared, nor is evil. God will take care of the true believers in one way or another.

    Barbaro was not injured by 'evil' as evil can only influence us if we choose evil over good. Barbaro did not make that choice. Instead of focusing on evil, I choose to focus on the good that has happened due to Barbaro's injury. Friendships have been formed. Advances have been/will be made due to the publicity of Barbaro's injury. Very good things!

    I do not believe that Barbaro will have any further setbacks (but I acknowledge that I could be wrong). Nor do I believe that he will ever be a target of a terrorist. I don't think people hate Barbaro. Yes, people say stupid things about him due to ignorance and lack of compassion. This does not equate to hatred. When incorrect or stupid comments are made about Barbaro, it gives us an opportunity to attempt to educate people and makes us stronger in our own beliefs.

    This is MY sermon for the day!

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at August 16, 2006 5:34 PM

    How sad the news about Lost In The Fog.
    He is such a beautiful horse and so proud of himself. Saratoga officals gave him some time between a race last summer so people could see him before he raced at the track. I have some nice pictures of him with his head held high.
    I hope something can be done for him. I am glad they are going to try.
    If anyone saw Dancing Forever's race last week, you would be even more amazed at his performance if you watch the head on of the race on the replay tvs at the Saratoga track if you are there. Awesome performance for a horse making only it's third (?) start. I was VERY impressed.

    Posted by: Anne Castle at August 16, 2006 5:34 PM

    I have posted this over and over since May20...put up or shut up...give to OldFriensequine.org...give to the Exceller fund...give go ReRun.

    We have been working for years..........spend some money .

    Posted by: SusanW at August 16, 2006 5:35 PM

    SusanW

    There are many ways people can give. I'm out of work now and unable to contribute financially but I'm trying to do the best I can by getting awareness out about important issues.

    I agree, if you can help then you should. If not, there are other ways. We can all make a difference in our own way.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 5:39 PM

    Hi Loretta,
    Your reminders and posts are beautiful and inspiring. It can be hard to stay positive, we are human afterall. But I do agree that with each other's encouragement we can stay on a positive healing course. I believe that ALL people of good will and genuine kindness will try to do so.

    Unfortunately some tend to group themselves onto clicks of serious Christians, racing enthousiasts, equine students, alternative healers, goofy jokers, etc. I believe that our Creator in his wisdom and grace created diversity for a reason. It is beautiful. I believe like you that we do not have to be specific about each body part. Neither do I believe that we all have to work the same way. As long as this group of people can fend off the negative and keep hope, healing, compassion and belief the focus, we will do good for all that need healing .....and for ourselves.


    Barbaro do you feel the power? You lead and we follow and when you need a rest, we'll lead.

    Posted by: Marky at August 16, 2006 5:42 PM

    Anyone,
    I need the Kennet Florist phone #

    Thank you!!!

    Posted by: marky at August 16, 2006 5:45 PM

    610-444-6040
    www.kennettflorist.net

    Posted by: Scout at August 16, 2006 5:49 PM

    Precious Barbaro:) May the day find you munching on fresh grass with the sun on your back and soft breezes in your mane. You are an "Angel Horse" sent from our Heavenly Father. Have a beautiful day and take it easy. Father, thank you for "The Miracle Of Barbaro".

    Barbaro Team:) Hope your day is going great. It was sure sad to read the post about Lost in the Fog. What a trooper, trying to race with this awful disease. I used to work at the Cancer Center here in Albuquerque.......it was really sad to see so much sickness especially in the children. I lit a candle for Lost in the Fog and will pray non-stop that our Father will show us yet another miracle. We really need to bombard our Creator with lots of prayer for Lost in the Fog.
    I'll be sending prayers during our prayer vigil on Saturday.

    Jeanette Cavalier

    Posted by: Jeanette Cavalier at August 16, 2006 5:53 PM

    Sally, to answer your question, A Tennessee WAlking Horse is a breed of horse. They have a wonderful, natural, very smooth gate. THey have a Walking HOrse Celebration here every year, and it's a very big deal. I have an albino Walker that stands 18+ hands. It is the ride of your life. In the summer of 2004 someone drove by my house and shot him. The bullet lodged between 2 ribs, and that is what saved his life. Most of our pasture was in the front of the property, so since then, we built a new house, redid fencing, and now the horses are further away from the street. We offered a reward for information leading to the person that did this, but never found anyone. I delivered Casper on this farm in 1995, and am very attached to him as well as my others. I hope the sicko that did this gets his just reward some day.

    Posted by: Vicki Jasch at August 16, 2006 5:55 PM

    Vicki - that is just horrible. I'm glad your horsie is OK. That person needs to be shot - what goes around comes around.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 5:57 PM

    I hope the sicko that did this gets his just reward some day.

    Posted by: Vicki Jasch at August 16, 2006 05:55 PM

    I hope so too

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 6:01 PM

    Continually and Perpetually KVELLING MIT NACHAS (overjoyed/jubilant over good things accomplished/enjoyed by a loved one) as I am privileged to witness the Continuing Miracle whose name is Barbaro.

    Alex, thanks for sharing your close encounters with Mother Nature's children out there on your ride. The updates/links/info you are posting are getting more and more interesting, too. Hope the outcome for Lost In The Fog is a happy one; good thing they decided NOT to treat the "colic" at the barn, so they now have a diagnosis and can take it from there. Amazing for him to have done what he has, with that in him. Wow.

    Everyone please remember to vote at the Volvoforlifeawards.com website for Stephanie Pierce (Nevada) of Miracle Horse Rescue, Inc. General (the blind OTTB) and other TB's at MHR will benefit from anything good that befalls her. And don't forget you can get your "Barbaro with nose in the roses" T-Shirt from Ernie at the corvinoballet.org site with a contribution to an established horse rescue including MHR (linked at Ernie's site).

    I finally had a great idea for a name for Bobby's Baby Brother (if he is as yet unnamed). Knowing how the Jacksons already have used the Woody Allen quote in naming Showing Up, it hit me: HOLLYWOOD ENDING. Title of a Woody Allen movie (2002), and considering how things are going for Barbaro, and hopefully in futuro for the baby brother - Hollywood Ending would be my choice for the little one's name. (Don't know if anyone else has come up with this, and if so, great minds, yada yada.)

    Hope Peace Love & Music - CJ the craziest catlady (Blackie's Mother & Pleasure's Aunt) in Hammond IN, f/k/a CJ of T Bar J (Elgin IL)

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at August 16, 2006 6:01 PM


    Hello to Everyone, and to our beautiful Barbaro.

    So Sad to hear the news anout LITF, but glad for the oppotrtunity to lift him up in prayer. Don't count him out. The BARBARO EFFECT has touched him. He may have found a "fog", but he is not "lost."

    Here, there is enough love, prayer, and positive energy for his healing too. He is in good hands in every sense of the word.

    I hope that LITF's owners will be open to the same grace that Barbaro's are. That they will be strong, and wise.

    Amen and Amen to everyone's prayers and energy.

    Thoughts are where the healing begins, but remember to SPEAK the evidence of faith into existance. Words (spoken and written) have great power.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at August 16, 2006 6:01 PM

    Vicki,

    I had a friend in TN who lost a colt due to an idiot. It was during some hunting season. My friend even had orange turnout sheets on all of the horses and the colt. The idiot was found and said he thought he was shooting at a deer. Sure, lots of deer are BLACK AND WHITE AND WEAR ORANGE SHEETS! When I asked my friend how the legal charges worked out all she would say is, "Southern justice prevailed". I didn't ask for the details...

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at August 16, 2006 6:02 PM

    Thank you SCOUT

    p.s. LOVE the name

    Posted by: marky at August 16, 2006 6:03 PM

    ######

    If need be, dress me up as a feather...I can leave my apple costume home for a little while. I'll be glad to "tickle" Barbaro's flies off him until his tail hair grows back.

    By the way, isn't healthy hair tissue, the same as or very close to the same, as healthy hoof tissue?

    Posted by: Otherlyn at August 16, 2006 6:07 PM

    TLC (Laura), Thank you. I, too, feel like everyone else. For sure, I'd like to be with him in person, waiting on him "hand and foot" ("hoof and hoof"?). That's our human sense kicking in; we all feel good when we physically help out. But what you did by lighting the candles is exceedingly important for Bobby's protection.

    The ones physically closest to him are there because that is the "office" they were assigned; but our "office" is no less important.

    Most of us will probably never get to be with him in person, but we will feel overwhelmed with joy when he gallops out of that facility.

    I like to envision us all at a BIG PICNIC outdoors at the Jacksons'(we pay for our own food and beverages, of course; and clean up afterwards), which takes place months after Bobby has had time to "unwind" and get settled in his new schedule. On this glorious afternoon, they allow us to hang out in the pasture w/him, petting him, scratching him, etc. Just a nice, calm (no blaring music), peaceful gathering, amid the green grass and cool breeze rustling through the trees. Okay, it's a bit idyllic, but who knows.....

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 6:08 PM

    I'm officially volunteering for duty as "Tail Swoosher" to keep flies off of the Prince's Butt.

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 6:09 PM

    Southern justice prevailed". I didn't ask for the details yes, I am in Tennessee too, and I think I remember the horse being shot as well. We had detectives on the case, and did everything we could do to find the idiot. A lot of people thinnk that Tennesseans are just a bunch of uneducated hicks. That is far from the truth. They are very strict with all kinds of laws, including cruelty to animals. And the judges down here don't put up with anything, and I mean any kind of injustice to the law. It wouldn't pay for me to be a judge in any kind of cruelty to animals. They would have to build a bigger jail.

    Posted by: Vicki Jasch at August 16, 2006 6:11 PM

    Martita:>) Bravo to you..........very well stated. The Barbaro Effect is continuing to make people aware of these beautiful creations from our Heavenly Father called: Horses.

    I've been posting at this site and at UPenn since May 20th.............I've made lots of friends from all over the world.

    Thank you Father for "THE MIRACLE OF BARBARO"

    Jeanette Cavalier

    Posted by: Jeanette Cavalier at August 16, 2006 6:11 PM

    Afternoon Bobbyheads, Barbaromaniacs, veggies, and all!!

    What a fun day to go to NBC! We delivered ice cream and all the fixin's for sundaes... fudge, carmel, whipped cream, nuts and cherries! Dr Sweeney was kind enough to send out an email yesterday, so there was quite a crowd! The place is just electric (maybe partially from the sugar), but in my opinion because of all the good news this week! Bobby gets to feel the sun on his back each day and snort and chomp to his hearts content, what could be better!!

    Bobby got his carrots and treats to go along with the staff's sugar high. We also brought up some goodies for some of the other shifts, since they miss out on breakfasts and such.

    Thanks to all of you the spirits continue to be high!

    WE BELIEVE!!

    Rachel at Kennett Florist

    Posted by: Rachel at August 16, 2006 6:12 PM

    I wanna be tail swoosher too!!!!!


    Hollywood Ending is perfect. Because when Bobby goes home and and his little brother starts racing - and wins - it will be a Hollywood Ending.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 6:13 PM

    ####

    I have a better idea - I will dress up like Cleopatra and will have gorgeous hunks carry me around as I swoosh the flies away with a palm fron!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 6:15 PM

    Good afternoon BarbaroNation.

    As always, thanks Alex for the update. Bobby, we are here for you buddy.

    Hey, can someone please let me know what all the number signs mean in a post?#########.

    As I scoll through the messages I see these over and over.

    Cheers

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at August 16, 2006 6:15 PM

    #### is suppose to be used to show off topic comments or personal conversations
    Some use them, some don't

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 6:18 PM

    ### means that the following is not Barbaro related or that is goofy/silly fun - that way people who don't want to read it can just scroll down.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 6:20 PM

    Loretta,
    I like you're last post! Idyllic or not, it put me in a beautiful place and wonderful frame of mind. Thank you!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 16, 2006 6:20 PM

    Hope Bobby has had a chance to be "grazin' in the grass" today! (I just heard on the radio that the instrumental version of that song was in the top 10 today in 1968. Sigh...I remember it well :)

    Lost in the Fog is one of my friend's favorite horses. I am torn about telling her, as she was devastated when he was beaten in the BC Sprint. I will send prayers up for him, too. Got to keep those good Bobby vibes going for him and other beautiful horses in need.

    Posted by: Jane in CT at August 16, 2006 6:20 PM

    Alex,

    If you ever decide to retire you could have a great career as a reporter!

    Thanks for all the news & tidbits!

    -Julie Z.

    Posted by: Julie Z at August 16, 2006 6:23 PM

    Rachel,
    We love your posts about the visits to NBC!
    Lynn

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at August 16, 2006 6:24 PM

    Thanks Rachel and Kennett Florist!
    Thank you also to the ice cream sponsor!
    This is so good for the staff's morale at NBC and Bobby picks up on that!
    Everyone, don't forget that homemade cards and notes of encouragement are needed just as much!If we all do a little something in our own capacity we can keep the good vibrations flowing for the duration!

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 6:24 PM

    Tennessee Walkers were originally bred in Tennessee, from a mix of Standard Stock horses, Thoroughbreds, Morgans, and Standardbreds. The have three distinct natural gaits all of which are extremely smooth. They were bred for sustained travel... at sometimes 6 to eight miles per hour.

    In order to have a registry one stallion was selected as foundation sire. His name was Black Allen.

    TWs bred and shown today, do not live the dangerous life that race horses do. Not many of them end up in the slaughter pens. Their registry numbers are not as high as Quarter Horses, Standardbreds, and Thoroughbreds.

    I think it is a wonderful tradeoff ; to be posed and "pouffed" instead of expected to earn theier keep in life-risking sport.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at August 16, 2006 6:27 PM

    Marky, I agree. Many different standpoints here, and different ways of expressing them, but I think we are all of one accord -- to see healing for Bobby. We can't afford anything else; there's no room for anything else, but total healing for Bobby!

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 6:27 PM

    Alex, thank you for the update about Giacomo. It's great that you have contacts willing to give us the "inside story".

    Rachel, thank you for telling us about you visit to NBC. It sounds as if everyone really appreciates what the people here do through all of you at Kennett Florist.
    Elaine S.

    Posted by: Elaine S. in SE TX at August 16, 2006 6:31 PM

    alex already has a stellar "other" career. nice job on bringing everyone up to speed on the Pacific Classic, thanks, alex.

    Posted by: Barbara Kerr at August 16, 2006 6:31 PM


    From every photo I have ever seen of Giacomo, he has a very DISTINCTIVE, and beautiful head. He is a great champion. And, what a georgeous boy. I love him too.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at August 16, 2006 6:34 PM

    Laurie H. in MN, I'm glad it did that for you. I see that "scene" often. Why not? If we promise not to be rowdy, the Jacksons might invite us over. We wouldn't go inside their home,of course, just congregate outside. (Guess we'd have to have a few of those porta-potties.)

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 6:35 PM

    Dearest Barbaro,

    How does it feel to be so loved and revered? You deserve all the accolades that are thrown at you!! What a wonderful, inspiring boy you are!!!!!
    I'm so happy to check on you each day and see ACN. I'm continuing to pray for you bunches though because I know you have a ways to go.
    You just keep on doing what Dr. Richardson and all the NBC staff tell you to do, and we're going to see you going out to graze in the sun to your heart's content. I love you bud.
    Thanks to Tim and Alex for keeping us updated. What a Godsend!!

    Posted by: Elaine Connors at August 16, 2006 6:37 PM

    For those who may not be aware of "Lost in the Fog".

    A worrying update on Lost in the Fog who was presumed to be colicing: Mass in Lost in the Fog Believed to be Cancer. The following is an excerpt:

    Gilchrist said that preliminary tests indicated that the lymphoma appears to be confined to the spleen. He said the mass is about the size of a cantaloupe. Lost in the Fog has won just one of his three starts this year, and Gilchrist had originally thought that quarter cracks were the culprits for the champion's sub-par efforts. "It turns out he's been running with this thing inside him this year," the trainer said. "It shows you what kind of warrior this horse is

    'Lost In Fog' Rolls Into Breeders Cup Undefeated

    SAN MATEO -- Lost in the Fog remained unbeaten in 10 career races Saturday, winning the Bay Meadows Speed Handicap by almost eight lengths over Halo Cat.

    The race, which served as Lost in the Fog's final prep for the Breeders' Cup later this month, was the 3-year-old sprint sensation's first competition against older horses. The easy victory solidifies his status as favorite for the BC Sprint on Championship Day at Belmont Park.

    Lost in the Fog, owned by Harry Aleo and trained by Greg Gilchrist, broke sharply from his inside post position and established a clear lead over his four rivals before completing the first quarter-mile of the six-furlong race.

    He stretched that to three lengths on the far turn without urging from Hall of Fame jockey Russell Baze and continued to add to it through the stretch.

    "He broke well and we sent him because we didn't want to get into any trouble," Baze said. "I let him run a little down the stretch because I wanted him to get something out of it. People were hooting and hollering in the paddock before the race but it didn't faze him. All he does is keep making me look good."

    Lost in the Fog is scheduled to travel to New York in two weeks to prepare for the Breeders' Cup.

    "This race was exactly what we were looking for," Gilchrist said in the winner's circle. "Now I just have to keep him healthy and happy. But we realize that the next one will be much more demanding. That's what the Breeders' Cup is, the best of the best."

    Lost in the Fog paid $2.10 to win as the prohibitive favorite in the five-horse field and earned $55,000 to boost his lifetime bankroll to $889,075. His final time of 1:08.05 was just .8 seconds slower than the track record.


    Posted by: David Letell at August 16, 2006 6:39 PM

    Giacomo,
    Is just georgeous! Aren't they all.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 6:42 PM

    Just an aside: Elvis had a Tennessee Walker (forgot his name), who performed in a show, to one of Elvis' songs, after Elvis was gone. Priscilla has a little clip of that in her "Tour of Graceland" video from several years ago. I've got the video but haven't looked at it in awhile.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 6:43 PM

    Loretta,
    I need alittle "beautiful place" to go to sometimes during my workday. (I work with all guys, for gosh sakes!) You gave that to me!
    Also, thank you for replying...I notice that you always reply. Thank you. I truly appreciate your time!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 16, 2006 6:46 PM

    Otherlyn, That's an interesting post about the TWs. Glad to know that's one group that can live a safe life. Thank you.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 6:46 PM

    Thank you, Laurie H. in MN. Sometimes I miss some posts when I get offline, then I wind up being late in thanking people.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 6:49 PM

    Just discoverd what the ###### mean before a post...sorry I didn't know the protocol before now.

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 6:50 PM

    Elvis's Tennessee Walker was named Ebony's Double, a beauty.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 6:53 PM

    Loretta, your posts always uplift me so much. I loved your vision and laughed out loud at the thought of porta-potties on the Jackson's lawn! What a great picture... Of course, they would be tucked away in some unassuming place, but all the same...

    Thank you for always keeping us grounded.

    Linda

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at August 16, 2006 6:55 PM

    Renee, Thank you. I wouldn't have remembered the name w/o pulling out the video.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 6:56 PM

    True, there are few things prettier than a flat shod TW showing off its true, natural gait! I'm glad that so many TW owners have joined together to end the practice of soring! It's about time that all owners do what is right for the horses regardless of breed.

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at August 16, 2006 6:56 PM

    Country Star Faces Charges For Killing Bear

    POSTED: 11:57 am EDT August 16, 2006

    DULUTH, Minn. -- Country singer Troy Lee Gentry appeared in U.S. District Court in Duluth Tuesday, accused of killing a tame black bear that federal officials say he tagged as killed in the wild.

    Gentry, 39, of Franklin, Tenn., and Lee Marvin Greenly, 46, of Sandstone, are both indicted for conspiring to violate the Lacey Act by falsely tagging a tame black bear as killed in the wild.

    Gentry is half of the singing duo Montgomery Gentry, a top country act since the late 1990s.

    Authorities allege that Gentry purchased the bear from Greenly, a wildlife photographer and hunting guide who owns the Minnesota Wildlife connection in Sandstone.

    According to the charges, Gentry shot the bear in an enclosed pen with a bow and arrow, then allegedly arranged for the doctoring of a videotape of the alleged "wild" kill.

    Gentry and Greenly made their initial appearances Tuesday before U.S. Magistrate Judge Raymond Erickson in connection with a sealed indictment returned by a federal grand jury in Minneapolis in July.

    The government alleged that Gentry and Greenly tagged the dead bear, killed on Greenly's property in October 2004, with a Minnesota hunting license and registered the animal with the state Department of Natural Resources as a wild kill.

    According to the indictment, Gentry paid about $4,650 for the bear, named "Cubby." The bear's death was videotaped, and the tape later edited so Gentry appeared to shoot the bear in a "fair chase" hunting situation, the government alleged.

    If convicted, both Gentry and Greenly face a maximum penalty of five years in federal prison and a $20,000 fine.

    Greenly also was charged with two unrelated crimes related to his work as a licensed commercial bear guide. The indictment alleges that Greenly and his employees guided commercial hunting clients onto the Sandstone National Wildlife Refuge, where he set up bear-baiting stations and hunting stands. In 2005, one of his clients shot and killed two black bear in the refuge, where it's illegal to hunt black bear, the indictment alleges.

    Greenly refused to comment Tuesday. A spokesman for Gentry said he couldn't comment.

    Minnesota's black bear population is healthy and the state encourages hunting as a way to control it, said DNR spokesman Mark LaBarbara. The department said hunters killed 3,391 bears in 2004.

    "But there's no question that the state does not condone shooting a pen-raised bear," LaBarbara said.

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 6:57 PM

    Otherlyn,
    'Walkers' do have a better quality of life than some other horses, but, things are done to them as well, just so they look better, prance better, etc.

    Love to Big B, LITF.XXXXXXOOOOOO

    Posted by: Margie at August 16, 2006 6:58 PM

    I had to post that.
    I am in tears right now for Cubby.

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 6:59 PM

    I am very concerned about Barbaro-do you realize that he has no hoof in the back left>>>>>>>>>>>and that hsi right hind hoof hasnt healed yet-Now lets take him for a walk-do you lknow how that much feel to Barbaro -all that weight-ona hoof that is gone-it would be like you putting a toothpick under your nail-it is the most painful disease-then pressing your nnail on to a surface bearing all your weight-if hislet hoof begins to hurt and he could put too much weight on the right hind foot and hoof then he will refounder-get laminitus in either the right hind or the two good front feet and hooves------that will be it -he cannot survive that-I do not thinbk that you all know the cost to Barbaro for him not being kept in his stall and in the sling-he got better when the sling and pain meds were given -obnly then-I kn pwo that you think it is great he is outside but wouldnt it be better when he has recovered and is out of the woodsBarbaro conditoion has not changed did dr r say he was stable now? no he even said he could develop complicationsand have to be put down-why the hurry-Like I said it can happen and happen fast-horse cant talk and tell you they are in pain-please read about laminitus and the treatment for it-drs do not always do what is right-many mistakes have been made already-if he had been put in a sling from starthe wouldnt have gotten this-cant we all wait a couple of months til he heals???????How would you feel if he founders again?and we lose him-I pray that you arent blinded and see common sense-he has no hoof to walk on and remember what he said after this happened-he was doinfg then what needed to be done please read about it-and dont think that drs always are right-he is a great dr but people make mistakes and I do not want to lose Barbaro-the epidurals and sling-they are what turned his health arpound-why arent they being uses now-he hasnt changed still only has 20 percent of hoof-for the hoof to grow back it has to have time to heal-walking is painful for a horse with this-I pray that you will see this and fight for what is beat for Barbaro to survive-I lost a horse to this-and so has a friend of mine-have patience it is great to see him out but wouldnt you want him to recover completely and have a chance for a life?????????? then we could really celebrate and he would be stable not one foot away from being put down-I pray you will read about this condition-tyremember what dr r said when he told about laminitus and what needed to be done-I do not understand why he has thrown caution and good vet ting to the wind-Barbaro wants to live and he shpould be treated very carefully like dr r was doing when his condition improved-

    Posted by: sally from florida at August 16, 2006 7:00 PM

    SNAP!! The sound of my Montgomery Gentry CD's breaking into pieces...

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at August 16, 2006 7:01 PM

    Hello!
    Prayers and candles continue for Barbaro round the clock, and I lit another votive candle by the Holy Family niche at the church yesterday morning for Barbaro!
    I believe in miracles, I believe in Barbaro!
    Love you sweetheart! Continue to think positive healing thoughts! Pleasant dreams, yummies, and give Dr. R and the Jacksons a loud "neigh"!
    My 81-YO Dad wondered if Bobby has gotten any pears with his treats . . .
    Dad sends you "scratchies", pets, and more prayers Bobby!

    To Faye: God Bless you for your post regarding The General and Miracle Horse Rescue. I had tears and wished so bad I could go with you to love those beautiful horses. I've marked Miracle Horse Rescue in my Favorites so I can keep posted on them. Please give them hugs for me when you are able to visit again - would mean so very much - thank you. Just look how Barbaro has brought such good things!

    "Lost In The Fog" is also now in my prayers and will have a candle, too. Strength for the journey to LITF and owners, bless you. Will be praying - please do not give up hope.

    Socorro - your posts this morning were so beautiful. I think you instill in all of us how many beautiful people do exist in this world. All the positive thoughts, prayers, healing energy coming to Bobby from all over the world!
    Bless you, Socorro! Have a beautiful day!
    Oh, and I was also up at 5:00 a.m. EST this morning, but did not see the beauty of nature that Alex was blessed to see! Our squirrel family and rabbits were apparently still asleep!

    Thank you, Alex, as always - you are such a gift!

    Hugs and "scratchies", a dose of sunshine and fresh air when Dr. R thinks it's safe, and my heart continues to beat for your heart, Barbaro!
    St. Jude, Our Lady, and St. Francis are watching over you and will send healing to you.
    Love and nuzzles! Lou Ann, Pennsylvania
    P.S. No fly should even think of bothering you!!

    Posted by: Lou Ann , Pennsylvania at August 16, 2006 7:01 PM

    ######

    Now Posse, we really need to straighten things out.
    Tail Hiney Swooshers...hehe...are there to provide this horse comfort from flies and not getting bitten. Please be careful falling from the trees and popping up from the ground we don't want to scare him off.Cleopatra we will talk later.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:03 PM

    ######
    Chris,
    That is absolutely horrible!! I hope both of them get the maximum penalty. What a terrible fate for a tame, caged bear that had no way to escape.
    Too bad those two men can't be taken out and shot with a bow and arrow.
    Elaine S.

    Posted by: Elaine S. in SE TX at August 16, 2006 7:05 PM

    If you can give something, GOD BLESS YOU.
    If you can't give something, GOD BLESS YOU.

    We all have a common bond, and that is our Barbaro. Remember love, prayrs, lighting candle are all giving.

    When you give you must give with LOVE not just to noticed! In my live I have given to alot of causes only because I have a passion for that cause. We as a group of caring people should understand that the Lord Works in many ways.

    BELIEVE IN BARBARO
    BELIEVE IN MIRACLES

    Carol

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at August 16, 2006 7:05 PM

    I had a Gentle Ben lunch box as a kid that I loved along with the show.
    I am sick right now.

    Please boycott their albums. The other one needs to go solo.

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 7:07 PM

    Wow, Chris Byers! I sneak a peak at the posts (from work), and I see the Cubby story!

    Thanks for posting, but 5years and $20,000 is not enough in my opinion!!!!!!!!!!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at August 16, 2006 7:08 PM

    Sally from Florida - I really don't think that Dr. R, NBC, or the Jacksons are going to do anything that will harm or hurt Barbaro. Especially since there is so much world attention on him. I beleive they are doing what is right for him, based upon his comfort, attitude and condition. Remember, his comfort is what is keeping him alive right now - it has been said before that if he weren't comfortable they would have put him down back when the "L" word first showed up. Let's keep positive thoughts here, ok?

    Your concern is touching and I love you for that.

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at August 16, 2006 7:09 PM

    I met those two when I was working in Radio...did not like them then and DO NOT like them at all now. They need to be put in a helpless situation with hungry bears...very hungry!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:10 PM

    Sally,

    You continue to post panicky messages. Did you even bother to read the responses that were made when you posted the same thing yesterday? Following is my response to you from yesterday.


    I understand your concern but at this time (and quite some time now), Barbaro is doing just fine. Just as with ANY horse, things can go wrong at ANY time. We can't protect them from everything.

    Keeping Barbaro in a sling throughout his recovery could very well have caused a catastophic event to occur. Spending every moment in a sling could have compromised his blood flow, caused him to colic and might have caused untold other complications over the LONG run. A lot of horses don't do well on stall confinement. We are lucky that Barbaro has accepted it. Can you image the stress a horse would feel if ALL freedom was taken away by having to live 24/7 in a sling?

    I know you are worried about Barbaro foundering again and I again understand your concern. I have a serverly foundered horse who has battle this disease for 15 years. (By the way, my horse foundered IN ALL FOUR HOOVES and recovered.)

    Once a horse is comfortable enough to start walking, the best thing for them is just that, walking. Walking keeps the blood moving in and out of the hooves and encourages hoof growth. Just as with humans, weight bearing exercise also increased bone density and therefore strength.

    Don't worry about Barbaro grazing. He has been receiving fresh picked grass throughout his recovery so his system is used to processing it. They are also restricting the amount of time he spends grazing, so the grass is not a problem either.

    Barbaro, just like my horse did, let his cartakers know he was ready to start moving again. Just to be sure, they (like I did with mine) backed off the pain meds and looked for signs of increased distress. He apparently didn't show any.

    Recovering from founder is a long road, but certainly not an impossible one. I'm not a vet, but I have helped and watched quite a few horses overcome it. It has been about a month since Barbaro experienced the onset of laminitis. In my experienced opinion, he is past the point of foundering in the other hooves. Typically, if it's going to happen, it's within the first couple of weeks.

    By now, he only has a SLIGHTLY greater chance of foundering than any other horse. I feel so certain of this that I'm willing to bet that he will be out of the cast on the right hind withing the next eight weeks.


    Sally, please stop posting such messages until you fully understand the situation. Barbaro is receiving the best possible care. Keeping him on stall confinement or in a sling that he may even need anymore may cause additional problems! He's ready to start moving again and this is something to celebrate. It was many, many months before my horse told me he was ready to come out of the stall. Stop trying to panic everyone.

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at August 16, 2006 7:13 PM

    Sally from Florida,
    Please don't worry youself sick. Barbaro is going to be fine. Dr.R., Michael the Jackson's and even Edgar won't let any harm come to him. We are all in this together with all of them and they know that. Please stop worring and enjoy what we have and are being given.

    Tim and Alex are also keeping us up to date on every thing. GREAT JOB GUYS!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:15 PM

    Chris Byers,
    Thank you for bringing Cubby's article to the board. As you have seen from my signature, I am in MN. I want to watch this story. I hope the Minnesota justice system doesn't fail Cubby. Thank you again.

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 16, 2006 7:16 PM

    Linda R in NE, I'm glad you like the posts. Yes, the porta-potties...well, if we're really going to be there...nature calls. But I see something bigger than a "lawn", per se, more like several acres...but with their house not too far away. It's just we wouldn't be right on top of their home. There'd be trees dotted around, so we could put the porta-potties in the shade near the trees. There'd be a few picnic tables ('cause surely they must have big get-togethers from time to time on the property), and we'd bring our folding chairs. Bobby would be in the distance, and I guess we'd just have to walk a ways out in the pasture to meet up with him. Although he might decide to come by us and get some vittles. I'm looking forward to this. We can all bring a big dish/bowl of something so we can sample each other's foods. Fresh cut fruit, sandwiches, ice tea and lemonade...I'll do New Orleans bread pudding with rum sauce; artichoke/green bean cassarole...okay I'm getting too hungry here.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 7:19 PM

    Joyce,
    I am just curious...why do you say this? It seems that other things could happen if you read what Dr.R. says, a bit scary to me.

    By now, he only has a SLIGHTLY greater chance of foundering than any other horse.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:19 PM

    Joyce, thank you. Since I don't know much about horses and their illnesses, reading posts that question his care really scare me. I get a knot in my stomach. I believe Barbaro is in the best care possible but when someone hits the panic button, I start to wonder. Thanks again for putting my mind at ease.

    I'll never stop praying for our beloved Barbaro, I truly believe he is going to continue to heal and get stronger every day.

    Posted by: Linda in NV at August 16, 2006 7:20 PM

    Thank you Laurie H. in Minnesota. Please let us know if you hear of anything. Just because he is a big "Star" does not give him the right to break the law and hire a legal team to get him off the hook. Can you imagine what horror poor Cubby went through. He trusted humans.

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 7:21 PM

    Joyce-So well put..thanks for your insight and understanding of the situation.

    Sally-Just as a point of reference for me, when your horse had this problem, was he/she in such a place like New Bolton Center? Since I am in the healthcare field, I see New Bolton Center/UPenn as the "Mayo Clinic" for animals, not a typical community type hospital when I compare it to humans. It is the BEST place for him, and as other articles have alluded to, Dr. Richardson has written the text book articles for treatment of this nature and lectures around the world on the subject matter at hand. He is like Dr. T. Trammell who puts racecar drivers back together as a world-known orthopod surg.Just my two cents.

    Cathy from North Carolina

    Posted by: Cathy at August 16, 2006 7:22 PM

    Loretta,
    You do know how to paint a beautiful picture.

    Barbaro walks around and puts his head on all our shoulders and looks in our eyes just to say "Thank you my friend for being there for me'.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:23 PM

    Loretta - I also look forward to that day and it is a beautiful picture - maybe even Bobby's little brother could be there somewhere too... Yes, a beautiful picture indeed. I could bring some mint brownies (they're a specialty of mine)... yummmm. Yes, I'm getting hungry too!

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at August 16, 2006 7:24 PM

    Chris Byers,
    I will be sure to follow this and let you know how it's going along. Hopefully other posters won't mind the topic. If so, we can take it elsewhere, okay?
    I am just livid with this. Cubby must have been stunned at being shot. He was probably expecting a pleasant visit of sorts, being it was a human. My heart is broken.

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 16, 2006 7:26 PM

    Sweet Bobby, so glad to hear you had ACN!

    Alex, love the foxes and deer. There is nothing cuter than a baby animal. Every once in a while I see fox or coyote in my area, and have seen one baby of each species.

    Bobby and Foggy, today is a day of good, positive signs for both of you. First, there's Alex's fox and deer--and the fact that his mounts didn't bolt or throw him.

    Then, there's the beautiful weather with no humidity today--an extreme rarity in St. Louis.

    Next, I now have hummingbirds visiting my back porch flower garden.

    Last and definitely not least:

    My beloved cat Felix is 20 years old today. He has fought through a severe foot infection, UTIs, and hyperthyroidism. He is the strongest and most loving cat I've ever known. For his birthday present, he's donating his gift money to animal rescue.

    Felix is sending all of his love and positive energy to Bobby and Foggy today so they get well.

    Proud Pear
    Very Proud Cat Mama

    Posted by: Susan E. at August 16, 2006 7:30 PM

    Chris,Laurie,
    I have no problem with it. Like I said met em' didnt like em'.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:31 PM

    I'll help too Laurie..you and me iz a team!

    MN is really pretty good at protecting animals, so I think they will procecute to the full extent.
    At least we hope so.

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at August 16, 2006 7:32 PM

    Barbaro Sweetheart,
    You were just on Fox News with the wonderful Dr.R. You look so nice!!!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:33 PM

    Just checking in quickly....

    Loretta! I love your description. I am now officially starving. Oh what a great image you painted!

    Thanks you :)

    Skyler

    Posted by: Skyler at August 16, 2006 7:35 PM

    Joyce: Well stated.

    A big problem with founder when it first occurs is the pain - They have managed to control it and Bobby is not having pain at this time. It is great that he can go outside, walk around, move, stand evenly...All of this is great news. That he can move and stand comfortably now helps him to not have founder problems going forward. NBC would not let him walk and graze if they had any concerns. They did it only when they knew he was sound enough to handle it.

    GROW HOOF GROW!!!

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at August 16, 2006 7:35 PM

    +++++ David Letell ++++++++++++++++++
    Thanks for posting about Lost In The Fog.
    He is a great horse, and pray he will get well!
    Praying for both our boys

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 7:36 PM

    Leslie in MN,
    I agree. I would like to think that MN is good to our animal population, both domestic and wild, (and in this case, tamed).
    Tonight I will look on the newspaper sites and country music sites to try and get more info.
    Leslie, I like the Team idea! Hopefully, we will get the story or stories.
    Chris Byers, WE will keep you and the board informed!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 16, 2006 7:36 PM

    Susan E.,

    Definately IS a gorgeous day here in ole St. Lou. My best doggy gal, Alice, and I had a fantastic walk. She took a nice roll in the grass and I dreamed of Bobby getting a good roll soonish.

    Love your Kitty Felix story. My boy, Hector is only about 11 and a rescue himself. We all donate to Stray Rescue.

    Best of love and prayers to Bobby J, Mike Rea, the Fog, and all of those in need today.

    Off to work,

    Posted by: mish ~ future vet tech at August 16, 2006 7:38 PM

    Good afternoon Barbaro and all,

    Thank God for another good day for our Sweet Prince. We will string those together until they make a path on which you can walk home.

    Thank you Alex for your patience and time in keeping us in Barbaro's world. Thank you to all of his caregivers, Dr. R., Allie, Rachel and everyone from Kennett Florist, Tom, Peter and anyone I may have forgotten.

    Sally dear, you have to restrain yourself (as we all do) from over-analyzing every word that we read in the updates. We need to focus on the positive with extreme determination and prayer and know that Barbaro is in Dr. Richardson's and God's hands and there could not be any better place to be.

    Please, everyone, remind people to send in their donations for Dr. Richardson's birthday. Have a wonderful afternoon. Debbie

    Posted by: Deborah A./ Colorado at August 16, 2006 7:38 PM

    Can anyone tell me the website to light candles
    Thank You

    Posted by: Grace S. at August 16, 2006 7:39 PM

    Please sign this petition. I first heard about it yesterday. In Bobby we can love all creaturs and help when we can.

    Sign the petition! Here's some language you can use/adapt in e-mail messages to your friends.

    Dear Friends,

    On Monday and Tuesday nights the CBS Evening News ran a two-part story on the brown bears who live in the McNeil River (Alaska) State Game Sanctuary. A limited number of visitors to the sanctuary have been permitted to watch the bears up close each summer as they catch migrating salmon. This has resulted in the bears becoming completely unafraid of humans. The State of Alaska has announced that buffer zones adjacent to the sanctuary that protect the bears will be open to trophy hunters in 2007. Without a natural fear of humans, these bears will be easy targets.

    You can read (or watch) the CBS report at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/eveningnews/main1894769.shtml.

    I have just read and signed an online petition against the hunting of these wonderful animals sponsored by the Friends of McNeil River organization: "Oppose Hunting of Brown Bears Near the McNeil River State Game Sanctuary, Alaska," which is hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mcneil66/

    I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself.

    Best wishes,

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 7:40 PM

    Lisa,
    Thank you for your post I understand better now.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:45 PM

    Grace,

    The website for the candles is gratefulness.org.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:48 PM

    WOW. Just read about Cubby. These are men of means and no hearts. 5 years and 20 grand is nowhere near enough punishment.

    Can we contact anyone in MN to express our outrage and press for maximum penalties?

    You can judge a person by how they treat animals. These men don't deserve any respect or fame. campaign so people know how horrible they are and stop purchasing their recordings.

    Shame on them. SHAME.

    Posted by: mish ~ future vet tech at August 16, 2006 7:48 PM

    I worry about Barbaro too and if he should be on all of his feet and legs until he is stronger. BUT, I do have the utmost faith in Dr. R and believe thast he would not have Bobby out of that sling anymore that is acceptable. I have asked Alex to see if he can get us a new "typical day in the life of Barbaro" which may put alot of minds at ease. Panic is often created by lack of understanding and I think we owe it to Dr. R AND to Barbaro to try to understand the situation before we pass judgement.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 7:49 PM

    GOOD AFTERNOON BARBARO NATION, BARBARO BRIGADE, BARBAROMANIACS, BOBBYHEADS AND ALL POINTS IN BETWEEN!!

    Such Wonderful News that Bobby spent ACN ... music to my ears as always!!

    Thanks to everyone who brings us up to date on all sorts of great information here ... the posters, Alex, Kennett Florist and on and on ... gratefulness doesn't even begin to express my personal gratitude for being able to come here and learn ALL I WANT AND NEED TO KNOW ABOUT BOBBY AND OTHER HORSE-RELATED ISSUES AND CONCERNS.

    And speaking of concerns, my heart goes out to everyone connected to "Lost in the Fog" ... such sad news, but we are HOPEFUL, RIGHT GANG??? AT LEAST I AM, after witnessing the Barbaro Miracle unfolding before our very eyes ... I DEFINITELY believe in Miracles and they can expand beyond Bobby ... in fact, I'm sure they ARE and will continue to! That's the legacy of "The Annointed One!!"

    Prayers and candles for Lost in the Fog, to be sure ... just letting those who are interested know that I light all of my candles for everyone at the Barbaro group page ... it just takes less time for me ... I light candles for Bobby, for Secretariat, for other beloved horses and people who are struggling for survival right now. I know they can do it, just like Bobby!!

    Posted by: Linnie at August 16, 2006 7:49 PM

    My final post on this - this is from the second part.

    The way we describe it is like shooting a neighbor's dog, it's heartbreaking," says Ken Day, who runs bear viewing tours in areas near the sanctuary along with his wife, Chris. "These bears come up to you and lay down and nurse their cubs and take naps. They feel protected by you from other bears."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/15/eveningnews/main1898409.shtml

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 7:49 PM

    I cannnot change your opinion but I speak from facts-my horse develoed founder in june-november she was put out to graze with reconstructed hoof all was well until they did that by thanks giving she was gone-I cant do anything but try to tell you but It is not heard-I tried-Dont understand why you cant see the picture here-dr r said he could develop complications last time that mean laminitus-I am sick over thsi and I lost a horse I do know what I said ois true-but like I said you want to not educate yourself about it-If barbaro founders again-I hope you will remember-I am concerned for his life-I am through trying to warn you all-for Barbaro please read about this condition you dont have to beleive me-I thought you all cared about barbaro-if you did you would educated yourself and not trust blindly-read about the pain involved- look up-(hoof founder-laminitus)

    Posted by: sally from florida at August 16, 2006 7:52 PM

    Renee,

    It's been a month since Barbaro began his war against laminitis and he is already growing new hoof wall. THIS IS HUGE NEWS! Obviously the disease is under control and Barbaro is/has won the battle. Yes, things can still go wrong and it's a vet's obligation to continually remind people of that. They would be negligent if they didn't. But things can go wrong with any horse (or human) at any time.

    EVERY horse is at risk of founder, colic and myriad other diseases, just as each person is at risk of contracting an illness. Because the possiblility exists, doesn't mean it will happen.

    The fact remains that Barbaro is receiving the best possible care. Yes, Dr. R. is concerned about all of his patients, but if he felt Barbaro was at extreme risk of (re) foundering he would certainly do everything in his power to prevent it. But that doesn't mean that the horse should live in a sling!

    At some point foundered horses NEED to start walking again. Actually, depending on the severity of the disease at onset, many vets still say to force the horse to walk. Walking is what gets the blood moving through the hooves as nature intended.

    As far as I know, there was never any report that stated that Barbaro's coffin bone had penetrated the sole. If laminitis was the ONLY thing that had happened to Barbaro, they probably would have called it a moderate case, instead of severe. And this is why I believe (again, not a vet, just have experience) that Barbaro is at a slightly greater risk than any other horse. He's in the best possible place, with the best caregivers and owners, and has access to every potential remedy available.

    Barbaro, at least for now, doesn't need to have a full hoof wall in order to be comfortable and keep his weight evenly distributed. His sole, most likely, has thickened to somewhat compensate for the lost hoof wall. He is also bandaged. Down the line they may even re-construct the hoof wall.

    We all saw the video. Barbaro did not appear to take a lame step even when he was turning. There was no head bob or hesitation. He's comfortable.

    Sorry for being long-winded, I just get blanked off when people go out of their way to cause others unnecessary worry.

    I hope I explained myself sufficiently and put some worries to rest. Hopefully the interview this evening will shed even more light on this.

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at August 16, 2006 7:53 PM

    Sally from Forida. I have one word for you, "Paragraphs!!!!!!!" Sheesh, I went blind reading your post.

    Much love

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at August 16, 2006 7:55 PM

    Gee, I wander off to attend my "picnic" with Barbaro, and I come back to read Sally's post.

    Dear Sally in Florida, I didn't see your other posts, but this one is enough to upset everyone on the board. I know you're concerned. There's no one here who's not concerned, but may I encourage you to read through the earlier positive posts today.

    We've got a vigil coming up Saturday. It's imperative that we focus on all the HEALING that is taking place. Worry, doubt, and fear can be INTERNALIZED by others, who are trying so hard to affirm the good that is occurring every day. I hope that by reading through the other posts, you will be able to calm your thought. I don't know if you believe this, or have ever read anything about how POWERFUL thought is -- for good or for bad -- but please, with all the GREAT PROGRESS that Barbaro has made -- I IMPLORE you, please try not to inject such negative thought here that can only bring people down who are already on "shaky" ground, and do nothing at all to help Bobby.

    I hope you don't get angry; it's just that the momentum needs to keep going in the positive direction for Bobby. Please, at least consider, that what I'm saying is true. There is no way, in God's green earth, that Dr. R. is going to jeopardize the life of this horse that he loves so much. We cannot "second-guess" the good doctor who is doing everything in his power, and calling on all his training and expertise, to care for Bobby and bring him this far.

    This is a time for GRATITUDE for this wonderful progress that we're seeing manifest every day. We need to mentally and prayerfully support that evidence of healing -- not weaken it. Please try to cast out those debilitating fear thoughts...for Bobby's sake. Please.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 7:57 PM

    Chris...I feel so sick that someone could do that to a tame and trusting bear :-(
    I don't even want to think about the scenario...I'm emotional enough already :'-(

    Posted by: Jo Edwards at August 16, 2006 7:57 PM

    Joyce - I agree - I have watched the video several times and each time I look closely at his gate - he doesn't seem to limp at all - a little stiff legged because of the cast - he doesn't appear to be uncomfortable. I take that as a good sign.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 7:58 PM

    chris byers,
    All animals should feel safe with us, but there are always those that ruin what should be good in this life. I am very upset over what has happened to Cubby.

    Hey gang I have an idea, call your local country radio stations and tell them you don't want to hear mucic by Montgomery and Gentry, due to the actions that were taken on an innocent bears life. Tell them there is a boycott against all and any CD's by M&G.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 7:58 PM

    It is so hard to understad why something had to happen to Bobby or any of the other horses; breakdowns, those being slaughtered or kept in bondage for the collection of a pregnant mare's urine, as with the premarine mares and the fate of their babies. Then we learned about the closing of The Wild Animal Sanctuary in Colorado due to lack of donations and now we hear about Cubby. So many to help !!!!

    I don't own any of Troy Gentry's music and never will.

    Also, signed petition c. bryer mentioned

    Love and Prayers for Bobby and everyone

    Karen M. - Texas

    Posted by: Karen M. at August 16, 2006 7:59 PM

    Sally, please give it a rest...we heard all this yesterday and we don't need this kind of negativity for Bobby.

    Posted by: Jo Edwards at August 16, 2006 8:00 PM

    I just sent my email to the station in honor of Cubby. Saying a boycott is being planned.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 8:08 PM

    I emailed my local country station and asked them to stop playing MG - also included the article.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 8:09 PM

    Skylar, Thank you. I have probably caused everyone to head straight to the fridge!

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 8:09 PM

    RE: Bear issue, what about country singer Troy Gentry being accused of shooting a caged bear he bought from a man and then edited the tape to make it look like the bear was wild. IF, they, both Troy and the man that sold him the bear, are found guilty I hope they throw the book at them!

    Posted by: Karen at August 16, 2006 8:10 PM

    Skylar, Thank you. I have probably caused everyone to head straight to the fridge!

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 8:10 PM

    Hello fellow Barberomaniacs.

    I hope sweet Bobby is out enjoying the wonderful sunshine as I write this. The video was wonderful to see, I had tears of joy.

    Definately prayers for Lost in the Fog. That is very very sad.

    Vicki, I am so happy that your horse is okay. Who would do that?

    Tim and Alex, thanks for all the great updates. We really appreciate this.

    To all who wrote poems and stories and gave us video...you are all so talented. I laughed and cried right along with you.

    Beautiful Barbero, you keep fighting and I'll keep praying.

    I'll remember the vigil.

    Love Louise in Ohio and the kidz, Yogi Tucker and Smoky..(doggy and kitties)

    Posted by: Louise at August 16, 2006 8:11 PM

    in any venue of life, each situation is a little different from the last...or the next.

    what happens in one case does not happen in all cases.

    Posted by: Anna at August 16, 2006 8:12 PM

    Re: Cubby justice

    Just a thought:
    What about contacting Montgomery-Gentry's Official Fan Club? Not to do harm to Montgomery but....
    What do you think? Effective or not?

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 16, 2006 8:13 PM

    Chris,
    RE: CUBBY
    From what I can glean so far, it appears as though it is the UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT that has brought these charges to light. It must be a US Fish and Wildlife jurisdiction. He seems to have appeared in front of a US judge. Perhaps begin your email campaign to the FEDS?

    Laurie and I will look for more. This story was all over the local news this morning.

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at August 16, 2006 8:14 PM

    Stay Positive for Barbaro and all of those others who need the happy, healing thoughts and prayers of so many. Letting negative thoughts take over can serve no purpose. He is in good hands with Dr. R and staff and ultimately he is is God's hands. Let us all have faith in him (whoever your him may be).

    We all love Barbaro with all of our hearts, and while it is natural to worry about things that we may not be well versed in, why worry until there is something to worry about?? It seems to me that our energy is better spent on the positive.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 8:15 PM

    Sally,

    Was your horse slowly re-acclimated to grass? When I bring back a foundered horse I start with literally 5 minutes of grazing per day and work up from there. It may take months (depending on time of year) to bring a horse back to full time grazing.

    Barbaro has been receiving fresh grass throughout his recovery. So agian, his system is used to processing the protiens and carbs found in grass. He has NOT just been turned out eat all the grass he wants and is being closely monitored.

    Sorry you lost your horse. I've had to say goodbye to a couple myself. But what you experienced with your horse is certainly not the same scenario as what Barbaro is going through.

    Joyce

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at August 16, 2006 8:17 PM

    Anna, well said...

    Posted by: Tracie at August 16, 2006 8:19 PM

    Joyce,
    Thank you so much for your long wind, I got a good education from you.I love horses and know some things about them but not like everyone here it is a good expierence to see the other side. I think I understand what got you going I'm seeing the light. ;)

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 8:19 PM

    Afternoon champ! How was your excursion today?

    Alex thanks for the information about Sunday's race. So sad to her about Lost in the Fog. I sure hope they find a surgeon. You can tell from the article how much this horse means to his owner.

    Alex too bad that your last name didn't start with a P because we can then say we have a direct link with the Associated Press. Sorry if this was mentioned before, my mind just got to it now.

    I won't be able to do the online PC, but I submitted a question and look forward to reading the transcript.

    Enjoy your evening Big Guy.

    Love ya,
    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at August 16, 2006 8:20 PM

    Sally,

    Now you're just starting to get nasty. Very uncalled for.

    FYI, I'll put my education and experience with founder against yours any time, any place.

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at August 16, 2006 8:21 PM

    Linda R in NE, Right before I read your last post, I suddenly "saw" Bobby's little brother at the "picnic", so we're obviously on the same "wavelength" here. What about Messaging? Bobby should have a few horsey friends at his party.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 8:22 PM

    I have to admit that normally I do not post to the site and just drop in to check on Barbaro's progress. I happened to see Sally's posts over the last few days and wanted to respond.


    A good friend of mine is a farrier and my son is working as his apprentice (irrelevant information) and in speaking with them, as well as researching Laminitis and Founder, I have found that exercise is recommended to increase circulation and to promote drainage of the area.


    I'm not sure what happened with Sally's horse, but Barbaro is receiving round the clock care and per ALL of the reports from Penn. he is a very intelligent horse, he knows when he wants to be in the sling and out of it. If he was the least bit uncomfortable they would not be bringing him outside at all.


    Sorry for the long-winded nature of my response.

    Posted by: Michele at August 16, 2006 8:23 PM

    Loretta,
    You have me laughing like a fool. The post about tending to the picnic and coming back. I can't stop laughing. OMG!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 8:23 PM

    Thanx Shelley! I had to leave and didn't see your post..but list a candle for Lost In The Fog under LIF...will go back and do another under "fog"..

    I hope that they can get the cancerous mass out and no complications ensuing..

    It horrifies me about that wild animal sanctuary closing and the animals having to be killed. Is that a "for sure" scenario or a possibility?

    I wanna thank Nancy for voting yesterday and I hope that some of our barbaro family will go there to cast a vote for General's mom Stephanie Pierce at www.volvoforlifeawards.com. Places like hers need any kind of support we can give them.

    Alex, I'm not a morning person but you made it sound so wonderful that I'm reconsidering. Any jobs available?

    See y'all a bit later

    Posted by: Toby at August 16, 2006 8:24 PM

    Lesie in MN and Chris Byers,

    OOOOOOOOh, FEDERAL.........yes!! That's serious!!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 16, 2006 8:25 PM

    Folks: I see your posts about "Cubby"; I can't bring myself to read that yet. I can tell from the posts how horrible this is. At some point I know I need to read the whole story, so I can join in on the "boycott". But I can't endure the pain right now that I know will result from reading about this innocent, trusting animal. The horrors than humans do. I can only hope that he died so fast that there was no pain... and no time to even realize what happened.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 8:29 PM

    Joyce,
    Don't let it get to you. Big Breath...You are very well educated on founders from the sounds of it. I'm sticking with you kid!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 8:30 PM

    Renee, So great you're cracking up! Susan E. had me in stitches one night!

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 8:32 PM

    Loretta,
    Its tough. I can't stand to see animals kill each other or fight or get hurt. I get all upset. You will do it in your own time.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 8:32 PM

    Thank you Michele!

    It makes sense that exercise is good for him. It's good for everyone! It helps circulation, digestion and sleep. So he wins all around.

    I don't like the idea of second guessing someone like Dr R (or Dr Anderson for that matter). They are the experts - they are also the ones with the contacts for research.

    So, why don't we spend our energy sending healing thoughts to Barbaro and stop (or at least take a pill for) the panic attacks.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 8:35 PM

    Loretta,
    I'm sorry for the Cubby items that I have posted. If you prefer, I can try to re-direct the info. Please let me know. I don't want to upset anyone.

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 16, 2006 8:36 PM

    Just voted for Stephanie.

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 8:37 PM

    Michele Welcome

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 8:37 PM

    Joyce Moore - once again, thank you for your patience to explain. I'm in total agreement.

    I think getting people into the 'panic mode' is really a bad idea. Our combined positive energies have achieved so much for Barbaro already. As we went through this conversation a day or so ago. Barbaro needs to walk for the physical aspect but maybe more importantly for the psychological aspect. This makes him happy to be outside and may also let him think that he is getting better (in his own way).

    I'm not a horse person, so your positive explanation is so very appreciated!

    Kathy

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at August 16, 2006 8:37 PM

    I met Sabina Louise Pierce, Barbaro's photographer today! I am so excited to tell everyone, I can't type fast enough!

    Let me do a brief set up as to how it happened: For those who don't know, I live in Collegeville, PA about 30-35 mins. from the NBC, which is in neighboring Chester County. Also in Chester County is a farm called Ryerss' Farm for Aged Equines in Pottstown, PA. This is a retirement farm for aged or abused horses. It is a wonderful place for these horses and they have volunteers there to care for them and the horses have a lot of land to graze on. Anyway, I take my 7 year old son there with me from time to time to feed the horses carrots and just visit and pet them. When we walked in today, I saw a woman and I thought to myself "She looks just like Sabina Pierce" and I just dismissed it. On our way out, this same woman was in the front office area and as we stopped to drop off a donation, I asked the woman in the office if that was Sabina Pierce and she said it was and I should go say hello.

    So, I walked in and said hello and told her what a fan I was of her photos. She said, "My Barbaro photos?" and I said yes, as well as all of her photos on her web site. She was very nice and very humble (as I interrupted her lunch). She went on to say that she is in the video of Barbaro grazing - she's one of the people in the beginning wearing a long, blue smock where he first walks outside. She said she took photos of him grazing and has to put them up on her web site. She also said Barbaro is a biter and she mentioned the picture of her with Barbaro and she is telling him not to bite her in that photo. She said that Barbaro definitely knows when the camera is around and poses for it.

    She also mentioned something regarding his pain medicine. I'm trying to remember what she said, but I was so excited...I think she said that he is either off of it entirely now, or has just very little. And right after this last surgery, he had had an epidural with a drip in. So it sounds like his pain is indeed lessening! :)

    I told her she is lucky to be able to photograph Barbaro and she said she is indeed very lucky. She also told me she has a horse at Ryerss Farm who was a rescued horse. I asked her which one it was, as we had just fed all of them carrots and she said hers was "Toby". "Toby" was one of the last few my son and I had fed and as we turned our backs to him, he kicked up his back hooves and was kicking his stall. It scared my son and I and we left that part of the barn. I told her about that, and she grinned and said "That's Toby". She said Toby has a similar personality to our Barbaro.

    I told her how talented she is and how much I enjoyed her photos. She was very nice and we should keep checking her web site to see when she posts those new photos. I think she manages to capture Barbaro's personality in her photos beautifully.


    Posted by: quita19426 at August 16, 2006 8:38 PM

    Does everyone know about the "chat" w/Dr. R. on the "Bloodhorse" tonight at 6p ET?

    Alex will post a link shortly before that time.

    I'll have to keep my eyelids open with toothpicks b/c I've been on here all day!

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 8:38 PM

    Good night sweet Barbaro. Pleasant dreams.

    LITF - you will be OK. Love and prayers are with you.

    Carrot people - have a good night!

    Thank you, Alex.

    Posted by: Margie at August 16, 2006 8:39 PM

    Sally, Regarding your posts about your concern for Barbaro. They have been listened to and responded to with great care, including one by me. Now, it's time to go onto something more constructive and helpful to others. Either you want to draw a lot of attention to yourself or you are putting us on. There's no logical reason to continue "beating a dead horse".

    When I lost my two horses I went to counseling and it helped so much with my grief.

    All the best to you Sally!

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at August 16, 2006 8:41 PM

    Wow Quita - you are very lucky! Sabina came off as a sweetheart during her televised interview.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 8:42 PM

    quita, What a wonderful post! Thank you! So glad to hear about his decreasing pain meds.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 8:43 PM

    Joyce Moore, I have enjoyed your very informative posts today. No one could have said it better about Bobby, his condition, and the care he is receiving. Thank you.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 8:47 PM

    quita,
    Lucky you! Good post.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 8:48 PM

    Maybe the time has come not to respond to Sally.

    Posted by: Jennie (Kentucky) at August 16, 2006 8:48 PM

    Posted by: Wm & CL at August 16, 2006 05:15 PM

    Wm & Cl - I have been off the board most of the morning. Just saw your post - thank you for your acknowledgement, but that sounds like God's inspiration! The Prayer of Protection that I post to Bobby in the morning and evening was written by James Dillet Freeman many years ago.

    Good Heavens - Bobby is protected! Evil didn't cause his accident! Evil exists in the darkness, not in the light. There is plenty of light here!! And energy and power does go where you have your attention - so I agree with whoever said - focus your attention on the positive! See him healed - and know he is Protected.

    Sorry - too much emotion - but certain things just can't stand.

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at August 16, 2006 8:51 PM

    Laurie H. in MN, No, it's ok; I'm not sure where the best place would be to post the sad stuff. If we don't know about the animal abuses, then we can't act. So, I don't know. Maybe people can "chime in" as to whether the abuse topics should be here or on one of the other places Alex set up for us.

    I never would have known about the horse slaughter bill if it hadn't been posted here. I guess if it's a current topic that we can all jump in and do something about, then people will likely find it here. Maybe if it's an old story that is sad, but doesn't have an avenue of action to prevent further occurrances...maybe that could go somewhere else? I'm just thinking out loud here. What does everybody else think?

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 8:56 PM

    Loretta,
    I just got back online and read your posts about the picnic. I was laughing my head off...those are so cute! We could all have a wonderful time at the Jackson's!!!
    Haven't chatted with you before today. Are you new to the board as of today!!?? If so, welcome to the Barbaro Maniacs!
    Lynn

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at August 16, 2006 8:57 PM

    JOYCE wrote: I hope I explained myself sufficiently and put some worries to rest. Hopefully the interview this evening will shed even more light on this.>>

    You did a great job in explaining a few things in your post, Joyce. Thanks a million for taking the time to do it.

    Posted by: Christine at August 16, 2006 8:58 PM

    Loretta,
    We could put a heading *Animal Abuse* that way we can either read it or scrool by it.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 8:58 PM

    Lou Ann,
    We can always find something good or bad, it all depends on our outlook. Sometimes we need to focus on the good to make us feel better. From your post, I get the impression you are a person who tries to focus on the positive and for that thank you.

    May I please say something in reference to Sally in Florida? Hope the answer is yes.

    If you ask Sally to quit posting her questions, she may feel uncomfortable and be pushed away from what I think is a great group. Everyone has been wonderful in educating the ones, like myself, learn and understand more about horses.

    Perhaps Barbaro's greatest achievements will be that he has united people from all over the world and brought awareness to people who never even owned a horse. I am learning so much from reading the posts. If no one asks questions, how will we learn?

    Best regards to all and best wishes to Barbaro and the Jacksons.

    Posted by: Socorro at August 16, 2006 9:00 PM

    Loretta, Yes you're right, certainly Bobby should have Messaging and maybe a couple other horses for good measure. Hmmm, wonder who we should invite... Then, maybe at the picnic they will get some special hay or oats that will help them appreciate all the good food we're planning!

    Still beautiful!

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at August 16, 2006 9:01 PM

    ####
    Wm & CL - good heavens - I hope you realize the second paragraph of my post was not meant for you - 2 different topics.

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at August 16, 2006 9:03 PM

    Good afternoon, all!

    Lyn Gilbert--loved your post at 12:58.

    For those who don't understand "all this attention paid to a horse", they need only look at the great love so many in this country had for Seabiscuit at a time when we really needed a "hero". The crowds that showed up just to see his train pass by were amazing! Great book, by the way, for you folks who haven't read it. Another sweet, brave horse.

    Strength and sunshine to Barbaro, Lost In The Fog, and all those little fox kits that Alex sees each morning!

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at August 16, 2006 9:05 PM

    Linda R and Loreta,
    Don't forget the StudMuffins!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 9:07 PM

    Loretta

    Maybe we can ask Alex to add an Animal Abuse Articles folder to the forum. He's always open for suggestions.

    I don't mind it being posted here but maybe it can be posted more in depth over there???

    Just an idea.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 9:08 PM

    Loretta ;)

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 9:08 PM

    Chris Beyers
    Laurie

    Chris.. perhaps you can bring the cubby issue in to the Forum area. Laurie and I can post the items as we come across them and you can place your concerns there as well.

    This way, folks can choose to go to the topic when and if they are ready or interested.

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at August 16, 2006 9:09 PM

    Renee, of course you're right - stud muffins and carrots with the green on the tops... how silly of me! LOL

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at August 16, 2006 9:09 PM

    Thanks for the article on Giacomo. I LOVE him so much. People are sometimes down on him because he was a 50-1 winner of the 2005 Kentucky Derby, but he was the best horse that day!! He'll always be great in my eyes.

    Pray for Lost In The Fog.

    Bravo Barbaro Bravo!

    Leslie, Indiana

    Posted by: Leslie K at August 16, 2006 9:10 PM

    Barbaro, you have ACN and sweet dreams of peppermints and carrots! I will check on you in the morning. As always, you will be in my thoughts and prayers. I hope you were able to go out today and get some sunshine and fresh air. I know that must be the highlight of your day, other than boing in your sling! I still would love to see a picture of that!

    Prayers To Lost In The Fog.

    LOVE YOU B!

    BLB!!!

    Karen - TN

    Posted by: Karen at August 16, 2006 9:10 PM

    Hi, Team Barbaro!

    Finished my flyer...now want to catch up on the posts.

    Ohhhh. don't get me started re Cubby. Keep us posted and let me know what I can do to help.

    Sally in Florida, I understand your fears, but please remember that Barbaro needs the positivity. We've got a lot of love and prayer around him right now. He is getting some of the best care on the planet and nobody would ever place him in danger. He is closely monitored and all of us here are taking it one day at a time. Dr. R's treatment of him is nothing short of inspired and Bobby's will to live is nothing short of astounding. Listen to Bobby's messages...open your heart and release your fears.

    Am getting ready in my mind for the trip to DC on 9/5. I'll be there. I even have a poster in mind to design and will take copies of "Barbaro's Dream" with me...this is gonna be fun and we'll be able to help shut down the slaughterhouses. Who all is planning to go????

    Quita, how cool to meet Sabina! I bet she is such a sweet person. I know where Ryerss is...I'll stop by there after my son's wedding...

    Must go get ready for yoga. Will be on chat tonight after class (but will virtually tuck B in first...gotta do that.).

    3 days till my son's wedding. Right now, I'm OK. Played some beautiful music from an anime feature he loves and dissolved in tears (its a beautiful anti-war feature), but they were tears of joy at his becoming such a sweet, intelligent, compassionate man who is marrying such a sweet, smart, kind young woman I am honored to call my daughter. I am so darn proud of him and Liz. Yahoo!!!!

    Be back later.

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at August 16, 2006 9:12 PM

    Loretta:

    Please don't take this the wrong way. I've been reading your posts on and off the past couple of hours. Wow!

    I know you are really keen on the power of positive thinking (I just started to read your response to Sally--didn't finish it).

    What has happened to you? Before you seemed so heavy handed. Today you seem much more mellow. I actually like you and want to read what you have to say...

    Whatever it is you're doing different don't stop! I for one appreciate the lighter hand you're dealing out.


    Michael's Miracle

    Margaret

    Posted by: Margaret at August 16, 2006 9:14 PM

    Dawn in Omaha...just read your post. Thank you so much.

    Now could we get Sabina to come with us to DC to photograph all that get to go????

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at August 16, 2006 9:16 PM

    Hi, Barbaromaniacs:) Taking a little break here at work and of course started reading some posts.

    I just realized that Loretta is back.


    Welcome back, Loretta!!!!

    I just love reading your posts.

    Jeanette Cavalier

    Posted by: Jeanette Cavalier at August 16, 2006 9:18 PM

    Barbaro Buddies,
    Time for me to fly. I hope I make it home to hear Dr. Wonderful. Thanks for a great day.

    Love You Sweet Barbaro. Big Hugs and Kisses!! MUAH
    Sleep well, sweet dreams,wish on a star. Good night Baby Boy.
    Renee

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 9:18 PM

    This is the most I have ever seen Loretta post. esp chatty today.

    Glad Barbaro had another great day.

    My prayers and thoughts go to the owners and caretakers of Fog.

    Posted by: Mary L at August 16, 2006 9:18 PM

    Lyn send her an email. I'm sure if she can she'll be there. e are tying to get her to attend Dr Dean's party to take photos.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 9:18 PM

    LynG

    Are you going to Washington???

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 9:18 PM

    Loretta,

    You have brought up some good ideas, too keep things from getting too congested here, why don't you visit Alex's other forum/message board and start a good topic?? you will find some others there that will join in and need your guidance.

    either click on my name or c&p below

    hope to see you over there!

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/timwoolley/

    Posted by: Mary L at August 16, 2006 9:24 PM

    Sally:

    What is your intent here? Have you not listened to Dr R? Do you not read the updates from UPENN and here--that specifically indicate that Bobby is feeling less pain? Why would you give a horse pain meds and a sling when he no longer needs it? You can't coddle him forever.

    If Bobby were miserable it would show in his eyes. It would show in his vitals. He would be hesitant to move.

    Did you not see the video from UPENN (not any other one)? This one has a 30-45 sec clip where Dr R tells us that the first day Bobby went out he was a little lost (Jeannine Edwards described it as "where the hell have I've been for the past three months"). But after that first day Bobby dropped his nose into the grass and started being a horse again.

    I have to sincerely question your motives here. Flaming one of the best vets in the country? Why would you do this? What possible motive do you have for coming here and tromping on all the good that's been happening?

    I really hope that you'll listen to Dr R this evening. If you can't get into the chat I hope you'll read the transcript. It should be very enlightening to you. And put you at much more ease.


    Michael's Miracle

    Margaret

    Posted by: Margaret at August 16, 2006 9:30 PM

    Barbaro is doing so well. I am so happy that all of this good is happening. I pray so hard everything will be okay with him. He looked so beautiful in those pics of him grazing. I live for the day when he is outside. He looked so happy. Long live Barbaro!!!

    Posted by: Amie at August 16, 2006 9:30 PM

    ShellyA, yes I am. I'll get there one way or another.

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at August 16, 2006 9:33 PM

    Lyn
    E-mail me sometime. No rush, we have plenty of time. I'm thinking of taking the train

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 9:35 PM

    I've posted on the forum for people in the area to e-mail me if they can make it to Washington. Nice if we could keep our group together.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 9:38 PM

    I WISH I WORKED FOR KENNETH FLORIST!!! WOULDN'T IT BE FUN TO DELIVER TO NBC FOR A JOB!!! ALL THEIR POST ABOUT NBC DELIVERIES ARE SO UPBEAT AND HAPPY, I'M JEALOUS, I JUST HAVE A REGULAR JOB. SERIOUSLY, I'M GLAD WE HAVE SUPER SPECIAL PEOPLE TO DELIVER FOR US. THANKS KENNETH FLORIST!! CINDY A.

    Posted by: cindy a at August 16, 2006 9:41 PM

    I am heart broken to hear the news of Lost in the Fog. Let's keep that sweet, huge-hearted creature in our hearts and prayers as well.

    I'm looking forward to the chat w/Dr. R. tonight! Have a good evening, all Barbaromaniacs.

    I believe!!

    Posted by: Kristina at August 16, 2006 9:43 PM

    Hope you had another wonderful day, Barbaro, enjoying the sun, the birds, the grass. Love you so much!!

    Can't wait for Dr.R's chat!

    Love Always and Forever,
    Daphne and Pee
    P.S. You will always be in our heart, special boy!

    Posted by: Daphne at August 16, 2006 9:44 PM

    Hi, Barbaro Team:) Sneaking another break at work.

    Lyn Gilbert:) My son is getting married on Saturday, also at 2:30pm

    More reason to celebrate!!!!

    Jeanette Cavalier

    Posted by: Jeanette Cavalier at August 16, 2006 9:48 PM

    Alex,

    Thank you for everything you do to keep us informed. Going to Dr. R's chat.

    Posted by: Socorro at August 16, 2006 9:48 PM

    Jeanette - here's to being a mother-in-law. We're gonna have so much fun.

    Will move to Dr. R.'s chat...can sneak in for about a half hour...

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at August 16, 2006 9:56 PM

    I've been off board all day again and won't even attempt to read all these post since I last checked early this morning.

    Looking forward to chat with Dr. R.

    Alex, thanks for all the intersting info.

    From what I have read here, seems like of you are beginning to worry about Bobby and questioning his treatment. I have "what if" questions that come into my mind too, but we need to continue to BELIEVE that he will be healed. For me, looking at all the miracles that have already taken place makes it much easier to belieive that he will continue his miraculous recovery. There might still be setbacks and each day may not be perfect, but I truly believe God will continue his healing. I continue to pray, BELIEVING AND EXPECTING continued good reports for Barbaro. I praise God right now for all He has already done AND for what He will continue to do. I also pray for wisdom for everyone working with/for Bobby, and therefore, I BELIEVE that theses people are making the right decisions.

    WOW, this is the longest post I've ever made. I'm off to chat with Dr. R>

    Posted by: Susan in TX at August 16, 2006 9:57 PM

    Can anyone tell me why Edit find on this page don't work on this site. Is yours working?
    Any news on Lost In The Fog, did he have surjury today. We need to pray for him. And his Doctors.

    Barbaro am praying for you too. You truley
    Michael's Miracle

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 9:58 PM

    I have to leave now and won't be able to hear the chat. Can anyone record it or something for me!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 9:59 PM

    Hello fellow barbaromaniacs!!!

    I don't send a message everyday but I am checking for updates 2 to 3 times a day. I would like to thank everyone for all of their wonderful thoughts,poems, stories and words of encouragement for our special boy!! Most of the time I am laughing and sometimes there are tears.
    With all of the craziness going on in the world it great to see that people can come together and support each other.

    Sweet bobby, I saw your video today for the first time. my computer is so slow that I went to the library at lunch. you look great !!!! Have a great evening and dream of the days of grazing in the grass to come.

    Lost in the fog, I am praying that all goes well.

    Gotta go and light some candles!!
    Adrienne

    Posted by: adrienne at August 16, 2006 10:00 PM

    His name, Lost In The Fog is too long.
    Do they call him Fog in the barn. I don't like Foggie.
    Pray!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 10:00 PM

    Anyone having trouble with the Blood Horse site?

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:03 PM

    Yes

    Posted by: Christian at August 16, 2006 10:04 PM

    Janice,
    I am in the site but it is not showing any "chat". Maybe it hasn't started yet ????

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 10:04 PM

    Whew!! Thanks I feel better.
    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:05 PM

    Yes, when I click on what I think is the link I get page not found

    Posted by: Barbara A Richmond, VA at August 16, 2006 10:05 PM

    the direct URL will be: http://www.bloodhorse.com/talkinhorses/DR081606.asp

    i guess not live yet!

    Posted by: alex at August 16, 2006 10:05 PM

    Alex, I tried that URL - nothing.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:07 PM

    Thanks Alex-
    Do we seem impatient?

    Posted by: Christian at August 16, 2006 10:07 PM

    I got the "page not found" message on that site too.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:08 PM

    arggggggggggggggg

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 10:08 PM

    is anyone getting anything?

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 10:09 PM


    I second that Sally. No page found.

    Posted by: Debbie B. from Miami, Fl. at August 16, 2006 10:09 PM

    me too...page not found....aaahhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrr

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 10:09 PM

    You're right - I guess we do seem impatient. I just don't want to miss it.

    Thanks Alex,
    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:09 PM

    I get the same -no page found.

    Sharri

    Posted by: Sharri in Ohio at August 16, 2006 10:10 PM

    Not getting anything but "the page cannot be found."

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 10:10 PM

    Page not found here too.

    Not impatient just excited to hear what he has to say :)

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 10:10 PM

    Hi janice, hi salley, hi debbie...

    Hi Alex...do you know what's going on?

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 10:11 PM

    Me too

    Posted by: Linda H in Denvr at August 16, 2006 10:11 PM

    I'm constantly hitting "refresh" too. I wonder if Bloodhorse didn't expect the volume of traffic.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:11 PM

    To Barbaro, What great news that you get to go outside now and walk around some, that is the best news ever! You will love the sunshine again and seeing everything around you, I am so happy for you Beautiful Boy! My prayers are with you everyday and night, have a great evening!
    mary

    Posted by: mary at August 16, 2006 10:12 PM

    aLEX - HELPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 10:12 PM

    Oh, I'll say it...I am impatient...I just dont want to miss what he has to say either.

    If worse comes to worse, we can always read the transcripts. Shoot.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 10:12 PM

    Hi Therese,
    Nothing yet.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:12 PM

    I wonder if we overwhelmed the server?

    Posted by: Barbara A Richmond, VA at August 16, 2006 10:12 PM

    I wanna see Dr Dean and I wanna see him now!!!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 10:13 PM

    Not working for me either .... darn !!!

    Sherry

    Posted by: sherry at August 16, 2006 10:13 PM

    Barbara,

    That would be my guess too.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:14 PM

    Is this what is called "chopping at the bit?"

    Posted by: learntoletitgo at August 16, 2006 10:14 PM

    HEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPPP!!!!!!

    Posted by: Jo Edwards at August 16, 2006 10:14 PM

    Sally girl, silly girl, how are you???

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 10:14 PM

    wonder if they are having "technical difficulties"??

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 10:14 PM

    Boo Hoo! I so wanted to see what he had to say in response to some questions. Will keep trying. If ANYONE gets in PLEASE let us know how you did it :)

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 10:14 PM

    Therese = right now I am chomping at the bit - whats going on - I want Dr Dean now!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 10:15 PM

    Go to Alex's link and then just scroll down on the page!

    Posted by: Kristina at August 16, 2006 10:15 PM

    I am so bummed!
    I think maybe they are overloaded with thousands of Barbaromaniacs hitting it.

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 10:16 PM

    Kristina,

    What??? I get "page not found".

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:17 PM

    Go to the top of this page, click on Alex's link
    Looks like you need to refresh the page to get the next question.

    Good luck!

    Posted by: Linda in NV at August 16, 2006 10:18 PM

    Hey everyone. I clicked on the home page and this is what it says:

    "Editor’s Note: Due to the unprecedented response to this Talkin’ Horses chat, Dr. Richardson was unable to answer the more than 400 questions submitted. The questions below are a cross-section of those submitted, many of which were the same or similar in nature. Also, the numerous
    submissions of encouragement and concern for Barbaro and the New Bolton Center team will be forwarded to New Bolton. Thanks for your participation in Talkin’ Horses. —Ron Mitchell, Online Editor"


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 10:19 PM

    I guess that I'm not the only one having problems with the link. Wish I could hear him.

    Patti, Sherman Oaks, CA

    Posted by: Patti at August 16, 2006 10:19 PM

    click on the link and scroll down. You have to keep refreshing to see new questions. I was so hoping for audio visual!

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 10:20 PM

    Wow!! I'm so honored! Mine was the first question he answered!

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 10:20 PM

    Go to Alex link at the top of this page. Click on that and it will take you there.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:24 PM

    RE GIACOMO - what is meant by "he trained very forwardly"? Thanks - I assume it means something other than he runs in the right direction!
    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 16, 2006 10:25 PM

    I am not having any trouble? Just click on the page where it says that he is answering questions and it will take you to the page where the questions and answers are. You have to keep hitting the refresh button, because he is answering them right now.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 10:25 PM

    Well, I can see the chat now - thank you :) But even when I refesh the last thing I see if from Omaha, NE. Anyone else having this issue?

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 10:25 PM

    Margaret, Thank you for the lovely post! I really appreciate that. I hope you get to read this; I had to go change a diaper (not mine!) and feed the baby, and let the dogs out in the back yard. When I'm on this board, my life stops.

    What's happening now is actually exactly the way it was when I first started posting months ago. I was saying the same things and was getting positive responses, like today. No one was criticizing my statements, etc. I would post my thoughts, like today, and everything was cheery and harmonious.

    Then, all of a sudden, the evening of the 1st vigil, I became very concerned about a poster who was so excited about the vigil that she announced she was going to call all the media. This announcement came on the heels of a poster the night before who had a similar idea. Myself and another poster that vigil eve, were successful in explaining to that person that since Barbaro was in a life and death situation (you probably remember that was when Dr. R. made the shocking announcement to the public), that it probably would not be his best interests to have a bunch of media present with their likely negative and fearful thought focused on Bobby -- especially right there at NBC where he is. The other poster who agreed w/me, happened to have worked with the media herself, and concurred that the media (in general, at that time) would be looking for a story, and perhaps to exploit Bobby -- and this would not be the mental environment conducive to a vigil, which was supposed to be concerned with prayer, affirmations, meditations, etc. for Bobby's healing. Things escalated that evening b/c some thought I was "heavy-handed", some thought I was "scary", and for whatever reason, even though I kept trying to explain that I knew from experience in "healing" that extreme caution and seriousness had to prevail that night for Bobby's sake. (Much like one of my posts earlier today when I cautioned that Bobby is "not out of the woods", and spoke of the "evil" in the world that hates us and Bobby). But the more I tried to explain that evening, the worse it got. Now, had Bobby not been in a life/death situation (remember, at that juncture, Dr. R. wasn't even sure he would make it the next 48 hrs., so he was really in a fight for his life that could turn on a dime), I wouldn't have been so "firm" in trying to explain how powerful thought is, and how the whole mental atmosphere surrounding Bobby could work for good...or bad.

    Thereafter, every time I tried to make any comment at all, even if I got some good responses (which I did), there were always a few posters who decided to take issue with me, even though I wasn't even communicating with them. I was referred to as a "troll", etc. Again, my attempts to clarify, re-state...whatever...just fell on deaf ears. One evening, one nice poster even took up for me, but that didn't even help.

    It came to a head, as you probably recall, last week, when I had been away from the board for a few days, only to return to find quite a few less than favorable posts directed to me. I decided to answer them all in one fell swoop. Not in anger...just to have my "day in court", so to speak. I even said I wasn't angry or hurt -- just wanted to respond. It actually wasn't all bad...because one poster apologized to me, and I was grateful for that, and thanked her.

    I felt no need to come back to the board for a few days -- even to check the updates -- because I was enveloped in a clear sense that Bobby was doing great, and held to that thought. Many weeks ago I had had a "vision" (which I posted) of Dr. R. coming to the clinic early in the morning and finding Bobby totally healed and ultimately galloping outside. (Someone asked me to re-post that, but I need to find it.)

    So today, I felt the need to "check in" on Bobby, and was surprised myself to see the rapid progress that had elements in it of my former "vision". So I decided to post something, and no one jumped all over me -- just like in the earlier weeks. If I knew what "update" to tell you to go back to, when my posts were received like they were today, you'd see that I'm still me.

    I think whatever ill feelings were stirred up the 1st vigil night, have dissipated.

    In an old Chinese text, there's an explanation of a "breakthrough" which clears the air. It describes a "breakthrough" as "...after a long accumulation of tension, as a swollen river breaks through the dikes, or in the manner of a cloudburst."

    What's interesting to me is that this "breakthrough" is coinciding with Barbaro's "breakthrough". All of the tensions are being relieved, so now my words, even though they seem "lighter-handed", are actually the way I started out. And just like in the early days of my posts, when Bobby was steadily progressing, I wasn't getting criticized, so I had no need to try to clarify anything.

    This is my analysis of it, anyway. I'm really the same person. Also, my "funny bone" came out today; it was late at night the other time that happened, so a lot of people didn't get to see that I can be serious one minute -- when it's necessary for Bobby's protection -- then sad another minute -- like the sad animal stories -- then silly the next -- like when thinking about the "picnic" with Bobby, the porta-potties, and my scrumptious bread pudding!

    I guess ya'll are going to hold me to that bread pudding w/rum sauce when we arrive at the "picnic". Don't let Bobby have any, though; we don't want him stumbling in the stall from too much rum!!

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 10:26 PM

    Laura that is the last thing you see because that is the last question he has answerd so far. In a few minutes refresh and you will see another question.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 10:27 PM

    I still can't see or hear anything!

    Patti, Sherman Oaks, CA

    Posted by: Patti at August 16, 2006 10:27 PM

    ..."remarkably intelligent horse" ...i knew that.

    :)

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 10:28 PM

    Sandie,

    That's great!!

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:28 PM

    BARBARO...I love you.....

    Thanks for Marys' beautiful video,Mahler--good!

    Will be praying for Fog..

    Am on chat...

    AM getting a list of questions he is answering...just typed out...KEEP REFRESHING (latest refresh 6:27pm)

    http://www.bloodhorse.com/talkinhorses/DR081608.asp

    (am using firefox)

    Linda A
    Oregon

    Posted by: Linda A in Oregon at August 16, 2006 10:29 PM

    YOu are not going to "hear" or "see" Dr Richardson. All you are going to "see" are his answeres.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 10:29 PM

    Thank you Lynda. Also, cleared the cache on my machine and things are running smoother now :)

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 10:29 PM

    My question was the same as Omaha NE I just used a few more words to say it.

    Isn't this fantastic??

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:32 PM

    RE chat. Does everyone know to scroll down to the bottom of the page that Alex linked for us?

    Posted by: Mirth at August 16, 2006 10:33 PM

    I am getting the written posts. Thank you Linda from Texas.

    Patti, Sherman Oaks, CA

    Posted by: Patti at August 16, 2006 10:34 PM

    Oh MY GOSH!

    That was my question!!! Even though he didn't answer it

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:34 PM

    I asked about a typical day for Barbaro - haven;t seen him address that yet, did I miss anything related to that?

    Yes, this is GREAT!!!!

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 10:35 PM

    Oh I love that picture of Barbaro grazing!

    Posted by: Linda in NV at August 16, 2006 10:36 PM

    Laura,

    That is a great question and I do hope they use it.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:38 PM

    Loretta - thanks for the post. I totally understand. I'm glad you are back and I'm glad you are being a little silly - its very refreshing.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 10:38 PM

    Hi Janice!

    That was the one I sent in. When you really think about it, it makes sense. Given all that has occurred, it really is too complex to answer on a chat forum. I'd love to hear the answer though, at some point.

    Skyler (in Omaha!)

    Posted by: Skyler at August 16, 2006 10:40 PM

    Me too :) We'll see

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 10:40 PM

    OMG>>> Dr. R answered my question..Brookfield, IL He didn't brag about Bobby, but I think we can all handle that!!! Yipppeee....This is so awesome.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 10:42 PM

    Oh no!!!!!!!

    I refreshed and now it is hung

    Anyone else having that problem???

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 10:43 PM

    Sally in Key West, Thank you so much!

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 10:43 PM

    Salley,

    Who is in West Palm Beach?? I can't remember. Is that Linnie??

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:44 PM

    It is starting to take forever to refresh the page. I think they are getting hit hard.

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 10:44 PM

    The site is hanging up on me all over the place!

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 10:44 PM

    Yes, I'm having refresh problems too.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:44 PM

    Chris,

    me too.....count me in as a Cubby...so sorry he had to end that way.
    Love to Family and Posse
    SusanW.

    Posted by: SusanW at August 16, 2006 10:44 PM

    Linnie is in Delray Beach

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 10:44 PM

    He just answered my question (conroe, tx). But I already KNEW that alfalfa and grain didn't cause laminitis. But eating too much did. Oh well. LOL!! It's nice to know that he will still be ablet o enjoy it even though he has had laminitis.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 10:44 PM

    I hate my computer!!!! When I click on discussion or Dr. R.'s name all I get is "this page cannot be found!" Frustrating.

    Posted by: Jane at August 16, 2006 10:45 PM

    Remember you are only going to get down to the last question he has answered. It takes a few minutes for him to answer a question.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 10:46 PM

    Hi Skyler,

    I agree, and I hope he does answer it someday. I do believe that all our equine friends will benefit in the future from Barbaro's treatment.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:46 PM

    My refresh is taking forever too. I was looking at that website and it seems they archive their chats. We'll be able to go back and read over the entire chat. Thank goodness because I have leave here in 15 minutes and I don't want to miss any of it.

    Posted by: Linda in NV at August 16, 2006 10:46 PM

    I get a white screen

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 10:46 PM

    Love this:

    Philadelphia, PA
    I admire the way you handle the intense media coverage of Barbaro, but I was curious as to how you really feel about doing all the television and print interviews. Do you enjoy informing the public about the horse, or do you view the media as an intrusion upon your time?

    Dr. Richardson
    I view it as a duty to the public that cares so much about this horse. I personally care a lot about the equine industry and I want people to understand that there are people like the Jacksons who truly care about their horses.

    Posted by: Natalie in AZ at August 16, 2006 10:47 PM

    Jane

    Go to Alex's link, above, and scroll down...you will see the questions being asked and answered...

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 10:48 PM

    Natalie -

    Where, in Az., are you located ???

    Sherry - from Az

    p.s. GLAD this will be archived and can read, at another time, in full

    Posted by: sherry at August 16, 2006 10:50 PM

    I'm hung up here in So.California too. The site is having trouble refreshing. So many of us wanting info. I guess they weren't prepared.

    Posted by: Patti in Sherman Oaks, CA at August 16, 2006 10:51 PM

    Thanks Therese, I tried it, all I get is a white page. I guess I will read it tomorrow.

    Posted by: Jane at August 16, 2006 10:52 PM

    Hey out there...I mean HAY out there! We need to head over to light candles. We're down to 1,092.

    www.gratefulness.org

    THANKS!

    Posted by: Barb, AZ at August 16, 2006 10:52 PM

    Does anyone know how long this is going to last??

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:52 PM

    It's slowing down on me too, but I think it's because all of the sudden my signal strength is down to 11 Mbps. I have DSL and STILL gets down that far.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 10:53 PM

    I think it may be over - not sure

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 10:53 PM

    If, like me, your "refresh" starts taking FOREVER, I'm having good luck hitting the "back" arrow and then just clicking on to the chat link again. Hope that helps!

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at August 16, 2006 10:53 PM

    Jane, try going to the Bloodhorse home page where you'll see "Live Online Now" with Dr. R. You might have better luck that way.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 10:54 PM

    Another question and answer just came up.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:54 PM

    Maybe I should have stayed away
    from caffiene this afternoon...

    Posted by: Christian at August 16, 2006 10:55 PM

    I think I'm gonna have to wait til the live thing is over and then go back and read the Archive, lol. Major freezes.

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 10:56 PM

    Hi Susan W! while I am waiting to refresh I will say that i emailed the local country stations and sent them the article. Troy Gentry is a person of low character and low morals to have done that. His buddy is also going into protected bear refuges and bear baiting.I just want to thank who ever turned them in. These are FEDERAL charges and very serious. I hope they throw the book at them. Troy Gentry deliberately broke the law and doctored his trophy "killing" video. Perhaps his stardom will persuade the government to make an example of him. He is a scourge on all of the good down home values that country music was born from.
    I hope Cubby gets justice.

    Please also read a post on the bear refuge in Alaska and sign the petition linked on it. Thank you!

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 10:56 PM

    Here's the last few Q&As for those who are having trouble with hanging up:

    Marysville, WA
    With laminitis being caused by uneven weight distribution, have you considered having Barbaro spend time in the recovery sling in the pool to ease the weight off all four limbs?

    Dr. Richardson
    Answered briefly above. His comfort right now is good enough that we are not considering it. We planned to do this if he became uncomfortable.


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    Elmont, NY
    Why are you so passionate about horses. Was there a particular part in your life that made you very interested in working with them?

    Dr. Richardson
    A long story... Briefly, I decided to become a veterinarian after falling in love with horses as a rider/horseman.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 10:57 PM

    Keep it up Bobbie, you have a long way to go but you have COME A LONG WAY as well. All the positive energy people are sending has worked it healing powers up to now...keep it up big guy.
    I need to ask a favor of the group...PLEASE keep Lost In The Fog in your prayers as well. As you know a growth was found in his spleen. Please pray that whatever it is he can pull through his ordeal as well. This was pretty devastating news for us In Northern CA. since he captured our imaginations last season on route to an eclipse award.
    For the next vigil I will be meditating on both of the boys.

    Posted by: Linda in SF at August 16, 2006 10:58 PM

    It is nice to see that he does not need his sling anymore. That is quite a significant improvement!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 10:58 PM

    I'm having problems too...

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 10:58 PM

    Some more Q&A:

    Houston, TX
    What factors play a part in determining when you will say Bobby is OUT OF THE WOODS?!

    Dr. Richardson
    An acceptably strong structure to his LH foot and complete integrity, comfort and strength in his RH leg.


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    Pittsburgh, PA
    Dr. Richardson, can you please describe a day with Barbaro in regards to his schedule (including the grazing outings)? What occurs in regard to his treatments and care taking and at what times? I know many people would like to hear about his day.

    Dr. Richardson
    He gets ICU checks by the nurses four times daily (vital signs, checking how much he is eating, drinking, manure/urine production etc.) He is fed grain mixes four times daily. He receives free choice alfalfa and timothy mix hay. I change his LH foot bandage around 6 am and walk him about 30 minutes in the late afternoon. He is no longer being put in a sling. Previously, we were letting him out of the sling from about 7 pm until 9 am. The Jacksons and Mr. Matz visit at various times and Mrs. Jackson always brings some Lael Farm grass hand picked for him. He gets groomed and bathed at various times. Medications are given at various intervals. Previously he was on a number of constant intravenous infusions and epidural pain medication. His management is much simpler right now because he is doing so well.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 10:59 PM

    OOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
    Pittsburgh PA is me !!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: chris byers at August 16, 2006 11:00 PM

    Whooopie.....

    A day in the life of Barbaro was just addressed :) That was my question so I am glad to see that other people asked it as well so that we got a response

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 11:01 PM

    Bloomington, IL
    When you did the surgery on Barbaro, were the bones still "in place" or did you have to piece the bones back together? Was some of the bone removed? How much grafting was needed?

    Dr. Richardson
    No. They were markedly displaced. The long pastern bone was essentially exploded. Only a few free fragments of cortical (dense) bone were removed. These were pieces that were unattached to any shred of soft tissue. We used about 40 cc of cancellous bone graft taken from his right tuber coxae ("point of the hip").

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:01 PM

    Bloomington, IL
    When you did the surgery on Barbaro, were the bones still "in place" or did you have to piece the bones back together? Was some of the bone removed? How much grafting was needed?

    Dr. Richardson
    No. They were markedly displaced. The long pastern bone was essentially exploded. Only a few free fragments of cortical (dense) bone were removed. These were pieces that were unattached to any shred of soft tissue. We used about 40 cc of cancellous bone graft taken from his right tuber coxae ("point of the hip").

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:02 PM

    Right on Chris & TLC! Doesn't it feel great when he answers your questions?

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:02 PM

    Chris!!!

    Great!!!!

    Please know that I, too, am praying intently for Lost in the Fog.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 11:03 PM

    Is anyone still having hang up problems? Do you want me to keep posting the Q&As?

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:03 PM

    Laura...that was a great question...loved to hear what that kid does all day long :)

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:03 PM

    Barbaro is amazing!!!

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 11:04 PM

    Mount Laurel, NJ
    Given a perfect world and an optimum recovery for Barbaro, what is the best we can expect for him?

    Dr. Richardson
    I still believe there is a chance to save him to be a comfortable breeding stallion, capable of naturally covering mares.


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    Pittsburgh, PA
    Why can't some sort of weight sensing device be put on a horse's hoof so a vet would know if there is unequal weight bearing following surgery?

    Dr. Richardson
    There is always unequal weight bearing. His bone was broken. We don't expect him to have equal weight bearing. It is a matter of degree and, to some extent, luck whether or not they founder. Some horses can stand on three legs for months without developing laminitis. Others founder within days.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:05 PM

    Dear Sally,

    I am so very sorry you had this heart-wrenching experience with your horse. Anyone who has spent any time with horses has probably had an experience that we are hurt from and will never get over. (I, myself, could tell you some stories that would make your toes curl..)

    You must know that each situation is different: the horse, injury, condition, care, diagnosis, etc. plus many other factors have to be included in each individual case. Barbaro has defied all odds thus far. He has the very BEST of care, owners who apparently know no limit to the monetary care that they can provide, a jockey who was totally instrumental in the very beginning of Barbaro's survival, and so on.

    I am not saying that you are not a caring, devoted horse owner. I am just saying that each situation is different for so many reasons. I don't talk about this much, but I was involved in a horse breaking his leg and, as a result, almost immediately, was put down. There is no way I would judge you, or Michael Matz or anyone else in a similar situation. I can't speak for anyone else, but I love animals and that experience devastated me.

    But Barbaro's case is different. Anything can still happen to our boy, but we prefer to hold great hope, carry enormous faith and be thankful for all the little miracles in Barbaro's recovery. I know he is not grazing to give me or anyone else on this board any hope, he is out grazing because that is the VERY BEST THING for him at this time. There is not a soul at NBC who would jeopardize all that has been done, all the money, all the time, all the expertise, all the tears---NOTHING--to simply see the horse pulling up grass by the roots and witness the wind blowing through his mane a bit...

    Sally, we are kindred spirits---all of us---and you need not be afraid to hope. Barbaro has ALREADY defied many of the odds against him. The rest of what he does is icing on the cake.

    Just enjoy the miracle with us, Sweetie.

    Love to all,
    Cindy


    I cannnot change your opinion but I speak from facts-my horse develoed founder in june-november she was put out to graze with reconstructed hoof all was well until they did that by thanks giving she was gone-I cant do anything but try to tell you but It is not heard-I tried-Dont understand why you cant see the picture here-dr r said he could develop complications last time that mean laminitus-I am sick over thsi and I lost a horse I do know what I said ois true-but like I said you want to not educate yourself about it-If barbaro founders again-I hope you will remember-I am concerned for his life-I am through trying to warn you all-for Barbaro please read about this condition you dont have to beleive me-I thought you all cared about barbaro-if you did you would educated yourself and not trust blindly-read about the pain involved- look up-(hoof founder-laminitus)

    Posted by: sally from florida at August 16, 2006 07:52 PM

    Posted by: SWF Cindy at August 16, 2006 11:06 PM

    Sandie it seems better now. Thanks for posting some of the questions!

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 11:07 PM

    Hi Linda
    I am in San Francisco as well and I saw Foggy run twice last year. He is a beautiful runner with lots of speed and stamina. I will join you as well in meditating/praying for the recovery of both of these animals that have given me lots of pleasure watching. I hope that the rest of you guys on the list will do the same,keep both Bobbie and Foggy in your prayers.
    Bob

    Posted by: Bob at August 16, 2006 11:07 PM

    Mount Laurel, NJ
    Given a perfect world and an optimum recovery for Barbaro, what is the best we can expect for him?

    Dr. Richardson
    I still believe there is a chance to save him to be a comfortable breeding stallion, capable of naturally covering mares.


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    Pittsburgh, PA
    Why can't some sort of weight sensing device be put on a horse's hoof so a vet would know if there is unequal weight bearing following surgery?

    Dr. Richardson
    There is always unequal weight bearing. His bone was broken. We don't expect him to have equal weight bearing. It is a matter of degree and, to some extent, luck whether or not they founder. Some horses can stand on three legs for months without developing laminitis. Others founder within days.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:07 PM

    No problem Marie. Just wanted to make sure everyone could see the Q&As. Didn't want anyone to feel left out!

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:08 PM

    Can you guys keep plugging in the questions and answers to us? Please....I can't get in there at all!

    Posted by: Barb, AZ at August 16, 2006 11:08 PM

    Toledo, OH
    Do you have an opinion on the merits of polytrack or other artificial surfaces in reducing injury to racehorses?

    Dr. Richardson
    This is not my area of expertise but the evidence suggests that the new surfaces will help.


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    Davie, FL
    I believe --as does everyone else in America-- that you are doing a magnificent job with Barbaro. Two questions: Was that one of the worst cases of laminitis you've seen when you said his chances for survival were "poor" a month or so back? And, is this horse just a physical specimen to the degree of athletes like Lebron James or Bo Jackson? With a horse being that athletic and strong, do they have a better chance to survive something like this than other horses do?

    Dr. Richardson
    See above. His age and athleticism are definitely big plusses for him. (I love the analogy to Lebron!)

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:09 PM

    Mary L, Thank you for your post. Today's the first day I've been back since last week. I'm going to try to work the Forum in to my schedule; so far, it's all I can do to keep up with this board, which is still so interesting and topical.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 11:10 PM

    Barb

    I am trying to keep up..I was going to see if anyone minds me doing this, if it's not too distracting i will keep copying and pasting...no problem...this is all so facinating, i dont want anyone to miss any of it.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:10 PM

    AHHHHHHHHH! I couldn't get there at all....
    THanks to all who are posting the Q/A for us..

    Nancy VB

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at August 16, 2006 11:11 PM

    Midlothian, TX
    Certainly, everyone has told you how much your work is appreciated. I am in awe of you and your staff. You are truly dedicated to our beloved race horses. My question is how do you decide when to sleep or take a break!? You must be exhausted after these months of Barbaro's care and the stress of the press.

    Dr. Richardson
    I am just one of MANY people taking care of Barbaro. It is a team effort with nurses, residents, interns, students and other staff.


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    Florence, Texas
    Does hoof resection prevent rotation of the coffin bone in severe laminitis?

    Dr. Richardson
    Hoof resection doesn't "prevent" rotation of the coffin bone. Rotation is defined by the coffin bone's relationship to the hoof and by the relationship of the coffin bone to the middle phalanx (short pastern bone). When the hoof wall is gone, the former is irrelevant. The major thing that was done to treat the "rotation" of P3 was to cut the deep digital flexor tendon. That helps maintain the correct alignment of his phalanges (bones below the fetlock.)


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    Lewisville, NC
    Do you or the staff at NBC plan to write a book about the experience of saving Barbaro? As a horsewoman for 35 years, I would love to read the story!

    Dr. Richardson
    In my spare time!!!


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    Poland, Ohio
    If Barbaro heals and continues to mend, will he ever be able to gallop or amble in the pasture, or will he be restricted to walking only?

    Dr. Richardson
    IF he fully recovers as defined above, he will be able to do more than walk.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:11 PM

    ######

    Therese, Thanks!

    Posted by: Barb, AZ at August 16, 2006 11:12 PM

    Please keep copying and pasting!
    Thank you so much...

    Posted by: Christian at August 16, 2006 11:12 PM

    Thank you Dr Richardson for being so candid, & taking the time to answer some of our questions. We know so much more concerning Barbaro's problems/treatments & what his day is like & what time frame we are all looking at, for his stay at NBC,(Maybe between Thanksgiving & Christmas), Plus another possible 8 to 11 months for full hoof growth...One Champion taking care of another Champion..All the best from Clearwater, Florida...

    Posted by: Charles & Tommy at August 16, 2006 11:13 PM

    There seems to be a lull in the chat now...i will keep checking...don't worry...i will be right back...hold on folks.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:14 PM

    Zurich, Switzerland
    Did the left hind shoe you mention in the press release dated May 20th aggravate the laminitis in any way or did it slow its development? Would you recommend using these shoes in future? Thanks for all the extensive information.

    Dr. Richardson
    I don't know that it had an effect one way or the other.


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    Weston, CT
    Thanks for talking to us. What has been your favorite part of taking care of Barbaro? Is he a very affectionate charge?

    Dr. Richardson
    My favorite part initially was the challenge of the procedure and the aftercare. My favorite part now is simply trying to save his life. He is a very personable young colt, truly charismatic.


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    Santa Fe, NM
    When you do the daily bandage change on Barbaro leg with the severe laminitis, does he accept it freely or is it necessary to sedate him?

    Dr. Richardson
    One of the most pleasant surprises over the last several weeks is his adaptation. He allows us to work on him while he is lying down. He allows us to simply tie him to the wall with a lead rope while we work on him (Michael Matz's excellent horsemanship at work here!). We were sedating him when he was receiving local antibiotic infusions in his RH leg but those have been discontinued for weeks. He has not been sedated for anything recently.


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    Seattle, Washington

    What are you using to treat the hoof for laminitis?

    Dr. Richardson
    I have been reluctant to and will not say what brand names we are using, but it is a very simple treatment. He basically gets his foot cleaned daily and a very generic antibiotic, the only thing we are putting on it is a silver sulfur diozine that is non-irritating. We put a padded bandage on his foot and put the foot in a boot which has several pieces of foam in the bottom.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:15 PM

    Did everyone see Dr. Dean's comment about the track surfaces??

    With an endorsement like that.......

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 11:17 PM

    Bensalem, PA

    How far along is the pastern bone fusion in the right rear leg? How long will it be before the bone is fused completely?

    Dr. Richardson
    It looked excellent during the last cast change. We only assess it carefully when we have the cast is off because the x-ray doesn’t go clearly through the cast. It looked like it was really progressing well. We did that procedure in early July and the soonest I would expect it to be solid enough to take out of the cast would be early September. But it could be later. It is all depending upon what it looks like.


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    San Marino, CA

    I would like to know what the normal mortality/survival rate is for a case of laminitis like Barbaro's.

    Dr. Richardson
    I don’t know the answer to that because a lot of people just don’t treat this severe of a case that often. Treating the laminitis is a nursing skill. Plus people shouldn’t lose track of the fact that Barbaro has two problems, and I still have to focus on the injury to his right rear.


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    Lake Forest, Ca.

    How many staff attend to Barbaro on a daily basis?

    Dr. Richardson
    On a 24-hour basis there are probably at least six nurses that go through the IC unit. Among professional staff, there would one resident and myself. At the moment, we don’t have any students on the case because they are on other cases. The students learn more on other cases—surgical cases-- than with him because he is more of nursing challenge.


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    Richmond, VA

    Since your dad was an MD, did you ever feel any pressure to go to medical school instead of getting your DVM?

    Dr. Richardson
    None whatsoever. When I went to college I wasn’t going to be a medical “anything.” The only reason I became a vet is because I was hooked on horses. Later I found out I had a thing for medicine and surgery.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:17 PM

    thank you, alex for posting the link to the whole transcript.

    Posted by: Barbara Kerr at August 16, 2006 11:18 PM

    Poplar Grove, IL

    Were you watching the Preakness when Barbaro's accident occurred and what were your thoughts?

    Dr. Richardson
    Yes, I was watching it and I felt very sick to my stomach when is saw it. I knew immediately it was very, very severe injury. I pretty much thought exclusively in medical terms, about the nature of the fracture, whether the skin was broken and considering where he was I figured right away he would come to me.


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    Versailles, KY

    Why did you decide to take on Barbaro's case with its high profile when other veterinarians have said they probably wouldn't have touched it?

    Dr. Richardson
    That’s what I do. This is why I get up in the morning. This is the type of cases have worked my whole career to get better at. I certainly can’t imagine not wanting to try this. I am sure some would not have wanted it because it is so high profile. I certainly don’t think I am not the only person who could have helped him.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:19 PM

    Bless this man's heart :)

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at August 16, 2006 11:20 PM

    Okay everyone, this is the goal and what we're praying for:

    "An acceptably strong structure to his LH foot and complete integrity, comfort and strength in his RH leg."

    That means: "out of the woods.."

    Thank you, Dr. R. The interview is very informative, open and candid.

    (He's changing the left bandage as I'm rolling out of bed.)

    Posted by: Christine at August 16, 2006 11:20 PM

    Lexington, KY

    Has a hyperbaric chamber or hyperbaric oxygen been used in the treatment of Barbaro? If not, do you think it would have helped? I have read that they help speed the healing process.

    Dr. Richardson

    No. It has been discussed but at no point did we think it was really necessary. There is mixed science on use of hyperbaric therapy for normal tissue. There are indications where it has a benefit, but there is not enough science to support its use for normal tissue healing.


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    Madison, MS
    Dr. Richardson, has the experience of having Barbaro as a patient changed your life in any way, and, if so, how? Thank you for your wonderful, skillful, compassionate care for Barbaro.

    Dr. Richardson
    Certainly, right now, it’s very odd to go to the racetrack at Saratoga and have people ask for your autograph. That just does not happen to vets. But really no it has not changed my life. I am still busy here in the hospital with other cases and my regular clients. It’s jus that Barbaro takes up more time. I have always been a pretty busy surgeon. I have not played as much golf lately.


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    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:22 PM

    Therese, you're doing a terrific job! Thank you and keep it up!

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at August 16, 2006 11:24 PM

    Christine I was thinking the same thing!

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 11:25 PM

    I am happy to do this...no thanx is necessary...I just don't want anyone to miss out.

    Does anyone know how long this will go? I have to go soon, my husband wants some dinner...poor Johnny. I think he feels neglected where Barbaro is concerned.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:26 PM

    Wheaton, IL

    If you had to choose one factor that has allowed Barbaro to do as well as he has since the laminitis, what would it be?

    Dr. Richardson
    It’s hard to pick one thing because there are so many factors. The first thing is that our timing on the procedure that was done with the hoof section was good. If I had to pick one I would say our ability to manage his pain early on was helpful. I think our pain management techniques in the early stages of laminitis were very successful.


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    Lawrenceville, New Jersey

    We've read many articles that state how much our wonderful Barbaro has touched you. Can you please elaborate how you feel about Barbaro and specifically, what makes this horse so special to you.

    Dr. Richardson
    The only reason I became a vet was because I fell in love with horses, and I became very involved working with horses. If you do that, you get to point where you love working on horses. I can’t deny the fact he is a very smart and particularly charismatic horse. He is remarkably quick to pick up when you’re trying to help him. Those are the sorts of things that make you like the horse a lot. You are also talking about being in the presence of greatness, and I think he truly was a great horse who did not have a chance to show it. All those things combined, it is hard not to be emotionally involved with it. I also have a long relationship with and like for the Jacksons and Matzes.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:27 PM

    Oh y'all are just going to LOVE this one!

    Lawrenceville, New Jersey

    We've read many articles that state how much our wonderful Barbaro has touched you. Can you please elaborate how you feel about Barbaro and specifically, what makes this horse so special to you.

    Dr. Richardson
    The only reason I became a vet was because I fell in love with horses, and I became very involved working with horses. If you do that, you get to point where you love working on horses. I can’t deny the fact he is a very smart and particularly charismatic horse. He is remarkably quick to pick up when you’re trying to help him. Those are the sorts of things that make you like the horse a lot. You are also talking about being in the presence of greatness, and I think he truly was a great horse who did not have a chance to show it. All those things combined, it is hard not to be emotionally involved with it. I also have a long relationship with and like for the Jacksons and Matzes.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:27 PM

    "in the presence of greatness"

    Wow - that's Bobby alright!

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 11:28 PM

    Ok, the answer where Dr. Dean refers to being in the "presence of greatness" made me cry.

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 11:30 PM

    Linda H....I just love that, too....

    "in the presence of greatness"

    Awesome

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:30 PM

    "In the precense of greatness".

    That statement stands out above all others.

    Posted by: Susan A at August 16, 2006 11:30 PM

    Tiruppur, India

    I belong to a family trust set up to start a veterinary hospital. Apart from technical excellence, what are the core values and principles that we should develop and sustain in our staff?

    Dr. Richardson
    The most important thing for any professional staff of a hospital is a commitment to excellence, no matter what their position is from top to bottom.


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    Los Angeles, CA
    Dr. Richardson, thanks so much for your outstanding work on Barbaro. We're all praying for the recovery to continue to go well. What percentage of euthanized racehorses would have a shot at survival if their owners were as committed to their horses' well-being as the Jacksons are with Barbaro? Is there anything you'd like to see racing do about it?

    Dr. Richardson
    It is important for people to understand it is quite expensive. If money were no object and there was a commitment by the owners, there are a fair number of euthanized horses who could be saved. Certainly many horses are put down because the expense of saving them is more than their value and that is certainly an understandable decision on the part of many people. It is also important to keep in mind that Barbaro has not been saved yet. It is not like anyone can say it has been proven. I certainly can’t emphasize that enough, and unfortunately it is the truth. Until he is doing what a normal horse can do I am not going to consider it a success.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:30 PM

    Okay Dr. R is getting emails from India!

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 11:31 PM

    I am more in love with him then ever - what a wonderful man Dr Dean is. He is as amazing as Bobby!!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 11:32 PM

    ..."Certainly many horses are put down because the expense of saving them is more than their value and that is certainly an understandable decision on the part of many people."

    I understand what Dr. R is saying here, but I have to ask, how does one put a number on the value of such a beautiful creature. They're all priceless.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:33 PM

    "in the presence of greatness"

    This comes from someone who knows...

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 11:33 PM

    When did Sally go to India...

    Just kidding!!!

    Has anyone heard from Pamela? Haven't seen her around lately. I haven't been around much either, but she usually is ever present...
    hmmmm

    oops, gotta go check for more questions...
    brb

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:34 PM

    From the info Dr Dean has supplied us with it is obvious to me that some owners just don't care.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 11:34 PM

    I wonder if Barbaro knows he's in the "presence of greatness" as well?? The two of them make a great pair!

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at August 16, 2006 11:35 PM

    Pamela is probaly under the weather. She will join us when she is feeling better.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 11:35 PM

    Nothing yet....but seriously, I may have to go...can anyone else out there take over the copying and pasting? I hate to leave ya'll stranded but my husband needs some alfalfa, i mean, chicken....lol

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:35 PM

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    Sally, unfortunately to some, it is just a business. Sad.

    Posted by: Barb, AZ at August 16, 2006 11:35 PM

    #############
    Pam was in the chat room the other night but I had to leave early. Maybe you can catch her there later!

    Nancy in VB

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at August 16, 2006 11:35 PM

    what do you mean, sally, some owners just don't care?

    Posted by: Barbara Kerr at August 16, 2006 11:35 PM

    Linda - I just mailed a card to Dr Dean saying that he and Bobby were a great team!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 11:36 PM

    Therese I'll be happy to copy and paste for everyone.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:37 PM

    The q/a hasn't changed in awhile. Wonder if it's over

    it's been 1-1/2 hrs

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 11:37 PM

    ##################

    Thanks Therese, I have to go feed my family, too and it's late!

    Nancy VB

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at August 16, 2006 11:37 PM

    why are we re posting the Dr D's chat on here?? confusing! would rather see it all together on their site than like this PLEASE

    Posted by: marie at August 16, 2006 11:37 PM

    It's not that some owners "just don't care." Not every owner has the money to be able to put the horse thru all the time and surgery. In fact, if my cat wound up with cancer right now, and I had to take her to Rice U. or Texas A&M for treatment, I could not do that. I could not afford to give my cat that kind of treatment. I would have to have her put to sleep. That does not make me an uncaring person.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 11:37 PM

    Sally, great minds think alike, eh?

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at August 16, 2006 11:37 PM

    Sally

    Is Pamela alright?

    Dr. R seems to think it is understandable to have to euthenize an animal in certain circumstances...let's not judge too harshly...we don't know all the variables when some owner has to, unfortunately, make that most difficult decision to euthenize his/her animal. It has to be a very hard thing to do.

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:38 PM

    Hey, Bobby. We just heard from your pal Dr. R. He spoke of you very highly and gave some good prognosis for your continued healing. Said he was in the presence of greatness. Slow and steady it is, Beautiful. You can do it.

    I bid you good night for now, Special One, but I'll be back tomorrow to look in on you. Sleep tight.

    Hugs and Scratches. Jill H.

    Posted by: Jill H. at August 16, 2006 11:38 PM

    Marie some of the people here cannot get to the chat page for some reason. That is why it is being copied on here.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 11:38 PM

    Marie:

    Some people are having trouble getting in

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 11:39 PM

    SOrry Marie, some of us were having a tough time getting in. I eventually did though others were unable to. I do hope they will have it all somewhere we can read through it later..

    Nancy VB

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at August 16, 2006 11:39 PM

    OUR FAVORITE DOC - what a gentleman & a class act! When commenting on how adaptable Barbaro is to various treatment situations, he said "Michael Matz's excellent horsemanship at work here!"

    This man is not only committed to excellence in himself, but also acknowledges when he sees it in others!

    Can we love him any more than we already did? YES!!!

    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 16, 2006 11:39 PM

    I've tried several times to refresh that page..clicked on Dr R's name...nada...usual this page etc. so I guess I'll have to wait til I read the transcript to see if my question was asked and answered.

    Okedoke Barbaro, sweetie..time to call it a day. Rest easily, dream sweet dreams. Tomorrow's another step on that long road to recovery. We're walking it with you all the way.

    You are so loved babycakes! MWAH!

    Posted by: Toby at August 16, 2006 11:39 PM

    MARIE from ATLANTA wrote:

    Christine I was thinking the same thing!


    We're spending so much time together wishing for the same goal that we're starting to think alike..
    :-)

    "...in the presence of greatness..."

    Posted by: Christine at August 16, 2006 11:39 PM

    Marie, we were posting the Q&As for those who were experiencing hanging up problems and wanted to see the Q&As as they were occurring, so all could feel as though they are a part of it.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:40 PM

    OK

    No further questions are coming. Could be over. And thanx, Sandie, for taking over. It's been facinating folks....Barbaro is my hero...so is Dr. Dean. What a pair.

    Have a great nite, ya'll. I feel grateful and lucky to have you all here.

    And to the kid in the sling...not in the sling anymore, are you? Good going, Bobby. You are the best damn horse around...no kidding.
    Love ya all.
    Therese

    Posted by: Therese at August 16, 2006 11:40 PM

    Great interview!

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 11:41 PM

    Barbara - I mean that SOME owners don't care and don't want to spend the money to let there horses live. I'm not a horsie person so I have no idea what I'm talking about. As Dr Dean said it is expensive to do what he is doing for Barbaro - so I'm just saying that some owners may not want to spend the money to save their horses. OR some owners don't have the money - its really sad if that is the case.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 11:41 PM

    I think it's over folks. The home page no longer says "Live Online with Dr. R" but has a link to read the transcript.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:42 PM

    So, where is the link to the transcript? Does anybody have it? Thanks.

    Posted by: Barb, AZ at August 16, 2006 11:42 PM

    Night Therese!!

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 11:42 PM

    I have a horse that I love more than life itself but I could not in my wildest dreams afford the type of care Bobby is getting. It would kill me to make the decision but I could never come up with money.

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 11:43 PM

    Barb AZ, the link is on the Bloodhorse home page.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:43 PM

    Here's the link to the transcript:

    http://www.bloodhorse.com/talkinhorses/DR081608.asp

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:44 PM

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    marie atl,
    I know what you mean. I had a horse hospitalized for a week at $1,000/day. I've been paying for it for two years!

    Posted by: Barb, AZ at August 16, 2006 11:45 PM

    Sally - it's the same way with house pets. My vet has adopted several pets that people could not afford to "cure" and asked for them to be put down.

    I bet Cheryl in Lakewood could answer that better as her husband is a vet

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 11:45 PM

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    Sandie, thanks.

    Posted by: Barb, AZ at August 16, 2006 11:46 PM

    I'm sorry if I upset anyone. The reason for my comments is that these are TB's and alot of the owners have the money. I do't want anyone to be upset with me - I just have this thought in my mind that all TB owners have the money. I guess I was mistaken. I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 11:47 PM

    I am trying to find a tee shirt
    Smarty has our heart
    Alex has our hope
    Barbaro has our prayers
    can anyone help me?

    Posted by: FOB at August 16, 2006 11:48 PM

    ######

    I know Barb. I have a credit card put aside for colic surgery because she is a chronic colicer.

    By the way I just figured out what the ##### meant. I'm slow sometimes:)

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 11:49 PM

    Are there any rescue organizations set up exclusively for horses/animals who suffer from injuries or illness who could be saved but their owners' can't afford the medical expense? If there isn't, wouldn't that be a great thing? You can't afford the treatment required to save your animal, but instead of having to make the emotionally gut-wrenching decision of having them euthanized, you give them to this type of organization so that the animals' lives are spared.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:49 PM

    Sally, dear. First, let me tell you that people don't get into the racing game unless they have some amount of disposable income. It's expensive even if you are part of a consortium, much less and individual owner. EVERY owner does all they can when their horses are injured. Period.

    You are not racehorse industry savvy, you will learn a little on this site, and this will be a wonderful, life enriching experience for you. But PLEASE do not post what you don't know about. Barbaro is also setting a textbook precedent for future large animal vets -- his recovery, or any other horse that showed this will to live, would be funded due to the uniqueness of it's nature I believe if the owner couldn't afford it. That's why there is philanthropy.

    I don't want to sound harsh, but just want to shed some industry insight. It's a great week for all of us. We have all been so fortunate to be able to share this education from Dr. Dean, he knows how hard we're rooting for Barbaro, and I'm so proud of all of you who got your wonderful questions answered. Thank you again, Alex and Tim, for making this all possible.

    Posted by: Barbara Kerr at August 16, 2006 11:50 PM

    Hey Rachel at Kennett Florist

    With that money for his birthday get some American Express or Visa gift cards so he can buy some rounds of golf on us. he needs to play more golf

    Posted by: Melissa S. at August 16, 2006 11:50 PM

    o.m.g....he's going to ask for a townhouse on beverly glen drive next. gotta love that boy!

    Posted by: Barbara Kerr at August 16, 2006 11:51 PM

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    marie, I didn't know for a long time what it meant! On the horses.....what we won't do for them!

    Posted by: Barb, AZ at August 16, 2006 11:51 PM

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    No worries Sally!
    My mare thinks I'm rich so don't tell :)

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 11:52 PM

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    Barb, AZ: You're very welcome! : )

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:52 PM

    Update 463:

    LOLOLOL..Goodness gracious....Can we say, "Your Majesty" ? LOLOLOL

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 11:53 PM

    Sally:

    You would fit in out here with our animal shelter. These people EXPECT you to forfeit your home for your pet's needs. To me, they are extremeists.

    I believe in reasonable care. You don't allow a pet to linger in pain needlessly. You do the right thing. But if one can't afford the cost then sometimes its better to put the animal down.

    Many people I know suffer through anxiety over making the decision. They aren't cold or ruthless. The fact that their asking tells me this. If they just coldly put their pet down without a backwards glance or thought then I'd think something's wrong.

    I think the Jackson's have gone above and beyond with this. I know that it isn't about stud fees. It's about love. And the Jackson's are extremely lucky that they can afford Barbaro's care. I know I couldn't. I suppose that makes me terrible person in your book. So be it.

    MM

    Margaret

    Posted by: Margaret at August 16, 2006 11:53 PM

    It is possible that some of the owners DO have the money to spend as much at the Jacksons are. the problem is do they use the money for one horse and have to get out of horse racing because they have no money for anything else? Or do they go ahead and euthanize the horse and still have money to take care of what they have left? Do they go bankrupt? There are a LOT of decisions that go into deciding how much money you can spend. It's not just, "Oh this horse got hurt and I don't care about it anymore because s/he doesn't make enough money and/or doesn't win very many races." Horse racing will ALWAYS have to be at least half about business because of the massive amounts of money involved. I guess when you get into horse racing as an owner, the question is, "Ok, I have enough money to buy a horse and take care of it, but what if it breaks down and needs $50,000 of surgery? Well I better not buy a horse because it may get hurt." Or do you buy the horse and hope it does not get hurt? It's a hard question.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 16, 2006 11:54 PM

    Way to go Bobby! Having your own masseuse is awesome. Thanks, again, Dr. Kathy.

    Posted by: Jill at August 16, 2006 11:54 PM

    Bobby has a masseuse!!

    Nothing is too good for our boy!!

    I in fact will see the masseuse this Sat before vigil.

    I actually met a woman who studied at the Boulder School of massage and she was going on to study animal massage as that was her interest.
    What a great career

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 16, 2006 11:55 PM

    FOB,
    Send an email to goldgifts2000@yahoo.com thats where you will fing the Smarty Alex Barbaro t-shirt. Have fun.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at August 16, 2006 11:55 PM

    Well, it sounds like Bobby is doing quite well. His "masseuse was arriving!" Is this New Bolton Spa?!? I'm so happy for him.

    I pray that Fog in the Night well be healed. Has anyone created a group for him on greatfulness.org?

    Posted by: Susan in TX at August 16, 2006 11:55 PM

    Alex your last post just made me laugh!

    I think someone was wondering if Bobby knows he is great. I think we just got our answer.

    Still laughing!

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 16, 2006 11:57 PM

    "...Barbaro, who was laid down, in an upright position, eating fresh picked grass from a bowl! As she was leaving his masseuse was arriving, who prefers to massage him laying down as he is then less active."

    Where were the attendents with fans...and the girls with the grapes I wonder?

    Only the best for our Barbaro.

    Where there is great love
    there are always miracles.

    Night all-
    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at August 16, 2006 11:57 PM

    NO Margaret - I didn't mean that - I really don't want to fight with anyone - I just said something before I thought about it. I didn't mean to offent any one. I was raised in horseacing with my grandfather and my mother who were horseracing fanactics. I could tell you stories but its not relevant here. I learned from them that TB owners were loaded. I have now - through this website - found that this is not true.

    I'm asking again for your forgivness!!! I obviously don't know - but I am learning. Shelly A is an example - I should have shut my mouth.

    I'm sorry - will you all forgive me for my ignorance?????

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 16, 2006 11:58 PM

    I'm serious..Alex's post regarding Bobby lying down, eating fresh picked grass from bowl, and waiting for masseuse is killing me.

    Posted by: Sarah at August 16, 2006 11:59 PM

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    Sally, I think we are all learning!

    Posted by: Barb, AZ at August 17, 2006 12:00 AM

    Thanks, Alex...and on that happy note I'll say goodnight to everyone and go light some candles.

    Night night, Bobby...enjoy your supper and your massage, and then have a nice sleep.
    I'll check on you in the morning.
    I love you, sweetie XOXOX

    Posted by: Jo Edwards at August 17, 2006 12:01 AM

    Renee
    thanks
    It did not work I could not get on that sight, do you have an email I can talk to you directly
    thanks

    Posted by: FOB at August 17, 2006 12:02 AM

    ######FYI, the country singer made the first item on the news here in western KY...it will spread all over...never bought his stuff either, but will boycott anything and everything of his....Congrats to those asking great questions...indeed, they are both phenomenal...animal and man alike...geez...Dr. R is so humble....right up my alley too...blessing to our boy, Bobby...

    Posted by: learntoletitgo, KY at August 17, 2006 12:02 AM

    LOL Everyone forgive Sally please! I forgive you :O)
    I think it is a common misconception that all owners have lots of money. You are not alone.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 17, 2006 12:02 AM

    re COST OF BARBARO'S MEDICAL CARE...saw an interesting comment from Dr. R. (long ago)...when he was asked about the cost, he said it wasn't nearly as expensive as if it were a human undergoing the same procedures/treatments! So how come our care doesn't seem to have the same quality of love, concern, & determination????

    ALSO RE COST....remember that Mr. Jackson said long ago that if the best result was that Barbaro came back to their farm and spend the rest of his days grazing there (no stud income), then they would be perfectly happy with that!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 17, 2006 12:02 AM

    Okay I have to go. I'm still at work. Good news is everyone is gone so I didn't have to sneak!

    Have a great night everyone!

    Posted by: marie from atl at August 17, 2006 12:03 AM

    learntoletitgo, What was it about the country singer? I heard about it but have no idea who he really is.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 17, 2006 12:03 AM

    UPDATE 463...do you suppose it's a solid gold bowl?? What a guy!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 17, 2006 12:04 AM

    Re: Cubby justice

    Hello Chris Byers and anyone who is interested in the Cubby case,

    Try this address for a bit more or different information on Gentry and his co-defendant. Not much new but it gives a little (very little) bit more info. This is from the St. Paul Pioneer Press in MN.

    http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/entertainment/15282711.htm

    Hope it works. Still lookin' for more!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 17, 2006 12:05 AM

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    Are we supposed to do the # signs when it's something silly? Well, this is silly. I see some of you referring to the Doc and Bobby as a good pair together...so maybe they should do a sitcom; it could be a takeoff on the old series (and movie) "The Odd Couple"! I can hear that goofy little theme music right now...doo doo doo doo doo doooo, doo doo doo, doo doo doo, doooo...

    But which one is Felix...and which one is Oscar? (I get them mixed up.)

    Posted by: Loretta at August 17, 2006 12:06 AM

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    CAPTAIN CARROT - please email me
    mllebutterfly@sbcglobal.net

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 17, 2006 12:10 AM

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    Lynda Pellititeri...check Laurie H's post above at 12:05...she answered your question

    Posted by: learntoletitgo, KY at August 17, 2006 12:10 AM

    LOL, I love u guys.

    Posted by: Sarah at August 17, 2006 12:11 AM

    Dear Barbaro,

    We love you so much. Enjoy that massage and keep munching on that fresh grass. It's not the same as ripping it out of the ground but enjoy it just the same; your time will come again tomorrow, our boy.

    Great answers from Dr. R!! He is truly special and tells it like it is. So glad he is part of Barbaro's team. I couldn't wait for the next question just to hear his response. Quite a guy, just like Bobby!

    Thank you Dr. Anderson and of course, Alex, for the update!

    Daphne and Pee

    Posted by: Daphne at August 17, 2006 12:13 AM

    I just loved that last update!! Good vision! Barbaro eating fresh cut grass and his massage lady on the way in..


    I could use that!! (massage, not grass)

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at August 17, 2006 12:14 AM

    justletitgo and Laurie,

    Oh my gosh! What an idiot!!!! Sounds like a complete bum for sure!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at August 17, 2006 12:16 AM

    You gotta love the visual of Bobby lying down, eating his grass from a bowl, awaiting his masseuse. Oh my goodness, the Jacksons are going to have one HIGH MAINTENANCE horse on their hands when he gets home!!

    On a more somber note, prayers please everyone, for Lost in the Fog and his connections.

    Posted by: Victoria at August 17, 2006 12:19 AM

    Good night Bobby. I love you.

    Good night Anela. I love you.

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at August 17, 2006 12:26 AM

    "An acceptably strong structure to his LH foot and complete integrity, comfort and strength in his RH leg."

    When Dr. R. sees the above, he will declare Bobby to be "out of the woods"!

    We can work prayerfully/spiritually/positively, to see that too! And it doesn't have to take 9-12 months!

    The man with the "withered hand" in the Bible was healed instantaneously by Jesus! Let's affirm the same for Bobby's condition.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 17, 2006 12:29 AM

    Good night your majesty. Get a comfortable night's rest. (Should be no problem after your massage!) Pleasant dreams sweet boy. You're in my thoughts and prayers, as always.

    Big hugs, kisses and nuzzlies to you Bobby!

    There will be miracles...
    when you believe!

    Posted by: Sandie at August 17, 2006 12:33 AM

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    Sandie,
    Thank you. I was eager to read it!

    Posted by: Sam I Am at August 17, 2006 12:35 AM

    Hello Lynda P.,

    Chris Byers mentioned the Cubby case earlier today. This happened here in Minnesota and looking into some articles, Gentry was in court Tuesday in Duluth, MN.

    Leslie in MN and I will try to follow this case and update the board when we hear more. It is a federal case. So, hopefully it will be prosecuted severely.

    Chris Byers also mentioned a petition earlier today about protecting bears. I need to go back and read her entry. She has also included the web address for that petition in her post.

    Hopefully, this story doesn't disappear from the news...

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 17, 2006 12:40 AM

    Thanks, Alex for posting the updated article from The Daily Racing Form on Lost in the Fog. (I always have difficulty accessing their site). I'm praying that the cancer is contained to the spleen and he survives the surgery. So sad......such a very neat horse. I've always really, really liked him and followed his career.

    Posted by: jennifer at August 17, 2006 12:40 AM

    Good night Barbaro and Barbaromaniacs ,

    See you all in the morning, will be waiting for another ACN Bobby Jackson !!

    God bless you , and I pray for you and for Lost In the Fog. I also pray for the others, like Mike Rea, and sluggo, walter, etc.
    I pray for Mary L. and all of our people, and their animals on this site. love to all.


    Posted by: Bobbie B. at August 17, 2006 12:43 AM

    LORETTA wrote: We can work prayerfully/ spiritually/positively, to see that too! And it doesn't have to take 9-12 months!>>

    You go, girl. My thought exactly.

    >>The man with the "withered hand" in the Bible was healed instantaneously by Jesus! Let's affirm the same for Bobby's condition.>>

    Affirmed every day. It will not fail. Thanks again.

    Posted by: Christine at August 17, 2006 12:44 AM

    Hiya, Bobbey! You sweet prince, you are probably having your massage right now. What a great transcript of Dr. Dean R's interview. You are so fortunate to have him, the Jacksons, Michael M., Peter B., Edgar P., all your nurses, Alex, Dr. Kathy A., everyone else at Fair Hill Farm, & of course "The Barbaro Nation". But we are even more lucky to have you, Bobbey! Have wonderful dreams tonight and awaken refreshed and ready to face a new day. Hugs, pets, & "scratches" from your pals in CT at the close of a glorious day - Robyn, Brnet, & Nikita

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at August 17, 2006 12:45 AM

    Nighty, night Barbaro! By now you've probably finished your "buffet de grass" and are enjoying your massage. You are too much!!

    When you see Dr. R tomorrow, please tell him we say THANKS for taking the time to answer our questions (He even answered mine!) We learned so much more about you, your daily routine and we had confirmed what we already knew, that your greatness is still on display for all to see.

    God bless you Barbaro; still praying for you a lot because we want you to keep improving every day.

    See you in the morning.

    Posted by: Sue W. at August 17, 2006 12:46 AM

    Houston, TX
    What factors play a part in determining when you will say Bobby is OUT OF THE WOODS?!

    Dr. Richardson
    An acceptably strong structure to his LH foot and complete integrity, comfort and strength in his RH leg.

    Just got back on the board - missed Dr. R chat till now - he answered my question!!

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at August 17, 2006 12:50 AM

    CHAMP...THE WHOLE WORLD IS SINGING YOUR PRAISES !
    YOU were HEADLINE NEWS on CNN THIS EVENING !!!!!!
    YOU ARE SOOOOO LOVED SWEET BOBBY...enjoy your fresh cut greens and your relaxing massage.......
    YOU HAVE DEFINITELY EARNED IT !!!

    THANK YOU LORD for YOUR CONTINUED MIRACLE.....
    WE DOOO BELIEVE !!!!!!

    THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED PRAYERS and FAITH IN BOBBY'S MIRACLE !!!!!!
    THE FINISH LINE DRAWS CLOSER......

    BLESS YOU.....PEACE and LOVE TO ALL...

    Posted by: Maribel at August 17, 2006 12:52 AM

    Hi Laurie Hi everyone,
    I just got home.

    Laurie I did start a folder in the forum for this topic just now and put one piece of info in there so if you have something, its there for you use. The folder is simply called CUBBY INFO.

    The facts in this case still seem kind of sketchy to me. AS Laurie said, the two of us will try to keep our ears to the ground on this.

    We recently had an incident at our Zoo involving some Meercats and boy, did the public get mad around here about it. I am hopeful as Laurie is, that this will create some public awareness.

    It's that good old Barbaro Effect again!!!

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at August 17, 2006 12:52 AM

    Sweet Barbaro,
    Glad to hear you are resting comfortably and getting your massage.

    Read the interview with Dr R, what a great person he is so humble and inspiring. Very direct with some of his answers and taking the time to explain others which makes him such a wonderful person and vet.

    Thank you so much Alex and all who update and support this site and keep us posted on all issues, horses, Mike Rea, etc.
    Going to light candles for Bobby, Mike,etc...

    Bobby have a great night and continue to heal brave boy. Enjoy your grazing tomorrow.
    I got my Barbaro Car Magnet today!

    Much Love and Admiration,

    Patty S in Florida

    Posted by: Patty S at August 17, 2006 12:53 AM

    What's this I'm hearing???!!

    Bobby has a personal masseuse on call??!!

    He eats hand-picked grass...from a bowl...while lying down??!!

    Barbaro Nation, I was afraid of this.

    Brace yourselves.

    Take a deep, cleansing breath.

    Here it is.

    Bobby has turned into a...

    housecat.

    Posted by: Susan E. at August 17, 2006 12:53 AM

    Susan E

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    P.S. My cat does NOT find that funny

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at August 17, 2006 12:55 AM

    Good night special Barbaro.

    On second thought, special does not do you justice. How about, incredible Barbaro, or stupendous Barbaro, or extraordinary Barbaro? It is quite possible that a new adjective will need to be invented just for you.

    God is watching over you, healing you. Our prayers and well wishes are being answered. What an honor to witness your miracle.

    Sweet dreams beautiful
    xoxoxo


    Believe in Miracles
    Believe in Barbaro

    Posted by: Lisa Morin at August 17, 2006 12:55 AM

    Hi my little Bobby: Hope you're feeling super today. Just take baby steps honey and you will be fine.

    With regards to what Sally said yesterday. I can certainly appreciate your fear. Please remember though that Bobby is in the best hands possible and I'm sure Dr. R knows what he is doing. He brought him this far he's not going to do anything reckless or let anything happen to him. Bobby needs to be outside. It has definitely picked up his spirits and make his will to live only that much stronger. This horse is so incredibly gifted and strong, nothing is going to stop him now. And besides, Dr R. is truly amazing. He found what was wrong with my horse when no one else could. So try not to worry too much. I know it's still hard and Barbaro is still on shaky ground but you gotta believe and have hope. We are witnessing a true miracle in Bobby and I truly believe that he will have a long, happy and healthy life ahead of him. Just keep the prayers going and leave the worrying to the experts. He is in the best hands he could possibly be in. Take Care, Lorraine

    Posted by: lorraine at August 17, 2006 12:57 AM

    Praying for Lost in the Fog too.

    Posted by: Lisa Morin at August 17, 2006 12:59 AM

    Susan E - too funny. He can come live here with me and my 4 horsecats, They would all get along so well. Come on Bobby - come to mommy!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 17, 2006 1:00 AM

    Hi Leslie in MN,

    Thank you for the forum folder for Cubby Info.
    I will be sure to post when I see any info. that hasn't been covered yet.
    Thank you!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 17, 2006 1:01 AM

    That was great, Dr. Richardson Chat at the Bloodhorse. I think he covered every thing, I feel better. But we are talking way past Christmas. But that's Okay. We just need to pray for Barbaro and Dr. Richardson to keep doing the right things.
    Dr. Said "He is remarkably quick to pick up when you're trying to help him. Those are the sorts of things that make you like the horse a lot"
    "I can't deny the fact he is a very smart and particularly charismatic horse". Okay I love the Dr. he said all the right things to make me happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Lets not forget to pray for Fog, he need us too!
    ################################################

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 17, 2006 1:01 AM

    As we wind down tonight, I know many here are thinking about Lost in the Fog and his life and death struggle. This is a "play" on words, I guess you could say, but it gives us a basis for creative prayerful thought:

    Instead of thinking of him as "Lost" in the "Fog"; I prefer to think of him as "Found in the clarity of God's pure healing Light". No child of God is ever "lost"; and no child of God is ever in the "fog". I picture the Holy Rays of God's Light, bathing and caressing his body with the warm glow of Healing, and dissolving any and every thing in his body that is unlike God. Disease is not a part of God's universe; therefore, it cannot be a part of this horse named LITF.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 17, 2006 1:05 AM

    #####

    Susan E.,

    My cats just told me to inform you that no way in the world would they ever eat hand-picked grass. Hand-picked salmon, maybe, but hand-picked grass? Yuck! : ) LOL!!

    Posted by: Sandie at August 17, 2006 1:07 AM

    bobby, have a wonderful night. I can just imagine you laying down and eating your grass from a bowl! talk about a life of leisure! You deserve it, big guy. One of my dogs eats lying down also.

    Continued prayers for you Barbaro, and LITF as well.

    On the Montgomery Gentry incident, I can't wait to listen to Lexington radio tomorrow and see how the DJ's will defend this one. They put MG on a pedestal here because they're both from Central Kentucky. I DID like their music usually, but knew they were kind characters. I'll join in the stomping of their CD's.

    Kim

    Posted by: Kim at August 17, 2006 1:07 AM

    Susan in TX:)

    You have me laughing out loud.....Fog in the Night?

    I know you meant Lost in the Fog......

    Your hilarious...

    Jeanette

    Posted by: Jeanette C. at August 17, 2006 1:08 AM

    susan = don't yhou have a sick kitty? How is he?

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 17, 2006 1:11 AM

    Alex thank you for posting about Fog, I am just so worried about him.
    May God him and his doctor!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 17, 2006 1:11 AM

    LORETTA - beautiful, and a tear-jerker, of course!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 17, 2006 1:11 AM

    SUSAN E - I fear our boy has turned into a gigolo!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 17, 2006 1:14 AM

    IS MIRACULOUS MISS OK? I ALSO SAW HER ACCIDENT, THAT WAS AWFUL, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT HER. WILL SOMEONE POST THE LINK ABOUT HER? THANKS SO MUCH!!!

    LOVE & PRAYERS TO BOBBY AND EVERYONE,
    CHERYL
    INDY
    :>)

    Posted by: Cheryl from Indy at August 17, 2006 1:17 AM

    LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE BOY

    What does it take to make Barbaro whole?
    A massage, some sunshine, fresh grass in a bowl?

    Stud muffins, apples,
    Baby carrots with greens,
    Green and white peppermints dance through his
    dreams.

    Michael and Peter and Gretchen and Roy,
    Their love and devotion for their brave boy.

    Nurses and interns and Doc Dean so keen,
    Alie and Rachel and the KF machine,

    Posses and prayers and lights that do heal,
    A website where everyone says how they feel.

    Smartness and courage and Old Soul and heart,
    A will to live that has burned from the start.

    Posted by: Susan E. at August 17, 2006 1:18 AM

    "SUSAN E - I fear our boy has turned into a gigolo!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 17, 2006 01:14 AM"

    Oh thanks, Nancy! I had a mouthful of water when I read that--now there are droplets on my keyboard and my nose hurts. :) :) :)

    Posted by: Susan E. at August 17, 2006 1:19 AM

    God be with LITF and his doctors.
    He was named Lost in the Fog, Why? One morning when he was a baby, he was lost in the fog in Florida.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 17, 2006 1:19 AM

    Hi Sally: Just read an additional post that you wrote today. I could only afford to get into horseracing by joining a partnership. My horse Walk spent a week with Dr. R. I believe the bill came out to something like $18,000.00. On my own there was no way I could afford that. Since Walk did make some money when he raced and since I have alot of partners my share was only $150.00.

    Walk is going to be laid up until the Spring so I will have additional expenses but nothing close to what it would be if I owned him outright. Would we do anything we could to keep him alive if something (god forbid) catastrophic happened? I'd like to believe that. I deal with a great bunch of people who genuinely love our horses.

    Case in point: Walk lost his first race by a nose. The next time he went out, he won by 7 lengths being eased. The phone was ringing off the hook for people looking to buy him. We had an offer for $1.2 Mil, and every partner unanimously agreed to turn it down. We had a legitimate Derby contender who unfortunately got hurt in his first stakes race and had to shelved until the Spring. He went to Dr. R. last month because he suffered another injury. Today, ohter than a few fair weather friends, there is not one person in our partnership that is sorry they turned down that offer. In fact, we are grateful that we didn't take it. Because, had we taken it and had Walk gotten hurt again God only knows what would have happened to him. He has an injury that only seems to manifest itself in training. Had he run on it, he might have broken down. I for one could never have lived with that if we sold him.

    In closing, yes there are alot of expenses associated with being a horse owner and it's very difficult to do it on your own; but for the sheer love of the animal you would do anything in your power to try and save him.

    Lorraine

    Posted by: lorraine at August 17, 2006 1:23 AM

    I just finished reading the transcript of the Dr. Richardson interview. Although my question specifically was not presented, I was very impressed by the professional questions and did get the answers I sought. Dr. Richardson seems to be a very sincere,forthright and humble person who desseminates information about Barbaro in a concise but understandable way. It became clear how much emotion he has invested in saving Barbaro. I know myself and everyone else is so grateful to him no matter what the final outcome is. However, I am so delighted by so many of the positive feedback about the possibility of Barbaro becoming a normal horse someday. For all of us Barbaromaniacs, I am sure that thought is comforting, as we keep on praying,hoping and believing in this great horse.

    Posted by: Lorraine at August 17, 2006 1:25 AM

    IF WE SAY PRAYERS FOR LOST IN THE FOG AND SEND HIM OUR POSITIVE ENERGY, HOPEFULLY HE WILL GET BETTER ALSO.

    LOVE AND PRAYERS FOR BOBBY, LOST IN THE FOG AND EVERYONE!!

    CHERYL
    INDY

    Posted by: Cheryl from Indy at August 17, 2006 1:26 AM

    Thanks Lorraine for your input = I appreciate it.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 17, 2006 1:27 AM

    Praying for Bobby and all my horses and Lost in the Fog. Hope all goes well and he comes out of this okay. Lorraine

    Posted by: lorraine at August 17, 2006 1:32 AM

    SUSAN E- THAT WAS FUNNY- I THINK SO!! BOBBY WILL BE EXPECTING LIMO SERVICE AND A CONSTANT SERVANT FROM NOW ON. HE'S A CELEBRITY SO I GUESS IT'S EXPECTED THAT HE BE LIVING THE HIGH LIFE. LOL!!

    LOVE AND PRAYERS FOR BOBBY AND EVERYONE,

    CHERYL
    INDY
    :>)

    Posted by: Cheryl from Indy at August 17, 2006 1:36 AM

    I think it is now safe to say that Dr. Dean is a Barbaromaniac!

    Posted by: chris byers at August 17, 2006 1:38 AM

    Thank you God,for keeping Bobby happy and comfotable. Thank you for surrounding him with wise, caring people. Thank you for healing him. I pray for, believing and expecting, continued good reports tomorrow.

    Night all!

    Posted by: Susan in TX at August 17, 2006 1:39 AM

    This all makes me soooo wish I'd become a vet, like I wanted as a little girl...

    Posted by: Pat at August 17, 2006 1:39 AM

    "This all makes me soooo wish I'd become a vet, like I wanted as a little girl..."

    Me, too.

    Posted by: Susan E. at August 17, 2006 1:42 AM

    Healing thoughts and positive energies for Bobby, Mike Rea, Foggy and everyone here.

    May tomorrow be a good day!

    Posted by: chris byers at August 17, 2006 1:43 AM

    I just love all animals so much. I thought it would be too hard to put one to sleep.

    I didn't think I could do it, and survive emotionally.

    Posted by: Pat at August 17, 2006 1:45 AM

    I wanted to be a vet - until - one day I was at the vets and a call came in about a puppy being hit by a car well I just started crying - they brought the puppy in while I was there - he had some scrapes and bruises but he was ok - from then on I knew i could not be a vet - I would be an emotion wreck every time something like that happened.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 17, 2006 1:46 AM

    Yep, Sally. That's what I feared. I guess those who are meant to be Vets, are...like Dr. R.
    And those of us who wish to help animals, but know we may not be able to sustain what's required of that profession...well, we find another way to love and heal!

    Posted by: Pat at August 17, 2006 1:49 AM

    Hello Barbaro,
    Sounds like you've got this whole thing figured out my Dear! Grazing, visitors galore, baby carrots, grass in a BOWL and a massage! Barbaro....really.
    Someone mentioned "High maintenance" earlier....

    I hope you had a healing, good day today. Along with my prayers for you tonight, I will be including Lost in the Fog prayers as well. He has so many fans on this site as well. I wish him the best care and caring people for him.

    Please get some good rest tonight. We're expecting rain tomorrow but hopefully you'll have sunshine on your face for your grazing adventure. Sleep well Honey and remember, only sweet dreams for you Barbaro. I'm so proud of you and very happy for you and your progress.
    I love you and I will check in first thing in the morning. Good night Honey. XXOO

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 17, 2006 1:53 AM

    Pat,
    not sure...............I patted up a Boxer who has pins from a broken leg.
    how trainer can ya get"
    always,
    Susan
    Believe.

    Posted by: SusanW. at August 17, 2006 1:56 AM

    Good night Bobby: It's been a long day, so I'm just getting through all of the posts from today.

    Everyone here is sending you lots of love and positive thoughts. I bet you can feel them, can't you...

    Dr Dean was the man this evening. He answered a bunch of questions that people asked him. Most, if not all of them were about you. You are a Superstar.

    I bet you will sleep well tonight after your massage.

    Loretta, thank you for the posts and your great visual. I'm sure we could have a small crowd if we got an invitation. We may need to hire a couple of traffic cops to direct traffic to the Jackson's farm on that wonderful day. Plus we'll have to add some Carrot Posse crossing signs.

    Laurie (in Mn) and Leslie (in Mn): I'm in Mpls as well, so I'll be digging for info on Cubby. I have a couple of friends who work for the DNR, so maybe I can get some info.

    So sad to hear about Lost in the Fog. I'll keep him in my prayers. I don't know about horses, but my Lab (Chip) has lived a very happy and active life for 3 years without a spleen.

    Sweet dreams Bobby Boy. Maybe you can say a quick prayer for Lost in the Fog when you are outside grazing tomorrow.

    Just remember Bobby, has a bunch of great people looking after him. It's not only Dr Dean, but the Jackson's, Michael, Peter, Dr Anderson, Edgar and everyone else who has ever been in contact with this horse, is nothing short of incredible.

    Believe in Miracles,
    Believe in Barbaro. (Lisa Morin)

    Praise the Lord and Pass the Carrots. (Lillian Petroff)

    Living Proof of the Living Truth. (C Jaffe)

    Becky and Chip

    Posted by: Becky at August 17, 2006 1:57 AM

    Hi everyone

    Just got home and am printing out the transcript to read later. Staring at this screen hurts my eyes.

    As I was going though the posts I noticed a couple of mentions about the owners will and ability to save a horse's life in the event of catastrophic injury.

    Most of you know that no one loves their horses more than I do. However, if the unthinkable were to happen, I do not have the means to do what the Jacksons are doing. What they are doing is a wonderful thing but you cannot measure the rest of us by that standard.

    People like me make heartbreaking decisions every day. I only hope and pray that I am never in that position because I know what the decision would have to be.

    I know that most of you don't understand because you're used to seeing the famous owners and trainers with lots of money. But the majority of us are not in that catagory. Our horses don't run in million dollar races. I do believe that, because of this site, you are learning more about the "real" world of racing. And that is a good thing.

    I have nightmares all the time about one of my babies being hurt and would hate to think that if any of those nightmares came true that I would be judged or labeled an uncaring owner. Those of you who know me, know that is simply not true.

    Barbaro and Lost in the Fog are lucky to have owners that can do so much for them. And I hope and pray that they both recover and have wonderful lives. I wish the same were possible for ALL horses, but it just isn't.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 1:58 AM

    Shelly A.
    never worry about your babies....Trust me....they are first things on our mind...In the heat of summer or the freezing cold of winter...ya just put up your flannels and ShitK**kers on....then you just go, girl,
    Love ya,
    Susan W
    Believe in our Miracle.

    Posted by: SusanW at August 17, 2006 2:06 AM

    I CAN SEE WHERE SALLY'S HEART IS COMING FROM, SHE IS A HUGE ANIMAL LOVER AND MEANS WELL. I HAVE CATS & DOGS, LIKE HER UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE HORSES, BUT SOME OF MY $$$ FRIENDS DO. MY DOG HAS HEART DISEASE AND HIS VET BILL WAS $500 LAST MONTH AND HE HAS TO GO BACK NEXT MONTH AND IT WILL BE A FEW HUNDRED AGAIN. I WOULD NEVER PUT HIM DOWN, UNLESS I ABSOLUTELY HAD TOO, BUT I REALIZE THAT EQUINE CARE IS A WHOLE LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN CAT/DOG VET CARE. THE JACKSON'S ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO GIVE BARBARO THE BEST CARE HE CAN HAVE.

    LOVE & PRAYERS TO BOBBY & EVERYONE,
    CHERYL
    INDY

    Posted by: Cheryl from Indy at August 17, 2006 2:07 AM

    Just wanted to thank Alex and all on this site for being so informative on Bobby...Have a wonderful night all...Godspeed big guy! Loves

    Posted by: Liz at August 17, 2006 2:07 AM

    LOVE the Kathy Anderson report! Eating grass from a bowl before he has his message! Sleep well Barbaro..can't wait for tommorrow's NBC update.

    Posted by: Mary at August 17, 2006 2:08 AM

    Renee
    Thanks for the email got it,
    Thanks to all you good souls who love Barbaro and
    pray for him.
    Thanks for all your happy thoughts and good wishes
    best wishes to all of you
    Keep those good vibes coming!!!!

    Posted by: FOB at August 17, 2006 2:08 AM

    Good Evening Barbaro and Barbaromaniacs, Wow, what a day and evening!
    Thanks to Linda and all who posted Dr. R's questions and answers on the site tonite. I was unable to participate, but all of you who did post, did a fantastic job! Thank you so much!

    Bobby, what can I say, but keep strong Sweetie, take your meds, eat and enjoy those massages...hay! MOve over I could use one, too!

    Alex and Tim, you will never know how much you have filled a void in my life and added to my knowledge of horses..words cannot express my appreciation for allowing this website to flourish and be a part of this magnificient journey!

    Barbaro, sweet dreams my Boy...Candles for Mike Rea, LITF and his owners, M/M Jackson, Tim, Alex, Eliza, Jen, KF and the last, but not least, Dr. Richardson and your entire NBC Staff!

    Posted by: Debra B. at August 17, 2006 2:10 AM

    SusanW

    I know. Even if we have a bad storm, I call and make sure the barn and the horses are okay. It never leaves your mind.

    Another thing most people probably don't realize is that loosing a horse is not only devistating emotionally. The small owners don't have insurance. So every penny that we have paid since they were babies is just gone. You're left with nothing but heartbreak and broken dreams.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 2:11 AM

    ShelleyA,

    You're absolutely correct. Most of us do not the financial means to keep a horse at a university for months on end. I had my QH at a university for a week in February (skull fracture) and it cost me over $1,500 which was pretty close to the maximum that I could spend.

    No matter which decision we make, some will judge us. My 'judgement' often comes in the form of 'why are you bothering with that horse, he isn't worth it'. That's just as hard to handle as those that condemn us for not spending every penny we have or going far into debt.

    Long ago I decided that the only opinion I will take to the grave with me will be my own. As far as judgement is concerned, my final judgement will not be made by someone on earth who has never experienced my life.

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at August 17, 2006 2:12 AM

    A few years ago I put $3,000 on a credit card to pay for gall bladder surgery for my 16 year old cat. Some of my friends thought I was crazy. But today she is 19 and happy and healthy (touch wood!!) and my best friend.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 2:13 AM

    Dear Sweet Pea, as your Aunt Laurie just said, please get some rest and know that hundreds and hundreds of the sweetest dreams are being wished for you tonight!!! xxooxxoo

    Tomorrow, I pray for you only sunshine, baby carrots (hidden or otherwise), hand picked or snarfu'd grass, alfalfa!, luschious grain....massages, warm, luscious baths and brushings.

    Dearest love, enjoy! You soo deserve this and your wonderful people know JUST what will best help you heal. All my love and prayers to you, Bobby, for another comfortable night and a GREAT day tomorrow!

    btw: Love the idea that NBC came up with, of the 'scavenger hunt' for treats. Helps relieve boredom and depression. Keeps a very, very smart guy thinking and needs mental stimulation.

    As always, GREAT going NBC!

    Posted by: Pat at August 17, 2006 2:13 AM

    Another put a smile on your face day with our Barbaro especially lying down and eating fresh grass from a bowl.

    Wonderful interview with Dr R - Thank you so much for the link Alex. What would we do without you? Not well.

    Prayers for Lost In The Fog.

    Believe In Miracles
    Believe In Barbaro

    Posted by: Jeri at August 17, 2006 2:14 AM

    Shelley A


    Very good comment. I admire you for saying that. It is the same in any kind of animals we have. Some have the means to go that extra step, and others just do not.


    I remember 25 years ago I was raising and training great danes. One of my females developed liver cancer. The cost of surgery alone (at that time) was going to be $2000. and no guarentees. Any one that has Danes know how "tender" they are with being put under anesthia. It broke my heart to have to put her down, but I did not have the funds to save her, and I did not want to see her suffer when the cancer became more advance (liver cancer is nasty).

    We are a farm community around here, and you see the same things come up here. My daughter will soon be a Large animal Vet and she has told me some pretty heart breaking stories from her work at the Farm at OSU, and her internship job.

    We have to be sympathic to those that just can not afford to do these measures, but be so thankful Barbaro has owners that can do what they are doing, as his fate could have been a lot worse.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at August 17, 2006 2:14 AM

    It's not juus TB owners who have to make choices -It's anyone who loves and owns horses - I had a horse who colicked and i got him to the best vet in the area - Made a decision to pay for surgery that cost more than he did (he didnt need it in the end) It was an easy decision because I love my animals - But last weekend, I went to feed my horses in the morning and a horse owned by a 16 year old girl was colickng - her parents are divorced, she pays for the board and all the upkeep for this horse, she is crying because she can't afford the vet much less surgery - I knew then I would do whatever it took to save someone else's horse as well....They get in your blood and you love them....(and Lizzie will forever have to listen to me on the value of education and a good job)

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at August 17, 2006 2:15 AM

    Shelley A.,

    I hope and pray that every horse owner never has to make the "ultimate" difficult decision, including the owners on this site.

    This site has opened my ignorant eyes to the inside realities of owning racehorses and horses in general.(I am not fortunate enough to have a horse, other than Barbaro! in my life)

    From reading your posts Shelley A., I would never doubt your love and concern for not only your babies, but for anyone's baby out there. Never. Just wanted you to know.

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at August 17, 2006 2:15 AM

    I saw some of you discussing the expense involved in TB care. I am learning alot about all of this. It is my hope that Bobby's extremely publicized case will raise awreness on the subject of horse medicine.

    Just a reminder that here at the University of MN there is a new Muti million dollar Equine Medicine and research center being built right now. Barbaro's case was mentioned at the ground breaking ceremony the other day.

    It is my hope that one day these high quality care centers will be plenitful around the country and perhaps owners will not be faced with such extreme $$$$ decisions.

    http://www.cvm.umn.edu/newsandevents/Equinegroundbreaking.html

    The above is a link to the info on the new center. Take a peek when you get a chance. WE are campaigning to have a Wing of this new placed named in honor of Barbaro. Perhaps a recovery pool or Sling area. I have emailed them about this so go ahead and do the same if you are so inclined.

    Have a pleasant evening,

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at August 17, 2006 2:16 AM

    Cheryl

    I'm not upset with anyone. I know the hearts of these people....especially my roomie, Sally.

    I was just trying to explain that the racing world is the same as the rest of the world. Upper class, middle class and the rest. I know that everyone that posted did so for the love of the animals.

    Shelley

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 2:17 AM

    Although I must say, it would also be fitting to have a new recovery Pool named :

    The University of Minnesota's Ruffian Surgical Recovery Pool

    Leslie In MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at August 17, 2006 2:21 AM

    Prayers for Lost in the Fog.

    Bobby, Hope you had as great of a day as we did hearing about you from your Dr and friend, Dr R.

    Sleep well, Heal well and soon.

    Love you Big Horse,

    Samantha

    Posted by: Sam-E at August 17, 2006 2:22 AM

    Beloved Barbaro,

    You continue to amaze us, but then, we knew from the beginning you were no ordinary horse! You are getting to go outside and play "hide & seek" with the carrots, strech your legs and feel the sun on your back, we are so thankful for the healing you have received and will continue to receive! Have ACN and try not to get the big head with the personal massuse and stuff...eating grass out of a bowl while laying down...lol

    Believe in Miracles
    Believe in Barbaro

    Posted by: Phyllis M...Dallas, Texas at August 17, 2006 2:22 AM

    Sweet dreams, beautiful boy! You are probably already sleeping after that relaxing massage...you are lucky to have some many people spoiling you. Just a reminder that we are all going to the finish line with you, no matter how long it takes. Your buddy the doc says you are very intelligent and cooperative with your treatment, so don't let him down by doing something colt-ish! I pray for health and healing for you, and ask you to remember your comrade Lost in the Fog in your prayers, that he may be Healed by the Light. Your buddy in CT loves you, big guy!
    BARBARO - CHAMPION OF MY HEART

    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at August 17, 2006 2:23 AM

    Thank you Laurie. That was very sweet of you to say.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 2:23 AM

    Shelly...
    Ouch that hit home. One thing I am proud of...is We never lost a horse...Ever.
    But every day, was a trust..how do you feel good one.......not so good. get the vet.
    We had a great horse..but believe me...every 2000 claimer was given the same attention. It was my afternoons...ok so tell me I did not have a life? LOL
    Love you,
    SusanW
    Believe in our Miracle

    Posted by: SusanW at August 17, 2006 2:24 AM

    Good Evening, Team Barbaro!

    I'm back from yoga - may have another equine Reiki client - another rescued horse named Cor Viva (heart of life). Cross your fingers.

    Was able to stay for about 45 minutes of Dr. R's discussion...very interesting. It is very obvious that he is a very caring, very talented, very compassionate vet/surgeon. After chatting with the delightful ladies at KF, I respect the NBC staff more and more each day.

    Sweet Bobby J, by now, you should be sound asleep. I bet the massage totally relaxed you and is working wonders with your blood circulation as well. Here's to sweet dreams, listening to Dr R., being VERY nice to the nurses. Tomorrow is a new day.

    Take care everybody.

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at August 17, 2006 2:25 AM

    Thanks, all, for the insight and knowledge shared. I so appreciate it! I know in my heart you are all amimal people.

    Thank you for openingly sharing your hearts and souls here, on this site in honor of our sweet boy, Bobby!

    I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES
    I BELIEVE IN BARBARO!

    Love to Barbaro and All,
    Pat

    Posted by: Pat at August 17, 2006 2:30 AM

    I CANNOT BELIEVE THE ANNOINTED ONE!!!
    When I first read this excerpt below, I couldn't get the visual image in my mind. I had to read it several times to 'conjure up' just what Bobby was doing. But, by golly, I think I've got it now! He is TOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!! "Laying down in an upright position, eating fresh picked grass from a bowl! .... at 7:45 PM tonight!!

    BOBBY, JUST BECAUSE OF THIS, I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!!!

    Update 463: Kathy Anderson just called (7:45 pm) and she was just leaving Barbaro, who was laid down, in an upright position, eating fresh picked grass from a bowl! As she was leaving his masseuse was arriving, who prefers to massage him laying down as he is then less active. Kathy's report was upbeat.

    Posted by: Linnie at August 17, 2006 2:34 AM

    ####

    Shelly and Joyce: I started this once and deleted it, but decided to post it.

    Don't worry about what others think. You know in your heart, how important your horses (babies) are to you.

    I don't have a horse, but I do have (Chip), a Lab and Chessie cross who is my baby. I'm very aware that many loving families could not have afforded the medical bills that I've paid for Chipper Dipper over the past couple of year.

    Many of my friends say that he is lucky to have me as an owner, but I realize that I'm the lucky one, who has been blessed with him for the past 10 year.

    If something were to happen to your babies, take comfort in the fact that they were happy and loved. They were doing what they loved and what they were bred to do.

    I can only hope that someday I have the opportunity to own and love a horse.

    Believe in Miracles,
    Believe in Barbaro. (Lisa Morin)

    Praise the Lord and Pass the Carrots. (Lillian Petroff)

    Living Proof of the Living Truth. (C Jaffe)

    Becky and Chip

    Posted by: Becky at August 17, 2006 2:37 AM

    Barbaro Jackson...kind of makes me smile
    when I think of James Taylor...Rockabye sweet Baby J\deep greens and blue are the colors I chose
    Sleep well my angel.
    You look good to me.
    Love to family and MY POSSE
    Susan

    Posted by: SusanW at August 17, 2006 2:38 AM

    Dr. Richardson indicates that Barbaro is a truly great horse that did not have the opportunity to show it.
    I disagree. Barbaro will not be written into history as a triple crown winner, but the true measure of his greatness (and that of his doctors, owners, and trainers) is being manifest right now. He is surviving a catastophic injury.
    He has brought thousands of people together in love and hope. He will have a tremendous impact on the sport and more importantly on the lives of all who care about him.
    Yes, he is truly great and he shows that greatness more and more each and every day.
    Love you, Big B.

    Posted by: LORI at August 17, 2006 2:39 AM

    Believe in Barbaro, God said "Be quiet and know I am God." I honestly believe that our common prayer and our common desire for goodness and for what was right did have an effect upon Bobby. God healed Bobby and it is just now for our infantile eyes to see what HE has done. The moments that we asked and we believed, it was done. HE worked his miracles through our belief and guided Dr. J.'s hands to make this apparent to our sight, God bless them all. Amen.

    Posted by: susan green at August 17, 2006 2:39 AM

    it took me twenty years to figure out what i saw in the eye of a grey whale.=-the nature of faith and unconditional love.
    dear everyone.
    .alex is alseep by now and so are many of you. skyler said something so simple, so beautiful..be like barabro..a child full of wonder..enjoying the moment.-
    fear and worry are ways to avoid the real moment ..being in the moment means that ..no place tor worry ..\
    i pray for lost in the fog..bless his heart for running with a tumor the size of a cantelope..and never complaining..and cubby and all the animals that we never near about. perhaps barbaro brings many things to light. XOMPASSION is a wonderful thing-.do we have the courage to follow his simple way of life...form the inside out..
    .imagine
    ..he learned to run wiht the wind and now his destiny. is so different..greeks worte about it, shakespeares wrote volumes baout betrayals and disappointments..and ficklleness and LOVE, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE--.he has to work it out..i have all the confidence in the world that he is being cared for in the best poissible way. seocnd guessing is not something i want to get into...the lord knows more then i do..what is ,is what is. and what we chose to do wiht the moment makes all the difference.
    thank you bobby for all your teachings and inspiration.--. sleep well darling bobby and we light a candle saturday for you again..and for that dear brilliant horse foggy.
    may you all sleep well --trust..and not worry but lets all go the high road..just like boibby.
    ...putting our ears back is ok too. love,love..martita

    Posted by: martita foshen at August 17, 2006 2:42 AM

    Hi fellow Barbaromaniacs,

    Wasn't the interview with Dr. R awesome? Our Bobby certainly has him wound around his hoof! What a special horse you are Bobby.

    To all the horse owners: Anyone who has an animal takes on the reality of knowing that someday we may have to make a painful decision. I had to euthanize two of my kitties so far because of cancer. My vet offerred treatment options that were pricey and might only buy a few weeks more. You can only do so much, and cost is a factor. Bless you for caring for your equine friends so much. I have learned so much from Dr. R and all of you. The greatest gift we can give our animal friends is our love.

    Sleep well, dear Bobby.

    Alex--you are a prince! Even the foxes and deer pay you homage.

    Keep Bobby and Lost in the Fog in your thoughts and prayers. It WILL help.

    Peace,
    Buckyes for Barbaro
    Kathy from Toledo and the cats

    Posted by: Kathy A. at August 17, 2006 2:43 AM

    Lorraines,

    It seems we have 2 of you all posting. Could you possibly use last initials so we don't get you confused?

    Posted by: Judy Walker in WA at August 17, 2006 2:45 AM

    Just lit my candles ... at the same time I was picturing both Barbaro and Mike Rea in deep, peaceful slumber. Such a calm... I wish the same to you all. Nite

    Posted by: Judy et al at August 17, 2006 2:48 AM

    another article on Lost in the Fog


    http://www.newsday.com/sports/horseracing/ny-spmoran0817,0,6789482.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at August 17, 2006 2:49 AM

    Becky
    thank you. Glad you decided to post it

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 2:50 AM

    Shelley A - please forgive me for my earlier comments. I was talking out my ass and I'm soooo sorry I know how much you love your babies and I know how hard medical decisions are (the posts I have read) i feel like an idiot,

    Forgive me please!!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 17, 2006 2:51 AM

    I have two dogs, who are like my children to me, as I am CERTAIN that all you animal lovers out there have the very same regard for your own (babies) animals. However, before I became the keeper of my animals, I made very sure that whatever came up, I could handle the financial burden for the well being of my dogs. That is the promise I made to them...and the commitment. They depend on me.
    I believe that keepers of animals have the ultimate responsibility and duty to those animals they profess to love, to insure that they can be in it for the long haul and to never bail because of a lack of funds. If they can't afford to finish, they should never have started.

    I am not directing this at anyone. Please do not take it that way. It is just something I have always felt very strongly about.

    It appears that the Jacksons and many, many others here, honor their responsibilities as animal keepers. God bless them for that. For without that dedication and commitment, we very well may not have ever been here talking about Barbaro and wishing Barbaro well.

    Posted by: Therese at August 17, 2006 2:53 AM

    Good Night Precious Bobby. I am so happy to hear from Dr. Dean on your progress. Not even using the sling anymore, how special you are. You are an inspiration to all of us. Get a good sleep and I'll check you in the morning. I love you.

    Posted by: sharonlynn at August 17, 2006 2:55 AM

    Bobby I'm going to bed - just wanted to say that you and Dr Dean are quite a team - perhaps you should take it on the road. David Letterman, Actors Studio, etc. You two are so intuned to one another that I have confidence you will make it with Dr Dean by your side, You could be the next Dean Martin/Jerry Lewis, You both are on the same wavelength! I love it. Sleep well my love - I'll check on you in the AM. I love you soooo much. XXOO and SCRATCHIES!!!

    Aunty Sally

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at August 17, 2006 2:59 AM

    LOL ShelleyA,

    Looks like you've got to help a few girls out here in MN. Myself, Laurie, and Becky and Chipper,.. well, we have our beloved Doggies, but I guess we all want some horsey contact!. LOL! Maybe someday we can all come and see BoxCar, Wild One, and The Alibi and sneek in a peek at Smarty too! LOL
    Not sure which state your in but maybe someday huh?
    Oh Well, Good night Bobby J and everyone!

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at August 17, 2006 3:05 AM

    Bobby - Tell your Aunt Sally it is okay. We know that she meant some owners.

    Therese - I am with you. My pets are not disposable. Unless they are suffering they will not be put down for a lack of money. That is what a loan or credit card is for. They are worth it.

    Bobby - Sleep tight big guy. Right now you are likely dreaming of tomorrow's outing. Mmmmmmmmm... good fresh grass. Love and kisses to you.

    Posted by: Debbie B from Miami, Fl. at August 17, 2006 3:07 AM

    HI SHELLY A, I AGREE WITH THE OTHERS- I CAN SEE THAT YOU LOVE YOUR HORSES VERY MUCH. YOU ARE ALWAYS VERY KIND AND SWEET TO US AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU THAT WELL, SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE EXTREMELY LOVING TO YOUR HORSES. :>)

    LOVE AND HEALING FOR EVERYONE,
    CHERYL
    INDY


    Posted by: Cheryl from Indy at August 17, 2006 3:08 AM

    Lisa Leech - your story brought tears to my eyes. That is a beautiful thing you're doing for Lizzie. I know she will treasure you and your advice forever -- you've given her something that possibly will alter her entire life. Something good and gracious... God bless you.

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at August 17, 2006 3:08 AM

    OH DEAR GOD ... I just read this post and did not know that Lost in the Fog was a grandson of my beloved Secretariat. Special prayers and candles will be offered and lit for this horse, but I'm not at all surprised that he was still able to race with this cancer inside of him ... he definitely has the heart and courage of his Grandfather!!!

    Thanks for posting this ... I had no idea of his lineage!!! But I know he's gonna make it, just like Bobby! There is something very strong and courageous and brave about these 'beings' ... they are both going to make it through!! I believe it first in my heart, and then I see it ... thought/perception creates reality.

    ShelleyA at August 16, 2006 04:05 PM
    #####
    No Lost In The Fog is not a gelding, He is a colt.
    Per his pedigree. He is a grandson of Secretariat, on his dams side.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at August 16, 2006 05:20 PM

    Posted by: Linnie at August 17, 2006 3:10 AM

    Alex: Thank you for sharing such wonderfully uplifting news and comments from Drs. Anderson & Richardson, Kennett Florist, et al. I am too happy to sleep! ~ WE BELIEVE ~

    Posted by: Susan Hopkins at August 17, 2006 3:10 AM

    Sally

    You know I love you!!! You didn't mean anything by what you said. This is a learning experience.

    Therese,
    As I posted earlier, I spent $3.000 for gall bladder surgery on my 16 year old cat because there was a chance she could survive. And she did. I spend thousands on treatments for my other cat who had bone marrow disease but the day came when the vet said she couldn't get better. I ended up loosing her.

    For my horses, I pay vet bills every month to make sure they are taken care of. If they so much as cough, they get antibiotics. I pay a dentist to make sure their teeth are okay.
    Any question of soundness, they get ex-rays. My three year old had bucked shins and it cost thousands for shock wave therapy treatments and months out of training to make him better. Their health is not taken lightly.

    What we are talking about are catastrophic injuries. That is a whole different ballgame. Injuries to horses are quite different than our beloved house pets.

    I know it's hard to understand. Before I got involved with horses, I didn't understand all of this either.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 3:10 AM

    SUSAN GREEN-- THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL, YOUR PRAYER, VERY INSPIRATIONAL!! :>)

    THANKS,
    LOVE & PRAYERS,
    CHERYL
    INDY

    Posted by: Cheryl from Indy at August 17, 2006 3:12 AM

    Leslie

    I'm in PA. Anytime you're in my area, Boxcar, I'ma and Alibi would LOVE to meet you guys! And my trainer is very good about that. I bring people backside all the time.

    I also have wonderful my dog and cat(who is 19yrs old)

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 3:16 AM

    Bobby, my magnificent friend, it is bedtime. Sleep well on fresh, fragrant straw. Be careful getting up and down in the night. Have ACN! I'll see you tomorrow while you're having ACD!!

    You are an inspiration to furred, feathered, and whatever category humans fall into (often it's furred and/or feathered). Good night, brave one!

    Posted by: Susan E. at August 17, 2006 3:17 AM

    Thanks, ShelleyA. I do understand. It's great that there are so many people who go to the ends of the earth for their animals. I appreciate your input and knowledge about horses. I have learned alot since coming here.
    And please, please don't think that my opinions and thoughts are directed at anyone here. They are not. Like I said before, it is just something I feel very passionate about.

    You all have a great nite...and Bobby, don't stay up too late with the masseuse, and not too much to eat before bed, but I bet you licked the bowl
    clean anyway.

    Thanks again, ShelleyA...it fills my heart up to know you love your animals the way you do. And that goes for all of you!!!

    Posted by: Therese at August 17, 2006 3:17 AM

    Good night Barbaro !

    I missed the chat with Dr.R and can't get the transcripts - Thanks to those who posted the Q and A! DR . R rocks !

    Prayers and candles lit for Lost in the Fog.

    LOve the poem for Mike Rea !

    Poor Cubby !

    I feel that Barbaro will completley heal ! He is a miracle ! "Honk for Barbaro"

    Thanks Alex for all the links and keeping us posted !

    Sweet dreams Bobby !

    Good night all !

    As someone else from Ohio stated "Buckeyes for Barbaro !

    Posted by: Julia B at August 17, 2006 3:19 AM

    Dearest Barbaro,
    Goodnight our sweet boy. May you continue to do well and have many more comfortable nights.
    We love you big guy and will keep you in our thoughts and prayers.

    You are the inspiration for so many of us. You stand for what is still "good" in life.

    God Bless you Bobby. Sweet dreams.

    ALEX, thank you for another day of great updates.
    xoxo.

    Debra, WI

    Posted by: Debra, WI - campaigningforbarbaro.com at August 17, 2006 3:19 AM

    Thanks, Therese. Have a good night

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 3:20 AM

    Just an aside: Elvis had a Tennessee Walker (forgot his name), who performed in a show, to one of Elvis' songs, after Elvis was gone. Priscilla has a little clip of that in her "Tour of Graceland" video from several years ago. I've got the video but haven't looked at it in awhile.

    Posted by: Loretta at August 16, 2006 06:43 PM

    I haven't read all of the posts yet for the day, but in reading this one from Loretta, I just wanted to say that Today is the 29th Anniversary of Elvis' death ... August 16, 1977! Incredible that so many years have passed since The King left us ... "Long Live the King!!"

    Posted by: Linnie at August 17, 2006 3:25 AM

    Julia...I love it..."Honk for Barbaro". You should make some bumper stickers! That would be excellent.

    Good Nite ShelleyA. Thanks for understanding my position, and I am grateful for your input.

    One more thing...God Bless and keep Lost in the Fog, and his keepers tonite. I pray for a positive outcome for his camp. What a trooper he must be. Running with a melon-size tumor in his gut. Unbelievable. Sounds like he has some of the same stuff Bobby is made of. Good luck to them all. Will pray for his safe passage tonite, too.

    Slumber well, Bobby. You know you are loved.
    G'nite folks...for real this time.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Posted by: Therese at August 17, 2006 3:26 AM

    Linnie,

    "Long Live Barbaro"!!!

    Posted by: Therese at August 17, 2006 3:28 AM

    Lori,
    I agree that Big B certainly has been given the opportunity to show just how great he is. I'm sure Dr. Richardson was referring to his racing potential getting cut short but in some ways I think what Barbaro is doing is even more important than winning races. He is helping change track safety, raising awareness about horse slaughter and educating us about medical procedures for injured horses. That alone is huge!

    I saw California Blue Whales this evening going north along the California coast. So beautiful, so peaceful so in balance with nature. They are our teachers.

    Bless all the creatures!

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at August 17, 2006 3:28 AM

    SHELLY A, I'M COMING TO VISIT!! :>) THAT WAS A VERY SWEET STORY ABOUT YOUR CAT TOO, GAVE ME TEARS IN MY EYES. I'M IN INDIANAPOLIS, BUT SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN OHIO TOO WITH RELATIVES, WHAT PART OF PA ARE YOU IN? WOULDN'T YOU JUST CRAP IF SOME OF US SHOWED UP ON YOUR DOORSTEP?? :>)

    LOVE AND PRAYERS FOR EVERYONE,
    CHERYL
    INDY

    Posted by: Cheryl from Indy at August 17, 2006 3:29 AM

    ####

    Laurie (in MN) and Leslie (in MN)

    Don't worry, Chipper and I are looking for a place with some acreage to have a couple of horses. So far we haven't found anything, but still looking. We think we can find something up around Anoka and Burns Township.

    Maybe Shelly A can come out and visit and help us get the barn and pasture set up.

    I must get started on that petition/drive to get some piece of the new Equine facility at the U of MN named after Barbaro. Does anyone know, or have an educated guess, what the cost is of a sling system or pool recovery system? I'm sure the Small Animal Clinic hasn't forgotten Chip, because I think he gave a small love bite to the last student veterinarian that he saw.

    Only positive thoughts to Bobby. Sweet dreams precious baby boy.

    Believe in Miracles,
    Believe in Barbaro. (Lisa Morin)

    Praise the Lord and Pass the Carrots. (Lillian Petroff)

    Living Proof of the Living Truth. (C Jaffe)

    Becky and Chip

    Posted by: Becky at August 17, 2006 3:29 AM

    It is 8:30 pm in Los Angeles area and I just went to light my daily candles for Barbaro and all and there are only 1083 for Barbaro.

    Maybe those still up can light some before going to bed and then those on East Coast can light in morning.
    THANK YOU

    Posted by: Jeri at August 17, 2006 3:29 AM

    In the midst of our joy over Barbaro during the past week, let us also remember precious little Foggy and hold him in prayer just as we have with Barbaro for the last months. I think he should be an equal part of our vigil this week. There are more than enough love and prayers here to surround Fog, just as we did with Barbaro. I know the very first to concur with us enveloping Foggy with prayers and love would be Barbaro.

    Dear God in heaven, please continue the miracle you have shown us with Barbaro, continue to resore him to good health - and extend your gracious love and healing equally to his beautiful brother, Lost in the Fog. They are two of your magnificent creations. Please God, rest your healing hands on both of them. Thank you, dear God, for the miracles you have already shown us.

    Posted by: Karen at August 17, 2006 3:30 AM

    Therese - I thought of making bumper stickers - but would want to get approval from the Jacskons before I did- ! I would love it if everyone going down the highway was honking for Barbaro !!!

    Posted by: Julia B at August 17, 2006 3:35 AM

    What a great interview with Dr R. The diet-foundering question was brought up and Dr Richardson answered it nicely. Laminitis is not all one disease, with one cause. Hopefully a little up-to-the-minute vet science can quiet the concerns of Sally and whoever may be concerned they are letting Bobby graze [carbohydtates/]As the good Doc R said, loving horses is not enough to be a veterinarian, you neet to have critical thinking & science too.



    Conroe, Texas
    I have a question about his laminitis. Since it was caused by uneven weight distribution, is he still going to be able to eat grain and alfalfa, or is that out of the question now? If he makes it through this, is he going to be able to have a normal diet?

    Dr. Richardson
    This is a common misconception. Alfalfa and grain do NOT cause laminitis in a case such as this. Overeating can cause laminitis but the mechanisms are quite different. A horse in Barbaro's condition NEEDS to eat a lot of high quality feed in order to maintain his weight and optimize healing.

    Warmly, Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at August 17, 2006 3:38 AM

    Just got through perusing the posts. So good to see everyone focused and positive! I stayed late at work to read the live chat on Bloodhorse.com - it was great and I'm glad there were several questions from the Barbaromaniacs answered! :o)

    I hope everyone has a restful night, and Bobby, I hope yours is especially so! Each day brings you one step closer to your goal!! Don't give up!!!

    Have a good night, all!

    -Julie

    Posted by: Julie Z. at August 17, 2006 3:43 AM

    LYNNIE, I LOVED ELVIS TOO. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN 29 YEARS, I REMEMBER BEING AT THE SWIMMING POOL WITH MY LITTLE FRIENDS THE DAY HE DIED. I WAS ONLY 10, BUT I REMEMBER EVERYONE BEING SO UPSET. AS I GOT OLDER, I LEARNED MORE & MORE ABOUT HIM AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HIS MUSIC!! HIS LAST PERFORMANCE WAS HERE IN INDIANAPOLIS AT MARKET SQUARE ARENA, WHICH THEY HAVE NOW TORN DOWN, WHICH MADE ME SAD TOO.

    LOVE & PRAYERS,
    CHERYL
    INDY

    Posted by: Cheryl from Indy at August 17, 2006 3:43 AM

    Cheryl

    I'm in Bucks County. That's the northeastern suburbs of Phila.
    You're welcome anytime!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at August 17, 2006 3:45 AM

    I really am not here to argue I will not attack anyone in here that is not my style but I will speak up for Barbaro-you do not walk a horse that has no hoof-doesnt that alram you>it should-did his hoof grow back????? nooooooooooooooso he should not be exercised-I am through with this site for I can not read how hwe is healed now and see all his supports taken away -if he founders again I will be very upset and it will be too late to help him-I love you Barbaro and I know what you are going through-I just hope that the lord will some how get the drs attention-Barbaro is there to be healed not be on Good morning america-I am finished with all who do not understabd this disease -I have tried to explain-buit you do not want to hear anything other than what you think-did you lose a horse to founder?I will continue to pray for my sweet Barbaro-and pray that his routine changes before harm is done-I do not feel that your attacks on me are valid and I am not concerned with anything but saving barbaro-but I tried-I am not the only one who is concerned-other people will not speak out because they dont want to be attacked like I was but I dont care i only want Barbaro to recover and live and think a couple of months is not too long to be careful and continue with what made him get better-now he has neither-God bless you Barbaro-

    Posted by: sally from florida at August 17, 2006 3:51 AM

    Good, late evening to all from the West Coast -

    Went on Bloodhorse today to see questions some lucky people got to ask Dr. Richardson and his responses. Saw a question signed from the "Barbaromaniacs"(loved that!!!)


    Saw most of them, but apparently missed this one by DR. RICHARDSON...

    ". . .presence of greatness, and I think he truly was a great horse who did not have a chance to show it. All those things combined, it is hard not to be emotionally involved. . ."


    In speaking this way about BARBARO, Dr. Richardson candidly speaks for all of us who have faithfully followed, and will continue to, all the progress and updates of this amazing horse and the wonderful people who surround him.

    THANK YOU FOR POSTING IT, ALEX!


    PRAY FOR BARBARO AND ALL THOSE WHO LOVE AND CARE FOR HIM.

    Posted by: Jill--in No.Calif. at August 17, 2006 3:52 AM

    Thank you God for Bobby's right and perfect healing, and for his complete and pain-free recovery. Thank you that miracles follow miracles, and wonders never cease.

    Bobby - Magnificent Steed! It is an honor to stand with you. Another day closer.

    The Light of God surrounds you
    The Love of God enfolds you
    The Power of God Protects you
    The Presence of God watches over you
    Wherever you are Bobby, God IS.

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at August 17, 2006 3:52 AM

    Salley,

    Who is in West Palm Beach?? I can't remember. Is that Linnie??

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at August 16, 2006 10:44 PM

    Wish it was me, Janice, but it's not ... I'm in Delray Beach ... sorry!!

    Posted by: Linnie at August 17, 2006 4:01 AM

    I also feel badly about Lost in the Fog. How so sad. What I don't understand is were the symptoms invisible all this time?? I can't stand knowing that this poor horse was racing with that monster lug growing inside of him. I sometimes wish whatever mild discomfort he showed earlier had been taken more seriously.

    I will pray for Lost in the Fog, that'll be as lucky as our beautiful Barbaro has been.

    Posted by: Elana at August 17, 2006 4:16 AM

    Precious Barbaro:) May you have a restful sleep filled with lots of healing, calm and love. May our Heavenly Father continue to keep your road to recovery free from discomfort. May His angels protect you and whisper words of encouragement to your "perky" ears. Father, thank you for "The Miracle of Barbaro".


    Lost in the Fog:) May our Heavenly Father show us yet another miracle in your healing. May your road to recovery be guided by His angels and filled with light from the candles that are being lit for your healing. Father, please hold yet another of your beautiful creations close to you and protect him. Amen

    Barbaro Team:) Have a pleasant and restful night.


    Jeanette Cavalier

    Posted by: Jeanette C. at August 17, 2006 4:19 AM

    To Karen Argent -

    Thank you for a wonderful video tribute which I have just had the honor to view. For once! I could watch one most of the way through without crying, because I knew how this one would end!!! I could smile along with Dr. Richardson! The comments at the end did it, though... that brought on the tears.

    Thank you again for your beautiful work and peaceful music - and the "subject" was the best of all.

    Love that boy.

    Shelley in CA


    Posted by: Shelley in CA at August 17, 2006 4:23 AM

    Excellent point, Sandie:

    understand what Dr. R is saying here, but I have to ask, how does one put a number on the value of such a beautiful creature. They're all priceless.

    Posted by: Sandie at August 16, 2006 11:33 PM

    I understand completely what Dr. R is saying, also, but value shouldn't be measured by whether one horse is a racing champion and another is not ... they should all be treated as equal creature in the eyes of God and the Universe.

    Having said this, however, I understand that certain horse owners just don't have the funds necessary to maintain a 'stricken' horse; but it would upset me tremendously to know that a decision whether or not to save a horse's life (or any animal, for that matter) is contingent on his monetary value to his owners or his financial burden if he is NOT earning money for the owners.

    This is why I have so much admiration and respect for Gretchen and Roy Jackson!

    Posted by: Linnie at August 17, 2006 4:24 AM

    Karen, great movie you made.

    So many talented people on this board, I wish I had your know how. alas, all I can do is enjoy what others make..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at August 17, 2006 4:41 AM

    Good night Barbaro!

    Good night LindaA and MIke C. I just love hearing from you two. Please pray for Barbaro tonight. I know I will!!!!

    Ashley

    Posted by: Ashley at August 17, 2006 4:47 AM

    BARBARO....we loved hearing from Doctor R today.....(I totally agree with his descriptions of YOU!)
    Such good news....And you are so good!


    We love you dearie,you are a bright and shining example to all of us....


    Praying for Mary L,Mike R,Dan F.,dear Fog,and all who are hurting tonight.


    Thanks to Alex for wonderful updates today,and a great forum-extension. Thank you for all your answers to 'our questions' Alex,and you do it with 'cheer'(s)


    Good night to Ashley,thanks for saying 'hi'...


    BARBARO,you are loved!
    Love,hugs,


    Linda A
    Oregon

    Posted by: Linda A in Oregon at August 17, 2006 5:14 AM

    Shelly A..
    where in Bucks? I lived there most of my life!!!!
    another buckscoutian............
    Love to you
    SusanW.
    Believe in Bobby.

    Posted by: susanw at August 17, 2006 5:17 AM

    Sally:

    You said earlier today that you were through with this site and yet here you are again (snicker).

    Where did you get your vet degree at????

    Flaming Dr R are we?

    Did you not read the protection that Bobby wears on his left hind? You make it sound like he's being tortured. He's being walked on basically exposed bone.

    Please go and read the chat transcript. Bobby had a serious resection done. Yes, we know that. But he's also well protected.

    Bobby is out of the sling because he showed them that it wasn't useful anymore. He doesn't need pain meds because he can handle what's going on.

    The pain your in is affecting your ability to see the whole picture here. But what you're doing here is hurting the rest of the Barbaro community with the hurtful statments your making against Dr R.

    Please we need you to take your concerns over to the forum where we can address them in a more appropriate environment.
    BR>
    MM

    Margaret

    Posted by: Margaret at August 17, 2006 6:00 AM

    I am so excited! My question was answered by Doc R. Cool.

    Barbaro changed my life. I am 40 and have been waitressing and going to school for what seems forever. I couldn't find my "calling". I'd worked with children and teens and had even begun nursing school thinking that, while I didn't really feel compelled to do it, I'd be helping in the world. I couldn't get past touching people/passing that invisible boundary.

    I have rescue pets for the first time as an adult and my heart has opened. Then, the Preakness and Bobby J. and I was thrust immediately back to my childhood memory of watching Ruffian with my daddy. I cried all day and thought of my life before my father died.

    I was always outside with animals. They would come right up to me. Dogs that bit everyone would play with me. Birds would land on me. I was so happy.

    There was a vet tech ad on the internet in the next couple of days and I pursued finding one near me. There Is ONE program in my whole half of the state and it is only and hours drive each way. My nursing school classes are part of the curriculum, too.

    I am so excited for the first time in my life to be on a path that I feel so real and good about.

    I owe this to Bobby J. I am in his debt. I have always loved horses and he is so special to me.

    Sorry to be so long-winded.

    God bless you Barbaro. Be well and happy.

    Posted by: mish ~ future vet tech at August 17, 2006 6:08 AM

    LOVE SUCKS SOMETIMES - - - - - - - - You are dreaming now, Bobby , How did I fall so in love with you? It hurts a lot sometimes, like now. We are on some kind of knife-edge where we can fall forward into grassy fields, or back, I won't go there again without a fight to push us both back up onto the knife-edged precipice, so we can fall forward into the grass again. Oh how demanding "being in the presence of greatness" can be! I know you are going to get better Bobby, in fact you are going to get better than anyone in their right mind, like Dr. Dean, would dare speak, he knows we hang on every hopeful syllable, so he is gentle with us. Bobby, your hoof is going to get solid as rock, er, solid as a hoof is supposed be. You will be able to SCARE US WITLESS with bursts of speed in your pasture, just so you can hear us beg, "Be careful, Bobby"! "Watch out for your leg!" "You'll break a screw loose!" "Please slow down, but easy, easy on the brakes, yeah, we see the cloud of dust, we're real impressed with your devil-may-care attitude....Stop that snorting and pawing the ground and come over here to the fence where we can pet you. Comeon, Hey! I cried myself to sleep meditating on you for months....won't a little guilt get you to take your eyes off that mare.......Bobby! this is a genuine Stud Muffin and a greentop organic baby carrot here in my hand, I got a whole bag of 'em, now come over to the rail, Puhleeeeeeeze!

    Posted by: Terry Lilly at August 17, 2006 6:11 AM

    Good night, you east coasters and middle westerners, good morning UK, and Alex somewhere in there getting ready to get up and go watch foxes and sunrises...

    I have yet to read the full transcript of today's historic Dr. R chat, but the segments above certainly confirm that "wicked smart" is not confined to Bobby! How fortunate in an upside down world that "presence of greatness" would converge at NBC! The question is, who's the lucky one here? Does Dr. R get to go home, have a massage, lie down and eat from a golden bowl? Scratchies later?

    Enough of our two beauties. Sweet dreams, boys.

    Our local news here in Oakland, CA, just did a feature on Lost in the Fog, who - in spite of being name for a Florida fog - raced here in the Bay area where the fog often comes directly in through the Golden Gate, across the Bay, and over Golden Gate fields and up into our local Berkeley and Oakland hills. To me, he was our own local hero, and we are heartbroken. His owner is a wonderful man who would never have knowingly raced him with this invasive ailment. The Bay area has always been proud of Lost in the Fog, and I hope a way will be found to allow his connections to receive our prayers and best wishes. We only have to look at the miracle of Barbaro to understand the power of focused spiritual energy and healing prayer.

    Thank you all for another day (I can blindly say after sitting here reading posts for hours after I arrived home) of humor, grief, passion, love, admiration, compassion - I don't have to post because you've said it all. I'm off to light more candles.

    Bless the beasts, one and all. Thank you, Barbaro.

    Peace,

    Shelley in CA


    Posted by: Shelley in CA at August 17, 2006 6:18 AM

    Hey Sally,
    Besides the fact that you are questioning a SURGEON/SPECIALIST who has decades of experience treating horses and other large animals, you would probably be taken a lot more seriously if you would learn to use punctuation and spacing in your posts so that they were legible to the readership here. I am sure the Jackson's have everything under control, if they acted like a large percentage of the owners out there, Barbaro probably wouldn't be around to be walking at all right now. Sally, horses are not meant to stand in a stall all day or be hanging in a sling. They need to graze, sunshine, stimulation. How would you feel if he got bored and kicked his stall with his bad foundered leg, cause he had been couped up for months on end? duh....Let the experts do their thing. You keep praying and practice that punctuation and grammer now, ya hear!

    Posted by: holy cow at August 17, 2006 7:02 AM

    Holy Cow?
    you are one of the reasons this comment site gets shut down.
    Are you telling us something we DON'T know?
    Ya hear?
    Mish, I am excited for you. Hate to put this on a comment where I needed to say something to a butt, but am so glad that the memory of Ruffian is taking you higher. She was, the most beautiful horse I have seen. Ever.
    Susan
    Believe in our Bobby

    Posted by: SusanW at August 17, 2006 8:17 AM

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