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    Barbaro Updates: 67

    updates are now here.

    Update 609: A report from Kennett Florist (timestamp: 6:36pm):

    Afternoon Everyone,

    All is quiet this afternoon. The town hall meeting that was scheduled for this morning that we were going to bring treats for was postponed. We did bring some treats for the staff and our beloved boy. I'm still a little gun shy around those darn green tops. The stitches come out today!! LOL
    The carrots were heading right up to Barbaro.

    Anyway, also wanted to let you know we're planning a trip to Elkton, MD next Tuesday, September 12. It's just an FYI. Thanks again for all your calls and emails!

    WE BELIEVE!!

    Martine posted in the comments a conversation she had with the Fog's owner (timestamp 9:10 pm):

    I had a nice conversation yesterday with Lost in the Fog's owner, Harry Aleo. Mr. Aleo is a very sweet man who took time -- at a time when things are obviously quite hectic -- to talk about the Fog and what a fighter is! Mr. Aleo was gracious and touched by the interest of others in LITF. Great guy, great horse. Best wishes to both of them!

    Anyone that reads the comments below today can be nothing but impressed with everyones efforts for tomorrow's vote. Amazing. Vigil tonight, 7pm, east coast time.

    Update 608: Barbaro remains comfortable. This took a while today, but Peter did just call (3:10 pm). He had Barbaro out grazing for 15 - 20 minutes, no problems at all. It was the first time Peter had grazed him so that was good!

    Update 607: Still no Barbaro update, but just got off the phone with Peter. He is going over to visit this afternoon. Michael asked him to take Bobby out to graze, so I plan to get an update later from Peter.

    Update 606: Still no morning report for Barbaro. I spoke to Barclay Tagg to get updates on Showing Up and Funny Cide. Showing up shedrowed today, which is very typical the day after a work. They all remain pleased with him going into the Man o' War on saturday. Funny Cide did his first bit of exercise since the Woodward on saturday. He jogged a mile. He felt good, the rider was very happy with the way he was moving, so at this stage he does not appear to have suffered any ill effects from his Woodward race.

    The Thoroughbred Times has this article on the vote for tomorrow: Close vote predicted on horse slaughter bill, excerpt:

    "I think it's changing by the moment," said Charles Stenholm, who was the ranking Democrat on the House Agriculture Committee for six years. "It's going to be a very close vote. There's no question about that."

    Update 605: Saw Michael Matz going on to the woodchip track for my first set this morning. He let me know that for the next few days he'll have to provide me evening reports from his visit with Barbaro the night before as Dr. Richardson is away at a seminar for a few days. Michael's evening report from last night (tuesday) is that Bobby was comfortable and all remains well. He visited about 8pm.
    For whatever reason, I forgot one of my gloves this morning...my left hand glove. This is the hand that holds on to everything (neck strap, mane, and reins). So this might be a problem! But we survived the first set intact. And now about to get on Chappy. I will endeavour to post a report on Barbaro later today as I am able.
    updated wednesday 6:55am

    Update 604: Kennett Florist's report of their NBC visit yesterday (timestamp 1:03pm):

    So glad to be back today!! There was so much to catch up with that I never got a chance to post until late tonight. It was so nice to be back at NBC today. (Good grief, what will I do when Barbaro goes home?) We welcomed everyone back from their long weekend with pizza and salad for lunch. Everyone expressed their gratitude for your kindness. We brought up a big basket of carrots and pears for the big guy! I can imagine he was wondering where his usual daily delivery of green tops was... "OK, I get that they don't deliver on Sundays, but what's with this long weekend thing?" All kidding aside, when I asked about Barbaro, Iwas told that he had a really good weekend.

    Alie went back up later with a special delivery for a special friend, some apples, carrots and treats for the blood donor horses, and some other treats for the two legged beasts. I got to make a trip to Fair Hill, with goodies for Michael Matz, Peter, Alex, Tim and Dr Anderson.

    Again, thank you all for everything you do... the candles, prayers, tributes, poems, jokes, etc. It truly is nice to be HOME!

    WE BELIEVE!!

    Having bolted out of Fair Hill early yesterday (drenched) I am now excited to return!

    Miraculous Miss is back in the entries, 11th race at Delaware Park on saturday. It has been a long road to get her back after the Acorn gate incident. I will be going over to Delaware Park, it is a great days racing altogether saturday.

    Bluegrass Cat is adapting to his new life on a farm: Bluegrass Cat adapts to life off the track, relevant excerpt:

    The son of Storm Cat (the Kentucky Derby runner-up and winner of $1.8 million) was happily bedded down in his new home, munching hay, when I paid a visit this past week.

    He turned to the door and seemed happy to see people. No doubt the transition from Todd Pletcher's busy racing stable to being the only horse inside the barn during the day has taken some adjusting on Bluegrass Cat's part.

    He'll get 30 days in the stall while healing begins on the non-displaced fracture of his right hind pastern. He will not need surgery.

    After the stall rest will come 30 days of walking for exercise. For now, he's wearing a thick bandage wrapped around his leg to protect the fracture.

    Finally one day to go for the anti horse-slaughter bill. We will have a vigil tonight, 7 pm (east coast time) for the passing of the bill. A list has been compiled of those not on board with the bill: List of Reps that are NOT for the bill. And we have this lovely poem: My Poem and Plea for HR503:

    Help me find the words, Dear Lord, to reach the heart of man
    That each will hear this message and will clearly understand.
    To some, it may be humble prayer for those who can not pray
    To others, a voice of wisdom that can end unspoken pain.

    Each and every person bears a gift to stop this crime
    All were born and living just to be here at this time.
    It doesn't matter who you are or where you've stood before
    An open heart is all you need to close this fateful door.

    Time is of the essence lest another thousand fall
    In excruciating slaughter, born of greed and hidden gall.
    Captive bolt and bleeding while the others watch in fear
    Sold for wealthy foreign appetites, when will Our Country hear?

    America's companion who has carried her so far
    Across the plains in covered wagons, homestead bound, to farm.
    Express mail was a pony, through rain, through sleet, through snow
    Throughout this nation's history are hoof prints leading home.

    The cowboy's friend and livelyhood, his song beneath the stars
    All the pretty horses prance through childhood dreams and hearts.
    The bloodhorse is bred and trained to bear our triple crown
    An artist gift is born where mare and foal are bedded down.

    Please let these words and images move each of us to stand!
    It is our duty and our right as stewards in this Land.
    Call and write your congressmen on HR503
    Let the USA shine proud again from sea to shining sea.

    Comments

    Good morning Bobby & everyone! I hope another good night was had by you, Bobby, as well as another great day ahead! Your candle as well as Fog's will be lit as always is every day!

    What a heart-wrenching poem. Thanks for posting the list of reps not supporting this bill, Alex, I have made a very good note of those who will never have my support when they are seeking re-election.

    Have a good day everyone, and I hope Bobby gets to see some sunshine to get outside today, enough with the rain!

    Posted by: Ruth Ann at September 6, 2006 9:21 AM

    Thank you Alex for all the great reading material. It'a always enjoyable to read the Kennett Florist report too. It's the next best thing to being there. Like you, they do such a great job of describing the scene.

    Let's pray that Miraculous Miss is ready for the gate again.

    Also - that the vote tomorrow finally closes these places forever.

    re: the poem - just a line or two was enough to bring me to sobs.

    Good morning Barbaro family!!!

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 6, 2006 9:26 AM

    Alex, wow, you are up early!

    Thanks for the beautiful poem.

    Hoping Bobby had ACN and Fog has a painfree day filled with healing.

    I got my Hannity comments in on the end of update 66.

    Good luck to everyone calling today!

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 6, 2006 9:42 AM

    Glad to hear Barbaro is doing okay, check on him everyday to see how he is. Everybody is doing a great job with him.

    Our thoughts and prays are with Lost In The Fog as well and all other injured horses.

    Love and kisses Barbaro and Fog

    From Myra & Madalaine, across the ocean in the
    U.K.

    Posted by: MYRA & MADALAINE at September 6, 2006 9:50 AM

    Goodmorning Everyone! Beautiful poem, thanks!

    I,m glad the blood donor horses were given a treat, they are life savers! That was very thoughtful. Everyone have a good day! Cindy a

    Posted by: cindy a at September 6, 2006 10:24 AM

    Good morning everyone-

    ***National Call In Day***
    Call your congressman about HR 503, last chance
    before they vote...

    See "HR 503 phone campaign" in the Anti Slaughter Issues folder in the forum

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/timwoolley/messages?msg=212.1

    Thanks everyone!
    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 10:30 AM

    Good morning everyone....esp. Barbaro. Glad to hear you had a good weekend, and that the NBC staff enjoyed their lunch. Love reading those reports; it's the best thing next to actaully being there. And love your morning reports, Alex. Hope the weather is better for you today:)Have a great day everyone.

    Posted by: Joyce Currie at September 6, 2006 10:52 AM

    GOOD MORNING BOBBY GLAD TO HEAR YOU HAD ANOTHER GOOD NIGHT. YOU ARE SUCH A GOOD BOY AND EVERYONE REALLY MISSED NOT SEEING YOUR UPDATED PICTURES. HOPE EVERYTHING GETS BACK TO MORE PICTURES AND VIDEOS. YOU ARE SUCH A PRETTY BOY. REMEMBER WE LOVE YOU VERY MUCH AND HOPE YOU HAVE ANOTHER GREAT DAY.

    LOVE KATHY

    Posted by: KATHY - 8YRS at September 6, 2006 11:11 AM

    ATTENTION ALL TEXANS:


    These are the Texas reps who are not on board with HR503:

    Barton, Bonilla, Brady, Carter, Conaway, Cuellar, Culbeson, Delay, Edward, Granger, Hensarling, Hinojosa, Sam Johnson, Mrchant, Neugebauer, Reyes, Sessions, Smith, Thornberry

    Please call and/or fax their offices today. Get this dirty little secret out of Texas.

    Posted by: Patty in Dallas at September 6, 2006 11:11 AM

    'morning, Alex,
    ' morning, y'all

    thanks for the update- it's great that he's doing well enough that Dr. R. feels comfortable leaving for a day or three at a time- while I miss the early updates right along with everyone else when a key member of Team Barbaro goes somewhere, it's an encouraging sign.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 11:19 AM

    Patty in Dallas,
    you mean Ortis is finally on board?
    Way cool, if he is- he was very non-committal when I wrote!

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 11:24 AM

    Good morning barbaromaniacs! Alex, hang on tight this morning without your glove! I had to chuckle - I am ALWAYS forgetting the my most important accessories. Yesterday I got halfway to soccer practice without the ball. Ha. After work this morning I'm planning on faxing, emailing calling, etc. the congressmen from my state (MO) not on board with HR503. Happy to hear about Bobby's good night and Alex, thanks for letting us know that the updates will be in the evenings so we don't all start hyperventilating this morning!

    Posted by: Sheila at September 6, 2006 11:25 AM

    Good morning, all!

    Alex, thanks for the update. So glad for our Bobby, and hoping for a good, healing day for The Fog.

    ######
    NANCY IN CT

    >

    Very funny visual :) Check out my note to you at the end of update 66...

    I'm going to send another email to Hannity, I'm so, uh, aggravated...

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 6, 2006 11:29 AM

    ######
    NANCY IN CT

    Darn it, I copied your quote but it didn't work: it was the one about Bobby having bags under his eyes from using the puter too much ;)

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 6, 2006 11:30 AM

    Hiya, Bobbey! Nice to know that Michael M. will be keeping watch while Dr. Dean R. is away at his conference. You must wonder where your surgeon has gone away to again. Suounds like you and the blood donor horses received some goodies yesterday from the florist. Have a great day and may the sunshine return for you, sweet prince! Hugs, pets, & "scratches" from your pals in CT - Robyn, Brent, & Nikita

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at September 6, 2006 11:31 AM

    The candles are under 1000. Let's not get too comfortable with Barbaro's progress, please go light one today. Thanks.

    Posted by: Jean at September 6, 2006 11:45 AM

    Good morning everyone.
    Barbaro, so glad you had ACN.Keep up the good work.

    Thank you Alex for the updates.

    Prayer going out for Lost in the Fog, God Bless!

    Prayers for Barbaro and love, keep healing my sweet boy.

    Thank to Dr.R. and his staff, and keep up the good word.

    Have a great day everyone.

    BELIEVE IN MIRACLES
    BELIEVE IN BARBARO

    Carol

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at September 6, 2006 11:47 AM

    THANKS ALEX FOR THE GOOD REPORTS. BARBARO WILL MISS DR. R . KEEP GETTING WELL BARBARO, WE LOVE YOU.
    BETTY

    Posted by: BETTY FORD at September 6, 2006 11:47 AM

    RE: horse Slaughterhouses in Texas

    Two of the three slaughter houses in the US are in Texas. One is in Kaufman and is called Dallas Crown. The other is in Fort Worth and is called Beltex Corp. How dare they use use our city and state in their names? I am appauled and outraged.

    If you live is Texas, please get involved in stopping the slaughter of our horses.

    By the way, the third one is in Dekalb, Illinois, so you Illinoisans get going, too!!

    Posted by: Patty in Dallas at September 6, 2006 11:49 AM

    Good Moring Alex..hope you survived your absent glove. It's going to be a long wait 'til evening for the reports...but I understand.

    Bobby ....good thoughts and prayers going your way..so many happy reports are progressing for you day by day ....hooray!!!!!

    LITF shrink those tumors....I'm praying for you every night sweet guy!
    #########
    Watched Hannity and Colmes last night and am disappointed in his attitude and flippant remark which was very brief towards horse slaughter in US. He was one of my favorites. Perhaps he should be enlightened. I think I'll send him my opinion of this today!

    Can anyone tell me what the prognosis is on Special? Haven't heard anything and wondered if she is getting better or worse?????

    Have a great day Maniacs and patience for the reports at night. Love you all.

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 6, 2006 12:16 PM

    Good Morning Barbaro! Hope you had a restful night and are shaking off the hay and greeting the morning!

    I will be calling and faxing the Nebraska congresspeople about HR503 today - again.

    Have a great day Barbaromanics!

    Linda R

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at September 6, 2006 12:22 PM

    Good morning Barbaro. What a great report on you the last couple of days. You are really getting better. Keep up the good and hard work. we love you. Alex thank you hope you enjoy your treats you deserve them.

    Posted by: jane at September 6, 2006 12:26 PM

    Good Morning Barbaro. You are the light of my life.

    Will be contacting NC Reps again today Re HR503. Pray I can be pursuasive.

    Posted by: laura, nc at September 6, 2006 12:32 PM

    Good morning sweet Barbaro, so glad to hear of Michael's visits and treats brought by Rachel. Grow strong in bone and hoof. Mend, Barbaro, mend.

    Thank you Alex for posting that beautiful and timely poem. I wish every congressman could read it. What a reminder of what the horse's place in our country's history is.

    Prayers for LITF and Mike Rea.

    Hang in there TurnTo. Believe in the power of prayer.

    ShelleyA. Hope you dry out and get some rest. You are the best!!!!

    Have a wonderful day, everyone!! Make those phone calls!!!!!

    rosemary

    Posted by: Rosemary at September 6, 2006 12:40 PM

    Wow, the following article is graphic so please be careful. I wonder if we could contact the city officials and let them know the fight which is being done in DC, etc...if someone has already done this, please disregard this, however, it is clear that even the residents and city officials there do NOT want this plant...

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 6, 2006 12:40 PM

    Here is the article:

    http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2005-09-01/news/news.html

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 6, 2006 12:41 PM

    Dont' forget to light candles for Bobby, Foggy and Mike - Bobby is under 1000 !

    Thanks to Tim & Alex for the site, updates & forums

    Posted by: steve at September 6, 2006 12:43 PM

    ######

    I should have known that jerk Kolbe (who has never, ever represented me ONCE in all the years he's been my "representative") would be for killing horses. It's all corporate with him. His big thing? Trying to get rid of the penny. This is where this man puts his energy.

    I'll call again. I just hope I'll keep a civil tongue in my head. The only good thing - he's retiring this year. Hallelujiah!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 12:46 PM

    DEAR ALEX,
    fleet of mind ,hands and feet..,
    SIZE,TEXURTE, WHAT KIND OF GLOVES DO YOU USE?
    may your monring breezes get done effortlessly..and thank you for the update on the barbaro schedule..
    i am about to get on th phone for a few hours now and tthank everyone for their beautiful poetry and prayers and foresight..
    kennet florists..alie and all the angels that spread the good..
    too bad we couldnt send hot fudge sundaes to congress from kennet square.
    i wonder how much that would cost?
    i am sure the carrot brigade is goign to take care of business up there today..and i hope to god, we will be celebraitng..
    oh wonderful barbaro
    , you ,who teach me so much about making bridges, hanging tough and keeping the heart and soul together, as one..upwards.,.through all manner of challenges..
    may you have a wonderful day and that the sun touch your back.
    .bless everyone
    shelley --that all goes well up there where there is goodness in the corners of all the hot air and fear and maniipulation..there is a place for concerned love and vision.
    thank you, thank you
    keep all safe.
    martita

    Posted by: marttta goshen at September 6, 2006 12:46 PM

    Good Morning BARBARO - hope you had had a nice restful night. Hope you have a great day - hope someone is taking you outside! I'll check in on you later. XXOO and SCRACTCHIES

    Any news on Foggy????

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 12:46 PM

    Any news on Special?

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 6, 2006 12:51 PM

    Another article regarding how some of these horses are obtained: This has to STOP.

    http://www.dallasobserver.com/Issues/2006-01-19/news/news2.html

    ShelleyA: THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTs IN DC AND BEYOND. Girl, I miss talking with you and have been out of the loop for a while!

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 6, 2006 12:51 PM

    Good morning HANDSOME!!! So glad you are doing so well. You keep doing what the doctors tell you and get a few nips in for good measure!

    LOVE YOU B!!!!

    Prayers to LITF....love you bunches!

    Welcome back Rachel!!!

    Karen - TN

    Posted by: Karen at September 6, 2006 12:51 PM

    Good morning Barbaro, ACN, what good news to start my day with! Love you beautiful boy!

    Posted by: Sue H at September 6, 2006 1:00 PM

    Good Morning Everybody,
    ACN what great news about the Great Barbaro.

    Alex no gloves, at that hour I would forget too.

    Good Morning Beautiful Barbaro,
    I am so happy you had another good day and night. You amaze me, your spirit is so strong, like you are. Have a good day get some grazing in and enjoy the sun shine on your back.
    Love you! MUAH

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 1:11 PM

    Thank you Alex for the early update. With the wet weather and no glove...you are probably gonna have blisters...ouch...

    Evening updates will be nice while we are all here finding out the latest on HR 503, will be nice to hear from Bobby later in the evening.

    Precious Bobby, so glad to hear you had a comfortable night....we are gonna be busy here for the next couple of days. I love you and will keep my eye on you...have fun grazing today.

    Sweet Warrior Foggy, hope you had a comfortable night and hope you are shrinking the nasty tumors. I will keep my eye on you also, I love you.

    You two boys inspire me and keep me strong.

    ####
    David...your post last night about the picture of Bobby made me cry....just for the split second thinking his cast was off and grazing....take it as a sign that it will be the picture we will be seeing soon.

    Shelley A....thanks so much for the list of non-sponsors....I will make more calls today.

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 6, 2006 1:13 PM

    ****
    Reminder everyone to be polite on the telephone re urging the passage of H.R. 503. The excuse that the reps on the fence want to use is that we are a bunch of hysterical animal rights nuts. Let's not give them the chance to use that accusation.

    Thanks.
    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 6, 2006 1:14 PM

    Good Morning, Team Barbaro!

    Well, my e-mail to Mr. Hannitty didn't get thru...he "didn't like" me. Oh well. That speaks volumes to me right there. Aside from making what I thought were civil remarks was an invite to come to this website and see the Barbaro Effect for himself. I pity him that he can't face the results of his words.

    Bobby, am glad to hear you are having ACN and ACD. The sun is trying to come out here in Chester County...hopefully you should be able to graze today. Shine on you crazy diamond.

    LITF, you are always in my prayers and meditations, my Long Time Sun.

    Shelley, I bet you have tons of stories to tell us. Do tell...:)

    Take care, everybody.

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at September 6, 2006 1:16 PM

    Morning, Barbaro!! Thank you Lord, for ACN! You have a good day, big boy, get some grazing time in and be a good boy out there, too. Your favorite Doc is out of town for a few days, but don't fret, he'll be back, I'm sure he'll bring you something!

    God bless Barbaro, make his bones strong, make him healthier every day.

    God bless Foggy, let the chemo help make the tumors shrink.

    God's blessings to you Shelley....Keep up the good fight for us..

    Have a great day everyone!

    Posted by: Sue W. at September 6, 2006 1:23 PM

    cannot sleep. anxious for news of our Bobby. I am always happy to hear ACN and seem to need to hear it now. I guess I should be awake it is 8:15 after all, but I could not sleep last night either.

    Barbaro, I think you are feeling frisky with all the cooler weather you have been having up north. It is still hot here, not in the 100's any more, but still hot, coller at night though. I hope you get to enjoy all the carrots and pears, peppermints and all your little heart desires. I know you are still bored, I hope they try to keep your active mind occupied,my big ole boy. I love you very much, and am thinking of you always.

    Foggy, I am also thinking of you dear one. I am hoping you are feeling alright, even though I know this is a long grueling process for you and all your people. Good luck with everything precious one.

    Glad to hear about Miraculous Miss, she is such a pretty little thing, happy she is back to her old self.Good luck to her and all connections.

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at September 6, 2006 1:25 PM

    Good morning Sunshine!

    Hope you had a great yesterday followed by an even better today.

    Believe in Miracles
    Believe in Barbaro

    Posted by: lisa morin at September 6, 2006 1:28 PM

    Lisa Morin-I have been unavailable all August(sick), what became of the bracelets/magnets?

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at September 6, 2006 1:31 PM

    Just called Tim Murphy's (PA) office again.
    Fellow Pennsylvanians, please click the link to the opposed list up top and find out who your congress person is and call them.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 1:32 PM

    Good morning Barbaro glad you had a comfortable night - may God continue to heal you and make your bones stronger each day. So great to hear you are doing so well. You're doing great Barbaro! LITF keep strong - God's healing you.

    #######
    I'll be calling my reps in PA today who are against HR 503 for sure - this all has to end - it's truly a disservice to every horse that has to go through this and frankly it's an abomination from a human and animal rights perspective. How anyone can do this to these wonderful animals is certainly beyond me.

    #######
    Good morning everyone and I just wanted to take the time to thank you all so much for your prayers for us and thoughts about Kansas - it truly warms the heart and they are all deeply and truly appreciated. Erin was touched at your prayers and concerns and she asked me to thank you all very much from the bottom of her heart.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 1:33 PM

    P.S. be as nice as pie on the phone!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 1:33 PM

    Alex, as always, many thanks for all your hard work and all the updates. It was good to hear about BGC.

    Barbaro, Godspeed to health. You are amazing big boy. Be good, eat all your carrots and enjoy the day outside today.

    Welcome back Rachel and Alie, thanks for your updates too. You guys make us feel like we are there.

    Barbaro Nation, have a great day.

    Posted by: Louise in Ohio at September 6, 2006 1:36 PM

    ######
    Hi there Dora!

    Nice to "see" you again!

    No word on the bracelets, unfortunately. With all the incredibly important things going on for Mr & Mrs Jackson, this is not surprising.

    You may be interested in knowing that the Jacksons have trademarked Barbaro's name (yeah for them!), so to use his name without express permission (which we would NEVER do) would result in legal action. Yikes!

    So, sorry. Wish I had better news.

    Believe in Miracles
    Believe in Barbaro

    Posted by: lisa morin at September 6, 2006 1:42 PM

    Good morning Sunshine! Hope you had a comfy nihgt. Be good and do everything the drs. and nurses ask you to do.

    All have a good day!

    Calling my reps now.

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 6, 2006 1:43 PM


    Good morning, Barbaro,and Everyone,

    Just checking in for the update, and to remind EVERYONE that this is call day. Even if you can't commit time to making several calls, try to make even just one or two. Your single call could be the "seed" that takes root in the heart of someone who has the power of the vote.

    Also, please pray, that God will bless our efforts on behalf of the voiceless innocents. THANK Him in advance for a just and merciful outcome. We, Barbaro, Lost in the Fog, and horses all over this land are in His hands.

    Have a wonderful day.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 1:46 PM

    Lisa Morin-Thanks so much for the info. I am deeply saddened that we cannot have these, but maybe later...It is extremely unfortunate, but I know we have to do what is proper and this is the way to go. I appreciate you responding to me so quickly. I am sooo glad to be back in the loop with you guys and to know how Barbaro is doing, you will never know how I was pulling my hair out when I could not get no info from anyone---UGH!!!!!!

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at September 6, 2006 1:48 PM

    Several people have written to me since yesterday (the first, a rather nasty note, which included some annoying attachments), and I have been asked by each to respond. I did so, each time, but each server refused my response. I then posted my response to the Chat Room, as the first person had suggested. I tend to *accept* what otherwise we might agree are social anomalies from internet types, since, as you might be able to tell from my letter, these breaches, though serious, in social behavior are among *the least* of what I -and my country, US, and its leadership- have had to deal with, for the last many years. I don't do Chat Rooms.
    Thank you for your notes. Best wishes, †KAWilson

    Posted by: Kathleen A. Wilson at September 6, 2006 1:52 PM

    I am still praying for Barbaro and Lost In The Fog. May each horse be totally healed and live out their lives in total peace and harmony. Thank you so much for the daily updates. Is it possible for you to put a picture of "Chappy" on the web site. I see his name mentioned quite often.

    Posted by: dar covert at September 6, 2006 1:52 PM

    This was in Thoroughbred Times;

    Close vote predicted on horse slaughter bill


    A former Congressman from Texas predicted a close vote on Thursday in the House of Representatives on H.R. 503, a bill that permanently would ban the slaughter of horses for human consumption.

    "I think it's changing by the moment," said Charles Stenholm, who was the ranking Democrat on the House Agriculture Committee for six years. "It's going to be a very close vote. There's no question about that."

    Stenholm and Matt Brockman, the executive vice-president of the Texas Southwestern Cattle Raisers Association, spoke on a teleconference on Tuesday in opposition of the measure, which is sponsored by Representative John Sweeney (R-New York).

    Earlier Tuesday, a rally to generate support was held on Capitol Hill.

    "The American public is overwhelmingly opposed to the slaughter of horses for human consumption," Representative Ed Whitfield (R-Kentucky) said. "After years of enduring delays, Congress finally has the opportunity to stop the slaughter of horses. I urge my colleagues to support H.R. 503 and end this cruel and brutal practice once and for all."

    The measure currently has 203 co-sponsors—15 short of the number needed to guarantee passage. Stenholm expects those numbers to fluctuate in the hours leading up to the vote on the bill, which amends the Horse Protection Act to prohibit the shipping, purchasing, selling, delivering, or receiving of horses to be slaughtered for human consumption.

    "I learned a long time ago—in my 26 years in Congress—that I never announce my vote count particularly when we know we've had an uphill fight," Stenholm said. "I'm just going to say, based on our own count and the agricultural groups that are working this very, very hard now, we're making substantial progress and believe we will have the votes to defeat H.R. 503."

    Stenholm represents the Horse Welfare Coalition, which opposes the legislation because of long-range concerns about forcing three plants to close that, according to the National Horse Protection Coalition website, slaughtered more than 90,000 horses last year. The plants are located in Fort Worth and Kaufman, Texas, and DeKalb, Illinois.

    "It is unconscionable that for decades, we have supported a practice that the American public is overwhelmingly opposed to," Sweeney said. "This is an industry that exists only outside the borders of the United States, where horsemeat is consumed as a delicacy. The practice of horse slaughter is a contradiction to our culture, history, and economy. The time has come for it to end."

    Sweeney's version of the bill was discharged from the House of Representative's Energy and Rules Committee in late July. A second version that included six amendments, ranging from having Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns assume responsibility for all unwanted horses to starting a pilot program that would ban horse slaughter in Kentucky and New York, was favored by the Agricultural Committee, which voted 37-3 not to support the bill.

    The 13-member rules committee will decide what version of the bill will be sent to the House floor.

    Stenholm said he feels "real good about our side of the vote—but we won't know until the votes are counted."

    "Horse slaughter is un-American and completely unacceptable, especially since it is only happening as a means to satisfy the eccentricities of foreign gourmet diners," Representative Nick Rahall (D-West Virginia) said. "The legislation we are considering this week will ensure the decent and humane treatment of these creatures."—Jeff Apel

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 1:53 PM

    HSUS tote board showing just under 6000 calls. Not sure how accurate this is. If you haven't called, please check the Message board to see if your rep is going to support HR503 and make the call. My rep's office was very polite--and very non-commital.

    Also, in searching for French newspapers to write re horse on the menu found info on countries using horses for meat on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat.

    Thought this was interesting--
    A UK Food Standards Agency (FSA) 2003 investigation has revealed that salami and chorizo sometimes contain horse and donkey meat, without this ingredient being listed as legally required. Blechh. Wonder if any of this gets imported. No more Italian salami for me no matter where produced.

    Posted by: Sam I Am at September 6, 2006 1:58 PM

    Good morning baby! So glad you are doing well. ACN best news for my sleepy eyes. Stay strong and heal and grow that hoof. Sending you prayers and good wishes for a beautiful day.

    Thank you ShelleyA for your tireless efforts and keeping us informed and motivated. DONT FORGET TO CALL IN!!!

    Blessings to all!

    Posted by: Mikki and Molly at September 6, 2006 2:01 PM

    Some had asked for Hannity and Colmes email address, here it is (well, Mr. Hannity's email)

    Hannity@foxnews.com

    I sent him a lengthy email in regards to his remarks about horse slaughter, however, in the end, I relayed he could turn this around and help the situation by doing a media investigation in regards the inhumane horese slaughter being done and how thieves are making a profit out of this, etc.......if enough of us write, perhaps he would reconsider this avenue. It would be an excellent topic for FOX news to get involved in for investigative reporting...

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 6, 2006 2:03 PM

    Good Morning Barbaro, Caregivers, Tim and Alex hope you have a blessed day.

    ######
    Hi... Just made my phone against the bill. Thanks for keeping me informed on this very important issue. Now... I will pray!

    Horse Hands Across America!
    Keep the faith!

    Linda Lee
    Boonsboro, Maryland

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 6, 2006 2:08 PM

    As you can see my Chris Byers post, the vote is VERY close. Everyone of us can make a difference by calling today. Your call might just be the one that takes us over the top.

    Remember, Congressman Whitfield told me yesterday that if it doesn't get passed this week, we probably won't have another chance!!

    For those of you that think one person can't make a difference, YOU"RE WRONG. When it's this close, one person CAN make a difference.

    Alex, thanks again for posting this information in the update. Today is really the last chance we have before the vote tomorrow.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 2:10 PM

    Guys, if you send a big email it probably wont go through, because they limit how much room one email can be. It is better to send a short email, or write him snail mail. Its not that he wont read it, his email box at the FoxNews email wont take it because it's too big!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 6, 2006 2:18 PM

    Good Wednesday and keep up the good healing to Barbaro, Horse of Forever, and all of his equine friends...

    To all working on HR 503 from Maid M: If possible, people are even more critical -- and sensitive to being criticised [read: therefore snippy and snarky] than they were yesterday.
    So when calling, interacting, persuading, etc.,
    heed Edie's 01.14 post:
    "Reminder everyone to be polite on the telephone re urging the passage of H.R. 503. The excuse that the reps on the fence want to use is that we are a bunch of hysterical animal rights nuts. Let's not give them the chance to use that accusation."

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at September 6, 2006 2:19 PM

    GOOD MORNING SWEET KING BARBARO!
    Another great update from Alex that you had another comfortable night! Wishing you sunshine and a pain free day today! You continue to remind us of "all that is good in life". God Bless you "B" and God Speed.
    Will check in later as today is a busy day campaigning for ALL your brothers and sisters:-). Please help us with your Horse Whisper Prayer.

    ALEX,
    Thanks again for all you do. You have been an angel for us all. God Bless you.

    SHELLEY A , you are sooooo correct. One person can make that difference today. Good luck everyone!

    Debra, WI

    Posted by: Debra, WI at September 6, 2006 2:19 PM

    #### Shelley in CA - re: candles. You mentioned a malfunction with gratefulness site. I called them this morning - they are not aware and will check. The woman I spoke with said she didn't think it was possible for the candles to go to the wrong group. Meantime (and yes, bb is for Big Brother - can you believe it) will you email me your findings from last night so I can give more information if they want or need it?


    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 2:20 PM

    Alex thank you for the update!!

    Hopefully you wont get on a "lipizzaner" today since you dont have your glove!!!!

    Thank you to Michael for the update also!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 6, 2006 2:20 PM

    Good Morning all.

    Alex, thanks for the update. I wish I would have read it before I left for work so I could have dropped you off some gloves on the way ;)

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at September 6, 2006 2:24 PM

    Good morning Bobby, I'm delighted that your feeling well & happy. Have a great day in the sunshine & I'll catch you later. Love & prayers


    BGCat-I hope you get to enjoy some of those choc. cream filled donuts! Rest, relax, & heal. Bless you & have a great retirement.

    Posted by: Cheryl -- NY at September 6, 2006 2:24 PM

    Does any one know what time the session starts tomorrow where they will vote on HR 503?

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 2:25 PM

    I just called my rep and spoke to her assistant - he took down my message word for word and will pass it on to her. I asked how she planned on voting he said he didn't know.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 2:27 PM

    Good Morning All.

    Just got off the phone with my representative's assistant (Rep. Barrett of S.C.). I was happy to speak my peace regarding HR503. They were very gracious there and seemed to appreciate the call. Let's hope that it will help our horses!

    Good morning Barbaro! I'm so glad you've had so many good days. Let's hope that nasty rain clears out of there so you can go outside today! I bet you don't know how many horses (due to your Barbaro Effect) you'll be saving!

    My prayers for LITF. Count me in for the vigil tonight!

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 6, 2006 2:29 PM

    ALEX: For whatever reason, I forgot one of my gloves this morning...my left hand glove. This is the hand that holds on to everything (neck strap, mane, and reins). So this might be a problem! But we survived the first set intact.>>

    ::GROAN:: Something else to worry about now!
    Hang in there, Sport.. No Lone Ranger exhibitions, if you please..

    And thanks for your report, as always..

    Posted by: Christine at September 6, 2006 2:29 PM

    ShelleyA - chris byres
    "The 13-member rules committee will decide what version of the bill will be sent to the House floor"

    Do we know who these 13 members are?? Shouldn't they be contacted? Or has the version of the bill being voted on already been decided.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 2:31 PM

    ####
    Ryan,
    I haven't been able to spend time reading posts, but what is wrong with Kansas????

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 2:35 PM

    Good Morning Barbaro Family!

    Another good nite for the big guy. You behave yourself while Dr. R is at his seminar...limit that puter time!

    Foggy...keep taking your meds and get strong for us! Barbaro is sending you mental telepathy goodwill messages.

    Love to all and have a fantastic day!!!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 2:37 PM

    I just called Congressman Charles Rangel's (D-NY)office in Washington. I am a life long New Yorker, though not one of his constituents and I made that clear. Said I have always admired him for his work in Civil Rights and asked that he support the bill because it is the moral thing to do.

    The receptionist said his office has gotten many many phone calls and thanked me. Non-committal..

    Posted by: Christine at September 6, 2006 2:38 PM

    Just wrote to the following reps in NC (re: HR503): Coble, Foxx, McHenry and Taylor. Could not reach Hayes and Watt. I could not call any of them as I am at work.

    Has anyone been able to reach any of them via phone?? If not, I will CALL when I can....

    Thanks

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 6, 2006 2:38 PM

    Good morning, beautiful Starshine colt. How happy I am to hear you're doing well. Keep it up, baby. Isn't it nice of your Michael to advise Alex that the updates will be later?

    RE: ANTI SLAUGHTER POEM

    Whoever wrote this, it's lovely. Very eloquent. Thank you.

    BARBARO MANIACS--has anyone else felt all keyed up and full of anticipation the past few days? Going to sleep thinking of getting this legislation passed, waking in the mornings doing a mental countdown for the vote? When I look at the energy and hard work by the Barbaromaniacs, and multiply that by the people working through all the other groups out there, I cannot envision anything other than success.

    ALEX: a billion thanks for all you've done on the anti-slaughter project. We wouldn't have met without you, much less started our political groundswell that is turning into a juggernaut!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 2:39 PM

    Just called all three Illinois reps that were listed as not for the bill...All three assistants graciously took my message, don't know how they will vote..

    Had previously contacted other IL reps, they were all on board..

    Posted by: Sue W. at September 6, 2006 2:46 PM

    Christine from NY. I am not Charles Rangel's constituent either, but I called just like you, same reaction NON-COMMITAL. Also left message for Carolyn Maloney.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 6, 2006 2:52 PM

    Good morning everyone,

    Glad to hear Barbaro is doing well and comfortable.

    All I can think of is the vote tomorrow. It's truly my driving force here and occupying my every thought and action. I'm anxious for the vigil tonight and will be on pins and needles this entire time.

    Take care everyone, have a comfortable day, and let's do all we can today to sway this vote our way.

    Blessings to all,

    Sky

    Posted by: Skyler at September 6, 2006 2:52 PM

    ##

    Thank you Alex for posting the link to the Forum for those representatives not on board with the HR 503 Bill.


    I am REALLY Proud of the members of this site and the forum for making calls, so far over 5,000 calls have been logged. We need to continue the pressure to those government officials to get on board and speak for those that do not have a voice..

    We the BarbaroManiacs, the horse lovers out there are the Voices of The Horses!!!


    Click on my name to also go to the thread listing the names!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 6, 2006 2:54 PM

    ######
    Kathleen A. Wilson, I dont really know what was going on yesterday, but you cant post in chat room. A chat room is for chatting. Whatever you put in there is gone. If no one was there to see it it didnt exist. You need to put it on the message board.

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 6, 2006 2:55 PM

    I know the voting will be close tomorrow, but as of the Library of Congress site (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00503: ) that I found that has the bill listed, there were 203 co-sponsors. While it's not a guarantee that they will vote yes (although if they co-sponsored it you'd think they would), just wanted to pass the info along.
    If we can swing enough to add to the 200, we could get it passed.

    Had a question - I wanna call all the reps in PA that are not in my district who aren't supporting it (Weldon and Micozzie in my district are) but do they always ask for your address to make sure you are in their district when you call? Just curious. Could someone let me know? Thanks so much.

    #######
    Lynn, we lost Kansas on Saturday. :( Erin told me after I knew something was wrong when she called me but she wouldn't tell me, but she eventually did. He was an older horse, however, showed no signs of illness or anything. Was totally out of the blue. The horse was loved by all of us, but had the strongest bond to Erin.

    I told her I had posted on here about it and that everyone was praying and had us in their thoughts and she was so thankful to everyone. Trinity, as Erin tells me, is upset too, as she and Kansas were stablemates/ran together. Erin said she was going to give her some special attention and treats. I won't be able to get there for a few weeks so it was hard not to be there for Erin.

    Ryan

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 3:03 PM

    Thank you God for the miracle of The Fog, and for his right and perfect healing. Guide, inspire and direct those responsible for his care, as Divine Order manifests in every situation concerning The Fog. Let each caregiver see him with love and compassion, and with thoughts of The Fog's highest good, and belief in his healing. Divine Love fills every cell of his body with healing light, and all that does not serve him is now dissolved and dissipated in a right and perfect way. God Bless The Fog, and all who love him.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Fog

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 3:04 PM

    Thank you God for Bobby's right and perfect healing, and for his complete recovery. Thank you God that miracle follows miracle, and wonders never cease.

    Magnificent Steed! Another day closer.

    The Light of God surrounds you
    The Love of God enfolds you
    The Power of God Protects you
    The Presence of God watches over you
    Wherever you are Bobby, God IS.

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 3:07 PM

    Ryan, I am calling all of them anyway in PA!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 3:09 PM

    ####
    Ryan,
    Oh goodness I am sooooo sorry about Kansas. I know you and Erin are heartbroken. It is always hard to lose a beloved member of our family.
    One day we will see all of them at the Rainbow Bridge. I am sure Trinity is very upset too. Lots of kisses and hugs for her from Texas. You and Erin are in my prayers. I know it is hard not being with her right now. Where do you live and where is the farm? I know you mentioned you would be moving there soon.
    God speed
    Lynn

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 3:11 PM

    #######
    I'll do the same then Chris, thanks.

    Do we know who is on the 13-panel subcommittee who decides which version to introduce to the floor?

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 3:11 PM

    Made my calls here in CT, they are with us. Good thing. ;)

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 3:12 PM

    Good morning all,

    I have called those reps in La. who are against HR503. I am not their constituent, but they did listen to me...no comment as to their vote. I certainly hope for the best from them. I have already contacted Boustany.

    God bless you, Bobby. Go Barbaro go.

    Thanks to Alex and Michael Matz for the updates.

    Sally in Louisiana

    Posted by: Sally at September 6, 2006 3:15 PM

    I called all on the PA opposed list and some took my name, others did not as I did say to all except one that I was not in their district but a fellow Pennsylvanian and stressed that it would be a proud day for Pennsylvania if they supported HR 503. Everyone seemed pleasant that I spoke to!

    Keep those calls going folks!
    Sqeaky wheel gets the grease!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 3:19 PM

    ####

    Hi Ryan,

    It is a common practice for the aides to ask for the caller's address because it lets the rep know how many people are interested in a certain topic. Whenever I called to a rep other then my own, I would say so at the beginning of the call. One aide told me he will log the call as a non district caller but it would be logged.

    I agree, it's nail biting time! 203 co sponsors when the House went on recess. Unless someone got to them, we should be able to count on 203 plus some cross overs as noted by Shelley on the discussion board.

    Alex, thanks for the superb updates. I understand about waiting for Barbaro's update for the next few days.

    Glad that Funny Cide is ok. I remember that if the track was off because of bad weather, they would scratch him, while the rain wasn't as severe as here in NY/NJ area, it didn't look like he liked the track.

    Good Morning Mr. B. the reports from yesterday about how you are doing were great. Keep progressing slow and steady.

    Love ya,
    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 6, 2006 3:21 PM

    Sorry guys, I am way behind the 8 ball here. Actually, trying to work vs. having fun with the Barbaro gang on TWR. Sooo...I have missed out on alot of posts regarding the Anti-Slaughter Bill and I want to make calls today. Where are the names posted on here or on the Forum that lists names and numbers??? These awful slaughter houses are in my state and I want them OUT OF TEXAS AND THE U.S.!!!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 3:21 PM

    Just learned that the following are NOT with us from NY. Called them all:

    New York: McHugh; Rangel; Reynolds; Walsh

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 6, 2006 3:22 PM

    Mornin' All!

    Barbaro - another good night for you. YAHOOOOO!

    I am very hungry after reading about all of the goodies delivered to NBC yesterday.

    Rileys Girl - thank you so much for the beautiful poem. We need it today, and we can use it as our prayer. Is there a vigil still on for HR503 tonight?

    I'll call my Rep.Tom Udall here in NM AGAIN! today.

    Posted by: Margie at September 6, 2006 3:23 PM

    I have been hammering todd Akins (MO) office with calls and e-mails and have been getting other people to call him. He also says hes on the fence. All we need is a few votes to sway the right way and we're in! Lets Work It! Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 3:25 PM

    yep, I was asked my name and address when I called, too-
    I hope that my not seeing Ortiz on the non-support lists means that he has decided in favor of the passing of this..

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 3:25 PM

    When I called the IL reps who were on Shelley's list, I was not in their districts either..I wasn't sure what would happen...one asked if I wanted to give my address and I said No, the other two asked for a name and address, I gave them my name and town in IL...Didn't seem to matter either way, so I would say to just call them!

    Posted by: Sue W. at September 6, 2006 3:27 PM

    Lynn, go to the top here and click on the link Alex put in on "reps not for the bill" right above the horse slaughter poem and find your stse - write down the names and the go to this site I am listing below here , click on representatives and you can look up any rep , go to their site and click on cotact. I have been calling the Washington DC offices.

    http://www.compassionindex.org/sitemap.htm

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 3:27 PM

    Lynn in Austin

    Here are TX reps that are not on board.

    Texas: Barton; Bonilla; Brady; Carter; Conaway; Cuellar; Culberson; Delay; Edwards; Granger; Hensarling; Hinojosa; Sam Johnson; Marchant; Neugebauer; Reyes; Sessions; Smith; Thornberry

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 3:27 PM

    Hey Lynn- Ill meet you at Beltex and we could set all those horses Free! Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 3:27 PM

    ########

    Lynn - thank you so much for your thoughts and prayers they are truly appreciated. I live in PA and Erin and her family's farm is in Saskatchewan, Canada (above Montana). Kansas lives on in our hearts and in the lives of his offspring.

    He was truly an amazing horse, saving Erin's life twice, once from a bear and another when Erin was out in the field with him on a lake on their property and she had passed out and Kansas ran back to her dad at the barn and whinnied and jumped until he followed Kansas to Erin. The doctors said Erin wouldn't have made it if not for Kansas. Erin and Kansas had such a bond. Just wanted to share that with you. (sorry for those who read this previously)

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 3:30 PM

    Texas folks have a lot of calls to make - can we say election year?

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 3:31 PM

    Carrot People:

    If Barbaro's name is trademarked, then we have to start calling ourselves something without the name 'Barbaro' in it.

    Is it time for a contest? The whole group of us should get on a talk show or morning show someday, to push our humanity towards horses, and this site, and Alex. What has gone on here should not go unnoticed.

    Posted by: Margie at September 6, 2006 3:31 PM

    Rangel? That surprises me.

    They've all got their fingers in the pie, don't they? Money, money, money.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 3:33 PM

    Ryan,

    Very sorry to hear of your loss. Our prayers are with you.

    And a special thanks for still helping with HR503 during this difficult time for you. I know it's not easy to think of others when you are suffering your own loss.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 3:34 PM

    My rep, Mary Bono is on board but I noticed of the California reps not on board, Cordoza, from the Sacramento area is a hipocrit. A few years back my employers at the time were approached by his office to host a fund raiser at their horse ranch. They breed & race horses and graciously agreed to his wishes. He then enjoyed a day of racing at Del Mar.

    Can I, a non-constituent call his office?

    Shelly A.......you are amazing. We (I am speaking for The Nation) are soooooooooooo proud of you!

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 3:34 PM

    RO wrote: I am not Charles Rangel's constituent either, but I called just like you, same reaction NON-COMMITAL. Also left message for Carolyn Maloney.

    I can't figure out why "Charlie" Rangel would be against the bill. Perhaps there are minorities working in the killing plants and he's concerned about their livelihoods? That's understandable, but shortsighted. It's not good for the soul to be working in such places. The people can find jobs - real jobs - that are productive, fulfilling and beneficial.

    Posted by: Christine at September 6, 2006 3:35 PM

    I still like Horse Hands Across America for us.

    I used that in DC!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 3:36 PM

    taxation without *representation*.

    hm, wonder where I've heard that before...

    it's pretty sad to see how many believe that lining their own pockets and agendas is all there is to life.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 3:36 PM

    Cathy, call - as long as you live in the state you can call any of the House reps as a concerned citizen of the state. Just be nice as pie!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 3:40 PM

    #######
    ShelleyA,

    Thank you for your thoughts and prayers. I wouldn't let this thing go with not helping in some way - couldn't think of any other way to even try to repay the joy horses bring to us or to pay tribute to Barbaro, LITF, Secretariat, Galliant Secret, Ruffian, Ferdinand, Kansas and all horses and all animals that love us unconditionally. :)

    And Shelley, thank you so very much for all you have and are doing and all the information you relayed to us so we could help you to get it through and raise awareness. It's truly appreciated. :)

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 3:41 PM

    You guys have to remember that The AQHA is in TX. They have a lot of money and they support slaughter. I am ashamed as a member of that organization to think that maybe some of my money is helping that campaign. Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 3:42 PM

    I just got my Mail man to Call! Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 3:45 PM

    Jen,
    it's a real concern- each member's fees contribute to the AQHA organization itself, which, in turn, supports the slaughter.

    Were I in your shoes (and granted, I'm not), I would probably withdraw my membership until or unless they modified their stand on this.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 3:45 PM


    Jen :
    I heard that Quarter horses make up the bulk of the horses that end up in slaughter pens.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 3:45 PM

    Alex,

    Thanks for posting the info about tonight's vigil!!

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 6, 2006 3:46 PM

    Okay called and wrote Congressman Smith who is in my district in Texas. He is opposed to the bill.
    I am so disgusted to see the number of Texas Congressman against the bill. Shame on them..it is all about money. I am also ashamed that the AQHA based in Texas supports anti-slaughter. I sure as hell bet that the majority of their members do not know that. APHA is also based here. I wonder were their stand is on this matter?

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 3:52 PM

    ###############
    When I called my representative I used the following wording. It is suggested from the following website https://community.hsus.org/campaign/FED_2006_horses_cosponsorhouse6

    "I am a constituent and I am calling to ask that my Representative please protect American horses from slaughter and support H.R. 503, the Horse Slaughter Prevention Act. I also urge you to oppose any amendments to H.R. 503. I am very concerned about American horses and I don't want them slaughtered."

    The gentlemen that took the message was very polite. No anger on either side.

    Hope this helps.

    Horse Hands Across America!
    Keep the Faith!

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 6, 2006 3:54 PM

    ############
    Margie/ Carrot People:

    Since we are not seeking to sell anything, I'd be very surprised if the Jacksons denied us the use of Barbaro in our group name [and we will have had a good track record of supporting some of their pet causes by the time it comes up]. But if we should be denied, I'd suggest the "Tim Woolley Forum" group if Tim and Alex would allow it. /e
    end ############

    Posted by: ElizabethPgh at September 6, 2006 3:55 PM

    I just called Rangel's office in Washington. The woman I talked to said he is FOR HR 503, and against the slaughter of horses.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 3:55 PM

    OK I've got the phone numbers for 15 Reps from California not on board.
    Someone give me a script. I'm in my office and have to be discreet. Would email be just as effective?

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 3:55 PM

    I wouldnt be surprised that quarter horses do make up a lot of the horses slaughtered. They breed several hundred thousand every year. Dont know the exact # but its alot. The TB foal crop is about 37,000 a year, the Aqha is 5 times that. where do these horses go? there are a lot of irresponsible breeders out there. Passing this bill will help curtail that because these people wont have anywhere to dump them. I pointed that out to Todd Akin and invited him to attend a typical sale barn and see what it is all about. Probably wouldnt though, he'd get his shoes dirty! Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 3:56 PM

    Perhaps that's one reason the Jockey Club breeds thoroughbreds the old-fashioned way? AQHA allows, and probably encourages, artificial insemination.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 3:58 PM

    the Paint horse assoc. is on record for supporting slaughter. Jen - As is the Appaloosa horse club.

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 3:58 PM

    #####
    HR 503
    Here is a phone number you can call to get to your representative very easily. You simply give your zip code and they transfer you.

    You can reach your federal legislators by calling the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121.

    Horse Hands Across America!
    Keep the Faith!

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 6, 2006 4:00 PM

    you guys have to remember that alot of these horses are coming from the backyard breeder. They want a cute foal and then when they grow up they cant handle them. They become unmanageable and nobody wants them. It is as bad as puppy mills. It is really bad in MO. Everyone wants to own a stallion and breed horses. It is a joke. Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 4:00 PM

    Jake

    Great news about Rangel. He must have changed his position since the HSUS list. One more for our side!!

    What I'm really worried about are the ones that won't vote at all. That way they can't say they voted to slaughter horses. But they won't vote to ban it either. I hope he is voting.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 4:02 PM

    J. Carson Balck... After seeing Rangel's name on the list, I called the office in Washington Again. Earlier someone just took my message politely but didn't and that was it.

    Like you this time I was told he is FOR the bill.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 6, 2006 4:02 PM

    Cathy Potter

    "I am a constituent and I am calling to ask that my Representative please protect American horses from slaughter and support H.R. 503, the Horse Slaughter Prevention Act. I also urge you to oppose any amendments to H.R. 503. I am very concerned about American horses and I don't want them slaughtered."

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 4:03 PM

    ######
    I just don't understand how these organizations who are founded upon horses (without horses they wouldn't have an organization to begin with) and claim to love their horses can turn their backs on them like this. It's so hypocritical and an injustice to these animals. It's truly sad.

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 4:03 PM

    Lynn in Austin,
    don't quote me on this, but I think I remember reading that APHA supported slaughter, too.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 4:04 PM

    I simply said, "Hi, I'm calling to express my concern and hopes that Solomon Ortiz will support HR 503 this week".

    no, IMO, email is not as effective as a
    'real' voice on the other end.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 4:06 PM

    ShellyA,

    I still like Horse Hands Across America for us.
    I used that in DC!!!
    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 03:36 PM

    You are welcome! It just came to me (of course it was GOD).

    Used in DC I don't get to read all postings. Could you give me a brief explanation.

    Horse Hands Across America!
    Keep the Faith!

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 6, 2006 4:06 PM

    Guys, I was able to be in DC this past weekend but only took in part of the HSUS conference(part Sun and part Mon). One of the sessions I did attend was a panel, and the woman was from the Doris Day Foundation, and alot of talk of course around anti-horse slaughter. She told the group in the morning session on Monday that the American Vet Med. Association is not for the bill. She did not elaborate more if totally against it, but not coming out for the bill. When I do get a chance, or if anyone else may know the dynamics around it, I will research it. Since my time was so limited there, it struck me as odd and my thoughts went immediately to how Dr. R would feel about the whole thing.I had to leave at the end of that session, so did not have time to follow-up with her one-to-one.

    Cathy from North Carolina

    Posted by: Cathy at September 6, 2006 4:07 PM

    #####
    The AQUA deserves to be disbanded. I still can't get over the testimony of their person at the earlier hearings. It was unbelievable. But slaughter does serve the interests of QH breeders because they simply don't have to worry about an overpopulation of overbred horses if the unwanted ones can be slaughtered. The answer is not slaughter; it is more responsible breeding and ownership of horses. But I don't know how you can convince the AQHA of that when their people see no difference whatsoever between horses and cattle, and when they're making money by overbreeding AND via slaughter. The AQHA should just merge with the dambed Cattlemen's Association and stop acting like they're an association for the benefit of horses.

    Posted by: Amy L. at September 6, 2006 4:09 PM

    Ro and Brady - it must have been US!!!! We did it! (Or the thousands of others who called.)

    What a turnaround!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 4:09 PM

    Don't know if this was posted above, but its the direct link to Bluegrass Cat's arrival at the airport. It's a quick video, but very interesting.

    http://st51.startlogic.com/~thorough/media/bgcat_airport.wmv

    HEAL WELL BARBARO and BLUEGRASS CAT (and LOST IN THE FOG!!)

    Posted by: Lynette at September 6, 2006 4:11 PM

    Good Morning BarbaroWorld Family

    especially to you, Bright Eyes. Glad that you got your visit from Rachel and Alie yesterday. You are such a good boy and we love you so much

    Thanks for the updates today, Alex! Hope you don't have any blisters.. Very important life principle to be learned here..always carry spares :)

    Thanks to Michael as well for his updates

    Rachel, welcome back! Hope you had a lovely holiday and thank you so much for sharing your visit yesterday. And thanks for the deliveries to our special guys at TWR too :)

    other BarbaroWorld family members...you ROCK I've emailed and called EVERYBODY here in CO who can make a difference and God willing, they will. Shelley, you are the BOMB, Girl! I am so proud of you!

    Prayers goin' on for HR 503, continuing prayers for Sweet BJ, for Dr. R and his staff, for the Jacksons who are in DC, *aren't they just the BEST???* and prayers for Fog and Special, the blood donor horses at NBC and everywhere, and anyone who needs them

    Love to all my maniacal BW family members!

    Cheryl
    (and I mean that in a GOOD way)

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 4:12 PM

    J Carson Black, it must have been, but I think his name appearing on the list was a mistake.

    Lets keep our fingers crossed....

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 6, 2006 4:12 PM

    I think so, too. The woman who answered says, "If you knew his record, you would know he'd be against it."

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 4:14 PM

    ########

    ShelleyA,

    In not voting, they are voting to keep it going - it's like they say, (and I can't remember the exact line) but in not making a decision, you are in fact making a decision to allow what's going on to continue.

    If I have a choice to pay a bill and if I have the money but I don't pay it, it's worse than not having the money in the first place, if thats makes sense. Both ways, my bill is unpaid.

    (I know I botched that but hope that made sense)

    To apply it to this: Yes, they are not voting either way, but in not voting, they are really in fact saying that they aren't against it or are unwilling to stand up against it, and that's even worse than opposing it. In not voting, they are still saying 'no' to HR 503.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 4:14 PM

    #####
    Laura in Key West and J. Carson Black:

    New Mexico is truly a gorgeous state, with unimaginable beauty. I thank God each morning for what He has created as I drive through the Rio Grande Gorge and up into the mountains to get to work.

    I did not refer to NM as a third world country. I said, "Old world attitude". I am involved in canine rescue here. One of the worst cases of abuse happened over a year ago. The sight brought grown men to tears. We COULD NOT get local law enforcement to act upon this. After the animal was dug out of the frozen ground, it was taken to a vet and immediately euthanized. Pictures of this abuse were sent to the Governor and State Attorney General. The "Word" came back immediately to the District Attorney in my county to prosecute the case immediately. We are still not over this event, and we never will be.

    I rescue 10 - 12 dogs on the average every fall. I take them to the shelter and the most donation I can afford is $20 per dog. Over the years, I have kept 4 of the dogs and they live a happy comfortable life into old age.

    It's not that I am a 'newcomer' and want to change things. I just can't cope with dependent animals suffering to the extent that they can and do suffer here.

    Posted by: Margie at September 6, 2006 4:16 PM

    At this point I believe a phone call is more important than an email ( I am at work, too ) since the vote is tomorrow and who knows how often they read their email print outs. Kind of like a telethon with all those reps phones ringing!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 4:18 PM

    #####

    Ryan

    you got that right. And in my very humble opinion, the road to departure from one's post is paved with rocks that have fallen from that elected official's head that are engraved "I don't care what you all think, I'm in in for the perks"

    Where in the process do they forget their campaigning and all the charm and empathy they put out there to get them where they are?

    (Rhetorical question of course..don't expect you to know the answer to that one)

    Hope you and Erin and Trinity are feeling a little less sad today. My thoughts are with you

    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 4:19 PM

    Thanks Alex for your updates.

    Thanks ShelleyA for all the hardwork. I called my local government and Delaware may be a small state but Congressman Castle is a co-sponsor of the HR 503. Yeah!

    Posted by: lynnette at September 6, 2006 4:19 PM

    I believe that the AAEP was not supporting the bill because it had no provisions for unwanted horses. that seems to be the main hang up with the bill. somebody seems to think that the government will get stuck feeding these animals. Why would they feed hungry animals- they dont feed their hungry people? It shouldnt make a difference. Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 4:20 PM

    I am stunned to learn that my Representative Ander Chrenshaw (Jacksonville, FL) is opposed to this measure.

    I, perhaps like some of you, thought that there was no way my congressman would be against this bill.

    I have written him and phoned again in order to try and persuade him to change his mind. I stressed the importance of the issue, and why he should reconsider.

    I presented fact and figures as to why our country should not stand by and allow this practice to continue.

    I also added, on a personal note, that my family
    was close friends with his father. Yes, I confess, I played that card. But I did it by saying my parents would want him to reconsider his position.

    Why is this all important. Because you should not take it for granted that someone you have supported (and perhaps even known personally) would never be against this legislation.

    Take time to call and write...even if you learn they do not support our cause.

    I guess life holds many surprises, but it doesn't have to be the final word!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 4:21 PM

    ########

    Margie

    You are just the BEST!! There will be a very special place in Eternity for you

    Love,
    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 4:21 PM

    Alex
    Stay safe on those horses. I hope you weren't aboard anyone too hard to control without your glove!

    Praying for HR503 to pass. I've contacted Hinojosa my rep, but I'm afraid he won't vote for it. I am so ashamed that two of the three slaughter houses are here in TX.

    The Fog
    I pray you are comfortable and in good spirits, and that the only effects from the chemo will be to combat you disease. I continue to pray for a miracle for you!

    Bobby
    Guess I'll have to make it through the day until we get an update on you, your Dr. R. is gone again! I am praying believing and expecting the reports will be good when they come.

    Posted by: Susan in TX at September 6, 2006 4:22 PM

    Hi Bobby, Team Barbaro and all you Barbaromanics everywhere! Prayers are being answered and our big boy is continuing his journey on the road to becoming the father of a lot of little Barabaros! I LOVE THIS SITE! As a little girl I was a horse nut, and that part of me is back. I love the updates on Bobby, but all the other information is like a gift! I am watchiong horse racing every week end now, am looking forward to watching Funny Cide run again in Delaware. With out your cite I would not even know when he is running. Thanks so much!!!

    Bobby you keep up the good work! We are all out here pulling for you!!

    Posted by: Pam at September 6, 2006 4:23 PM

    Ryan

    You are absolutely right. That's why we have to ask them if they WILL be voting. Some of those reps that have said they don't believe in the slaughter of horses will NOT vote at all.
    That's the critical vote....the ones that could make this pass.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 4:23 PM

    I've just nudged my 'non' horsey friends again- hopefully they will participate.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 4:25 PM

    Good Morning Champ! I hope you are enjoying your day along with your treats! It sounds like MM will be along to see you at some point, be good outside and don't forget your bug spray. Love you lots big guy.


    Have you called your Rep today???


    xoxoxox

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 4:25 PM

    #####
    Ryan is correct. Without horses these horse organizations would never have been formed.
    The Thoroughbred is the only breed that does not allow artificial insemanation. Sorry if I am misspelling words. ugh...I am just so irritated right now about these horse organizations in Texas and still trying to focus on my real job in my home office. I will try to make calls to the other Congressman in Texas today opposing the bill. You Texas gals out there...let's get on the horn today!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 4:26 PM

    ####

    Thank you, Cheryl Jones.
    There is a place for all of us on this site in Eternity! XXXOOO

    Posted by: Margie at September 6, 2006 4:28 PM

    #####

    Margie - I agree with you that there is an "old world attitude" in this part of the world. I think we finally banned dog fighting here in AZ, but it was tough.

    I love New Mexico. But it can certainly improve, just the way Arizona can. Particularly with animal issues. And with Kolbe, who opposes HR503, leaving - I'm looking forward to a brighter tomorrow for our own state!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 4:32 PM

    #####
    ShellyA,

    I still like Horse Hands Across America for us.
    I used that in DC!!!
    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 03:36 PM

    You are welcome! It just came to me (of course it was GOD).

    Used in DC I don't get to read all postings. Could you give me a brief explanation.

    Horse Hands Across America!
    Keep the Faith!

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 6, 2006 04:06 PM

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 6, 2006 4:32 PM

    it's pretty sick to think about this mentality of 'well, we're for continuing this because we don't know what else we'll do with unwanted horses'.

    um, so think about what to do- continuing it for that reason doesn't justify it by any means.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 4:32 PM

    ######
    Just a side note (and a little bit of comic relief) - I'm so fired up about this I have not even left my desk all day - it's soo hard to concentrate on work today (more than usual even ;) Although, I will be leaving for lunch soon - but will be on the phone, not eating ;).

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 4:33 PM

    perhaps spending a day..or an hour at a slaugtherhouse would convince the fence-sitters.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 4:34 PM

    I have called some, faxed some, emailed some...don't know if I'm having any effect at all, of course.

    I did write a very *un*emotional letter to email or fax, since TX congresscritters in general are so money-bound that they won't listen to anything else. I make five main points: first, that the horse slaughter industry depends on criminal activity (thievery) and functions like "chop shops" for cars, converting valued personal property into unidentifiable chunks. Second, that regulation of the industry has failed since theft continues to be an important source stream. Third, that feeding and management of horses as non-food animals means most horsemeat is contaminated with substances dangerous to consumers (antibiotics, hormones, anti-inflammatory and pain meds, pesticides.) If the consumers realize this, it will be a foreign relations nightmare ("Americans poisoning us with contaminated meat...") Fourth, that no human need is served by export of horsemeat--it isn't going to feed the starving, but the rich, and the countries purchasing it have horses aplenty if they want to eat horsemeat. If they're too squeamish to kill their own, tough noogies. (Well, no, I don't say "tough noogies" in the letter.) Fifth, that responsible horse owners and breeders have other ways to dispose of animals that have terminal illness or that they cannot support (overbreeders are incompetent businesspeople--why subsidize stupidity?)

    In phone calls (but not letters, since I don't have access to the written proof--can't find the reference) I also mention that the Texas slaughter facility paid minimal income tax on its enormous profit.

    But who knows what these people pay attention to, other than corporate entities that give them money for votes. I am SO not happy with the AQHA for opposing anti-slaughter legislation...but then it took them forever to admit they had a problem with HYPP (sorry...reining in long rant...) I wrote the AQHA about my opinion of their opposition to this bill months ago...no response. Like the rest of this bunch, they only want to hear what agrees with them, but if enough QH people withdraw from the organization for this reason and say why, maybe it change.

    Posted by: Elizabeth at September 6, 2006 4:34 PM

    Shelley A....you know, we kinda saw this coming yesterday when the party line seemed to be one of
    "why are we bothering with this issue when we have more important things to do."

    And, as I am sure you know better than all of us, politicians will look for this type of non-vote to really support a certain side of the issue.

    But, as someone said, we have carrots and we know how to use them!

    A fun way of saying we won't give up!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 4:34 PM

    yeap, Ryan, I can relate, too! Good thing for me is the report I'm working on is down to the photo editing, which I can do in my sleep..lol

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 4:34 PM

    I agree, Anna. Also, maybe these other horse associations should follow the Jockey Club's lead, and only do live breeding. (Of the horses, that is.)

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 4:34 PM

    ***Re: House Rules Committee***

    From the schedule of the rules committee...

    WEDNESDAY, September 6, 2006 at 5:00 p.m. in H-313 The Capitol
    H.R. 503 - To amend the Horse Protection Act to prohibit the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling or donation of horses and other equines to be slaughtered for human consumption, and for other purposes.

    The form of the bill which will be voted on
    tomorrow will be decided here...the amended Ag committee version is what we don't want to go to the floor...all new amendments to HR 503 had to
    have been submitted this morning by 11:oo a.m.

    ***Calling out of district***
    We had very little trouble with this... if you are questioned, remind the person you are talking to that due to heightened security mail to Capitol Hill is delayed up to 6 months...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 4:35 PM


    Re: The last HR503 hearing we listened to live?

    Does anyone have the transcript or know where it can be found? - Where they talked about the slaughter houses in Texas being Foreign owned and only paying $5 in taxes?

    I am asking because if these people don't want to vote yes or no regarding the horses, Then they should vote yes or no as to whether they want a Foreign owned company making, (I think they said about 12 million US dollars) and taking it home to their Country, and only paying $5 dollars in taxes to the US Government.

    Surely if they dont care about the horses, they would care about the Foreign companies getting rich off America and not paying taxes.

    I think this a very useful approach to use with the people reluctant to vote either way.


    Have you called your Rep today??

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 4:37 PM

    Just remember everybody, our votes put these people in the position to vote for this. Our votes can also take them OUt Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 4:38 PM

    carrot wielders vote, too.

    Elizabeth, well thought out!

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 4:38 PM

    I just wish these Congressmen would educated themselves on how these horses are killed. Before Barbaro and TWR I knew that horses were killed at plants but had no idea how grewsome and unhumane it was. The horses are scared and are watching other horses being beat and bloodied. After doing some research of my own and seeing what I saw on the internet I don't know how anyone could side any differently for any reason at all.

    Ashley

    Posted by: Ashley at September 6, 2006 4:38 PM

    Cathy from NC - in calling the Texas reps - that is what I was told. If they are against HR503, they quote the AVMA and the AAEP as also being against HR503, and they are going by what "they say". No one seems to know why these groups are against HR 503, other than to say the "welfare of the horse"!! Clearly not the welfare of the slaughtered horses - but they think it is.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 4:41 PM

    what is the AAEP?

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 4:43 PM

    I've called and called today. I have Democrats for and against, Republlicans for and against, it is just wild. My local Rep. Sue Myrick is a co-sponsor-thank you, Ms. Myrick. I did my best for our bill and for our horses.

    Barbaro, wish I could hug you to cheer myself up. Would you nip me ? Bet you would !! But I love you anyway , you inspirational guy you.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 6, 2006 4:46 PM

    EVERYONE IN MICHIGAN -- PLEASE MAKE SOME CALLS!!

    I have contacted Camp, Dingell and Miller's offices in DC as well as their local offices. The standard response is that they don't know how these people will vote or even what their opinions are. I am absolutely disgusted!!

    Camp's office was the worst and didn't even want to listen to what I had to say. Dingell's office stated that they won't give out any information regarding Dingell's opinion until AFTER the vote. Miller's aide listened to me but I have the feeling my message won't be forwarded.

    Please help me bombard their offices with phone calls, faxes and emails!

    If they think I'm a pain in the butt now, just wait. I will call them everyday for weeks if they DO NOT vote appropriately!

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 6, 2006 4:48 PM

    the AAEP is the american assoc of equine practitioners. Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 4:49 PM

    J. CARSON BLACK: I just called Rangel's office in Washington. The woman I talked to said he is FOR HR 503, and against the slaughter of horses.>>


    YES!! That's more like it, Charlie!


    Thanks, J, for the extra phone call and for letting us know...

    Posted by: Christine at September 6, 2006 4:51 PM

    Mary S-thanks for the update. Would love also to know, "the welfare of the horse" and what that entails. Want to bend a Vet's ear at this point and get some idea what road they are on. Where my dog currently, and I stress currently, goes here in NC, I have to do the education on Barbaro's surgery and "L" wording, etc. You would think they would be a bit more tuned in regarding his medical care and progress.

    Cathy from North Carolina

    Posted by: Cathy at September 6, 2006 4:51 PM

    Shelly A. you are awesome lady! Thank you for all all your hard work. Big Kudos to you!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 4:53 PM

    I just emailed a friend who lives in Texas and gave him the names of the reps who are against HR305.

    His reaction? And I quote:

    "they are about the biggest group of a-holes in the state"

    He also contacted them :)

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 6, 2006 4:54 PM

    Alex,
    I'll vounteer for grazing duty. Peter can rest.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 4:55 PM

    I think now it's time to go to work on Dingell.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 4:56 PM

    Jane in CT,
    You would think with all the horses in TX that a bill like this one would be supported. Makes me crazy.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 4:57 PM

    Shannon...you can go here to look for the transcript of one of the hearings...I don't think they are available yet, though (THe agriculture committee meeting didn't have reps to speak for the bill)

    http://energycommerce.house.gov/

    Christine, thank you for that info...good ole Charlie...

    Anna...just good to see you

    Carrots...UNITE

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 4:58 PM

    #####Just wanted to say Congrats to Trevor Denman, who will be calling the Breeders Cup this year. He is The Best race caller, they couldnt have gotten better Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 4:59 PM

    #####

    Jane in CT...I like your choice of friends...LOL

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 4:59 PM

    Sorry, I meant to type 503.

    Got carried away in my excitement :)

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 6, 2006 5:01 PM


    One of the main speakers against HR 503 at the hearing in July was a woman veterinarian (who's name I don't remember)...and a major national veterinarian association has also come out against the bill...

    Both endorsed the idea that without being able to resort to slaughterhouses to dispose of unwanted horses there will be higher incidences of abuse and neglect...however, that has not proven true in California where slaughter of horses is already outlawed...

    Responsible breeding and ownership of horses is the answer to this argument...the cost of providing a humane end of life to a horse who you
    have taken responsibility for is part of the cost of ownership or business, as the case may be...

    Sorry to go on...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 5:02 PM

    ###########

    hay shannon its me bArbaro

    "Good Morning Champ! I hope you are enjoying your day along with your treats! It sounds like MM will be along to see you at some point, be good outside and don't forget your bug spray. Love you lots big guy.


    Have you called your Rep today???


    xoxoxox"

    callin is reely outa the kwestshun becuz the sellfish fone buttns too little for hoooofffs but i eeemaillled

    love you too
    bArbaro
    ps i will go bak to bords postses now

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 5:02 PM

    Linda Lee

    Just meant that when I was at the rally some people would ask what group I was with. I said a group of people from a Barbaro website and we call ourselves Horse Hands Across America.

    It was never anything official.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 5:02 PM

    ######

    PAMELA

    He tells it like it is! ;)

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 6, 2006 5:03 PM

    thanks, Jen, for the explanation.

    Jake, happy Ding-e-lling.

    Pamela, good to see you, too!


    Look at what Barbaro has done, y'all-
    he's brought together people so far and wide, and gotten us INVOLVED in something some of us didn't even know we needed to believe in!

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 5:03 PM

    Pam

    Do you know where to find the transcripts of those meetings for Shannon. You're the one who found the site to begin with.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 5:04 PM

    I have a list of all those in Pa who are opposed to it with their phone numbers in Washington - I'll post after lunch for those in PA - have to go now as its my lunch... you can go here: http://www.house.gov/ and in the first drop down select a rep's name from anywhere in the country, press "go" and it takes you to their website where you can get the number.

    Here is a link to the House Agriculture Comittee website - it shows the 6 amendments they have to the bill, all of which are unreasonable. Not sure who is on the committee was trying to find it - but here's the link that shows you the amendments named after representatives: Salazar, King, Conaway, and Peterson

    Ah, think I have it:

    Subcommittee on Livestock and Horticulture
    Robin Hayes, (R-NC) Chairman

    Jurisdiction: Livestock; poultry; meat; seafood and seafood products; inspection, marketing, and promotion of such commodities; aquaculture; animal welfare; grazing; fruits and vegetables; marketing and promotion orders

    Robin Hayes, NC
    Chairman
    Richard W. Pombo, CA
    Tom Osborne, NE
    Mike Pence, IN
    Vice Chairman
    Mike Rogers, AL
    Steve King, IA
    Randy Neugebauer, TX
    John R. "Randy" Kuhl, Jr., NY
    Virginia Foxx, NC
    K. Micheal Conaway, TX
    Jean Schmidt, OH
    Mike Sodrel, IN
    Ed Case, HI
    Ranking Minority Member
    David Scott, GA
    Stephanie Herseth, SD
    Jim Costa, CA
    Dennis A. Cardoza, CA
    John T. Salazar, CO
    Leonard L. Boswell, IA
    Rick Larsen, WA
    Earl Pomeroy, ND
    John Barrow, GA

    Since all those that are on that committee have amendments named after them, I'm guessing this could be the committee that is working on it. Maybe we should focus some attention on them?

    Website I found this is:

    http://agriculture.house.gov/inside/legislation.html

    Hope that helps...

    See you all after lunch.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 5:04 PM


    #######

    Joyce Moore ...do you have email addresses for these people ?????? I will do some emailing even though I'm in Canada...it won't hurt them all to know that thousands of people in 15 countries around the world now know how inhumane they are prepared to be......Maybe that will shame them enough to want to.....

    DO THE RIGHT THING !!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 5:06 PM

    ####
    Christian - not one thing to be sorry about. This is incredibly important. We need to save these (and all) precious animals.

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 6, 2006 5:07 PM

    Alex,

    Thank you for the update. I'm so happy Peter will be taking Barbaro out to graze today. That should make him feel better! Looking forward to hearing Peter's report.

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 6, 2006 5:09 PM

    Keep up the good work for passage of HR503:
    According to the Humane Society of the US (HSUS) website, there have been 10,965 calls to CONGRESS so far!!
    Light the candles and collect the energy for the vigil tonight.

    Thanks ALEX for all that you do keeping us informed. :-)

    Carol
    San Diego

    Posted by: Carol at September 6, 2006 5:09 PM

    Ryan-

    The House Rules Committee is who will decide on the
    version of HR 503 to be voted on tomorrow...
    different from the Ag committee who added the amendments... not that it would hurt to call them,
    only 3 Ag committee members are supporters of HR 503

    see 4:35 p.m. post...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 5:09 PM


    In my calls and E-mails today, I relied upon using an entreat for "life and compassion" as my "big guns."

    Also, when speaking with Republican offices,in particular, I used the REALLY "big gun" of..."What would Reagan do?" I reminded them of Reagan's "...inside of a man..." quote, and also reminded them that this IS a Pro-LIFE issue.

    This enabled me to get the point across without getting too wordy or confrontational.

    Sometimes, using their own words and icons is the best way to get them to more carefully consider the issue from their OWN point of view.

    My calls and E-s are out....now I will Pray. Keep keepin' on friends...the victory is just around the turn....

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 5:10 PM

    The following is an email response that I received following my plea for the Colorado Wild Animal Sanctuary. This is so disheartening it has brought me to tears this morning. Haven't received any response from "Animal Planet".

    Thank you for sharing your concern with the San Diego Zoo. We share your concern and have followed the developments as well. The Zoological Society of San Diego works closely with national and international zoological organizations to assist facilities facing challenges.

    Our efforts to house and manage the breeding of rare and endangered species are coordinated through management plans for our collections and for the species in our care. Unfortunately, we cannot take action without the consideration of other partner facilities such as the accredited members of the Association of Zoos and Aquariums. To do so would mean that we have less room for the species we are currently trying to work with.

    This message was sent from the sandiegozoo.org Web site:

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 5:11 PM


    Oh....additionally, I also called and thanked those already on board for their support.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 5:11 PM

    Shelley A...this is the site , however, I doubt if the transcripts are there...they said they wouldn't be available for months when the hearing was held...

    Christian...the lady vets name who is against the bill starts with a "B"...sorry I only remember that but will try and find my notes...She testified at the Energy and Commerce meeting and the Agriculture meeting (in which pro-Slaughter forces were unopposed)...

    Does anyone remember?

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 5:12 PM

    DARN...sorry Shelley A....I forgot the link

    http://energycommerce.house.gov/

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 5:12 PM

    ###

    Pamela-
    Embarrassed about that... can't find where I wrote it down...she was kind of harsh and not worth remembering anyway...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 5:14 PM

    Rhetorical Question:

    Does the name “Barbaro Maniacs” depict the character, goals and endeavors of the group and engender a positive perception?

    (Read in the forum of a reporter planning to reference this group name with reference to HR 503.)

    Drew

    Posted by: Drew at September 6, 2006 5:15 PM

    SHELLEY....go to the link I gave you and type in HR 503 in the search box....it will give you pdf files of testimony in front of the committee...
    sorry I am slow on this...

    Also...the lady Vets name was DR BEAVER

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 5:17 PM

    I can still see her face but can't remember her name!

    Just said on C-SPAN that they will have the horse legislation discussion tomorrow at 10AM

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 5:17 PM

    I just called my Representative. They said that they have received numerous calls today about H.R. 503. I was so nervous that I didn't ask whether the calls were in favor or not. (Sorry!)

    His office wasn't sure how he would be voting but that he has been gathering information on this for a few days now. Does this sound like a "generic" answer just to get me off the phone?

    They took my name and address and mentioned that I will be getting a letter after the vote indicating how Gil Gutknecht (MN) voted.

    I apologize. It feels like I should have done more. But I was polite!!

    Take care guys!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at September 6, 2006 5:17 PM

    HEY CHAMP...glad you had ACN....
    I'll be praying that you have a good day today but we are all busy with the HR503 bill which will help save all your buddies !!!!!!

    I know that you can hold down the fort by yourself knowing that WE are all DOING THE RIGHT THING for ALL your friends !!!!! REST and HEAL...feel proud of what our love for YOU has created Sweet Boy for....YOU ARE SO LOVED BY MANY !!!!!!!

    THANK YOU LORD FOR CONTINUED HEALING OF BOBBY
    MIKE and THE FOG .....
    PLEASE BLESS ALL THOSE WORKING ON HR503 and HELP IT TO PASS SUCCESSFULLY......AMEN

    BLESS ALL ...I'M PROUD TO CALL YOU MY FRIENDS !!

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 5:17 PM

    CHRISTIAN....Dr. Beaver...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 5:17 PM


    re the Michigan Reps...Camp, Dingell, Hoelstra, and Knollenberg...

    I called their offices,this morning, and they seemed quite willing to take my message to pass on.

    >>>BE CAREFUL TO BE POLITE...And I suggest that you use a "script" only as a guideline. Speak from your heart, but be polite, brief, COMPLIMENTARY to the phone person, and keep to the point. Do not DEMAND...URGE and ENCOURAGE.

    Good luck....God be with us all.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 5:18 PM

    #####
    Don't mean to make anybody mad, but if you want results, concentrate on Demos. Demos like to think of themselves as nice people. A lot of Republicans like to think of themselves as tough people. "Nice" and "tough" are both fine attributes, but it all goes to how people see themselves, and how they want others to see them. You're not going to change the mind of a person who styles himself after Sean Hannity. The Sean Hannitys of this world say, "suck it up and stop being such a sissy!"

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 5:18 PM

    Here's the phone numbers for the Californians' on the committee:

    Cardoza 202-225-6131
    Pombo 202-225-1947
    Costa 202-225-3341

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 5:19 PM

    EVERYONE...go to this site...

    http://energycommerce.house.gov/

    TYPE in HR 503 in the SEARCH BOX

    it will take you to PDF file links for the testimony of Dr. Beaver as well as T Boone Pickens

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 5:21 PM

    Pombo - don't waste your breath. He is actively seeking to get rid of the endangered species act altogether. Not exactly an animal lover in any way, shape, or form.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 5:22 PM

    #######

    J Carson Black....

    Carrots don't get mad....they get even...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 5:22 PM


    EVERYONE DON'T FORGET.....

    VIGIL ON HR503 TONIGHT AT 7PM

    WHERE EVER YOU ARE SAY A PRAYER THAT HR503 PASSES

    I'LL BE THERE....THANK YOU JOYCE MOORE

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 5:23 PM

    Pam, Shelley,

    Rats, I think your right, I do remember that the transcripts would not be ready for months. I wish I could of taken it word for word now, the 12 million these Foreign based slaughter houses made and the 5 dollars they paid in taxes is really a very strong argument to use on the fence sitters.

    I just wish I had the word for word verbatim that the Owner used at the hearings to prove the point.

    Maribel, as I am sure you know we have our own battle up here to close our remaining slaughter houses, as well as the 2-3 Premarin farms sadly still in use. I am glad to see more then just you and I, getting involved and lending our support to both sides of the border on these important issues.

    PS.
    Shelley - All is well with Alibi? Just got the Scr notice.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 5:23 PM

    and then there are the constituents, Jake,
    many of whom are nice AND tough- not leaning way out over the edge in either direction.
    *raising hand*

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 5:24 PM

    Anna - you're nice'ntough. Hmmn, good name for a racehorse. (Or bath tissue.)

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 5:25 PM

    Hello, I'd like to thank those who found something useful and/or comforting in the the mostly Catholic quotes I posted yesterday which pertained to HR 503. I didn't respond in a more timely manner because I don't get much time to online. I do check here as much as possible to check on Barbaro (Beautiful Bobby), Mike R., LITF, and the status of HR 503.

    I, however, found some more quotes I find pertainent to HR 503.

    Firstly from the French:

    "Who can believe that there is no soul behind those luminous eyes!" Theophile Gautier.

    "When I lost my way, I was accustomed to throw the reins on his neck, and he always discovered places where I, with all my observation and boasted superior knowledge, could not." Napoleon Bonaparte about his horse Marengo.

    "The fate of animals is of greater importance to me than the fear of appearing ridiculous." Emile Zola.


    Next from some famous Americans:

    "It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions." Mark Twain.

    "I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being." Abraham Lincoln.

    "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it." Abraham Lincoln.


    The religion of Islam:

    "A good deed done to an animal is as meritorious as a good deed done to a human being, while an act of cruelty to an animal is a bad as an act of cruelty to a human being." Prophet Mohammed.

    "There is not an animal on the earth, nor a flying creature on two wings, but they are people like unto you." Islam. Qur'an.


    The author of Black Beauty:

    "There is no religion without love, and people may talk as much as they like about their religion, but if it does not teach them to be good and kind to beasts as well as man it is all a sham." Anna Sewell.

    "We call them dumb animals, and so they are, for they cannot tell us how they feel, but they do not suffer less because they have no words." Anna Sewell.


    Native Americans:

    "Every animal knows more than you do." Native American Proverb.

    "What is a man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, men would die form great loneliness of spirit, for whatever happens to the beasts also happens to man." Chief Seattle.

    "The Earth does not belong to man; Man belongs to the Earth. This we know. All things are connected like the blood which unites one family. Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons of the Earth. Man did not weave the web of life, he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself." Chief Seattle.


    And lastly, the classical world, (i.e.; old dead Greek guys).

    "Animals share with us the privilege of having a soul." Pythagoras.

    "The soul is the same in all living creatures, although the body of each is different." Hippocrates.


    Posted by: Cheryl - PA at September 6, 2006 5:25 PM

    Otherlyn-

    I couldn't agree more...

    Can't stress enough the importance of politeness and respect in the calls, especially today when the folks that answer phones are being bombarded...they have the power to pass along your info or not...

    Plus, supporters of HR 503 are being painted as "animal rights fanatics" by the opposition so it's even more important to be reasonable...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 5:26 PM

    I for one will never use Premarin. Been going thru menopause for a few years taking nothing. It ain't easy but I'll never support those drugs.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 5:27 PM

    The good Dr. went on a seminar??? And left Mr. Magnificent behind? I just hope the seminar is all about the latest, greatest treatments for laminitis....;)


    ######
    I'm planning to call Mike Honda's office at Lunch. I'm going to ask them if they think Secretariat, Seabiscuit or Barbaro should be on the menu...(Great idea Mrs. Jackson)
    #####

    (((Alex))) for Prime Minister...(Thanks for all you do!)

    (((Bobby)))Enjoy your outing with Peter..the Good Dr. will be back soon.

    (((LITF))) sending good thoughts from close by.

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 6, 2006 5:27 PM


    ######

    SHANNON....YES..WE NEED TO GET HR503 PASSED FIRST
    AN ARMY DIVIDED CANNOT WIN !!!!!!

    I'M WITH YA GIRL....USA FIRST....THEN... THE WORLD !!!!!!! CANADA BEING NEXT TARGET !!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 5:27 PM

    Cathy - go for plant-based hormones.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 5:28 PM

    Yea, Beaver...that's it. Can't find the transcripts. If anyone is a little more savvy than me about navigating the web, please help.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 5:29 PM


    Carson....with all due respect...

    I am a Republican...a compassionate conservative who believes in the sanctity of all life.

    PLEASE everyone, don't just consentrate on just the Dems (as our dear Carson suggests)...we need EVERY vote.

    I told the offices that this is a rare opportunity for Bi-Partiscen co-operation on a very important issue.

    Let's get those votes fro BOTH sides of the asile. My own Rep, Vern Ehlers (R) of Michigan has long been a co-sponsor.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 5:30 PM

    Jake, don't think I would go for bath tissue with that name..a filly, though?
    you betchersweetbippy!

    Cathy, look up a company called Emerita- (it's one of many that offer safer and effective alternatives)

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 5:30 PM

    Cathy- a great thing for menopause is soy. My friend uses Soy revival or something like that and has nearly eliminated her hot flashes Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 5:31 PM

    And here comes Pam to save the day! Thanks for the link it's perfect.


    Racing Today - Delaware Park

    Michael Matz has – In Pectore, a 4yr old colt in Race 5 today at Delaware

    AND

    Michael Matz and our favorite owners the Jacksons Lael Stables have Surprise Inside, in a Maiden Special Weight for Race 7, also at Delaware. Can't wait to see those colors!

    Update your stables, call your Reps and lets hope for a good safe run.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 5:32 PM

    Shannon

    Alibi has a respiratory infection. That's why he was scratched. Thanks for asking.

    I agree about the Premarin horses but this vote is tomorrow. If we can get this through then we can go on to that subject.

    Obviously, we are gaining strength in our numbers. The support seems to have grown on this site.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 5:33 PM

    ###### ShelleyA

    Why was Alibi scratched today?

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 6, 2006 5:34 PM

    ####

    CATHY POTTER...I have used natural hormone therapy for 15yrs. It's safe ...I'm a cancer survivor(aggresive estrogen based breast cancer) if it wasn't I wouldn't be here.....I use natural progesterone which is bio-identical made from a plant.J Carson Black is right.Google Dr. John Lee (graduate of Harvard Medical School)He did all the research about this and used it on his own patients for years.

    Hope this is very useful info for you as it is the answer to hot flashes.You need to get a reputable brand. I get mine from a nutripath.
    LUV YA....Maribel

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 5:34 PM

    Thanks Pam-

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 5:34 PM

    SHANNON...if you go to the site I mentioned and click on the transcript of T Boone Pickens...he discusses the TAX issue in his tesimony...around or about paragraph 6...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 5:35 PM

    Barbaro my love,

    You are a such a beautiful boy. I am praying for you and for the Fog. You are both such wondrous inspirations.

    Maybe you could send the Fog a lock of your hair (mane?) to connect your fighting spirits? (Well, just an idea.) I love you SO much Barbaro and Fog. FIGHT the odds boys--you are the masters of your fate, you are the captains of your souls. May all the love we have for you and the amazing power of your wonderful spirits heal you both. XXXXXOOOOOXXXX...

    Posted by: Brenda S. at September 6, 2006 5:35 PM

    It did'nt matter if they were Democrats or Republicans when I called - my entreaty was that horse slaughter is "Un-American" and does not hold with our values as a nation ( mentioned foreign culinary consumption )

    Remember to be unfailingly polite!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 5:36 PM

    #####

    Shelley A...I got the SCR notice too and want to wish a speedy recovery for ALIBI....

    you are such a good mommie...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 5:36 PM

    ######


    ShelleyA-any update on Mike Honda (D-CA)?? He hadn't made up his mind as of yesterday.

    I plan on calling him at lunch (PST)


    ######

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 6, 2006 5:37 PM

    ###

    Maribel, you bet your sweet $$$ maple leaf we will get this done. :) Like Dr.R said, bad things happen fast, good things take a very long time. Lucky for us Barbro fans we are used to marathons ;)

    Re: premarin, we had a good thread going in the forum regarding alternatives. Please check it out for those who are interested.

    Have you called your Rep today?

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 5:38 PM

    Thank you for the poem. It moved me to tears. I will continue to pray, along with all of you, for the passing of the bill.

    Dearest Barbaro,

    You are such an inspiration. I send you love and healing thoughts for a beautiful day.

    Posted by: Karen in Las Vegas at September 6, 2006 5:39 PM

    Is it just me? It seems that so many of the politicians and aides I've talked to today are not very well informed. I'm sure they are still gearing up after their vacations but I'm annoyed that they are supposed to vote tomorrow and either aren't very aware of the issue or don't know how they are going to vote.

    Gee, I want a job in which I can tell the people I work for that, "I really don't know what's going on or what I'm going to do, but hey, I'll get back to you on that."

    Sorry for venting...been a long day.

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 6, 2006 5:40 PM

    Thanks for the "no update" update, Alex.

    Bobby--you might get to go grazing with your Peter!!!!!!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 5:45 PM

    ####
    If every woman used the plant-based alternative, the people who make Premarin would a) go out of business, or b) start making the plant-based alternative.

    You'd think doctors would tell their patients about the alternative, but then, the Premarin rep is probably waiting right outside their office with the goodies.

    So... ask! :)

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 5:46 PM

    ######

    Joyce...our tax dollars at work!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 5:46 PM

    I guess it looks like it will be a good update if Bobby's going out to graze!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 5:50 PM

    I tink the aides are sitting there answering the phones and just saying He hasnt made up his mind yet. ---- or get off the pot! Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 5:50 PM

    Pam

    I can't find it...I know I'm computer challenged!! Could you post the link directly to Pickens testimony for me.
    Thanks

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 5:51 PM

    go here to get the materials to use when calling, look for the part about the Call day. I have been using this when calling..


    http://www.hsus.org/legislation_laws/citizen_lobbyist_center/national_day_horses.html

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 6, 2006 5:51 PM

    #####

    SHANNON...I will be personally contacting my rep here but before I do that I want all the facts ...do you have them re: Canada ?????????
    That would speed things up!!!!! They have to be correct .....or we'll look like dummies and lose all credibility .....not what we want to happen !!! Do you have info???? LUV YA Maribel

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 5:55 PM

    ShelleyA,

    sorry for the question earlier, didn't see your post. Hope Alibi feels better.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 6, 2006 5:56 PM

    Ha!

    Just persuaded one of the managing partners at my firm to contact his rep, Todd Akin. Hope he gets somewhere!!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 5:56 PM

    Pam, I got it.

    For anyone else who needs some help swaying the fence sitters, time IS of the essence. Here is Pam's link, this is a useful argument.

    Regarding Taxes and other reasons HR 503 should be passed

    Shelley, speedy recovery for Alibi, sending love your way.

    Just a quick note, Simply Because, the filly who injured her suspensory ligaments while training at Del Mar on 7/19/06 and was vanned off, good news! She was NOT put down, I had long suspected this but was unable to get concrete info.

    I have been able to locate info stating that she is recoverring from her severe injuries in a So Cal Equine Hospital. I am not familiar with So Cal, maybe someone in CA knows what hospital she might be at? I am sure she could use some love. This is just one horse that we can happily remove from the Del Mar E list. Thank god for small miracles.

    Just got my API newsletter, reminding us that it is National Call In Day! Like we didn't know? :)

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 5:57 PM

    I emailed, faxed and called Rep Kenny Hulshof, 9th District Rep for MO. I am in his district. I spoke with his staffer who could not explain his position on HR503. They did log my call and commit to sending a letter re: this issue. I hope there are others in my district applying some pressure. Without any real clout, I feel without a voice but at least I tried.

    It's amazing, this Barbaro Effect. I have never contacted my representative about anything before. At least I feel like I'm doing something.

    Posted by: Sheila at September 6, 2006 5:59 PM

    Susan E. - Im here in st. peters and me and anyone I know have bombarding his office with calls and e-mails. Its the same answer everytime. he doesnt know how he's going to vote. I even got my mailman to call. Lets hope we can get through to him, because I feel the rest of the state is a lost cause. jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 5:59 PM

    JOYCE MOORE

    I share your frustrations, but welcome to the wonderful world of politics. Many bills get voted upon with the rep knowing little or nothing about the legislation except what he/she may have received by way of summary briefing by an aide. It's highly unusual for a rep to have read the entire actual bill. Too much paper and too little time, I guess.

    They didn't mention this back in the day on Schoolhouse Rock!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 6:00 PM

    PHEW...thank you Shannon (or was it really Zeena) for saving my respective rear end by posting that link....
    Shelley A...
    I am also computer challenged and just got lucky today...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 6:02 PM

    #######

    HEY ALL..gotta go get lunch and make dinner...auntie has been very patient....

    YOU ARE ALL AWESOME...POWER TO THE HORSES !!!!

    AIM THOSE CARROTS and DON'T FIRE TILL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THEIR EYES..........

    LUV YA ALL...GOD BLESS .....Maribel

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 6:02 PM

    susanE.- do you work with a politician? Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 6:03 PM

    I asked for an explanation of how anyone could support the slaughter of horses for human consumption and got the canned response "I haven't spoke to him personally on this issue....blah blah blah". But as it was coming out of my mouth, I realized how awful it would sound for someone to actually try to verbalize why they would vote against this bill. It's absurd and ridiculous that it's even close. I feel sick about our government right now. So sick that I've shut my office door because I'm on the verge of tears just thinking about it.

    Posted by: Sheila at September 6, 2006 6:04 PM

    TO CONGRESS CRITTERS:

    HOW HARD IS IT TO MAKE UP YOUR MINDS THAT THE FLICKA, FURY, TRIGGER, BUTTERMILK, SILVER, SCOUT, SECRETARIAT, SEABISCUIT, AND BARBARO ... AND ALL THEIR KIN ...

    #1. SHOULDN'T BE BRUTALLY SLAUGHTERED
    #2. SHOULDN'T BE DINNER FOR SOME KIND OF WHACK MIND TRIP IN EUROPE AND ASIA

    My TMJ is acting up, cos I'm clenching my teeth. Send in Jack Bauer to "convince" them!

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 6:05 PM

    SHELLEY, kisses and good wishes to you and Alibi. Poor baby. Do horses get seasonal allergies?

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 6:05 PM

    OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

    I just called ANDER CRENSHAW's OFFICE and

    HE WILL BE VOTING YES FOR HR 503....

    YYYIIIPPPEEEEE

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 6:07 PM

    Sheila- every call could make a difference, we just have to hammer it into them. Being the show me state we have to show them that is what we want. Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 6:07 PM

    QUESTION RE VOTE TOMORROW

    Is there anyone who's available and willing to monitor the vote tomorrow and post it for those of us who can only pop in from time to time???

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 6:08 PM

    I just spoke with Rep. John Salazar's office. They do not know how he is voting. Considering the fact that he and his brother (Sen. Salazar) are from a rural area and always shown in cowboy hats, I had just assumed that they would support this. We have all learned that nothing can be assumed.

    Can anyone tell me why so many horse groups support this inhumane practice? Makes absolutely no sense to me. Is it to "keep the price up" on the product?? Really, I am totally baffled by the attitudes we have uncovered.

    Posted by: Deborah A./ Colorado at September 6, 2006 6:09 PM

    Sorry for going overboard....but he is my REP and was listed in the Forum as voting AGAINST....

    letters and calls DO WORK!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 6:09 PM

    Jen, you're right. I am going to an exercise class in a little while and will ask the ladies to call Hulshof too. I'm also calling my mom and my sister who are also in the 9th district. It's just so frustrating that there's anyone against this.

    Pamela, good for you! Cross one more off of the against list! AWESOME!

    Posted by: Sheila at September 6, 2006 6:09 PM

    Susan E...If no one minds on the spot reporting...I will be happy to report...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 6:10 PM

    #######

    Hi Otherlyn, you said you called the MI reps. Should I also do this? The HSUS said my rep is Levin & hes on board.

    Posted by: Susan O at September 6, 2006 6:12 PM

    GOOD JOB PAMMIE!!!

    Thanks for offering to monitor tomorrow!!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 6:13 PM

    Christian - or anyone - which reps make up the 13 member house rules committee?

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 6:14 PM

    ###

    Susan E, LOL@schoolhouse rock, with Politics these days I am afraid that show would of had to of been x-rated.

    Jen, it amazes me these people do not know which way to vote? If they are unsure about their job then perhaps they should not have it. There is no harm in reminding them of that. Every call counts. You have made a difference.

    Maribel, I do have information on what we can do and I will get back to you on it. Like you said a divided army cannot win. We will do this first and then we will handle our business. One country at a time!

    J. Carson Black, you hit the nail on the head with the Premarin comments. It's all about supply and demand, the demand up here has dropped and has forced Wyeth Inc, to close 2 Premarin farms up here. I guess the drug reps offer some pretty nice kickbacks for Dr's who push Premarin on patients. Ever wonder why the drug company reps never need an appt?? Money talks...bs walks...or in this case.. waits in the waiting room.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 6:14 PM

    CALLING ALL MISSOURI OPPONENTS OF HORSE SLAUGHTER

    Representatives Ike Skelton, Lacy Clay, JoAnne Emerson, and Emmanuel Cleaver don't want to hear from non-constituents.

    IF THERE'S ANYONE OUT THERE IN CLAY'S, EMERSON'S, SKELTON'S AND CLEAVER'S districts, please call and tell all your friends/family/etc. to call too!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 6:15 PM

    Hi everyone, just got off the telephone with the aids of two of Penna state reps. John Murtha, Tim Murphy. Both could not tell me how they will vote on HR 503.

    Let say a prayer for HR 503.

    Do it for BARBARO

    Call today, Carol-Pittsburgh

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at September 6, 2006 6:17 PM

    Yes Susan, show me where to go and where to look and consider it done. Pam and I will provide a play by play or blow by blow account. Just hope we dont get in trouble this time...

    xoxoxo

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 6:17 PM

    Pam

    That's GREAT news. He wasn't listed as an ally!!!!

    I will be watching C-SPAN beginning tomorrow at 10AM and will try to keep you up to date. Do you think we need to do it on the forum or will it be okay here?

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 6:18 PM

    ALL YOU COLORADO PEOPLE -

    Bob Beauprez may not be your representative, but he is running for Governor, so call him!!!

    Posted by: Deborah A./ Colorado at September 6, 2006 6:18 PM

    Here is an article that reports on "Focus on fracture repair"

    As surgeons gain more experience at repairing challenging fractures, new techniques and devices emerge


    http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/horsehealth/hhview.asp?recno=66319&subsec=

    Here are a few paragraphs:

    THE UNPRECEDENTED media coverage of Kentucky Derby (G1) winner Barbaro's injury, surgical repair, and recovery at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center has turned casual horse enthusiasts into quasi-medical interns. Countless numbers of people have downloaded the images of Barbaro's fractured leg and its repair, and they have followed the daily media updates through cast changes, implant removal and replacement, laminitis, and suspected osteomyelitis (bone infection).

    At each step of the way, ordinary people--carpenters, secretaries, truck drivers, and cooks--have been exposed to the methods used to repair equine fractures and the medical care necessary following such procedures. They have followed Barbaro's assisted recovery in New Bolton's surgical recovery tank, read about the titanium plate and screws in his injured limb, and seen pictures of him standing in a supportive sling.

    Some of the highlighted paragraphs:

    Accelerated bone healing

    New hardware
    New techniques

    and lastly:

    Barbaro's legacy

    It is too early to be sure about Barbaro's legacy. As the Kentucky Derby winner continues to battle complications associated with repair of his right hind leg, it is premature to speculate how Barbaro will be viewed in years to come. Will he be thought of as a gifted athlete that excited and thrilled the world of horse racing? Will he be remembered for his ability in the breeding shed? Will he be forever linked to his struggle to recover from a devastating injury? One thing is certain so far: Barbaro may well be best remembered for providing the public with an education in the advances and possibilities available through veterinary medicine.

    Kenneth L. Marcella, D.V.M., is a practicing veterinarian in Canton, Georgia.

    Thought we might be interested in reading.

    Keep up the fight, Barbaro!

    Posted by: lynnette at September 6, 2006 6:18 PM

    From Sheila:

    "I asked for an explanation of how anyone could support the slaughter of horses for human consumption and got the canned response "I haven't spoke to him personally on this issue....blah blah blah". But as it was coming out of my mouth, I realized how awful it would sound for someone to actually try to verbalize why they would vote against this bill. It's absurd and ridiculous that it's even close. I feel sick about our government right now. So sick that I've shut my office door because I'm on the verge of tears just thinking about it"
    -------------------------

    Sheila,

    1. Big Government means:

    2. Big Lobbyist Dollars

    Who is a politician going to listen to when he is the incumbent with not chance of realistically be voted out of office?

    A. A lobbyist with a brief case full of money.

    B. Or you and I?

    I too feel sick about the state of our Federal Govt. Do you really think we are in Iraq to "liberate" them? Sheesh!

    And this is coming from a former US Army Military Policeman.

    Let's keep hammering away at them though. We do have GOD on our side.....

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at September 6, 2006 6:20 PM

    ***House Rules Committee***


    DAVID DREIER, CA - CHAIRMAN

    LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART, FL

    LOUISE McINTOSH SLAUGHTER, NY - Ranking Minority Member

    DOC HASTINGS, WA

    JAMES P. McGOVERN, MA

    PETE SESSIONS, TX

    ALCEE HASTINGS, FL

    ADAM PUTNAM, FL

    DORIS O. MATSUI, CA

    SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, WV

    TOM COLE, OK

    ROB BISHOP, UT

    PHIL GINGREY, GA


    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 6:20 PM

    Deborah A

    *************************************************

    just spoke with Rep. John Salazar's office. They do not know how he is voting. Considering the fact that he and his brother (Sen. Salazar) are from a rural area and always shown in cowboy hats, I had just assumed that they would support this. We have all learned that nothing can be assumed.

    Can anyone tell me why so many horse groups support this inhumane practice? Makes absolutely no sense to me. Is it to "keep the price up" on the product?? Really, I am totally baffled by the attitudes we have uncovered

    *************************************************

    Sometimes I think that the administrative staff members give "canned" answers. I believe...and I could be wrong, but I believe that Representative John Salazar is one of the authors of the bill. Hope I'm not wrong...anyway when I called earlier I said something like "suffice to say, Rep. Salazar will be voting in favor...." The response I got was "I'm not really sure...." oh well. we can hope can't we. That is something we here in BarbaroWorld do particularly well

    XXXOOOO

    Cheryl (Lakewood CO)

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 6:20 PM

    HI ALL ...

    IT'S MY FIRST POST TODAY, but I have been busily working for HR503 since early this morning. I called Rep. Wexler in my district first. And then I decided to call all 8 NO VOTES outside my District and try to urge them to change their votes to YES without amendment!! I was only able to talk to the person who answered the phone and said they would pass along the message. I think they are getting bombarded and annoyed with similar phone calls today!

    HOW SWEET IT IS !!! ALL FOR YOU, BOBBY, AND FOGGY AND THE REST OF YOUR 'TRIBE!!'

    AND THE BARBARO BEAT GOES ON, THE BEAT GOES ON ...

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 6:21 PM

    #####

    Barbaro wanted me to ask you guys...What makes you so sure God isn't a HORSE?

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 6:21 PM

    OK - thanks Christian.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 6:24 PM

    Ok! Two senior partners (both conservatives) are contacting their reps. One of them talked to an aide of Todd Aiken's, who said he'd make sure Mr. Akin got the message today. Congressman Akin is leaving for DC today.

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 6:25 PM

    #########

    Pamela

    to that I say "Awomen"

    :)

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 6:25 PM

    Jake,
    the pharmaceutical companies can't patent soy or black cohosh or wild yams, and they can't improve on it, so they aren't likely to produce these alternatives..the money just isn't there like it is in something they can control the price on- at least until the patents run out.

    Pharmaceutical companies also seduce doctors with perks we hear little about, in exchange for the doctors promoting their wares.
    When I helped of an elderly woman and took her to the doc (frequently)- there were usually more drug reps than patients, waiting to get in.

    and her doc prescribed a LOT of pills for her.

    the pharmaceutical companies have deep pockets and know how to reach those who can ensure that they remain so.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 6:26 PM

    PAMMIE ... THIS IS GREAT NEWS. HE WAS ON THE 'NO' LIST ... I CALLED ALSO TODAY AND URGED TO CHANGE VOTE TO YES! IT WORKS! IT WORKS! AND HE'S NOT EVEN IN MY DISTRICT!!! BUT I CALLED, GAVE MY NAME BUT NOT ZIP CODE OR ADDRESS SO HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE I'M FROM! NEITHER DO I RIGHT NOW !!! LOLOL

    OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

    I just called ANDER CRENSHAW's OFFICE and

    HE WILL BE VOTING YES FOR HR 503....

    YYYIIIPPPEEEEE

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 06:07 PM

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 6:26 PM

    Sheila- i have Akins # on speed dial to make it easier for the people I ask to call to do it. Just dial it up and hand it to them. Jen Where's Mish? what district is she in?

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 6:26 PM

    Pam - GOOD ONE! Way to go! One legislator at a time.

    And great news, Shannon, on Wyeth having to close those farms.

    The great thing about this site - it's good to be informed about things like HR 503 and the alternatives to Premarin.

    I had to bring it up with my own doctor - no way was she going to give me anything but the default, Premarin---until I asked. We CAN make a difference, and put more of these people out of business.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 6:26 PM

    Pamela - No, actually, God is a dog - that's why he reversed the spelling of his name.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 6:26 PM

    Cheryl

    Salazar is not a friend. Not only is he not with us on this bill but he has a "0%" score on ANY animal rights issues.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 6:27 PM

    Everyone calling-

    Don't forget that the people who answer the phones
    at the offices of the congressmen may be very young, fresh out of college interns..the legislative aides, (agriculture or animal rights), would be the people to ask for who may know more about how the rep will vote, or who help decide on policy even...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 6:27 PM

    Just in case anyone in PA hadn't had a chance to find them, I will list the reps in PA that from the list we have are not supporting the bill (not that we should not call all, but these are the ones that are not supportive of it last we know):

    Hart 202-225-2565
    Murphy 202-225-2301
    Peterson 202-225-5121
    Sherwood 202-225-3731
    Shuster 202-225-2431

    Sorry that they are all the DC numbers.

    Sorry about my earlier post - forgot that the Rules Committee was the one that is going to decide which version is put forth.

    Their number, I found was: 202-225-9191

    Not sure if that goes to one or all of them. I will be calling it though.

    Just in case you didn't know, apparently there were more amendments that were submitted late to the Comittee as of 12:21 today.

    It's kind of long so I won't post the whole thing but here is the link to it:

    http://www.rules.house.gov/amendment_details.aspx?NewsID=1796

    Here is the page for the members of the committee thats lists them by name including states:

    http://www.rules.house.gov/rules_members.htm

    I also checked their schedule and they are meeting today at 5pm EST to discuss the amendments. So we should contact them as soon as we can before they meet. I'm guessing that after the meeting they will have what they will present to the House floor tomorrow.

    Here are the members' names and respective numbers below their name:

    DAVID DREIER, CA - CHAIRMAN
    202) 225-2305

    LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART, FL
    202) 225-4211

    LOUISE McINTOSH SLAUGHTER, NY - Ranking Minority Member
    (202) 225-3615

    DOC HASTINGS, WA
    (202) 225-5816

    JAMES P. McGOVERN, MA
    (202) 225-6101

    PETE SESSIONS, TX
    (202) 225-2231

    ALCEE HASTINGS, FL
    (202) 225-1313

    ADAM PUTNAM, FL
    (202) 225-1252

    DORIS O. MATSUI, CA
    (202) 225-7163

    SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, WV
    (202) 225-2711

    TOM COLE, OK
    (202) 225 6165

    ROB BISHOP, UT
    (202) 225-0453

    PHIL GINGREY, GA
    (202) 225-2931

    Hope this info helps :)

    Ryan

    I will post this in the forum under the numbers we need to contact - I will try to make a new thread if I can (first time though so not sure if I'll get it right - if someone wants to start a thread with this info if I can't that'd be great) :)

    PS: Sorry this was so long - figured it was info that we should have. :)

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 6:27 PM

    Anna - they do have plant-based hormonal therapy---and it works great!

    Jake

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 6:27 PM

    Hi Shelly A.,
    Just saw your post on Alibi. I hope he gets better. Please give him scratches behind his ears and a hug to get better.
    Rener

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 6:28 PM

    #########
    Susan O"

    Yes, Susan, call your Congressman, and all of the other Michigan Reps.

    Heck I have even been calling Congressmen from states I don't even live in. I just tell their offices that I am calling to urge them to join with my Rep, Congressman Vern Ehlers of Michigan, in voting YES, in support of HR503.

    By the way, Levin is a Senator. The Senate bill on this is S1915...THAT battle is coming up soon. It is good to know that he is already on board.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 6:29 PM

    Shelley, I'm thinking of Alibi, too.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 6:30 PM

    Jake, I know! and I know! lol
    I just meant that they won't take the Premarin off the market while it's still so profitable. Plant based won't ever be as profitable for them, because they can't dangle the patent overhead.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 6:30 PM

    Mary S,
    You are right! Always liked that one.
    God Dog

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 6:30 PM

    Cheryl

    #####
    In the beginning, God created the earth and rested.
    Then God created Man and rested.
    Then God created Woman.
    Since then, neither God nor Man has rested.

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at September 6, 2006 6:31 PM

    Ryan - thanks for the list with the phone numbers! Great job.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 6:32 PM

    I getcha, Anna.

    Money makes the world go round.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 6:32 PM

    Goodlatte is our worst enemy in this fight. Now he is trying to add amendments that will cost the federal government money so that it will not pass.
    That is his strategy.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 6:32 PM

    From something I read earlier, the committee is trying to hammer out something acceptable that allows for the unwanted horse issue. I think that is the main hang up with this bill. I believe i read that on the bloodhorse.com It also said they are very close (like 15 votes) So lets go get them and save some equine lives. Anyone who could vote no has never stood next to a horse and looked into those soft brown eyes that trust you. then when they bend their head and blow into your hand you know that there is nothing better in this life. Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 6:32 PM

    They told us in DC that it MUST be passed WITHOUT amendments!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 6:35 PM

    ShelleyA

    That is great. I didn't remember about a rally thats all. I am honored that my quote is being used. Sometime back I posted to use it. No problems!

    Linda Lee
    Just meant that when I was at the rally some people would ask what group I was with. I said a group of people from a Barbaro website and we call ourselves Horse Hands Across America.
    It was never anything official.
    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 05:02 PM

    Horse Hands Across America!
    Keep the Faith!

    P.S. "smile" I am available to travel anywhere to accept an AWARD...

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 6, 2006 6:35 PM

    The only Goodlatte is a ... (couldn't resist) :)

    Back to the phones. Thanks Ryan!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 6:36 PM

    Sorry have to vent an aide in Gingrey's office told me that the exportation of "equine beef" helps in the fight of world hunger?????? @#%$^&*^%$#$%%^&&%%$.I asked for a senior aide. till on hold. Give me patience LORD

    Posted by: Marky at September 6, 2006 6:36 PM

    Afternoon Everyone,

    All is quiet this afternoon. The town hall meeting that was scheduled for this morning that we were going to bring treats for was postponed. We did bring some treats for the staff and our beloved boy. I'm still a little gun shy around those darn green tops. The stitches come out today!! LOL
    The carrots were heading right up to Barbaro.

    Anyway, also wanted to let you know we're planning a trip to Elkton, MD next Tuesday, September 12. It's just an FYI. Thanks again for all your calls and emails!

    WE BELIEVE!!

    Posted by: Rachel at September 6, 2006 6:36 PM

    Posted my last post in the forum under a new thread: Rules Committee Contact Numbers & Names. It posted fine, just letting everyone know. :)

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 6:39 PM

    Hi, Barbaro Team:>) I haven't been able to keep up with all the updates........damn files are "nipping" at my feet.

    I called and emailed my representatives again. Praying for a positive outcome. Our "horsey" friends need to be saved.

    Candles have been lit for our Precious Barbaro and Lost In The Fog.

    I read some posts about the video of Barbaro arriving at the Derby. Didn't I tell you he is just gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous....

    Laura in Key West and J. Carson Black: What is going on with the "bashing" of New Mexico. I am a native of this beautiful state. I live in Albuquerque and I know there are some problems with animal abuse but that goes on everywhere.

    Darn: Back to work................talk to you guys later.

    I'll be with all of you today for the vigil for a positive outcome for HR 503

    Jeanette Cavalier

    Posted by: Jeanette Cavalier at September 6, 2006 6:41 PM

    Ahhh Rachel, thank you for your update. As long as Barbaro is getting his green tops then all is well.

    Alex, I am glad to hear Peter is going to see Barbaro today, been missing Peter's reports. Good to know he is getting to graze with his buddy.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 6:41 PM

    ShelleyA...

    Sorry I didn't see your post...We can post results here...(the issue is in the updates)...
    for those who cannot tune into TV....

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 6:42 PM


    Unfortunately, it is true that the phone answeres are most likely 20-something interns who don't know how the reps are voting.

    It is best to just tell them that you are calling to urge the Comgressman (woman) to join the OVER 200 other congressional representatives who are concerned about the issue, in votine YES on the un-ammended bill.

    Asking them how the Rep is voting just puts them on the spot, then on the defensive. It does not serve our purpose.

    Our purpose is PERSUASION. "Shmooze them", to insure that they feel good enough about the message (and messenger) to pass it along. Thank them..then hang up, thank God, and start calling the next one.....

    Here comes the stretch!

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 6:43 PM

    MARKY....ask them if that is true, then why is it sold at very high prices as a delicacy...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 6:44 PM

    ########

    Shelley

    "Salazar is not a friend. Not only is he not with us on this bill but he has a "0%" score on ANY animal rights issues."

    That is disheartening...recently the CVMA and AVMA journals, discussing the pending bill, posted exerpts of comments from various legislators. One, a state senator, who is a veterinarian, expressed concern that there was (paraphrasing here) "no viable alternative to the resulting overpopulation" and I was absolutely HURT to read those from ones whom I believed would be supporters. The "reasons" were fairly universal, similar to the state senator's such as "we would have overpopulation of unwanted animals" and "what would we do with the 'surplus'" and "we'd have to euthanize countless animals". none of which have been explained to my satisfaction. I just don't get it.

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 6:45 PM

    Please read the article on this link--there are vets who do support HR503, and have witnessed the slaughter process first-hand, unannounced as it truly is. Dr. Patricia Hogan testified at the Energy Committee hearing. I prefer the testimony of one who has witnessed, over that of one (Dr. Beaver, Texas A&M) who's institution receives funds as a result of slaughter.

    I believe one of the Barbaromaniacs knows Dr. Hogan. ShelleyA? or Deb G?

    http://tritown.gmnews.com/news/2006/0810/Front_Page/035.html

    Posted by: TerryL at September 6, 2006 6:47 PM

    Rachel, God bless...I'd forgotten about your big meeting. Well, that leaves more for others? :)

    Did you get nipped by our Bobby????? How did we miss this????

    Just called Rep. Chris Shays office again, and urged his support with NO amendments. Asked if he would be a co-sponsor, and the aide said he already is, and is working to advise other legislators. He's earning my vote this fall :)

    But I'm worried about that committee....

    Christian/Ryan--please keep us posted. Thanks for all your hard work.

    ShelleyA, you rock!

    Geez, I HAVE to get some work done!!! LOL

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 6, 2006 6:47 PM

    Dr. Hogan saved Smarty's eye. A very fine vet!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 6:47 PM

    #####
    Cheryl J...

    Ewwww...to THAT I would tell them...OK, Yes, then DO just euthenize them...that would be far better than the cruel slaughter techniques...AND that after the initial "necessary" euthenasia take place, far far fewer would be necessary in the future.

    I'm so sad,like you, that they would try to explain awy like this just to be able to keep doing it.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 6:49 PM

    Sweet Barbaro, no updates today? I hope you had ACN. You are loved.
    Fog, keep fighting.

    #######
    Just walked in the door at 1, turned on C-Span and they mentioned HR503, however, they are discussing the important issues of Andre Agasse, the Little League, Commemorative Coins for Abraham Lincoln, and National Life Insurance Awareness Month. How frustrating. (read, I CAN'T TAKE much MORE)Oh wait, now they are on baseball.

    Love to Family and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro

    Posted by: Susan at September 6, 2006 6:50 PM

    Re: Premarin

    When I was first given Premarin, I did not know where it originated from. When I found out, I went ballistic (@8 years ago). I did some research and found out there are numerous soy and plant-based alternatives. I told my doctor I refused to take Premarin and why. She then took me off of it and put me on a plant-based HRT...still required a prescription so someone is still making some money.

    Posted by: SusanB at September 6, 2006 6:50 PM

    Marky,

    During this whole thing, that has to be the most stupid response that I've heard yet!! The horsemeat is not even offered to the hungary or poor. It is a very expensive delicacy on menus of fancy restuarants!
    You really need to set them straight with the real facts.
    Scary, that people with so little knowledge are involved in something so important!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 6:50 PM

    ######
    Jane, you and me BOTH ;) haha I have done very little work today but I've been doing more important things (if I get in trouble so be it ;) )

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 6:51 PM

    Sarah, LOL at the Jack Bauer comment, a good shot to the knee should convince them. LOL

    I called Rep Ileana Ros-Lehtinen's office earlier, she is supposed to call me back. She is also who I hope to take the petition (synthetic track) to when we get more sigs on it. I used to speak with her on occasion when I was with the radio station, maybe I can get a feel for what is up behind the scenes if she call back.

    I am home sick from work. I will try to keep up and stay up.

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 6, 2006 6:51 PM

    James McGovern is for the bill.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 6:51 PM

    #####
    Marky,

    Tell them to promote Farming. Our society does not consider cows, chickens, turkeys, ducks, pigs, like we do horses! God made horses to be more intelligent. Grow more crops to feed the hungry.

    Horse Hands Across America!
    Keep the Faith!

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 6, 2006 6:52 PM

    Dr Patty Hogan is who treated Alibi with shock wave therapy for his bucked shins.
    She's a wonderful person and a real supporter of this bill.
    She asked me how her testimony came across and I said she was great!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 6:54 PM


    Well Barbaro,

    I have made my calls and have spent some time here with some very nice people. I must do "otherthings" for awile, but I'll be back later.

    I am hoping for an update as to how you are faring today. I know it's been a busy one.... Later, Dear Heart.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 6, 2006 6:54 PM

    So glad to hear from Kennett Florist and that Barbaro had a really great weekend. I sure hope the ban will go through and no more horses will be slaughtered. It is too cruel and brutal for those horses to have to endure the type of inhumane, cruel beyond belief treatment they receive when they are slaughtered so viciously. I will prayer that people that have the power to stop it , will. I will always pray for Barbaro's well being and good health as well. Someone asked me at school today how the horse was doing. I was happy and eager to reply, "Fantastic!"

    Posted by: Amie at September 6, 2006 6:55 PM

    Please do not feel bad about reminding your reps that this is an election year.

    If they are "unsure" on how they are going to vote, You should remind them, that in the not so distant future when the shoe is on the other foot and they come knocking on your door for support, that you unlike them, WILL be sure on how to vote.

    And I encourage you all to remember how these people vote. If they are not serving your best interests, then they don't deserve your vote, or your families votes and so on. There is absolutely no harm in reminding them.

    Any may God have mercy on any Rep who votes No tomorrow and knocks on a Barbaro fans door.

    I think we all know the outcome of that unfortunate predicament. Something about a carrot and someone not being able to walk properly.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 6:56 PM

    Doris Matsui is a co-sponsor of the bill.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 6:56 PM

    Summary of Amendments Submitted to the Rules Committee for
    H.R. 503 - To amend the Horse Protection Act to prohibit the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses and other equines to be slaughtered for human consumption, and for other purposes.

    Listed in Alphabetical Order
    September 06, 2006 12:21pm

    Goodlatte (VA) #2
    (LATE) Provides that the Federal government will take over the burden of caring for unwanted horses.

    Goodlatte (VA) #4
    (LATE) Requires the Secretary of Agriculture to consider the prohibition on the movement, showing, exhibition, or sale of sore horses, and prohibition on the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses to be slaughtered for human consumption when carrying out antemortem inspections as required by the Federal Meat Inspection Act.

    Goodlatte (VA) #8
    (LATE) Provides that the Federal government will reimburse State and local governments for the costs incurred in caring for abandoned or unwanted horses.

    Goodlatte (VA) #9
    (LATE) Provides that the Secretary of Agriculture must certify that sufficient horse sanctuaries exist to care for unwanted horses before the law will take effect.

    Goodlatte (VA) #5
    (LATE) Provides that the prohibitions in H.R. 503 would not apply with respect to slaughter in existing horse plants.

    Goodlatte (VA) #3
    (LATE) Provides that H.R. 503 will take effect with respect to any State where it is in violation of the laws thereof to ship, transport, move, deliver, receive, possess, purchase, sell, or donate any horse or other equine to be slaughtered for human consumption.

    Goodlatte (VA) #6
    (LATE) Provides that H.R. 503 will not take effect until a referendum of horse owners has been conducted, the outcome of which demonstrates that a majority of horse owners agree that a ban on horse slaughter should be implemented.

    Goodlatte (VA) #7
    (LATE) Replaces "horse or other equine" in H.R. 503 with "registered thoroughbred horse".

    King, Steve (IA) #1
    Provides that equines can be shipped, transported, moved, delivered, received, posessed, purchased, sold, or donated for slaughter for human consumption by Native Americans or people from other cultures that eat equine meat.


    U.S. House of Representatives
    Committee on Rules
    H-312 The Capitol
    Washington, DC 20515
    202-225-9191 Privacy Policy

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 6:56 PM

    Good afternoon Alex! hope you didn't hurt your hand. And thanx for letting us know the updates about our baby will be later. Thanx KF for the update!

    What a beautiful poem! I wish a copy could be mailed to every rep who is not on board. They need to be reminded of the place in our history that horses have.


    I've tried calling but am told the circuits are busy, but I'll keep on trying.

    Hey Barbaro sweetie! how's my beautiful boy? Doing good? Maybe go out grazing today? ohhhh fun! I heard Dr R has left you again! You're gonna have to have a meeting of minds with him, babycakes!

    Sorry I'm late again, didn't wanna be. Twitch the ears and be your usual gracious self while I warble

    Eat your carrots every day
    Where's Doc R? You wanna play!

    Sunshine, brezes, grass everywhere
    There is nothing to compare

    Grow hoof grow! Heal leg heal!
    That's become our daily appeal

    Keep on doing like you are
    You're our bright and shining star!

    Have a great day sweet Barbaro, I'll be back later to check up on you. Hugs and smoochies!

    Foggy, stay strong beautiful one. Praying that the chemotherapy will help.

    Posted by: Toby at September 6, 2006 6:57 PM

    ####

    Cathy J...yes, just think of all of those "surplus" horses thumbing rides, cutting in line at the market and cruisin' down the highway in their convertibles...

    OH the inconvenience...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 6:57 PM

    ### Laura: LOL, I love Jack Bauer.

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:00 PM

    Susan B,
    you can bet the alternatives aren't AS profitable as Premarin is. That was my point, sorry if I didn't word that as clearly as I ought.

    My doc is still in favor of Premarin. He also knows I won't use it. I don't think he's truly aware of what goes into obtaining the ingredients.

    How many women have developed cancer from this product, or had strokes? It's not just horse lives we're trying to save, here.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 7:01 PM

    OKAY.... just got off the phone with a senior Gingrey aide who apologized after I calmly--Thank you Otherlynn-- expressed my shock at the "horse meat as an end to world hunger" argument. This man had a brain, and said if that were true then why not dogs and cats. I said exactly!!!! I repeated the facts I have on my cheat sheet--Thank you manias-- and he said that the rep is seriously considering the ammendment Sheesh , I need a Valium.

    Barbaro Ayudame!!!!

    Posted by: Marky at September 6, 2006 7:01 PM

    Please everyone remember,YOUR VOTE COUNTS ALSO, no one can take that away from you!!!!!!!!

    Carol-Pittsburgh

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at September 6, 2006 7:01 PM

    By the way, my rep, Sue Myrick, is a cosponsor of the bill.

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:03 PM

    What do you do when you know your rep is not on board, won't get on board and could care less about how you feel on this subject?

    That's my predicament. Rep Kevin Brady,(R) and I are never in agreement on anything. I don't vote for him, but he gets elected, and therefore, I'm stuck with him!

    It's infuriating that the Texas delegation is against this bill. They choose to forget just how large a role in the development of Texas horses played. They pander to an industry that isn't even American!

    Posted by: Toby at September 6, 2006 7:03 PM

    """""""""
    LOL Shannon, I needed that laugh, i just hope the carrot is not a Posse member...what a cruel end!

    Posted by: Marky at September 6, 2006 7:04 PM

    #####

    We will make sure the carrot is inserted sideways.

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:07 PM

    Toby, do I know THAT well. I have the same problem. At least by calling you've added your voice to thousands of others, and in the long run maybe he'll turn craven and worry about how mad his constituents are.

    And at least you got to say something.

    But I know how you feel. Every time I've called my congressman, my protest has ended in the circular file, and three months later I get some dry letter about why he supported shock therapy for puppies.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 7:07 PM

    Wonder if Goodlatte (VA) has some sort of financial gain somewhere in horse meat - look at all that crap he wants amended!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 7:08 PM

    Have to go- everybody keep working it. We can win this one! Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 7:09 PM

    Have to go- everybody keep working it. We can win this one! Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 6, 2006 7:09 PM

    Follow the money...

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 7:09 PM

    ####

    SHOCK THERAPY FOR PUPPIES? WHAT THE HAY...

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:10 PM

    BARBARO wrote: callin is reely outa the kwestshun becuz the sellfish fone buttns too little for hoooofffs but i eeemaillled

    YOU'RE MAKING ME CRACK UP AGAIN, BOBBY!! Tell your pal Cheryl..


    Posted by: Christine at September 6, 2006 7:11 PM

    ###

    Toby,

    I would take the angle on Foreign based companies making 12 million and paying 5 dollars in taxes. Dont mention a word about horses, The 12 million and tax evasion seemed to be a real eye opener at the last hearing, even for those who previously could not really care about the horses.

    They did care about the 12 million in revenue made by a Foreign company.

    Here is a link with a little bit of the info.

    Other points of arguments

    Michael Matz's In Pectore, took 2nd :)

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 7:11 PM

    ###

    Chris .. most of those amendments destroy the good works of the bill. That's the way DC works.

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:12 PM

    Shock therapy for puppies - that was a joke. But it's not too far away from slaughtering horses, so, who knows...? If there's a big enough lobby for it, could happen!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 7:12 PM

    Ok...I've got some people calling here in MO. Thanks for all of the encouragement. I'll probably not be back here for a while....my fingers and mouth are busy elsewhere.

    See you guys later. Keep fighting.

    Posted by: Sheila at September 6, 2006 7:13 PM

    ### J. Carson...whew, that really freaked me out

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:14 PM

    Toby,
    you don't vote for that person again, and remind your friends of how he/she stands.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 7:15 PM

    Sorry! I have a really weird sense of humor.

    I agree with Shannon and Zeena, Toby. Go for the unfairness of a foreigner making money off us. That does it every time. Also, I'm sure he hates France! Use it.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 7:15 PM

    Well, I just got off the phone. I started out very nice and polite. Told him I was aware that Rep Brady was not on board with this bill and I wanted him to know that, as a constituent, I was letting him know my feelings about that.

    This aide told me he will type it up in "the date base and Rep Brady will read it". Unfortunately, at that point I lost my temper. I told him he could also put in that data base that someday Rep Brady would come up for re election and that consituents like me have long memories. I said that Rep Brady needed to keep in mind, also, that he is supporting the slaughter of American horses for the benefit of foreign interests. *sigh* all I received in reply was a "thank you ma'am"

    Posted by: Toby at September 6, 2006 7:16 PM

    ###

    Marky, thank god I am a sausage!

    Sarah, lol@sideways.. insert " Ohhh thats gotta hurt"

    Pam, I am with ya on the annoying surplus horses, always requiring a clean up on aisle 6 (Cereal and grains) And having more then 20 items when it clearly says " Express, 12 items or less" sheesh...this is an outrage!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 7:17 PM

    Just spoke with a dear friend in MA who is running for LT Governor. He is going to call me back with any update, advice or contacts in DC to assist us with HR 503. I also contacted Richard Neal, Congressman in DC (a personal friend from Massachusetts) and Senator Brewer from MA (another family friend), and am awaiting phone calls with any help they can offer.

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 6, 2006 7:17 PM

    It amazes me that two racing industries slaughter, Horses and Greyhounds. Makes me sick! I've seen and heard things I wish I hadn't, but I will neer forget it either.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 7:18 PM

    Toby,
    some of them are beyond reach, but when I say that as an American I am outraged that the rep supports TAX BREAKS for foreign companies who slaughter our NATURAL RESOURCES I get a nice sweaty pause. Remind them foreigners cannot vote.

    Posted by: Marky at September 6, 2006 7:18 PM

    Barbaro:
    Hey Bud, if you're having trouble dialng those little buttons with your hooves, maybe you can ask Peter to help when he comes to graze you later...?

    Everybody working the phones: You guys rock. Per Maid M: Keep your collective cools, esp. if/when those around you are losing theirs.

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at September 6, 2006 7:19 PM

    #### Anna, I didn't vote for that man! Unfortunately we have a lot of stupid people who never read up on issues, vote mindlessly based on party.

    Posted by: Toby at September 6, 2006 7:19 PM

    Really EXCELLENT article about the medical advances in equine fracture repair (including Barbaro's.

    Well worth reading if you're interested in the medical aspects.

    http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/horsehealth/hhview.asp?recno=66319&subsec=

    Stay strong, Bobby!

    Posted by: smitty at September 6, 2006 7:20 PM

    ####
    Anybody out there in Alabama's 3rd Congressional District: Our Rep. Mike Rogers is not on board for H. R. 503. Please call his office _at once_ to urge him to vote for the bill _without amendments_. His numbers are
    (202) 225-3261 tel
    (202) 226-8485 fax

    Posted by: Carolyn at September 6, 2006 7:20 PM

    #########
    TEEEHEEE Shannon and Sarah, I some humor to keep sounding sane on the phone.

    Posted by: Marky at September 6, 2006 7:21 PM

    Toby, these are congressmen and congresswomen. That means - every two years they're up for reelection. And incumbents are worried. This is the perfect time to hold their feet to the fire. Tell them you and all your soccer mom friends - and there are roughly 500 of them - don't be afraid to use the words "soccer moms" -are trying to explain to their kids why their representative in Congress wants to kill Dreamer so some snooty Frenchman can eat her with his French Fries.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 7:24 PM

    Racing fans - Race 7 is up right away at Delaware, if you need some inspiration to keep up the fight today, Turn it on and watch those Jackson Lael Stables colors on Surprise Inside streak across the screen. Win lose or whatever, that is enough for me!

    Alex thanks for the update, I am thrilled PB has been able to be up there with Barbaro, I am sure they both enjoyed seeing each other again.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 7:25 PM

    I just called my senators from GA and they will be supporting the HR503.

    Thanks Shelley A!!

    Good afternoon Barbaro! I hope it's nice at NBC today so you can graze. Love you beautiful Barbaro!

    Posted by: SueH at September 6, 2006 7:26 PM

    TO ALL! AND I WILL EMAIL SHELLEY A - AS WELL!

    DEBRA, WI REPORTING FOR WISCONSIN

    Well, here in Wisconsin there are only 2 reps that won't support the H.R.503 bill. One of them being Paul Ryan who I contacted and told Kate, his press secretary this morning that we Wisconsinites wouldn't give up until we spoke directly with PAUL RYAN!

    WELL, Paul Ryan did call. He was nice enough to speak with me personally for 1/2 hour and unfortunately, we weren't able to change his mind. Pauls fear is if the Slaughter Bill is passed, the next bill that might come is a bill that would ban slaughter of cattle, etc.

    You have to understand that Wisconsin is farm country/dairy farms, etc.
    Paul is very concerned about the farmers retirement (being, for some - their cattle). If the farmers rights to have their cattle slaughtered were taken away, the farmers cattle would have no value.

    This just made me wish I was born a vegetarian.m :-( (THERE HAS GOT TO BE ANOTHER WAY)

    SORRY GUYS...however our other reps and Senators are on board.

    Posted by: Debra, WI at September 6, 2006 7:28 PM

    #########
    J Carson - I loved that movie (Dreamer).

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 7:29 PM

    ######

    J. Carson Black...That was just too classic!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 7:30 PM

    Way to go Barbaro!!! You ROCK!! It may have taken a bit longer to get the good news but we all knew it was going to be good! You have ACD and ACN! Ya know,
    that Dr. R has been away a bit too much of late. I think when he gets back you need to remind him where
    he belongs, ya know with a few love nips here and there!

    Prayers continue for LITF....love you....

    Karen - TN

    Posted by: Karen at September 6, 2006 7:30 PM

    Yeah! I got 4 people at my office to call our Rep. and Congressman! My roommate is calling now. They had no idea what was going on...they do now!

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 6, 2006 7:30 PM

    ACD! We love that! You go Barbaro! We take nothing for granted. Love and light to you and to Foggy.

    Posted by: Jo-Ann at September 6, 2006 7:34 PM

    pssst, Toby...HE doesn't know you dinna vote for him!

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 7:35 PM

    Thanks, Alex!

    I bet that made Peter's day!

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 7:36 PM

    Peter's call and the good news, officially, today gives me the motivation to continue even more (if that's possible) on this quest to call so many people.

    Fingers and toes crossed for our success tomorrow.

    Posted by: Skyler at September 6, 2006 7:37 PM

    way to go, Kathy J.!

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 7:38 PM

    a relief-- just called my representative and hadn't realized he is a co sponsor of the anti slaughter bill-- his office is very very much hoping to end this-- I didn't have to go into my thoughts since they had them already

    lyn

    Posted by: lyn lifshin at September 6, 2006 7:39 PM

    AWWWWW, Alex, thanks for the update.
    I bet Peter just loved grazing our boy.

    Posted by: Tracie at September 6, 2006 7:40 PM

    Oh, Peter took Bobby grazing for the first time since before the Preakness ! What a wonderful, special time they must have had together. This is great news.


    RE: ANTI SLAUGHTER

    I found two co-workers who live in John Shimkus' district in IL. They didn't know about the slaughter till today. They are horrified, outraged, they're making calls, and they're getting others to call, too.

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 7:40 PM

    WOW - Loved seeing those colors, Jacksons/Michael Matz - Surprise Inside just took 2nd.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 7:41 PM

    I just called all five offices of Goodlatte, saying I was shocked to learn how he has larded up the provisions so the bill won't pass. I said that all my relatives live in his districts, and they have children they're trying to explain this to. I think Goodlatte should be hammered, and hammered hard, particularly by anyone living in Virginia. He's a congressman - remember - they're up for election Every Two Years!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 7:41 PM

    I bet Peter was on Cloud Nine! He loves that horse so much.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 7:43 PM

    AWWWW, Peter got to take Barbaro out for a grass break!! (not the smoking kind!).

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:45 PM

    Peter won't be able to sleep tonight. A nice reunion for the two of them.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 7:45 PM

    I've called 7 of 14 who aren't on board in California. It's hard to really speak with anyone, most put me through to a voicemail or just take down my message. Fortunately my Congresswoman Bono is a co-sponsor and WILL be voting tomorrow according to the voice on the other end.
    If anyone out there is in Cardoza's district, hit him hard. He has received support from the racing community. I can't believe he could not support the bill.
    Spoke to a nice man at Hondas office but no incling of him changing. Really bad vibes fro Radanovich. The voice on the other side could barely articulate. Didn't know who T Boone Pickens is. I'm not sure he was even old enough to vote. FRUSTRATED!!!

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 7:46 PM

    Debra WI

    That's the argument that the opponents are hiding behind. They are trying to instill fear that other rights will soon be gone.
    The big difference is that cattle are bred for human consumption and we here in this country would NEVER let that change.

    Horses are not bred for human comsumption and we don't eat them in this country.

    But they feel that if they use this argument, they can justify their position. It's like mixing apples and oranges. I've recently heard that the cattle companies get $$ for every horse slaughtered to keep them going with this position.

    You did the best you could. Sometimes, people just don't want to know the truth because they have different agenda's. He's probably tight with the cattle industry and will vote how they want.
    We can't win them all.....we just need a majority.

    Thanks for trying!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 7:49 PM

    DEBRA FROM WI.....I think your congressman's explanation about the fear that cattle/dairy farming will be impacted by this bill is why perhaps the Texas delegation is against this also ... since Texas is a big beef cattle industry.

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:51 PM

    ALEX,
    Thanks for the update on Big B and Peter. I am still waiting for your journalistic talents to get an interview with Peter and another with Edgar. I know they must have some great stories about being with Barbaro.

    RE: HR503
    HSUS website says 12,211 people have called congress!! I just called my rep Susan Davis who is a sponsor and I have been informed that she is still voting YES on the resolution.

    Sending positive thoughts for the vigil tonight.
    Carol
    SD

    Posted by: Carol at September 6, 2006 7:53 PM

    But Shelley is right...Congress folks using the cattle thing as an excuse.

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:55 PM

    Is 12,211 phone calls to Congress considered a lot in one day??

    Posted by: Sarah at September 6, 2006 7:56 PM

    Just called Rep. Gilmore (my rep...UGH!!!!!),Ohio
    Of course the aide refused "to speak for the Congressman" when I inquired as to if Gilmore's position had changed to support HR 503.
    He then wanted to relay my message to the Congressman. Oh really????? Hmmm...what would I want relayed???
    My filter was working (checking what I was going to say.....)
    I did hit the tax issue and that the US was doing the dirty work for France and other countries.

    Carrots ROCK!!!
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 6, 2006 7:57 PM

    Hope you're having a great day Barbaro! Enjoy your treats, grazing outside and all the TLC from your loving staff at NBC. You're such an amazing boy and we all love you so very, very much!

    Lost in the Fog, I'm praying for you honey. You're a beautiful, brave boy and I believe in you. You're loved by so very many people, and I know this love will help see you through your difficult time. Hang in there honey and feel the love!

    Remember to call your reps and tell them to support H.R. 503! I'm happy to say that my rep, Jay Inslee, is totally on board! He has responded to me twice and has stated that he is "ardently opposed" to horse slaughter in the U.S. Thank you Mr. Inslee...so glad I voted for ya!!!

    Have a great day everyone! I'm so proud to be part of this wonderful, compassionate community here at TWR!

    There will be miracles...
    when you believe.

    Posted by: Sandie at September 6, 2006 7:59 PM

    Send this link to the people that think it's okay to send horses to slaughter

    http://www.justsaywhoa.org/abuse.asp

    Please be warned.....this is VERY disturbing and will cause nightmares.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 7:59 PM

    PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!

    I AM ON LIAL UP AND HAVE TO SHUT PUTER DOWN FOR CALLS. I HAVE MADE SOME CALLS BUT DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH THE POSTS OR FORUM TO SEE WHAT STATES REALLY REALLY NEED ATTENTION..

    SOMEONE...PLEASE TELL ME THE MOST IMPORTANT CALLS TO MAKE RIGHT AT THIS TIME...ONLY GOT LIKE 25 MINUTES LEFT BEFORE THEY CALL IT A DAY....HELP...

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 6, 2006 8:02 PM

    J. Carson Black

    Oh yes! I most certainly did tell his aide to put in his data base that he will come up for re election and that his not being on board will be remembered.

    Posted by: Toby at September 6, 2006 8:02 PM

    I'm sorry for posting the above link....it's SO disturbing that I don't think any of you should look at it. I made the mistake of opening it and it made me really sick.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 8:03 PM

    OOPS should have been dial up...can't type to well right now

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 6, 2006 8:03 PM

    ##########

    I just called Mike Honda's Office in DC. HE STILL HASN'T MADE UP HIS MIND!!!! ARRRRRGH...I feel like crying.

    This time they took my name, phone number and e-mail address. They are passing my message along to the Congressman and will either call or e-mail me when he makes his decision.


    I'm thinking of making a fax to send to his office. A menu with items such as:

    Barbaro Stew
    Secretariat Burger
    Seabiscuit Cake
    Etc Etc.

    Maybe he will get the point!!!!

    ########


    (((Bobby))) and (((All Horses)))

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 6, 2006 8:04 PM

    Sharonlynn,

    Do you want the list of the Rules Committee? They are meeting in an hour and they are the ones that are deciding whether to include the horrible amendments that Salazar and others proposed. If so I can post their names and numbers for you. Let me know. I'll keep refreshing my screen.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 8:06 PM

    Pat...I called Honda's office too but I'm not a constituent, I'm in So Cal. Do you have a FAX number? If he is on the fence maybe a few FAXes will help.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 8:07 PM

    Pat, stay cool - we don't want to sound like fanatics - we must remain calm and professional.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 6, 2006 8:07 PM

    RYAN....yea...that gives me alittle more time...please post..as long as I can call them...I'm on it.

    We got to cover our bases...thanks

    Give a brief "what to say" to me please...so many calls today, I am getting braindead

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 6, 2006 8:10 PM

    Don't apologize, Shelley A. I agree it is appalling and disturbing and I didn't have the nerve to delve into it very far. But I did read the poem The Last Breath written by I believe, a 13 year old girl. I cried, but it brought the reality home so poignantly it was worth reading. I agree it should be sent to those who so cavalierly say its okay to kill these beautiful, loving animals.

    Posted by: Jo-Ann at September 6, 2006 8:11 PM

    You GO BOBBY...Graze all you want! You deserve it! Was it good to be out with Peter again???
    We love you, Handsome!!!!

    Posted by: Ernie at September 6, 2006 8:12 PM

    ShelleyA,

    I've been having nightmares and sleepless nights since educating myself about this issue a couple of months ago. I did not think it was possible to shed so many tears. These graphic images, as horrible as they are to look at and always send me into a sobbing jag, are a necessary evil in order to depict just how horrendous and brutal horse slaughter is.

    Here's another article depicting the cruelty that takes place before these poor horses even make it to the slaughterhouses. This man was cited for animal cruelty and yet was still allowed to take the horses on to slaughter...I just don't understand that! I thought when a person was charged with animal cruelty, the animal is taken away from them. I find it frightening to think that there are people living among us that are capable of working or being involved in this industry. Talk about losing one's soul, if they ever had one to being with!

    WARNING: Graphic images:

    http://www.saplonline.org/news/texarkana.htm

    Posted by: Sandie at September 6, 2006 8:12 PM

    ##########
    Have a little bit of comic relief for everyone:

    How do you know you haven't done much work at work?

    A. You pressed refresh on this site a billion times

    B. You almost forgot to take your lunch break

    C. You didn't take your two 15 min breaks

    D. Time goes way too fast and you are actually sad to leave work cause you know you can't get back on this site for 45 mins ;)

    (this is just ever-so-slightly autobiographical ;) )

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan Jones at September 6, 2006 8:12 PM

    Ryan, didn't you put it up earlier? That's good - that's where we need to put up a fight. On the Rules Committee.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 8:13 PM

    Cathy Potter-

    Mike Honda
    District Office
    1999 South Bascom Ave
    Suite 815
    Campbell, CA 95008
    Phone: (408) 558-8085
    Fax: (408) 558-8086


    Washington, DC
    1713 Longworth HOB
    Washington, DC 20515
    Phone: (202) 225-2631
    Fax: (202) 225-2699

    ######

    Chris Beyers- I used to be a Client Service Rep. Trust me I know how to act on the phone. :) I was very polite and professional with the young lady who answered the phone. After I hung up I just had to vent....:)

    However, I still think the menu idea is a good one...;)

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 6, 2006 8:14 PM

    Ok, got another person converted and she's calling her rep, John Shimkus, IL.

    I might have an Arkansas attorney acquaintance rounding up some action down there. Hopefully....!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 8:14 PM

    Ryan, I thoroughly resemble that post.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 8:16 PM

    We're wise to you, Anna! ;)

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 8:17 PM

    Just reposting this...as we have 45 mins left till they meet...


    Their number, I found was: 202-225-9191

    Not sure if that goes to one or all of them. I will be calling it though.

    Just in case you didn't know, apparently there were more amendments that were submitted late to the Comittee as of 12:21 today.

    It's kind of long so I won't post the whole thing but here is the link to it:

    http://www.rules.house.gov/amendment_details.aspx?NewsID=1796

    Here is the page for the members of the committee thats lists them by name including states:

    http://www.rules.house.gov/rules_members.htm

    I also checked their schedule and they are meeting today at 5pm EST to discuss the amendments. So we should contact them as soon as we can before they meet. I'm guessing that after the meeting they will have what they will present to the House floor tomorrow.

    Here are the members' names and respective numbers below their name:

    DAVID DREIER, CA - CHAIRMAN
    202) 225-2305

    LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART, FL
    202) 225-4211

    LOUISE McINTOSH SLAUGHTER, NY - Ranking Minority Member
    (202) 225-3615

    DOC HASTINGS, WA
    (202) 225-5816

    JAMES P. McGOVERN, MA
    (202) 225-6101

    PETE SESSIONS, TX
    (202) 225-2231

    ALCEE HASTINGS, FL
    (202) 225-1313

    ADAM PUTNAM, FL
    (202) 225-1252

    DORIS O. MATSUI, CA
    (202) 225-7163

    SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, WV
    (202) 225-2711

    TOM COLE, OK
    (202) 225 6165

    ROB BISHOP, UT
    (202) 225-0453

    PHIL GINGREY, GA
    (202) 225-2931

    Hope this info helps :)

    Ryan

    This is posted in the forum under "Anti Slaughter" (did it earlier) under House Rules Numbers & Names

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 8:17 PM

    We're running out of time. I think these offices will be closing in about 45 minutes!!
    Panic is starting to set in.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 8:17 PM

    Sweet Barbaro,

    How wonderful you are, do you even know??? You have inspired and army of people to come to your aid and cherish you every day.

    May the Lord continue to bless you and keep you healthy.

    I have made all my phone calls and I pray that the good in man will prevail in tomorrows vote.

    Posted by: Leigh in Austin, TX at September 6, 2006 8:18 PM

    omigod....I live in a state that is among the highest in horse population per capita. A state that houses one of the finest, most progressive equine veterinary medicine programs in the world, and my elected officials, two of whom I openly admit having helped to vote into office....DON'T SEEM TO CARE!!!!!!

    living in a cave looks real good right now.. in a vast open area with nothing but mustangs as neighbors

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 8:18 PM

    RYAN...thank you much...I copied and gonna put it on word so I can get off the puter and make the calls....

    see you guys later....we can do this!!!!

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 6, 2006 8:19 PM

    So glad to see the H.R. 503 train rolling full steam ahead! It's so wonderful to see everyone working so hard for this!!! I'm so proud of everyone! We're bound to get this pushed through this time!!!

    Called my rep this morning - (Culberson, TX) and voiced my concern and urged his support. Introduced myself as a registered voter (sometimes it perks them up a bit). I don't expect his support as his track record for any animal friendly legislation is dismal at best. But, I made my voice heard and followed up with another email.

    Barbaro - glad Peter got out to see you and that you got outside for a bit! You just keep on healing!

    Alex, you've done wonders for all of us! Thank you, Thank you!

    -Julie Z.

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 6, 2006 8:22 PM

    Shelley,

    Yeah, I would imagine they are closing at 5pm, 5:30 I would guess at the latest. We know the Rules Committee is meeting at 5pm so I would imagine that they will leave their offices to go to the meeting shortly as its 4:22 EST right now.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 8:23 PM

    Okay....since time is running out, these are the names of the people on the committee that we will have the most problem with. Bad record on animal rights.
    Cole
    Sessions
    Bishop
    Gingrey

    These are the four worst so maybe we can spend the next 30 mnutes going after them

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 8:26 PM

    I have started e-mailing all the major networks about HR 503. If the vote is delayed by a day, then there is the possibility that some, any, alot of publicity might sway votes with public censure and exposure of the real facts. Last Sunday morning, George Stepanopolous had a news clip of Bo Derrick talking about horse slaughter before Congress. We need that on nightly news.

    Posted by: Dale at September 6, 2006 8:26 PM

    Okay, am I reading these wrong? Does amendment #7 mean that only registered thoroughbred horses won't be slaughtered, but all other types of horses can be?

    Amendment #1: What? Isn't this the problem to begin with? That there are cultures that condone the consumption of horse flesh? Doesn't this amendment pretty much keep horse slaughter for human consumption abroad alive?

    I'm not understanding this at all!! Can someone enlighten me please?

    Goodlatte (VA) #7
    (LATE) Replaces "horse or other equine" in H.R. 503 with "registered thoroughbred horse".

    King, Steve (IA) #1
    Provides that equines can be shipped, transported, moved, delivered, received, posessed, purchased, sold, or donated for slaughter for human consumption by Native Americans or people from other cultures that eat equine meat

    Posted by: Sandie at September 6, 2006 8:27 PM

    Alex, thank you so much for the update, you are a prince!

    BELIEVE IN MIRACLES
    BELIEVE IN BARBARO

    Carol-Pittsburgh

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at September 6, 2006 8:28 PM

    Cheryl Jones,
    Are you in Colorado too. It infuriates me that our state representative use the images of the open plains with horses running free for thir political commercials and gain and then do not support legislation to stop the cruelty.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 8:29 PM

    I contacted my rep's office in Tennessee and they said they didn't know how she was going to vote. I gave them my feeling on it. He took my name, address and phone number. Here's keeping fingers crossed we win this!

    Posted by: Karen at September 6, 2006 8:29 PM

    I emailed my daughter at work (Castle Rock) and she is getting the entire bank and all of her friends in the Denver area to call their reps. Maybe these guys in congress need a big wake-up call. I, for one, will be keeping a CLOSE EYE on ALL of their voting from now on.

    Posted by: Deborah A./ Colorado at September 6, 2006 8:30 PM

    Alex

    sorry... was blowing off steam that is still spewing out of my ears...Thanks for the update. Peter, thank you too You guys rock!

    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 8:31 PM

    Ryan,
    I'm starting to get hysterical and can't find your thread on the forum all of a sudden. Can you copy my above post with names of the committee members to target???

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 8:31 PM

    #####
    Carolyn
    Anybody out there in Alabama's 3rd Congressional District: Our Rep. Mike Rogers is not on board for H. R. 503. Please call his office _at once_ to urge him to vote for the bill _without amendments_. His numbers are
    (202) 225-3261 tel
    (202) 226-8485 fax


    Posted by: Carolyn at September 6, 2006 07:20 PM

    Carolyn yes I faxed, emailed and called him. and I am not in his District: :)
    Jo Bonner is, his phone 202-225-4931
    " " fax 202-225-0562
    Are we the only two on the site form Alabama?

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 6, 2006 8:31 PM

    ###TLC,
    And don't forget all of the commercials they make wearing cowboy hats, like they really care about the land, animals, etc.

    Posted by: Deborah A./ Colorado at September 6, 2006 8:31 PM

    okay, Ryan, thank you for the numbers- I just contacted Mr. Sessions' office- the young lady was polite, non-committal, other than to say they've received many phone calls about this.
    She thanked me, too.

    Jake, whatever do you mean? :Ţ

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 8:32 PM

    Don't forget even if thier office is closed the fax machine will still work and e-mail too!

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 6, 2006 8:32 PM

    Sandie,

    I think you are understanding it correctly. That's the was I took the amendments too.
    That's his way to get it not to pass!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 8:33 PM

    Dale - & everyone -

    Nightline is featuring the issue tonite. It'll be on ABC, after the late news.

    I only saw ONE Houston station carry the story yesterday, but it was their top story and they did a great job (KHOU).

    Reading Goodlatte's amendments - the man just makes my skin crawl. Let's hope he's voted right out of office next election.

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 6, 2006 8:34 PM

    OK...These people have no idea how they are going to vote, yet they have the time to make last minute ammendments?

    Remember this when they are at your door. Ammend your foot to their backside.

    Anyone got the numbers handy for those 4 sticklers Shelley mentioned with the bad animal rights past? I got 22 minutes...

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 8:34 PM

    Sandie,

    Those two mean this:

    1. that if the culture eats equine meat as part of their culture it can be sold and sent to them.

    This is the problem and by adding this in, they are trying to "pass" it with conditions that really undermine the whole Bill.

    2. The other would only allow thoroughbred meat to be sold not all equine meat.

    So it bans some not all. Both conditions still allow for this slaughtering to continue and that is why persuading the Rules Committee to NOT allow the amendments set forth by the Ag Committee is very important. They meet in 25 mins to decide.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 8:36 PM

    Deborah A.

    For sure!!! They really make me angry - what a bunch of hypocrits!!!

    Do we know for sure how our reps are voting?? All I have heard is "undecided". How embarassing for a political figure not to know how they feel about an important issue.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 8:36 PM

    Ryan,

    I fired myself three times today. ((REFRESH))

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 6, 2006 8:37 PM

    Ryan, I called every single one of the Rules Committee. Talked to some very nice young folks, didn't let them get a word in edgewise. I said I wanted them to vote for the bill, but even it they didn't, I wanted them to not allow Goodlatte's provisions. I appealed to their sense of Fair Play. How Unamerican it was---to let the bill pass or fail on its own merits, and then I read some of the more outrageous provisions. We've got to get them in the rules committee, because one young guy let it slip that his rep was a "co-sponsor" but "wasn't sure how he was going to vote". Probably, because of Goodlatte's amendments.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 8:39 PM

    Okay....since time is running out, these are the names of the people on the committee that we will have the most problem with. Bad record on animal rights.
    Cole 202-225-6165
    Sessions 202-225-2231
    Bishop 202-225-0453
    Gingrey 202-225-2931

    These are the four worst so maybe we can spend the next 30 mnutes going after them

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 08:26 PM

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 8:39 PM

    ###TLC,

    I got a "don't know" from both Salazar and Beauprez. Man, pick a side and admit it.

    Posted by: Deborah A./ Colorado at September 6, 2006 8:41 PM

    Ryan - thank you for all the info!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 8:41 PM

    Just called Pete Session's office to ask that he vote for the HR503 version without amendments.

    He is not my rep, but the only member of the committee from Texas.

    Shelley-Do not panic. We have tried. If it does not pass tomorrow, maybe we can think of a different way to attack this. I hear the people of Kaufman have tried to get the slaughter house closed for enviromental reasons. If a door is closed, a window is opened!

    Posted by: PattyinDallas at September 6, 2006 8:41 PM

    They will begin debate in congress tomorrow at 10AM and then the vote will be taken.

    I don't know if my nerves will hold up for this!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 8:41 PM

    ty - on it

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 8:41 PM

    Is there a web cam link to the committee meeting at 5PM today. I don't remember how we got the last ones. Pam found it

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 8:42 PM

    I had trouble finding it too Shelley - but it is there, just lost in the middle.

    Going to call now..here are the names of all the rules committee one last time:

    DAVID DREIER, CA - CHAIRMAN
    202) 225-2305

    LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART, FL
    202) 225-4211

    LOUISE McINTOSH SLAUGHTER, NY - Ranking Minority Member
    (202) 225-3615

    DOC HASTINGS, WA
    (202) 225-5816

    JAMES P. McGOVERN, MA
    (202) 225-6101

    PETE SESSIONS, TX
    (202) 225-2231

    ALCEE HASTINGS, FL
    (202) 225-1313

    ADAM PUTNAM, FL
    (202) 225-1252

    DORIS O. MATSUI, CA
    (202) 225-7163

    SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, WV
    (202) 225-2711

    TOM COLE, OK
    (202) 225 6165

    ROB BISHOP, UT
    (202) 225-0453

    PHIL GINGREY, GA
    (202) 225-2931

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 8:42 PM

    Hang in there Shelly, we need you!

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 6, 2006 8:43 PM

    I'm starting to feel a little sick to my stomach. I cannot believe these amendments! What in God's name is wrong with these people? I think that every single one of them should have to personally go to a slaughterhouse and be forced to stand there and watch the horror that they are allowing! Maybe then they would have a different outlook. Sometimes you just have to hit people over the head with a 2x4 in order to get them to understand the consequences of their actions! Unbelievable!

    Posted by: Sandie at September 6, 2006 8:43 PM

    #####
    Deborah A.
    I agree whole heartedly - support SOMETHING worthwhile and step up for it!!!

    "I don't know" is such a chicken #@%& answer!!!

    Emabarassing to live in Colorado at this moment huh??

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 8:44 PM

    JUST CALLED SCOTT GARRETT'S ADDRESS(PER SHELLY), THE GUY WAS VERY NICE AND FOR MY ADDRESS ETC.. SO CALL, HE'S NOT GOING TO ASK ANY MAJOR QUESTIONS. I JUST ASKED HIM TO SUPPORT THE ANTI-SLAUGHTER BILL HR 503. ONLY 20 MINUTES LEFT, BUT THEY DON'T VOTE UNTIL TOMORROW, CORRECT??

    LUV YA,
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 8:45 PM

    ####


    Coloradans----

    Laura, Deborah, Susan (and Linda H if you are reading)... I am just sick over this. Of all the hypocritical bureaucratic garbage...only thing I can feel good about right now is that some of the representatives of my birth state of CA are supporting HR 503. I wonder if any of them read the DP this morning with the article about mounted police and thought.."hmmmmm that beautiful QH might end up on someone's plate ...ah well, there is a surplus, after all"

    okay, now I am really losin' it.

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 8:46 PM

    J Carson Black-That's how congress operates these days. They do all their dirty work in the middle of the night. The vote comes early the next day and the reps don't even know what's in the bill.


    There should be a law...oh wait...nevermind. :(

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 6, 2006 8:46 PM

    Shelly A,
    I don't believe in living in the dark. I wish I had stayed there,instead of going to the slaughter site.I'm going home to have a good cry. The poor souls, God Bless them all. Shivering.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 8:47 PM

    Strictly hearsay - but I just got off the phone with Sessions office. The woman said the amendments are still coming in! They are planning to meet at 5 today, and she thought this was the only bill on the floor tomorrow. She said we could go to www.thomas.loc.gov for the bill that will go to the floor, but she wasn't sure of the timeframe regarding when it would be posted.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 8:47 PM

    HERE'S THE PHONE # FROM SHELLY FROM EALIER IN THE WEEK--

    Make the call Sept. 6. Call your U.S. Representative, Scott Garrett, at (202) 225-4465, or call the Congressional switchboard at (202) 224-3121. If you're not sure what to say, try this: "I am a constituent and I am calling to ask that the Representative please protect American horses from slaughter and support H.R. 503, the Horse Slaughter Prevention Act. I also urge you to oppose any amendments to H.R. 503. I am very concerned about American horses and I don't want them slaughtered."

    LUV AND PRAYERS,
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 8:48 PM

    Still sending emails in support of HR503. But I am discouraged; this is a no brainer. What kind of people are our Representatives? How do they live with themselves? How do they sleep at night? Where were they mis-educated? How can they be so mean and so dumb at the same time? Only you Barbaro make me feel better.

    Posted by: laura, nc at September 6, 2006 8:49 PM

    I just phoned the DC offices of Reps. Sessions, Cole, Bishop and Gingrey to urge them to vote for HR 503 and, as members of the Rules Committee, to reject the recently proposed amendments. All four staffers were very nice (and sounded tired!). I stressed that even though I'm not a constituent of theirs, that I'm part of a group of several thousand concerned citizens across the country who have been working to get this legislation passed, and who've been calling all 435 reps. All four aides said they'd pass it on.

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 8:50 PM

    Pat G - Yup, business as usual. And if there's any unfavorable breaking news they don't want you to hear about, they break it on a Friday, because the cable news channels won't pick it up and play it to death.

    It's a great premise for a novel... :)

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 8:50 PM

    Something I NEED to share with you from a phone call I had with a Ohio Rep about an hour ago:


    846.50 in reply to 846.49

    I just want to say THANK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I received some VERY GOOD comments from some reps I have talked to this morning.

    One Rep asked me "WHO are all these BarbaroManiacs? I chuckled and told him OUR story about Barbaro, and the Barbaro Effect. How our love for this horse and what he is going through has brought about awareness of horse slaughter and safety on the track.

    He told me (this is a guy from Ohio) to tell all of you, that you should be PROUD of what you are doing and keep up the great job, we need more voters and supporters to come together for a cause such as this. It is PEOPLE LIKE US that can make a difference in many things, esp for animal rights.

    So to those that meantioned you were a BarbaroManiac, THANK YOU!!!!!!!There is talk about this group of caring horse lovers. You have been NOTICED!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 6, 2006 8:51 PM

    ####
    Just got off the phone with Pete Sessions office in Dallas. She says she doesn't know how he is going to vote tomorrow...right..whatever...we know. She said that she has had ALOT of calls today supporting the bill and encouraging him to do so.
    She said "So we don't know how he will actually vote tomorrow".
    We need more people to call his office.
    Pete Sessions 202-225-2231 I gave my mom's address and my brothers address in Dallas...They are voters in his district.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 8:52 PM

    Yaaayyy

    VIVA Miami, Miami manaiacs heve flooded Diaz-balart and Mack's phones. Both reps are waffling. Cuban Posse Buenisssimo.

    ALL IN GA keep calling GINGREY, 202-225-2931; Aide was shocked at the amount of calls from our state Make them sweat!!!

    Posted by: Marky at September 6, 2006 8:52 PM

    I e-mailed ESPN this morning to request that they cover this story but it's probably too late. I think it would probably bring this issue to the attention of a lot of people who don't know it exists. I remember a few years ago they were the ones who first brought this to my attention. Their "Outside the Lines" program ran an extended story about the slaughter of unwanted thoroughbreds, including Exceller and Ferdinand. The main story was about horses found in completely inhumane conditions in a truck bound for the slaughterhouse. They focused on one older TB who had been a decent runner and who was rescued following an accident involving the truck. When some of his earlier connections found out about his situation, they took him in to make sure he lived out his days in peace. It was a heartbreaking story, and I'm surprised they haven't revisited the issue in light of HR 503.

    Posted by: Amy L. at September 6, 2006 8:53 PM

    It is possible that some of the most recent amendments might strengthen the bill. Those we know about don't. When I called, I tried to distinguish good amendments vs. bad....

    At the VERY least, we're making them sit up and take notice; and they are realizing just how much scrutiny this legislation is receiving.

    The midterm elections are two months from tomorrow.

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 8:53 PM

    They said Diaz was for it, when I spoke to them, oh, about a half hour ago.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 8:53 PM

    Ok Cole - doesnt know how he is going to vote, heading into meeting. Not a co sponsor. Lady said if I wanted to call back tomorrow she could tell me how he voted. I said No thank you, I will be watching to see for myself as will all other voters.

    Sessions - logged my call, someone will call me tomorrow. Gave them the same answer.

    Bishop - waiting to see the final version - I said final version is a play on words and the fact remains the same, it is not acceptable in any form.

    Gingrey - same thing, same answer so I gave my same reply.

    Please people we got tonight to make a difference. Make your call count and let them know how you want the vote to go! Even if you leave a message with whoever answers the phone, your message will be passed along.

    Imagine these people coming back from the meeting with a heap of " While you were out" all saying a unanimous NO on horse slaughter.

    Send them emails with the links Shelley has listed, they will get them in the morning, those images will be imprinted in their heads as they head to vote. We can make a difference.


    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 8:55 PM

    AW, THAT WAS SWEET MARY L OHIO, GAVE ME CHILLS!!! :>)

    I USE TO BE VERY INVOLVED IN ANIMAL RIGHTS FOR CAT & DOGS, BUT THIS HORSE SLAUGHTER IS NEW TO ME, NEVER TOO LATE TO LEARN THOUGH. I GUESS NOW ALL WE CAN DO IS PRAY!! IS IT TOO LATE TO KEEP SENDING EMAILS, I STILL HAVE SOME EMAIL ADDRESSES.

    THANKS,
    LUV & PRAYERS FOR BARBARO, FOGGY, SHELLY AND HR-503,
    CHERYLG

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 8:56 PM

    Hey guys...just spoke with Al Hastings(FL) office...he is on the Rules Committee...I was able to speak to the person on the phone...she said Rep HASTINGS is co-sponsoring the legislation and HE IS AWARE THAT PEOPLE ARE TACKING ON AMENDMENTS....HE WILL FIGHT FOR THE INTEGRITY OF THE BILL....

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 8:57 PM

    Hello Barbaro family,
    I wish I had time to go back and read the posts, but unfortunately, we're going to be leaving to go to church, so I won't have time. I'll be in a good place for the vigil tonight.
    Just wanted to let everyone know that I called both of Dave Weldon's (Florida rep - not listed as a supporter) offices as well as faxed the report posted this morning by Chris Beyers about the horrific plight of our equine friends destined for these slaughterhouses. Then I asked all of my co-workers to call (which they did) and called some friends who agreed to call too. One even got her husband (who works in a large company) to call and make others in his compnay aware. I can only pray now that Weldon will listen to all these constituents who voiced their approval of HR 503.

    I'm so worried about this I doubt I'll be able to sleep tonight. I don't know how I've going to work tomorrow.

    Who came up with this?
    Horse Hands Across America

    I love it.

    Shelley - God Bless You - You have found your calling.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 6, 2006 8:57 PM

    I just hung up from Sessions office also. I asked if the committee meeting would be on web cam and she checked and said she didn't think so.
    I asked how we could find out the outcome and she said we'll hear about it tomorrow morning.

    But if it's on Nightline tonight, they will have the current information of what will be introduced in the morning.

    I have a question, I'm not that politically savvy. When they have the debate in the morning before the vote, can they choose to vote without the amendments. Or if the amendments are added tonight, will that be the only bill they can consider? Does anyone know??

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 8:57 PM

    #####
    Coloradans....

    Mr. Beauprez,

    I am a registered republican, as are most of my family here in Colorado. I am asking you to please consider the HR 503 legislation and vote in favor of saving horses from slaughter. Here in Colorado, where many horses and horse-people live, I imagine that this is an important issue for you to consider. I would hate to think that in one of the most overwhelmingly perceived horse, cowboy and western states, we have a representative that does not realize the importance of saving our horses, our heritage and our reputation.

    Please consider your vote carefully.

    Thank you

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 8:59 PM

    I did talk to a wonderful person - believe it or not - in Goodlatte's office. One of the four local offices. She owns horses herself, and we got to talking about ranch horses, etc. I said, I hope he will reconsider and remove those amendments, let the bill stand or fall on its own. We talked about pets, and how if horses had to be euthanized, that was one thing. She was really interested in the wild horses we have here in Arizona. We talked about fair play, and doing the right thing. I think we talked for about twenty minutes.

    Hopefully, she will be a help in some way.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 8:59 PM

    Lynn came up with it one day out of no where and it just sounded great.
    Horse Hands Across America

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 8:59 PM

    CHRIS!!!

    Those amendments will kill this bill. They are stupid and designed purely to do just that.

    Boy, am I getting an education about how our government works. It makes me sick.

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 6, 2006 9:00 PM

    ####
    Shelley A...I think it was Lyn that might have come up with Horse Hands Across America. I unfortunately did not..but I will take credit for it!
    I love it!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 9:02 PM

    I just called them all (the 4 first), then some again - found out that Doris Matsui and Alcee Hastings are co-sponsors of the bill and they will be asking/arguing for no amendments to the bill!

    I know that's just 2 of 13 (that I was told were sponsoring it) but the other aides weren't as informative as those two aides were, but all were polite on the phone.

    Now it's up to God to work in the hearts of the others.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 9:02 PM

    U.S. Representative, Scott Garrett.
    I just called and talked a guy, and now I going to Fax his.

    His fax number is 202-225-9048

    So get to faxing everyone

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 6, 2006 9:02 PM

    ####
    Shelley A...I think it was Lyn that might have come up with Horse Hands Across America. I unfortunately did not..but I will take credit for it!
    I love it!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 9:02 PM

    Pat, Lynn,
    I got basically the same results when I called Pete Sessions office. The girl was friendly, but didn't divulge anything other than the fact that they've rec'd numerous calls.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 9:03 PM

    Barbaro,

    I have to apologize to you for not giving you much attention today. But I think you would want us to be doing this. It's because of you that we
    were all able to come together and become one strong voice.

    We love you, baby boy. You are always in our thoughts and prayers but today we have to spend our energy trying to get this done.
    We all know you understand and would be proud of us!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:04 PM

    Coloradans:

    I got a "i dunno" type response from Mark Udall. Got the usual crap from Allard. Nothing at all from Beauprez and Salazar - keep in mind brother John is on the committee - check out his ammendment to the bill - making the "Secretary" financially responsible for the horses that are saved.
    The only positive response I got was from Diana DeGette who is a co-sponsor of the bill.

    Yes, I am embarrassed to live here - the "wild west" where animal life means coming home with a dead animal in the back of your pickup (or tied to the front bumper - sheesh)

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 6, 2006 9:04 PM

    FOR TERRY L ...
    ################

    You posted last night:
    Linnie, Linda H - glad your using fish, and not the equine response like "The Godfather" :).

    Posted by: TerryL at September 6, 2006 03:41 AM

    You know, Terry, I had completely forgotten about 'that' until later on in the evening after I posted ... all of a sudden 'that' horrible scene from the movie flashed in front of my eyes. Thank goodness I didn't make reference to 'that' which I never would anyway.

    In Italy, when they want to 'send a strong message', they would wrap 'dead fish' in newspaper and have it delivered ... sending a message that the recipient would 'also' be swimming with the fishes ... meaning 'soon to be dead'. Separate and apart from that equine scene which, I understand was taken from something that really happened, as horrific as that sounds, "The Godfather" will always remain at the very top of my all-time favorite movies ... great story, great acting, memorable, unforgettable movie for the ages.

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 9:05 PM

    Shelley, I think Barbaro would be very pleased with our pulled together efforts.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 9:05 PM

    Thanks Alex and everyone for the updates. Do you think it would be possible to find out if Dr. Richardson could put a value or how much of Barbaro's hoof has actually grown down from the coronet band? That would be interesting for me to know. In any event, we continue to pray for and have best wishes for Barbaro and his connections here at the Gates of Eden Farm.

    Posted by: David at September 6, 2006 9:06 PM

    ###
    TLC (Laura)
    I loved what you wrote to your Congressman. It is befitting of Texas too. May I use it to send to our goofballs here in Texas that are against anti-slaughter. Lil email blast tonite..not sure if it will do any good.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 9:06 PM

    Shelley...they can move to vote on the bill as amended or move to strike the amendments and request debates for either motion...It is all choreographed before hand...all of them know who is doing what...in fact, some could probably tell you whether it will pass or not barring last minute bribes (only halfway kidding).

    Also...when you see the vote tomorrow...you have to hang in until the time allocated elapses... the tally will change after the vote is closed because not all reps make it to the floor for the actual vote...! So don't forget to wait...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:07 PM

    I called my rep. John Shadegg (AZ) who is against this bill. His assistant was rather snippy and sounded like she couldn't get me off the phone fast enough. I was very polite and simply stated that he was my rep. and I wanted to urge him to vote for HR503. I could feel the ice in her voice over the phone, and a dismissive tone in her voice. Yikes! Talk about feel intimidated. But I also emailed him, and my Senators, and noted that I called on the HSUS website. They were up to 12,000 something as of my call.

    Posted by: Rosemary in Phoenix at September 6, 2006 9:09 PM

    #####
    May I ask what we think is the matter with these non-committal people out there representing our government??

    I am so sick of the "I don't know" response!!! Pardon my hostility here, but my advice to ALL of them is "reach down and grab a pair and do something right for a change!!!!!!".

    To my fellow Coloradans,
    I certainly will be watching these people from now on much closer than in the past. They are an embarassment to our state and should be ashamed to either vote this down or supply an ammendment that does not allow the bill to stand on it's own merit.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 9:09 PM

    I had a nice conversation yesterday with Lost in the Fog's owner, Harry Aleo. Mr. Aleo is a very sweet man who took time -- at a time when things are obviously quite hectic -- to talk about the Fog and what a fighter is! Mr. Aleo was gracious and touched by the interest of others in LITF. Great guy, great horse. Best wishes to both of them!

    Posted by: Martine at September 6, 2006 9:10 PM

    Lynn in Austin,
    ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!

    I am doing the same thing and hoping and praying that it WILL make a difference.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 9:11 PM

    Honestly TLC? They are waiting to see what they can get for their vote...be it golf vacations from lobbyists or swapping votes with a fellow congressman over another unrelated issue...

    I stinks...don't it!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:11 PM

    How long do we have to wait!!! You mean if it passes, we have to wait and then it might not??

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:11 PM

    If anyone else would like to use this verbage, feel free.

    Mr. xxxxxxxxx,

    I am a registered republican, as are most of my family here in Colorado. I am asking you to please consider the HR 503 legislation and vote in favor of saving horses from slaughter. Here in Colorado, where many horses and horse-people live, I imagine that this is an important issue for you to consider. I would hate to think that in one of the most overwhelmingly perceived horse, cowboy and western states, we have a representative that does not realize the importance of saving our horses, our heritage and our reputation.

    Please consider your vote carefully.

    Thank you

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 9:13 PM

    Shelley, (and everyone)

    From what I understand from taking US Government & Politics in high school (I'm now a college grad but I do remember it). The bill gets introduced at the general assembly by the "sponsors" of the bill, - (and, not sure if you know but we, as citizens, can propose bills to our congressmen/women and they, if they feel that it is something worthwhile to present, can present it for us at the general assembly).

    If it is decided that it is worth investigating/voting upon, then it goes to "committee" (that's where the lobbyists come in) so in our case, thats the Ag Committee, then it goes to the Rules Committee who decides on the "final copy" that will be presented to the legislature for voting. Now I had it a while ago but from what I remember (and I did pay attention in that class ;) ) that is how it works.

    I think, and I'm not 100% on this - the Rules Committee could send it back to Ag to change it again - but again, I'm not sure about that. I'm more sure of what I said before.

    I'll see if I can confirm all of this, but I'm about 100% on the first part.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 9:13 PM

    ###

    I want to thank every single one of YOU. I have been on the edge of insanity all day, knowing things I don't want to know, and about some people I wish didn't exist, but then I realize what a very good place this is to be. You are all digging your heels in, with tons of strength and determination. I have never seen a better group of people in action. It has been so intense here.

    Barbaro, if it wasn't for you, you magnificent horse...who knows..?

    Posted by: Christine at September 6, 2006 9:14 PM

    TLC
    It's my experience that when people are no committal it's because they are not doing what you want.
    If they were voting the way you wanted, they'd be shouting it from the hilltops.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:14 PM

    ################
    FOR FRIAR TUCK:

    You posted:
    ###

    Linnie:
    Gang Green, eh? Fans of all affiliations are welcome in Sherwood Forest [check out the latest addition to our banner] although this scorpion bleeds Giant Blue hisself.

    Barbaro and Special, you'd best be sleeping.
    Fog, finish up those apples and hit the hay.

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at September 6, 2006 04:24 AM

    OK ... I just checked out your banner ... the background is Sherwood Forest GREEN and there is animation there with all the inhabitants of this forest ... and your logo is new ... am I missing anything else?

    So you're also a Scorpio with Giants ascending, huh? OK, I'm Scorpio with Jets ascending, but I have a "Bad Moon Rising" ...

    I'm just glad that the J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS. ARE IN A DIFFERENT CONFERENCE THAN THE "GINTS" as I call them! Well, at least we can share a similar Head Coach in "Charlie Tuna", and I'm not talking "Starkist" as I'm sure you're aware.

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 9:14 PM

    Coloradans:

    Just called John Salazar's office - they are getting a ton of calls. KEEP THEM COMING! The lady who answered the phone sounded a little frazzled.

    I also mentioned having voted for the boys (maybe not John because I am not in his district) but am now questioning my decision.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 6, 2006 9:14 PM

    Toby,
    you were right, Diaz-FL on our side. FL peeps keep calling Mack

    GA maniacs, call Gingrey i can feel them getting sweaty

    Posted by: Marky at September 6, 2006 9:15 PM

    Barbaro you have ACN and I will check on you in the morning. Have sweet dreams of carrots and peppermints and of course being outside. Big hugs and kisses to you sweet one. LOVE YOU BUNCHES!!!

    BLB!!

    Karen - TN

    Posted by: Karen at September 6, 2006 9:16 PM

    #########

    I just tried to scan over a few of the messages before it's time for me to leave and I have to say it has me in tears. I am so darned proud of everyone associated with Barbaro and this site. I'm equally proud to think I'm part of it, however small. Whether Alex likes it or not, this site has developed a life of its own and I believe we are just in the beginning stages of something great.

    I hope this doesn't offend - I don't mean it to - God Bless each and every one of you wonderful people.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 6, 2006 9:16 PM

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    Pam,
    Yes, it does suck. How can they put such a low value on the lives of these beautiful creatures?? Golf vacations??? Trading votes???


    Makes me sick that these are the types of people that are in decision making roles in our country :(


    ShelleyA,
    I know what you are saying - maddening.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 9:16 PM

    Ryan

    Guess what I'm wondering is if the rules committee adds amendments tonight, can they still vote on the original bill without the amendments tomorrow or can they only consider the one with the amendments

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:16 PM

    Lynn in Austin...do it anyway..I've emailed them, written to them and called my rep today.
    Never saw people so willfully blinkered!

    Remember, people, the ones who will be up for re election and did not support this bill! Work to defeat them. This is the only message that they will understand. No matter which party you belong to, this goes across party lines. If they can be so cruel as to defeat this bill, they don't deserve to be in office!

    Posted by: Toby at September 6, 2006 9:16 PM

    #####

    JUST READING BACK THROUGH MY LAST COUPLE POSTS, PRETTY OBVIOUS IT WAS MAJOR CRUNCH TIME-- PER MY SPELLING!!!- LOL!!!

    ANYWAY, I'LL KEEP DOING WHAT I CAN - FAXING, EMAILS ETC.... I CALLED IN AS MY MOM TOO-OHIO. MY MOM SAID SHE GOT AN "ODD" CALL TODAY WHEN SHE WAS NAPPING. THEY WOULDN'T SAY WHO THEY WERE THOUGH?? OH WELL!!???

    LOVE & PRAYERS FOR EVERYONE,
    CHERYL G
    :>)


    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 9:17 PM

    There are only 2 kinds of people in the world.
    Barbaromaniacs, and those who wish they were Barbaromaniacs. You folks are the best and I'm proud to be here with such great souls.

    Posted by: Jo-Ann at September 6, 2006 9:18 PM

    ###

    Who ever said it was TOO LATE to email.. WRONG. Some of these officials get to their office early in the morning to look over the agenda for the day, check their emails, etc.

    so never is it too late to send a email to your rep in washington. I do not plan to stop until they get together to vote tomorrow


    DON"T forget about the vigil for the slaughter bill tonight. We need all the prayers and thoughts we can get. See what it has done for Barbaro, and the Fog.


    Barbaro. Sorry I have neglected you but I know you understand and would be proud of what your Human Friends, the BarbaroManiacs, are doing for your horse friends out there. We are your voice, and the voices of your horse friends out there!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 6, 2006 9:19 PM

    Martine - how wonderful you got to talk to Harry. God bless him! He's so proud of that horse. If he and Greg can keep him alive and happy, they will move Heaven and earth to do it!

    I'll call Mark Udall - I'm an Arizonan, so I have a proprietary right to him. I'm sure he'll vote the right way. His uncle wrote a book about conservation.

    Rosemary, my deepest condolences that you have Shaddegg for your rep. Election coming up in two months!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 9:19 PM

    Coloradans:

    You know, after looking at the list and hearing back from reps, I realize it doesn't really matter what party they are - neither of them care. I just called Beauprez office and the guy who answered the phone acted like I was bothering him.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 6, 2006 9:19 PM

    Coloradans:

    Makes you want to pack up and move closer to Fair Hill, yes?? :) :) :)

    At the very least, more people need to consider RUNNING for office.

    Posted by: Deborah A./ Colorado at September 6, 2006 9:19 PM

    Pat G

    I sent a FAX to Honda with Horse Slaughter link.

    Email Cardoza, he's the one I'm after. How dare he vote No. I helped organize a fund raiser for him in Rancho Santa Fe of horse racing peeps.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 9:20 PM

    Sorry SHELLEY A...so many posts...

    You only have to wait for several minutes...usually...

    There were incidents in the past in which the House Leadership kept the vote open passed the allotted time...The most notorious involved a 5+hr delay by the infamous TOM DELAY during which the President was able to arm-twist and "offer incentives" to those whose votes were needed in order to pass the legislation...

    THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN TOMORROW...

    Just a short, few minute delay is ALWAYS allotted to insure the politicians who are tied up in meetings can get their vote recorded...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:20 PM

    Shelly A....

    Keep cool and positive. Have a Barbabrew or two.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 9:21 PM

    "Remember, people, the ones who will be up for re election and did not support this bill! Work to defeat them. This is the only message that they will understand. No matter which party you belong to, this goes across party lines. If they can be so cruel as to defeat this bill, they don't deserve to be in office!"

    Posted by: Toby at September 6, 2006 09:16 PM
    ====================================
    Coloradans:

    Beauprez running for GOVERNOR - how about a real message for him??????????

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 6, 2006 9:21 PM

    Barbaro,
    Sooooooooo glad to hear that you continue to so well. I'm sure that you loved getting out today and grazing. Keep up the good work, enjoy your snacks, keep that handsome chin up and keep smiling :)

    I wish there was some way for you to know how much you have inspired so many to fight for all horses. You have brought a great part of a nation together in a unifed effort to defeat a horror that you will never know. Thank you.

    Maybe if this bill passes it should be called the Barbaro Bill - (inspired by the great Kentucky Derby winner resposible for bringing so many together to fight.)

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 9:22 PM

    On the phone when I made my flurry of "calls before the meeting" I just asked politely if they could relay the message to the congressman/woman that I would like him or her to pass HR 503 without the amendments because the amendments undermine the entire purpose of the bill itself.

    I know I could have went further but I wanted my message to get there before the meeting started :)

    Short, sweet, to the point, just cause I had many other calls to make ;)

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 9:22 PM

    SHELLEY wrote:

    >>Barbaro,

    I have to apologize to you for not giving you much attention today. But I think you would want us to be doing this. It's because of you that we
    were all able to come together and become one strong voice.

    We love you, baby boy.....>

    It's so obvious how much you love Barbaro. You've gone into action like a lioness protecting her cubs...

    THANK YOU SHELLEY and GOD BLESS YOU.

    THANK YOU ALL, GOD BLESS YOU.

    Posted by: Christine at September 6, 2006 9:23 PM

    Sweet Barbaro,
    Time for me to go home. Thank you for your inspiration to fight to save the lives of innocent horses such as your self.

    I'm sure you had a nice time with Peter today. Bet you were thrilled.

    Enjoy your evening, flirt with some mares, nicker with the guys, have some good treats. I hope you have another good nights sleep.

    May the angles hold you tight, keep you safe and warm and heal you. Heal Hoof, Heal leg, Grow Hoof

    I love you so much dear one.
    Renee

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 6, 2006 9:23 PM

    It is crunch time!

    Please people we got tonight and tomorrow morning to make a difference. Make your call count and let them know how you want the vote to go!

    Even if you leave a message with whoever answers the phone, your message will be passed along.

    Imagine these people coming back from the meeting going on rignt now with a heap of " While you were out" all saying a unanimous NO on horse slaughter.

    Send them emails with the links Shelley has listed, they will get them tonight or in the morning, those images will be imprinted in their heads as they head to vote. We can make a difference.

    xoxoxoxo

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 6, 2006 9:23 PM

    Anyone who wants a script for FAXing or emailing.


    Re: HR 503 Horse Slaughter Prevention Act


    Congressman ,

    I am not a constituent but am a Californian. I am writing to express concern regarding your vote on HR 503 the Horse Slaughter Prevention Act. Please reconsider your vote. This is a cruel and inhumane act on animals that are not bred for human consumption. The slaughter serves no purpose to Americans. The meat goes to foreign countries and served as a delicacy. It is not solving world hunger and it does not serve America. In fact polls indicate that Americans are overwhelmingly opposed to horse slaughter.
    Have you ever watched a horse slaughter video? It would sicken you and you would never forget the images. In case you wish to view the reality of this here is a link. http://www.justsaywhoa.org/abuse.asp

    There are other solutions to the horse population, responsible breeding and ownership. Please join ober 200 Congressional Representatives and Please, please vote for the Horse Slaughter Prevention Act with NO amendments.

    Let's not let what happened to Ferdinand, Excellor and thousands more continue.

    Thank you,

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 9:24 PM

    Martine - did Mr. Aleo mention The Fog's chemo? Anything you can share?

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 9:26 PM

    Shelley A...technically, you are right...In a ROLL CALL VOTE, after the names are called,the vote CLOSES...then the members have a designated amount of time (usually 15 min, I think) to get their votes in...IF THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT WHEN THEIR NAME WAS CALLED.

    You may notice that some names are called and no answer is given...these people may be in meetings
    or some such...that is why they are given extra time...

    Also...This calling of names is done when it is REQUESTED through a MOTION...I think, since, it is an election year, that there will be a ROLLCALL
    vote on the issue in order to get people on the record by the party sponsoring the bill...(otherwise, they just aye or nay)

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:27 PM

    ShelleyA-

    It's my understanding that the rules committee
    decides on the final format of the bill that will be voted on... considering previous versions with amendments and whichever new versions with amendments were able to make it by the deadline today...

    *From www.rules.house.gov*
    Any Member wishing to offer an amendment should submit 55 copies of the amendment and one copy of a brief explanation of the amendment to the Rules Committee in room H-312 of the Capitol by 11:00 a.m. on Wednesday, September 6, 2006. The form used to submit amendments to the Rules Committee is at the top of this page. Members should draft their amendments to the bill as introduced on February 1, 2005.

    As to the politics of this decision, that's anyones guess...nervewracking...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 9:28 PM

    Called my reps on the phone and emailed...now I will be praying.

    Barbaro, look what you have done! and for so many of us! I never would have known all this if not for you.

    Prayers ongoing.....

    Nancy in Va Beach

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at September 6, 2006 9:29 PM

    Shelley,

    From what I understand, what they decide upon tonight will go to the floor. That's why it was important we got to the Rules Committee today. Hoping and praying we get what we want.

    It can only help though that we have some co-sponsors of the bill on that committee. I would love for them to strike the amendments and let the bill stand on its own.

    Really would make all the Ag Committee have wasted their time in creating all those terrible amendments ;).

    Let us all remember, Barbaro is showing us miracles can happen. Let us stay postitive and continue to do what we need to do. Let's not get discouraged by some of the calls/conversations we had today - because no matter what, if we had them on the phone, the opposition got a busy signal.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 6, 2006 9:30 PM

    ####
    Janice in FL. I feel the same way you do. I've never seen a group of people come together so tightly for a cause. And to think...if Barbaro hadn't broken down, none of this would be happening. Not that I would have wished that on any horse ever...but to see his tragedy be used to do so much good for so many of these beautiful, loving creatures...it's absolutely amazing.

    I, like you, am so happy to be a very small part of all of it.

    Alex thank you for bringing all of these great people together.

    Barbaro you inspire like no other, and I thank God for you everyday. You have brought out the very best in so many of us.

    Have another good night sweet boy. Best wishes to all of Barbaro Nation.

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 6, 2006 9:30 PM

    #####
    Coloradans,
    I will be sending him my message loud and clear via the vote I cast in the gubernatorial election. In fact, I may change my party affiliation. I know that niether side appears to care right now but perhaps I need to be registered as an independent. Hmmmmmmm

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 9:30 PM

    Oh, they just announced on my local news, "more encouraging news about the recovery of Barbaro" coming up in the next half hour!!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:31 PM

    Shelley A...

    Christian is right...then it goes to the floor for a vote...then they decide to vote on it "As amended" or not...that shouldn't take long....

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:32 PM

    ######


    SHELLEY...LET US KNOW WHAT IT IS...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:33 PM

    "Boy, am I getting an education about how our government works. It makes me sick.

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 6, 2006 09:00 PM"

    Yes Jane, the old saying is that making legislation is like making sausage--you don't want to watch either process and don't want to know how it's done.

    Particularly apropo for this issue, yes?

    Come November, we can try our darndest to throw some of the bums out if they deserve it.

    CNN polls yesterday showed a goodly majority of Americans are eyeballing incumbents with distaste on tons of other issues....

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 9:33 PM

    Good late afternoon to Barbaro, horse of forever
    -- look at how many people you've mobilized!!
    Good early afternoon to Fog, feisty, fighting horse -- keep surprising people...!

    ###
    Linnie:
    Go back to Sherwood Forest. Watch the animals. Watch the ______? Watch the moose.

    ###
    Martine:
    Thanks for the Aleo/Fog info. That's very cool to hear.

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at September 6, 2006 9:37 PM

    shelly what channel nbc, abc, cbs, fox

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 9:37 PM

    Susan E-

    Great quote!

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 9:37 PM

    I think there will be some debate tomorrow. With over 200 co-sponsors and some opponents doing sneaky amendments, I doubt they'll vote right away.

    At least, I hope for a debate because ALL of the amendments, especially the ones being added NOW, need to see the light of day before a vote.

    Ya know,we really haven't had any mad cows around here. If Europe would lift its ban on US beef imports, the cattle industry would be less invested in defeating this legislation. Japan lifted its ban in June.

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 9:37 PM

    Susan E....do you think I should tell them that (AND THIS WON'T HAPPEN TOMORROW)...on a bill where they don't want to vote ...such as campaign finance or lobbyist reform...they can debate the issue, then vote to send the bill BACK to committee in order to hammer out a new version!!!!
    (Where it can die a slow death)

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:37 PM

    Christian,

    Thanks, boss!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 9:38 PM

    #######
    Cheryl in PA:
    Just saw your earlier post today with the additional quotes and thoughts in support of HR503! Wow and Thank You!! You really did your "homework" (smile)! Many I had not seen before. Loved them all! All for the love of Bobby, LITF, and all our other loving equine friends!
    Thanks for taking the time to submit those!
    Very much appreciated!
    ###############

    I'm with you all for the vigil tonight (HR503)!
    Lets hope everyone's hard work, devotion, and prayers wakes up and moves those who can make a difference for our equine friends!

    Barbaro, you got to venture out with your friend, Peter, YEAH!! Also, heard you had a delivery of pears - yummy! Enjoy your treats, all the love, and sweet dreams Bobby! Positive healing thoughts!!! Ears perked up for Michael, too!
    Love you, Barbaro, and a kiss on your nose!
    Lou Ann, Pennsylvania

    Dear Fog, praying you are comfortable and resting well tonight. Send lots of positive healing thoughts to those old cancer cells - give them a good nip Fog!! God Bless your friends Mr. Aleo and Mr. Gilchrist who love you so! I love your name and love you so very much!
    Lou Ann, Pennsylvania

    Posted by: Lou Ann, Pennsylvania at September 6, 2006 9:38 PM

    PAMMIE

    Tell what to whom?

    And great work with Rep. Hastings!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 9:39 PM

    Ro and Brady - it must have been US!!!! We did it! (Or the thousands of others who called.)

    What a turnaround!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 6, 2006 04:09 PM

    JUST AN OBSERVATION OF MINE ...

    I'm thinking that some congressmen/women intentionally say 'uncommitted' because they don't want to 'advertise' how they are going to vote in advance of the role call.

    Why?

    Well consider this possibility ... each time a Congressman/woman announces how he/she will vote, it tips off the 'other side' and they may, in turn, try to gather even more votes for their position. By stating 'uncommitted' or non-commital', it leaves open the 'element of surprise' when the actual vote takes place and, therefore, doesn't give the other side an unfair advantage to try to 'beat' their competition.

    Actually, this makes a lot of sense to me, when you think about it. I'm not saying this is factual, only that it does bear consideration as a possible reason for many who are remaining uncommitted. Of course, it just could be US!!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 9:40 PM

    ####

    Susan E-

    Are you Edie's and my Susan E?
    If you are, sorry so slow on the uptake...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 9:41 PM

    I just saw my congressman on TV and he was not in Washington, he was doing something local. So I called his office (they are still there!)and asked if he'd be in DC to vote on HR503 tomorrow. I know he is a co-sponsor but what good is that if he's not there to vote!!
    A very nice aid told he yes, he was on his way to Union Station as we speak!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:41 PM

    Christian, YES I AM

    Also SusanE830 on the other site.

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 9:42 PM

    #####################################

    MY BAD! I've been forgetting to do that all day. Mea culpa, Alex!!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 9:43 PM

    Sally

    ABC but it's my local news. Hasn't come on yet.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:45 PM

    My cowgirl hat is off to you all:

    Ryan - for your wisdom and different point of view - humor and calm demeanor !

    Shelley - for your tireless devotion on this big issue we all have come together on .... heck - I live in Arizona - and sent faxes to Alabama !

    To all of you passionate Barbaromaniacs !!!
    Miracles DO happen ...... continuously.

    And, of course ...... to our "center" .... my "horse of forever" ......... Barbaro ....

    do so wish I could give you a for real horse hug !!

    Sherry - Arizona

    Posted by: Sherry at September 6, 2006 9:45 PM

    #####

    Susan E

    I was being facicious(sp)...I didn't want the carrots to pop their tops when they read how politicians can manipulate legislation when they want to...

    Why...did you think I was talking to those space aliens again?

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:46 PM

    Well this carrot was on the phone calling everyone I could in Florida!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 9:47 PM

    It was just on....nothing we didn't already know. Showed him grazing with Dr R (old video)and talked about how his leg was healing and that the foot with lamintis was improving. Mentioned his healthy appetite. ALWAYS menton his appetite....bet that boy can eat!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:47 PM

    WATCH THE VOTE- NOT SURE IF THIS IS UP TO DATE OR NOT--
    Watch the vote on C-SPAN.ORG. As of this writing, there is nothing on the agenda that day, so it is highly likely that the vote will be early.
    Thank you one and all.

    ######

    MY GOOD FRIEND PAMMIE, I DIDN'T REALIZE MY FUNNY FRIEND WAS SO SMART. I WAS A POLITICAL SCIENCE MINOR IN COLLEGE AND I CAN'T REMEMBER A LOT OF THIS STUFF ABOUT THE HOUSE VOTE, CONGRESS ETC.. IN THIS CASE THOUGH, I DON'T THINK IT WILL GET AS HIGH AS THE PRESIDENT, I GUESS YA NEVER KNOW THOUGH??

    LUV YA,
    CHERYL G
    :>)

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 9:48 PM

    #########

    I'm on my way out the door but just wanted to request that those of you who keep posting try to keep updating for the rest of us who will try to get back on later. Sorry I can't be here but will be with everyone (in spirit) for the vigil.

    Last I checked there were 549 postings so far today and it's early. I bet we break a record today.

    Great job - team Barbaro

    Horse Hands Across America

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 6, 2006 9:49 PM

    Cheryl my thought is that since alot of people in this country are not aware of horse slaughter - me for one until I came to TWR - I wouldn't think that the vote would go to the president. But you never know - maybe because of the Barbaromanics more people are aware and have made phone calls, etc.

    Someone mentioned the vote would be early - any idea what time is early? Should I stay home from work to watch???

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 9:51 PM

    I've been campaigning today also....made all the class for H.R. 503. Keep our fingers crossed! Love to all.

    Posted by: Barb AZ at September 6, 2006 9:51 PM

    SHELLY A- SO GLAD TO HEAR BOBBY IS STILL EATING, HE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO FATTEN UP, ALONG WITH DR DEAN WHO ALSO LOOKED THINNER GOING THROUGH ALL THE STRESS WITH OUR BOBBY.

    LOVE AND PRAYERS FOR BOBBY & EVERYONE,
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 9:51 PM

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    Janice...all that posting and I only took one XanaX break!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:52 PM

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    Cheryl - Dr Dreamy always looks good - a few pounds on a few pounds off - he is a hotty. I understand in person he is a BUFF TIGER!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 9:53 PM

    With all these ridiculous amendments being thrown in - how flipping typical - I guess I'll be making a few more calls early tomorrow morning.

    I know the sponsors & co-sponsors have been through this before and know the drill with last minute fiddling, but it still makes me very uneasy. I don't want a diluted law passed like last time, where nothing will change.

    Thanks to all of you for fighting! You all really do give me hope that there is still good in the world! :o)

    Julie Z.

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 6, 2006 9:53 PM

    Sally

    The debate on the issue starts on C-Span at 10AM and the vote will follow. Don't know how long the debate will be

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:54 PM

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    Barbaro definately could put on a few pounds since he has lost so much. He still looks good - but I don't want him to get FAT!! I don't think I have ever seen a FAT horse. The pictures of him at the Derby he looks so big - so muscular - he is just a horse with an awesome body on him. Would like to see that again - don't want any love handles or carrot belly.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 9:55 PM

    ######

    Sally...the website says the HOUSE meets at
    10:00AM...that is it...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:55 PM

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    Sally...all I can say is ME-OW!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 9:56 PM

    TLC (Laura):

    Independent is the only way to go. Altho I lean Dem, I have actually voted Repub a few times.

    What we need is to tell each one of them, when they come up for re-election (or in Beauprez case, a new election) why we are NOT voting for them. We need to write letters to the newspapers voicing our votes so politicians in the future will know that we demand they vote according to OUR wants/needs and not their pocketbooks.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 6, 2006 9:57 PM

    I saw it on C-SPAN earlier. They announced that the horse slaughter debate will start at 10AM.
    Had it on today just in case something was on.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 9:58 PM

    SALLY, I FOUND A SITE AND IT SAID THE VOTE WOULD BE "EARLY" - I AGREE, WHAT IS EARLY- 8AM I WOULD ASSUME???

    I REALLY DO HOPE US BARBARO MANIACS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I KNOW I SENT EMAILS TO A LOT OF MY FRIENDS WHO PARTY AT THE KENTUCKY DERBY (INFIELD) AND KNOW OF BARBARO (IF THEY WERE SOBER ENOUGH-LOL) BUT THEY AREN'T HARD CORE RACE FANS, MAINLY DERBY FANS.

    LOVE & PRAYERS FOR BARBARO, FOGGY & HR503
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 9:58 PM

    Hey Barbaro...sweet boy. I'm thinking that destiny has put you right where you are today so that you could bring to light the atrocities against your kind. You are serving a higher more important purpose right now. I think you really do have wings. Albeit this was a pretty rough road to that destiny. But you are changing this bitter world back into people who give a damn and saying they aren't taking it anymore. I think you have a halo too. :) Throw some of your golden light Fogs way so he has a lot of pain free days.

    Have a good night big boy and Fog too.

    Posted by: Stacey Streeter at September 6, 2006 9:59 PM

    Question to everyone - once the vote is done - is there a way we can find out how our reps voted???

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 10:00 PM

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    Cheryl...they open the Session at 10:00 AM

    There is no way they would schedule anything that early! HeHeHe They are tired from all of that vacation!!!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 10:01 PM

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    Sally...if you have CSpan, the vote will show a tally as the Roll is Called...If not...just watch here...

    (you tigress you)

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 10:03 PM

    They say things happen for a reason - Barbaro being hurt - I'm sure non of us thought that this would happen. Barbaro brought us all together for a reason - the anti slaughter bill and the polytrack and all issue of animals. I hate that this happened to him but look at the good that has come out of it. I could go on and on but I think you get my drift!


    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 10:03 PM

    STACEY STREETER,

    Right on!

    PAMMIE,

    Oh, I think the Posse has already done that and turned it back around. Now we're turning into a PAC.

    Beware, horse slaughter advocates. We are nationwide, we're dedicated, we're smart, we do our homework, and we all have internet! What's the internet got to do with it, you ask? Remember 5 little words:

    Joe Lieberman, 2006 Senate Primary

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 10:03 PM

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    Sally, I can usually go to my Rep. or Senator's website for those voting results. But, I know that there is a group list of how everyone voted, I'll try to find that for you.

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 6, 2006 10:04 PM

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    GRRRRRRRR

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 10:04 PM

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    Sorry Sally...I reread...For individual votes...they should be posted on the USHouse.gov website....I think

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 10:04 PM

    Sally in Key West-

    There is a public record of how each one voted.

    -Go to www.house.gov.
    -Go to the right side and click on final vote informaton and click on 109th Congress 2nd session 2006.
    -The next screen will have a table of the recent votes taken.
    -Go down the list in the column to find the bill that you are looking for. Then click on the corresponding box in the first column (Roll).

    Hope this helps.

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 10:05 PM

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    SAL, I CAN KIND OF TELL IN SOME PHOTOS, DR. DEAN LOOKED PRETTY MUSCULAR!!! I LIKE THEM LEAN & MEAN LIKE HIM!! :>)

    LUV YA,
    CHERYL G
    :>)

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 10:07 PM

    #####
    In an earlier post which I must be too blind to find right now - someone mentioned that they didn;t want Barbaro to get love handles...

    Well I was thinking that he can't help but with all of the love he gets each day from all of of here not to mention his friends, family and Dr's :)

    Just made me smile to picture all of us hanging on to his sides -- get it, love handles :)

    Sorry, I digress

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 10:07 PM

    ######

    Cheryl...it must be all of that grazing he does with Bobby...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 10:08 PM

    Coloradans Laura, Deborah and Linda and I'm sorry, I forget who else

    what the #@!*^&&#? I think I talked to the same guy. Forgot to mention Diana DeGette earlier She is so proactive on so many really important matters.

    Also forgot to mention when I called some else's office, I said that there were people who have united in this cause who have never been owned by a horse, never ridden a horse, maybe never even seen a horse up close and personal, but for Barbaro. He said "Oh yeah...We've heard from a lot of your people today...."

    MY PEOPLE!!!! YES and MY PEOPLE have SPOKEN. SO get it, you bonehead bureaucrats who don't seem to have "time", "interest","can't decide" or erroneously think that "it just doesn't matter" MY PEOPLE will make you see the error of your ways if you don't get on board with this. There is a general election in November, and a "big one" in November 2008. GET IT????

    I'm done being nice with them. Everyone I know who has a fax is sending faxes to every dang one of them tonight

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 10:09 PM

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    You GO Cheryl!!! I am with you 110%

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 10:11 PM

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    TLC - he is gonna need huge love handles for all of us to hang on!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 10:12 PM

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    Cheryl J...you go girl...that was just about perfect....No...it was perfect...

    TLC...I think we are all in some serious need of digression at this point...I will take the love handle on the left!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 10:12 PM

    Sweet Bobby....ACN for you! You are always in our thoughts and hearts, so don't read the board and think we are ignoring you! You are inspiration.

    Laura (TLC)
    Can I borrow what you wrote (about cowboys and such)? Being from the East Coast, I never thought that angle, I need it for last minute calls and emails to Jerry Moran and Jim Ryun of KS.
    SusanE. and Sheila..
    you are both from Mizzou? Kansas here! (border war, LOL)
    Love to Family and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 6, 2006 10:12 PM

    Geez - I'm at work while this is going on.
    Do you think they will stream the vote?

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 6, 2006 10:14 PM

    part of what's wrong with our government is our own disconnected apathy about it.

    There ARE people who get involved with issues that are important to them, but how many times have we each thought (or said), "hey, that's not right!" and that's as far as we took it?

    We tolerate it, that's what we'll get.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 6, 2006 10:14 PM

    Just emailed the California 14.
    Is anyone else working the Californians?

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 10:15 PM

    SusanW.
    FOR SURE - whatever it takes to get through to these people. Maybe that angle will work on some :)

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 10:16 PM

    I agree. I hate that Barbaro got hurt. But not only did he get hurt, he survived and brought us all together. That has to mean something.

    And Alex. He is the real hero in everything that we've accomplished. Without him,none of this would have been possible. He gave us a voice.

    No matter how it turns out tomorrow, we know we've made a difference. I'm very proud to be a part of this group.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 10:17 PM

    ####

    PAMMIE- I THINK THAT'S IT- THE GRAZING!! REMEMBER 3 MARES WERE GOING TO SHOW UP UNEXPECTEDLY!!! MEMBER SAL??? :>) HE-HE

    CHERYL J-- VERY WELL SAID. WISH MY BROTHER STILL LIVED IN COLORADO, HE COULD HAVE HELPED, HE HAS A VERY LOUD MOUTH!! :>)

    PS- HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THE NEW BUDWEISER COMMERCIAL WITH THE HORSES AND SHEEP--TOO CUTE!! BUD MAKES THE BEST COMMERCIALS!!

    LOVE & PRAYER FOR EVERYONE,
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 10:24 PM

    ##
    Okay, I have some time, I know it's late in the day back east but does anyone have a suggestion of who I could call that is sitting on the fence and who might want to fall to our side?

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 6, 2006 10:24 PM

    ###

    My sentiments exactly. They say things happen for a reason, Barbaro's injury has brought so many together, and now because of that we have come together to help get this Slaughter Bill to the Fore Front and we HOPE passes.


    Thank you Alex for allowing this site to be here, allowing the human voices to speak for the Horses. Without you, we would Not have this venue to gather and plan and go into action. CHEERS to Alex!!!!!!!!!!1

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 6, 2006 10:26 PM

    Alex

    If you're out there I know we all want to express our thanks. We want you to know how much we appreciate you......so do you know???

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 10:26 PM

    Cathy Potter,

    I am in California, everyone in my district supports HR503, but let me know if there's others in So. Cal or elsewhere who need a push.

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 6, 2006 10:26 PM

    It could be a very disappointing outcome tomorrow,
    but at least we tried and if the bill dies, it dies having been supported... at least we spoke up.

    Getting to know our way around the government websites and processes can't hurt either... it's empowering.

    Thanks Barbaro, thanks Alex...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 10:26 PM

    My husband and I emailed our representative, eliot Engel from NY. He is one of the co-sponsers. I followed up with a phone call today. Engel is definately on board and will be there for the vote tomorrow. The aide said they are receiving calls mostly for the bill but there are some against. I asked the aid to have engel contact the rest of the NY delegation especially rangel asking for their support.

    I sent and email to sen. schumer I also called his office. I asked the aide asked his position on s1915. I was told that the senator has not yet made a decision. I gave him the talking points and was advised again that I would be contacted when he reached a decision.

    tomorrow I am calling sen. clinton's office.
    for the sake of all of the horses I hope we win tomorrrow.
    Adriennne, nanuet ny

    Posted by: adrienne at September 6, 2006 10:27 PM

    Cathy
    I am from Orange County, California and have sent letters to all I can. Am also a member of the ASPCA and Humane Society and have worked with them as well on this issue.

    I have business people in town so have not been able to post today but am doing all I can.

    Very, very proud of all of you and your efforts AND ESPECIALLY OUR WONDERFUL BARBARO WHO HAS REALLY MADE ALL THIS POSSIBLE.

    Posted by: Jeri at September 6, 2006 10:27 PM

    Hey guys...here is a response to my email to ANDER CHRENSHAW (FL) please, indulge me, I apologize for its length, but it has some interesting points esp regarding pending legislation regarding wild horses and burros...

    (I took out my name and address...thank you very much)

    Thank you for contacting me to express your concerns about the slaughter of horses. I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts with me on this matter.

    Two bills have been introduced dealing with this issue. Representative Nick Rahall introduced H.R. 297, which would prevent the commercial sale and slaughter of free-roaming horses and burros in the United States . H.R. 297 was referred to the House Committee on Resources. Also, Rep. John Sweeney introduced H.R. 503, which amends the Horse Protection Act to prohibit the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses and other equines to be slaughtered for human consumption. I am a cosponsor of this legislation. H.R. 503 was referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.

    As you are aware, in the wake of increasing fears over mad cow disease in Europe , many people in European countries turned to beef alternatives, including horse meat. In fact, the slaughter of horses for foreign markets occurs in both the United States and Canada . According to recent reports, it is estimated that more than 50,000 horses were slaughtered in the United States to support European and Asian demand for horse meat. As of this time, the United States Department of Agriculture is monitoring this situation.

    Rest assured that I will keep your views and thoughts in mind should either of these pieces of legislation come to the House floor for consideration.

    Again, I want to thank you for taking the time to contact me. Please feel free to contact me if I can be of any further assistance on this matter or if you would like additional information on this topic or other issues facing Congress, please visit my Web site at crenshaw.house.gov.

    Sincerely,

    f

    ANDER CRENSHAW

    Member of Congress

    Posted by: Pamela at September 6, 2006 10:27 PM

    Alex

    If you're out there I know we all want to express our thanks. We want you to know how much we appreciate you......so do you know???

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 10:27 PM

    My husband and I emailed our representative, eliot Engel from NY. He is one of the co-sponsers. I followed up with a phone call today. Engel is definately on board and will be there for the vote tomorrow. The aide said they are receiving calls mostly for the bill but there are some against. I asked the aid to have engel contact the rest of the NY delegation especially rangel asking for their support.

    I sent and email to sen. schumer I also called his office. I asked the aide asked his position on s1915. I was told that the senator has not yet made a decision. I gave him the talking points and was advised again that I would be contacted when he reached a decision.

    tomorrow I am calling sen. clinton's office.
    for the sake of all of the horses I hope we win tomorrrow.
    Adriennne, nanuet ny

    Posted by: adrienne at September 6, 2006 10:30 PM

    I mentioned about a week ago that a horse named Special needed our prayers - well - she passed away yesterday. I don't know what happened and am not sure if I will but I wanted you to know. your prayers are appreciated. Please lite a candle in the angels for her.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 10:31 PM

    Christian....you're scaring me. Do you think we're not going to make it??

    I don't know if I mentioned this before but when I met with Senator Spector's aid on Tuesday, he didn't seem to think we would have the support needed in congress. Senator Spector is a co-sponsor for the senate but they're not to sure it's going to get there.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 10:33 PM

    ####
    It might be time for a Barbarotini after the vigil and we wrap up our emails and calls to the Congressman. Well deserved by all Barbaromaniacs for the tireless and aggressive effort we gave against horse slaughter today!
    Cheers!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 10:36 PM

    Bonnie MacRaith

    These are the 14 that seem to be No's or non-commital in California:
    Calvert 202-225-1986
    Cardoza 202-225-6131
    Costas 202-225-3341
    Doolittle 202-225-2511
    Herger 202-225-3076
    Honda 202-225-2631
    Lewis 202-225-5861
    McKeon 202-225-1956
    Nunes 202-225-2523
    Pombo 202-225-1947
    Radanovich 202-225-4540
    Rohrabacher 202-225-2415
    Royce 202-225-4111
    Thomas 202-225-2915

    I've emailed all and called half. Cardoza is the one that surprises me since we held a fund raiser for him at my ex-employers home in Rancho Santa Fe who breed and race horses. Shame on him.
    Thanks for any help.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 10:37 PM

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    Coloradans,
    What congressional district are each of you in? Maybe we can make a lst minute push in our own districts???

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 10:37 PM

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    Coloradans,
    What congressional district are each of you in? Maybe we can make a last minute push in our own districts???

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 10:38 PM

    ###
    Sally,
    Thank you for letting us know about Special. She is with the horsey angels now. I will say a prayer for her tonite.
    God bless this lil baby.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 6, 2006 10:38 PM

    ###################

    FOR FRIAR TUCK:

    3 points for you!!!

    Who's the kicker? From the silhouette, looks a little like King Kong or a reasonable facsimile thereof!! Couldn't you get Barbaro to kick the winning FG?

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 10:39 PM

    TLC

    Get me the districts and I can give you the names. Have the list right here.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 10:42 PM

    TLC (Laura):

    My rep is Diana DeGette and she is a co-sponsor of HR 503. I emailed and called other reps but as I am not a constituent they just took down the info and said bye

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 6, 2006 10:42 PM

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    I have seen those Clydesdales play football and they can kick!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 10:42 PM

    It's almost vigil time.....15 minutes!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 10:44 PM

    After the vigil how bout those Barbabrews????

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 10:45 PM

    I've got the HR503 link all set up at gratefulness.org for the vigil ...

    direct link:http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/message.cfm?l=eng&cid=1694497

    Also, the candle #s for Bobby and Foggy are way up again .... GOOD! Over 1700 for Bobby and 1500 for Foggy!!!

    I'm all psyched for Nightline tonight and I'll be in front of the TV bright and early tomorrow for CSpan .... Can't wait for this VICTORY!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 10:47 PM

    I am so impressed with the commitment and resourcefulness of this group. You have all been an encouragement to me to keep at it. I have called and emailed the Illinois reps, and also enlisted the help of many friends, relatives, and coworkers. Several friends are from FL, (Mack's district), several from CO, and others in districts outside mine in Illinois. I hope every single voice has counted.

    It is unbelievable how many people did not know this is going on. I wish we could have started even sooner to shed the light on this issue. Time now to get ready to observe the vigil. And praying that the Barbaro effect will triumph.

    Thanks to Christian, Edie, ShelleyA, and all others who have helped us find the info we needed to take action. It has opened my eyes again to how government works, and I know I will pay closer attention from now on.

    Posted by: Gloria at September 6, 2006 10:47 PM

    SALLY, WE WILL LIGHT A CANDLE FOR SPECIAL AND SAY A PRAYER IN MY AOL VIGIL TONIGHT. THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW. :>(

    SHELLY, CHRISTIAN -- I HOPE YOU ARE WRONG CHRISTIAN, ARE YOU MAYBE KEEPING AN OPEN MIND SO OUR HEARTS ALL DON'T BREAK IF IT'S VOTED DOWN.

    I'M SURE BOBBY IS PRAYING RIGHT NOW FOR HIS HORSE BUDDIES. :>)

    LOVE & PRAYERS,
    CHERYL

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 10:48 PM

    Hi to all, been out for over a week now but have kept up on Barbaro and the The Fog

    Started e-mailing all the Texas Reps not on board. And there are a lot from Texas. What has gotten into them. The people in Texas (including me) should be horse wipped, twice!! Our reps. are just not listening to us. And what is new about that????

    Lynn & Jen I can join you because I am in the Dallas area. The names of the places are so deceiving that I did not even know that is what they are.

    Never ending love and prayers to Barbaro and the Fog. What a miracle they continue to be.

    Karen M. - Texas

    Posted by: Karen M. at September 6, 2006 10:49 PM

    After the vigil how bout those Barbabrews????

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 10:45 PM

    LOVE IT, CATHY! ACTUALLY, RIGHT NOW I'M HAVING A GLASS OF BARBALOT .. a very special Merlot blend!!! LOL

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 10:49 PM

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    I have seen those Clydesdales play football and they can kick!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 10:42 PM

    YOU ARE SO RIGHT, SALLY ... I HAVE SEEN THEM IN A SNOWFIGHT AND THEY ARE FIERCE! I LOVE THE CLYDESDALES ... I WANT ONE!! ACTUALLY, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I FOUND A LARGE STUFFED ANIMAL REPLICA OF A CLYDESDALE AT XMASTIME IN "WALLY WORLD" ... NEEDLESS TO SAY, I BOUGHT HIM IMMEDIATELY.

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 10:52 PM

    I just went to light my candle (only 56) for HR503
    and sat in front of my screen wondering......how could something that seems like it should be so easy, be so hard. This shouldn't even be an issue in this country.
    So I keep saying to myself, how could anyone let this happen. It makes me feel so sad and I just can't figure it out....

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 10:53 PM

    I'm having a glass of Shirzbaro???

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 6, 2006 10:53 PM

    Hello again, my fellow Barbaromaniacs:>)

    It's a wonder I didn't get fired today from being so involved with this horse slaughter issues..........but our "horsey" friends need our help.

    Well, the next thing is our vigil in just a few minutes.

    Jeanette Cavalier

    Thank you everyone that is pushing to get this bill passed............we are an "incredible" bunch of Barbaromaniacs. Glad and proud to show it...........even if my family says they are don't know where their mother disappeared to.

    Posted by: Jeanette Cavalier at September 6, 2006 10:55 PM

    ###Karen M.. it's said that we get the representation that we deserve. so if we want better, we have to look for better people to represent us. The reps. in Texas don't care about the "little people" and that includes the animal kingdom. They care more for the money

    Posted by: Toby at September 6, 2006 10:57 PM

    Just lit some candles and will be on the road home during the vigil. I'm with you all in spirit.
    God Bless Barbaro Nation

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 10:58 PM

    DON'T FORGET TO LIGHT A CANDLE

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HR503

    LUV YA ALL,
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 6, 2006 11:01 PM

    Hi All- Called/or emailed a few Ohio reps today.
    Can not report 100% success. Had people hang up on me on phone messages. The ones that were appreciative were the ones who are voting for NO slaughter of horses. I thought it would be nice to commend several reps( Esp. S. Brown my county rep) on their choice to vote no slaughter.
    We made an excellent showing today in our effort to support NO Slaughter of horses. We have no reason to hang our heads down regardless of how the vote goes. So, we may now have a
    Barbarotini. Will get back to you on that. I have ideas.
    BARBARO--you bring a smile to my face & heart. Keep on munching healthy vegies & feel-
    ing happy.
    Lee in Ohio

    Posted by: Lee at September 6, 2006 11:06 PM

    Vigil: For the horses, we bring strength in numbers and fearless intent. The majority rides through the political area with ease, bringing a swift and simple resolution to the protection of our American horses. We ask that each and every person with a vote tomorrow hold the space for logic and compassion, releasing connection to any and all influences that may stand in the way of this measure. Those influences are of the past and are of mo more use to them now. Only the majority will of the people will be heard as the vote is called. -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 6, 2006 11:07 PM

    ######

    JOYCE MOORE...ARE YOU HERE ????

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 11:08 PM

    Hi All- Called/or emailed a few Ohio reps today.
    Can not report 100% success. Had people hang up on me on phone messages. The ones that were appreciative were the ones who are voting for NO slaughter of horses. I thought it would be nice to commend several reps( Esp. S. Brown my county rep) on their choice to vote no slaughter.
    We made an excellent showing today in our effort to support NO Slaughter of horses. We have no reason to hang our heads down regardless of how the vote goes. So, we may now have a
    Barbarotini. Will get back to you on that. I have ideas.
    BARBARO--you bring a smile to my face & heart. Keep on munching healthy vegies & feel-
    ing happy.
    Lee in Ohio

    Posted by: Lee at September 6, 2006 11:08 PM

    #####
    Colorado congressional district representatives:
    (in case we want to do a last minute push)

    district 1 = Diana DeGette
    Denver Office
    (303) 844-4988
    Fax: (303) 844-4996
    Washington, DC Office
    (202) 225-4431
    Fax: (202) 225-5657

    district 2 = Mark Udall
    Westminster Office
    Phone: (303) 650-7820
    Fax: (303) 650-7827
    Washington D.C. Office
    Phone: (202) 225-2161
    Fax: (202) 226-7840

    district 4 = Marilyn Musgrave
    Main Office: Loveland, CO
    (970) 663-3536
    (970) 663-5270 fax
    Washington, DC Office
    (202) 225-4676
    (202) 225-5870 fax

    district 5 = Joel Hefley
    Colorado Springs Office
    719-520-0055 voice
    719-520-0840 fax
    Washington, D.C. Office
    202-225-4422 voice
    202-225-1942 fax

    district 6 - Tom Tancredo
    202.225.7882 phone
    District Office
    720.283.9772 phone


    district 7 - Bob Beauprez
    Washington, D.C. Office:
    (202) 225-2645
    fax: (202) 225-5278
    Wheat Ridge District Office:
    303) 940-5821
    fax: (303) 940-5831

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 6, 2006 11:14 PM

    Maribel, I'm still here, just very frustrated with today's events.

    I cannot begin to fully express my dissatisfaction with many of the rep's and aides I called today. I've heard the words, "He doesn't know he's going to vote" so many times I could scream. It took everything I had not to say, "Ok, since he has yet to get his head out of his a$$ and he represents ME, I'M TELLING HIM HOW TO VOTE!!"

    I think Vice President Cheney needs to take some of these rep's on a little hunting trip!

    God bless all of you who took the time to get involved!

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 6, 2006 11:15 PM


    DEAR LORD..... BLESS BILL HR503 AND HELP IT TO PASS TOMORROW....HELP ALL THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO SEE THE INHERENT VALUE OF ALL LIFE AND KNOW THAT WHAT YOU HAVE CREATED IS SACRED....IN YOUR NAME WE ASK THIS LORD....AMEN

    BLESS YOU ALL FOR CARING SOOO MUCH...
    I AM PROUD TO CALL YOU MY FRIENDS......Maribel

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 11:17 PM

    #####
    SALLY IN KW!

    RE: YOUR POST IN "HAY ITS ME BARBARO" THREAD, I POSTED THE EXACT DR. R QUOTE. IT IS FROM THE MAY 23RD PRESS CONFERENCE/

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 6, 2006 11:18 PM

    Dear BARBARO,so happy that you are happy.....we love you so much!!


    Praying for HR503,and dear Specials' people...so sad to hear of her. I wish we knew more about her.


    God bless you dear BARBARO,you have accomplished soooo much!!!! We send love and hugs.


    Love,
    Linda A
    Oregon

    Posted by: Linda A at September 6, 2006 11:20 PM

    ##### Toby, you are so right, but I have always been so idealistic and I wanted people to be good at heart.

    #####Sally - Key West, you are so funny! I love Shirzbaro. Our store has the ability to do wine bottle labels. Wanted to send the Doc some for his B-Day, but we cannot ship to PA. State rules.

    Karen M. - Texas

    Posted by: Karen M. at September 6, 2006 11:21 PM

    ####
    Susan W - yes I am a Mizzou grad class of 92. Before Barbaro I might not have spoken to a KU Jayhawk but his polarization transcends even the deepest of rivalries. LOL.

    Everyone else - just hopped on after being out for a while. What can I do to help tonight?

    Posted by: Sheila at September 6, 2006 11:22 PM

    ########

    JOYCE..thanks ...just checking to make sure that you got back on site O.K.

    I think that it will be a close vote or we will win by a landslide......I'm still praying and one thing for sure...I KNOW...I'm not afraid to stand up and tell everyone how I would vote !!!!!

    LUV YA GIRL....YOU ALL DID GOOD....Maribel

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 11:24 PM

    TO ALL MY BARBARO NATION FAMILY ...

    OK, I'm making a vulnerable confession here ... I'm an emotional, sentimental, passionate woman who has music running in my brain ... I relate almost everything to a song that connects with my spirit.

    Tonight as I was getting ready for this very important vigil, I wanted just the right song for tomorrow's victory, and I remembered a song sung and recorded by Frank Sinatra called "Winners". I have the CD with this song and I decided that it's what I wanted and needed to listen to as I lit my virtual candles at HR503. I was so impacted by these lyrics that I wanted to share them all with you now. Some of you may even know this song.

    But after I listened to "Winners" there was another song on this same CD that caught my eye ... it's called "Noah" and I remembered that it was about the love and glory of all animals, and so I played this song as well. Tears streamed down my face as I listened to "Winners" and "Noah", and so I share them with all of you here. Please take a moment to read and reflect on these words in both songs. For me, NOBODY sings like Sinatra, but that's beside the point. Whether you love Frank or hate him (there's no 'gray' about anyone's feelings on Sinatra), the man was finely tuned to humane efforts on all levels and expressed it through his song.

    Here are both songs from the album "Ol' Blue Eyes Is Back" ...

    Winners ... For Bobby, For Miracles For Tomorrow's Victory ...

    Frank Sinatra - Winners Lyrics
    (J.Raposo)
    [Recorded June 21, 1973, Hollywood]

    Here's to the winners - lift up the glasses .
    Here's to the glory still to be.
    Here's to the battle, whatever it's for,
    To ask the best of ourselves, then give much more.

    Here's to the heroes - those who move mountains.
    Here's to the miracles they make us see.
    Here's to all brothers - here's to all people
    Here's to the winners all of us can be.

    Here's to the heroes - those who move mountains.
    Here's to the miracles they make us see.
    Here's to all brothers - here's to all people
    Here's to the winners all of us can be.

    And now, "Noah"

    Frank Sinatra - Noah Lyrics
    (J.Raposo)
    [Recorded June 4, 1973, Hollywood]

    The world's a tiny blue-green ark
    Afloat in darkest space.
    And every creature lives his time
    And knows his special place
    And each of us is Noah
    With a life all in our care
    To keep against the darkness
    That's flooding everywhere

    We've got to walk with the lion,
    Soar with the eagle,
    Sing with the nightingale
    And live in love and peace.

    The times have made us fearful
    And our fears have brought the tears
    The loneliness and darkness
    Have grown bitter with the years
    But a light is just beyond us
    and the children almost see
    A world that we've forgotten
    And the world they want to be

    When we walk with the lion,
    Soar with the eagle,
    Sing with the nightingale
    And live in love and peace.

    The ark is getting crowded now
    And each of us must know
    When everything is finished here
    There's no where else to go.
    The beasts are here to bless us
    And the faith is in their eyes
    That we can find the garden
    And see that sweet dawn rise

    And we can walk with the lion,
    Soar with the eagle,
    Sing with the nightingale
    and live in love and peace.

    We've got to walk with the lion,
    Soar with the eagle,
    Sing with the nightingale
    And live in love and peace.

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 11:28 PM

    You guys are so amazing. I'm so proud to be part of this site....also having a Barbalot. Even if this does not go our way tomorrow we can have the insight and know how to do it again. We've done our best. Outstanding people.

    Ashley

    Posted by: Ashley at September 6, 2006 11:30 PM

    Linnie

    Frank Sinatra is my fav singer.

    Godspeed all of us.

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz (who lives 10 miles from Fair Hill) at September 6, 2006 11:31 PM

    Lord God, wrap HR 503 in Divine Love and Divine Order. Open the heart of every member of Congress, and let them clearly hear the voice of the horse, and feel the Magnificent Spirit of the horse. Let them vote with their hearts, and their conscious for the highest good of all.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 6, 2006 11:31 PM

    I think Vice President Cheney needs to take some of these rep's on a little hunting trip!

    God bless all of you who took the time to get involved!


    Posted by: joyce moore at September 6, 2006 11:15 PM

    Forgive me for saying this, but the devil made me do it ...

    Methinks that VP Cheney should pose as "Quayle" on a subsequent hunting trip ... both the quail AND the "QUAYLE" kind ...

    Does anyone remember how to spell P-O-T-A-T-O-E????

    Or about these pearls of wisdom coming from the mouth of Quayle when attempting to quote the wonderful mantra of the NAACP which should be: "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste" ... TO WHICH ...

    Then VP Quayle paraphrased:

    "It's a terrible thing to lose your mind." No kidding .... this is what the man said.

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 11:33 PM


    #######

    MARY S...THANK YOU...THAT WAS LOVELY !!!!!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 11:34 PM

    Not trying to be scary ShelleyA...just realistic.

    I'm concerned about what the rules committee
    (9 non co-sponsors / 4 co-sponsors)is going to send to the floor tomorrow. If all of those ridiculous amendments from Goodlatte are attached...

    When we can see the final version I'll feel better...


    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 11:35 PM

    ####################

    Linnie

    Frank Sinatra is my fav singer.

    Godspeed all of us.

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz (who lives 10 miles from Fair Hill) at September 6, 2006 11:31 PM

    Sinatra is CLASS with a capital "C" ... so glad that you 'see' and enjoy it too, Jazz!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 6, 2006 11:36 PM

    Linnie,

    I do remember that! I wonder if 'losing one's mind (heart, soul)' is a prerequisite to running for office.

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 6, 2006 11:38 PM

    ######

    SUSAN W

    No, I am not a Mizzou person. I am a Husker by birth, raising, and training. Did my undergrad there. Like the Hawks. Younger brother is a Hawk x 2. I did my grad school here in STL at Washington Univ., which has no bearing on anything pertaining to my identity.

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 11:38 PM

    Christian,
    Yes, I am worried also.

    Congressman Whitfield was VERY clear on Tuesday. If it does not pass this time in it's original form, it will not make it back again. There will be no second chance. It took years to get this to the floor for a full vote.

    Someone mentioned it's going to be on Nightline tonight. I imagine they would have the final version.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 6, 2006 11:39 PM

    ######
    Down here at the border I'm lighting candles and having a Barbarita!!

    To Susan H:
    Excellent choice of words, I can just hear it through the wind flowing into the ears of the House of Representatives.

    Posted by: Carol at September 6, 2006 11:39 PM

    Thanks to everyone who took the time to say a prayer for the vote on HR 503.

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 6, 2006 11:40 PM

    We will prevail. I did a roll call vote of al 435 reps for my vigil. It took exactly 30 minutes. The vote was unanimous for the untainted HR 503 and there were many apologies.
    This is my version of prayer!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 6, 2006 11:40 PM

    okay...So I didn't say "you bonehead bureaucrats" but I was thinking it....It was certainly IMPLIED..DID say everything else, though. I just get so weary of how things change between campaign days and elections and a couple of years into term. All that glad-handing, in your face, promise the world stuff that soon falls by the wayside.

    maybe I'm a bit overly sensitive, having been involved in many human rights, animal rights, and conservation/environmental campaigns over the years, starting when I was in college. After so many years of politicos' feigned interest, their eyes glazing over after a few seconds of conversation, or worse yet, total disdain and the looks that say "oh GOD please, not another one", I've become discouraged. But I won't give up just yet. Voice mail, email and faxes piled high from overnight fax campaigns can be very persuasive.

    This just so important, My People :) I love My People!

    Thanks, Martine, for sharing your meeting with Mr. Aleo.

    Later, Everyone!

    attitudes

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 11:43 PM

    I'm so glad to know Big Boy is doing well today! I hope LITF is feeling spunky too. I pray his chemo works for him.

    I'm also hoping that tomorrow HR503 passes. I really don't know why we are having opposition to this bill. Horses are not livestock, they are our pets. It' sinful that horse slaughter has been allowed to continue in this country so long. I'm praying it will stop tomorrow!

    Good Luck and Thanks to everyone for working so hard to make HR 503 a reality!!

    Cindy a

    Posted by: cindy a at September 6, 2006 11:46 PM

    Goodnight to all....
    Just got back from the candle site and found LITF candles low.....This boy needs us..... so light some more for Fog!

    Sweet Dreams Bobby and the nights are getting a little chilly so pull your sleep cap over your ears and have wonderful dreams of piles and piles of baby carrots with greens!!!! (beta carotene....yum....good for the boy!)
    Catch you all tomorrow!

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 6, 2006 11:46 PM

    I posted this on the Forum but also want to post this here in case some of you don't visit the forum area


    ####

    Pat yourselves on the BACK

    you are all just so Great, so fantastic, I just can NOT find the right words at the moment.

    No matter how this turns out (we are praying for a passage!!) You all need to be so proud of yourselves for the hard work you have shown us in the last 48hrs!! You may have become frustrated by some answers, but believe me, they have heard us, and they know we are out there!!! The name BarbaroManiacs, Barbaro Effect, Horse hands across America are upon their lips, their thoughts. I was amazed at some comments such as:

    You are another BarbaroManiac? how many are there??

    Tell me about these BarbaroManiacs?

    How did a racehorse cause this to happen??

    and it goes on..

    I am PROUD OF YOU ALL!! Shelley A, Debra WI. all the others that have been pushing us all to remember this and to fight for this, are Proud of you!!!!!!!!!!

    And finally. ALEX BROWN. Thank you so very much for allowing us this site, the TWR site to bring this issue to focus, to put it on the updates and for supporting us on this. You are a humble but gracious man. You have shown how much you love what you do and your love of horses.

    To the Jacksons. Thank you for Barbaro and allowing us to watch his recovery and experience what a grand horse he is, without him and these sites and owners like you. This issue would not have been so highlighted than it was. Many who never knew about the cruelty of horse slaughter houses now know and are outraged and fighting for those that do not have a voice..

    We the BARBAROMANIACS are the VOICES for those that can not speak, and WE ARE A FORCE to be reckened with and we will NOT BE SILENCED. WATCH US ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bless all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 6, 2006 11:47 PM

    SusanE. how I hope you version of events turns out to be true.

    Ashley

    Posted by: Ashley at September 6, 2006 11:49 PM


    #######

    CINDY...I AGREE WITH YOU !!!!! CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS BILL WOULD NOT BE PASSING BY A LANDSLIDE???? IT'S A NO BRAINER....HORSES ARE OUR PETS NOT OUR DINNER!!!!! WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?????

    Posted by: Maribel at September 6, 2006 11:51 PM

    ######
    joyce moore at September 6, 2006 11:15 PM
    Too! funny.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 6, 2006 11:51 PM

    #########

    Linnie....
    Thanks for the lyrics..and for the confession. We are kindred souls. I relate a lot of things to music. I see beautiful sights here in CO and hear Aaron Copeland. It all comes together. Music and emotion are so deeply connected.

    Throughout these past few months I hear, and have played over and over again "Because We Believe"

    Like stars across the sky
    We are born to shine
    All of us here, because We Believe

    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 6, 2006 11:52 PM

    Linnie...so very true! and the darkness is still all around us.

    Time to call it a night. Almost afraid to find out the results tomorrow.

    Barbaro, sweet prince, I've come to tuck you in, whisper a sweet lullabye in your ear, have a good night's rest, dream lovely dreams, maybe Peter will take you to graze again tomorrow...Hugs and smoochies, babycakes!

    Posted by: Toby at September 6, 2006 11:55 PM

    Excellent visualization Susan E.!

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 6, 2006 11:57 PM

    ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    I am so proud of us all!!!!

    XXOO to everyone!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 7, 2006 12:00 AM

    Hi, Barbaromaniacs: They are talking about the HR 503 bill on CSPAN--House of Reps. Just turned on the TV.......Oops, now they're talking about the rescue efforts during Katrina.

    I hope they bring the horse slaughter issue back up.

    Posted by: Jeanette C. at September 7, 2006 12:00 AM

    #####
    To my Barbaro Family....wish I could be joining ya'll with a Barbarotini, Shirazaro, Barbarlot, Barbarita or Barbarobrew. I have to work tonite...boo hoo. Will check back later to read up on posts!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:01 AM

    You guys are so amazing. I'm so proud to be part of this site....also having a Barbalot. Even if this does not go our way tomorrow we can have the insight and know how to do it again. We've done our best. Outstanding people.

    Ashley

    Posted by: Ashley at September 6, 2006 11:30 PM

    ASHLEY ... BARBALOT IS SO UNIQUELY BARBAROLICIOUS, RIGHT????????????/ LOVE IT ... CHEERS AND SALUTE'!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 12:02 AM

    #########
    To my TEXAS sisters and all others who contacted Texas representatives....
    Great job today calling and emailing the idiot Texas representatives that are opposing this bill.
    Obviously, we have alot more work to do in Texas to elect more passionate representatives that support animal rights. I would like to kidnap each one of them and drive them to one of our Texas slaughterhouses and let them view the horrid acts on a more personal basis. Jerks!
    Way to go BarbaroManiacs...we socked it to them today!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:05 AM

    #####

    Ok for us non-drinkers...what is Shirazaro? or Shizaro? or whatevertheheckitis....

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 12:06 AM

    I called Rangel's office around 3:45, and was told by the receptionist that he had not decided how he would vote on the bill. She was very polite, asked for my position, and said they had received many calls yesterday and today.

    I followed up with a fax to his office - I'm also surprised given his history of going against special interests and advocating on behalf of the underdog (or underhorse as the case may be).

    Also called and faxed Walsh and McHugh just for the record, but they are too beholden to the livestock lobby to vote for the bill.

    I think I'm going to go into my office early tomorrow to send another fax to Rangel. The forces working against the bill are making a hugh last minute push - perhaps they think that a lot of opposition at the last minute will make members of Congress feel that momentum has turned against the bill.

    Sorry this is so long, first post, but just wanted to make sure people follow up on Rangel. Hopefully he can be made to realize he should support the bill.

    ps: what a wonderful grass roots effort this is, and what great assets this site and the forum are.

    Bonnie

    Posted by: Bonnie at September 7, 2006 12:06 AM

    Cheryl Jones....

    Dittoes on Copeland. The Grand Canyon Suite is my favorite Sunrise music. Got me through a rough time.

    Shelly A...Don't get down, you are my Hero.
    I will never watch the slaughter video as I know it will haunt me for the rest of my life. If only these politician could be forced to watch.

    Posted by: Cathy Potter at September 7, 2006 12:07 AM

    Linnie,

    I do remember that! I wonder if 'losing one's mind (heart, soul)' is a prerequisite to running for office.

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 6, 2006 11:38 PM

    NO COMMENT, JOYCE .... EXCEPT TO SAY:

    I don't think that affliction has invaded "My Boy, Bill" ...

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 12:08 AM

    Re. Texas: For the smarmy folks who don't care about animals or conservation, all that gerrymandering they did a few years ago really paid off. We can all thank Tom Delay for that.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 12:09 AM

    DON'T get mad....

    I was thinking, with all the probably sneaky last-minute amendments...it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if the vote didn't go forward tomorrow, AS LONG AS it goes forward soon. This would allow time to "get to know" the amendments and deal with them. It also allows more time to get our message out.

    Just looking ahead for a silver lining.

    If incumbents do get swept out of office in large numbers in November, we might actually end up with a better Congress for this sort of thing.

    I'm certainly not throwing in the towel, mind you!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 12:09 AM

    ####
    Oh yea, one more thing. I cancelled my membership in the AQHA today and told them the exact reason I was doing it. I also informed them that the cancellations are only beginning after I get through telling all my Texas horse people about their support of slaughtering our horses. Shame on them. Maybe they should move the AQHA to France.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:09 AM

    "Re. Texas: For the smarmy folks who don't care about animals or conservation, all that gerrymandering they did a few years ago really paid off. We can all thank Tom Delay for that.

    J. Carson Black"

    Yes, I agree.

    I have a saying: "Karma is a mutha."

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 12:10 AM

    I am pooped, with all the calling and faxing.
    Pray someone hears us.

    Now let us pray for our Barbaro, who I am sure loved Peter's visit.

    Pray for The Fog, who needs us.

    Think we all did a great job today.
    We all tried, that's for sure!

    Will we hear something tomorrow??????

    Alex your the best, just the best!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 7, 2006 12:10 AM

    ###

    PS to my above Post. Being a Cancer "fighter" and being able to help with this issue "behind the scenes", emailing, phoneing, has REALLY helped me also. It has helped take my mind off of all the "other" stuff and I went into this first with the thought "how can I help?" I don't have money to give, I can not travel. but from some great peoples encouragement and the sites, I found I did have a place in all of this, even behind the scenes. I had my computer, I had information, and I sure knew how to email!!! Today I made phone calls and talked to some great people and yes, some not so great people. But they knew my stance, and they knew what I was passionate about.

    So this has been much better medicine for me. I felt like I was really helping the cause.

    Thank you for allowing me to help and be a part of things!! for giving me the strength and kick in the pants that YES you can help on this talk (you know whom you are!! )

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 12:11 AM

    Per the HSUS 13,448 calls were made to congress today!

    We KNOW they heard us, the question is whether they'll listen.

    Trust me, they'll be hearing from me again if they didn't.

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 7, 2006 12:11 AM

    Good one, Lynn! I wish I belonged so I could cancel, too!

    Maybe the AQHA people should take a leaf out of the Jockey Club's book and have only live stallion covers.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 12:12 AM

    #####
    Pamela,
    Shiraz is a red wine!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:12 AM

    ######
    Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:09 AM

    Good for you, let me know if you hear back from the AQHA

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 7, 2006 12:15 AM

    ####
    Linnie

    I am a Sinatra geek. I know most of his material from 18 to 80.

    I esp love the Song "Our Town..."

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz (who lives 10 miles from Fair Hill) at September 7, 2006 12:17 AM

    Goodnight sweet Barbaro.

    In your name, many phone calls were made, galvanized by an overwhelming love for you.

    I will pray for the unammended passage of HR503.

    I will pray for the horses whose fate hangs in the balance.

    I will pray for Lost in the Fog and all who love him.

    I will pray for all here who have spent countless hours in their advocacy for innocent animals who have no voice.

    I will, as always, pray for you Barbaro.

    Good night sunshine,
    xoxoxo

    Believe in Miracles
    Believe in Barbaro

    Posted by: Lisa Morin at September 7, 2006 12:17 AM

    Lynn, in Austin -

    I called Culberson's office (Houston rep) w/a heavy heart. This man is as bad as Goodlatte! But, I gave his aide an earful - hopefully she's thinking twice about who she works for....

    Sens Hutcheson & Cornyn should know me by now - I've been bombarding them with letters on this issue for almost three years now!

    I just don't get it - Texas= cowboys = horses! (I'm from MD but have been in TX for almost 16 years). How can TX be so cold to the very creature that "made" this state??

    EVERYONE HERE SHOULD BE SO PROUD! We've done our best and I know we'll keep fighting if need be! Thank you all - you've become part of my family (even tho I don't post a whole lot! ;o) Each and every one of you are truly blessed individuals!

    Big B, thank you for bringing us all together! You just continue to grow that hoof & keep the others healthy!

    Finally, Alex: what can I say? You are truly a Guardian Angel! My deepest gratitude! I owe you more than a few pints! Cheers!

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 12:18 AM

    ####
    J.Carson Black...Right on...I doubt they would ever listen to the Jockey Club. TOOOOOOO da*n much money in Quarter Horse breeding to go to live cover.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:18 AM

    Sorry gang, but I am sooooo bummed out about what just happened, that I can't even type. I was just listneing to a local radio talk show in Dallas. They were discussing HR503. Charlie Stenholm,who is a former Texas rep and is now a lobbiest for the slaughter houses (a fact never mentioned on the show) was the guest. Of course, he spewed all the reasons why the bill should pass and talked about how humane the killing was. He sounded so concerned for the horses. What would happen to them if there were no slaughter houses, how people would dump them in the country, etc. He ended by saying that if you cared about horses, call your congressman to ask him to vote against the bill. I wanted to throw up!!!! So I decided to come here to soothe my soul.

    My only hope is that maybe because the calls were all going one way today, that this was a last ditch effort by the other side to get their supporters to contact the house members. I can only hope. I have to end on a positive note.

    Posted by: Patty in Dallas at September 7, 2006 12:18 AM

    Lisa Morin-

    So beautifully put. It moved me to tears. But, what doesn't these days.

    Ashley

    Posted by: Ashley at September 7, 2006 12:19 AM

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    Patty in Dallas...
    Any idea where Lobbyist Stenholm lives? I can be there in 3 hours with a trailer full of manure!
    LOL!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:20 AM

    I just got home and checked my e-mail...no response from Mike Honda's office on how he will vote. I will call again first thing tomorrow.

    I cannot think of a greater tribute to our beloved (((Bobby))) than for this bill to become law.

    Mad props to all of you.

    (((Alex))) I wish all men had your integrity. If so this bill would pass 435 to 0.


    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 7, 2006 12:21 AM

    Hello all!

    Been under the weather for a few days and have not been keeping up with the posts. I have however, been in contact with my Florida House Rep, Mike Bilirakis. He is fortunately one of the Co-Sponsors of HR503. I actually first contacted him several months ago about this issue and received a very nice letter some time back. Anyway, I've urged 15 of my friends and family to also contact him and/or their own Rep, and I can confirm that all 15 have! I've still got another couple of friends to call this evening.

    And now Barbaro sweet boy! Have a peaceful night! I thank the Lord for the healing that has taken place and for the healing to come!

    And LITF, I am praying for you and your people!

    Susan A
    Tampa

    Posted by: Susan A at September 7, 2006 12:22 AM

    I've been a member of the AQHA for 20 years. I haven't cancelled my membership at this time because I want to keep track of the horses I've known over the years. BUT, they get emails and letters from me on a regular basis regarding their stance on slaughter as well as other issues.

    Rewarding owners/riders for slowing down their horses to the point that they all look lame is another issue I have with them. When I used to ringmaster QH shows I couldn't help but point this out to the judges.

    I also think that breed associations should start doing inspections like a lot of the Warmblood registries do. Maybe if we eliminate some of the terrible conformation being bred, AQHA wouldn't be in support of slaughter. I've often wondered if they use the slaughter houses for their mistakes in breeding some of these horses.

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 7, 2006 12:22 AM

    All of us here have definitely seen the power of prayer over the last three and half months. Not only has there been lots of prayer, but also lots of hard work by some Barbaromaniacs, and lots of E-mails and phone calls by the rest of us. We have to believe that HR503 will pass.

    Fog
    I pray you are remaining strong as you have begun (or prepare to begin) your chemo. I pray for wisdom for all who love you and are making decisions for you. I'm praying for a miracle for you.

    Alex
    Thank you for your deligence in getting us our Bobby updates under all circumstances. You are awesome!

    Bobby
    I bet your grazing with Peter was a very special time for both of you. You know he loves you very much. I thank God your healing is continuing and that all is well. God is so good and He will continue to protect and heal you. I pray believing and expecting there will be more good reports about you tomorrow. You have a good night, magnificent horse.

    Posted by: Susan in TX at September 7, 2006 12:22 AM

    That Stenholm is a major creep. I looked him up - he is the baddest of the bad. He's not just a yellow dog Democrat, he's a Cowpie-with-flies Democrat.

    How about a petite Barbasyrah? Or a nice Barbardolino?

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 12:22 AM


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    MARY L...DO A VISUALIZATION...ALL THE ONES NOT VOTING FOR HR503 ARE CANCERS AND MUST BE ELIMINATED....HOPE YOU'RE FEELING BETTER !!!!!

    I LUV YA SPECIAL LADY....Maribel

    Posted by: Maribel at September 7, 2006 12:23 AM

    All of us here have definitely seen the power of prayer over the last three and half months. Not only has there been lots of prayer, but also lots of hard work by some Barbaromaniacs, and lots of E-mails and phone calls by the rest of us. We have to believe that HR503 will pass.

    Fog
    I pray you are remaining strong as you have begun (or prepare to begin) your chemo. I pray for wisdom for all who love you and are making decisions for you. I'm praying for a miracle for you.

    Alex
    Thank you for your deligence in getting us our Bobby updates under all circumstances. You are awesome!

    Bobby
    I bet your grazing with Peter was a very special time for both of you. You know he loves you very much. I thank God your healing is continuing and that all is well. God is so good and He will continue to protect and heal you. I pray believing and expecting there will be more good reports about you tomorrow. You have a good night, magnificent horse.

    Posted by: Susan in TX at September 7, 2006 12:23 AM

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    Julie Z..Isn't Kay Bailey Hutchinson for the bill?
    I thought she was. Yep...Horses, Cattle, Cowboys(and can't forget the Indians) are what made Texas legendary. Oh..and the hottie George Strait!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:24 AM

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    HMMMPPFFFF I could say a few things about Mr Charlie Stenholm, but Alex would boot me from the site. Just say the guy is talking out of his backside and he should not be talking. Just take a look at his record.. Course he supports the "other" side. doesn't want to lose that money! jerk is what he is

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 12:25 AM

    The Houston Chronicle listed a story on horse slaughter yesterday as one of the top 3 stories readers read.

    Karen (Md.)

    Posted by: Karen g. at September 7, 2006 12:25 AM

    Patty,

    If the show is still going on, call in. If you get through, voice your reasons for passage of the Bill. If it's over, send the station an email - preferably to the interviewer!

    And, bring up the point of a human's responsibility! Horse slaughter just enables those who treat animals as possessions, to be tossed out when no longer wanted.

    Also bring up the fact that, in CA, horse theft dropped by almost 40% when that state banned horse slaughter!

    I don't own a horse because I know I cannot financially take care of him/her properly. And, I won't buy another until I'm in a position to care for him/her. This shouldn't be an option!

    Unfortunately, abuse and neglect will continue until the gov't strengthens the laws and actually enforces them....

    We all feel what you're feeling. That's why we're here - to support each other and our 4 legged family!

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 12:25 AM

    Congress voted to save the Dauphins, do they think less of our horses?
    Jake is right about the breeding!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 7, 2006 12:26 AM

    Lynn,

    Unless she's verrrryyyy recently changed her mind, she's pro slaughter. The last letter on this topic I received from her was about 4 months ago and it wasn't encouraging.

    Maybe she's had a change of heart????? Wouldn't that be a miracle in itself!

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 12:27 AM

    Joyce - I couldn't believe what they'd done to quarter horses - especially the Western and English Pleasure horses. Giraffes looking for their lunch money. I read an article about how the muscles of their backs are all screwed up.

    That's one reason I like remuda ranch horses, or cutting and reining horses, or running quarter horses. They have to actually do something athletic!

    It's just plain nutty! And a big-money business, from what I've heard. All to turn this breed into a bunch of cripples!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 12:29 AM

    Lynn in Austin,

    Thank you so much! I really needed that laugh!!

    Posted by: Patty in Dallas at September 7, 2006 12:30 AM

    I would have predicted Kay Bailey Hutcheson would be on the killing side of the equation. She's very status quo, especially when it comes to monied interests.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 12:32 AM

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    Julie...I found these names on the Forum that our wonderful Mary had posted regarding who was not in favor of the bill. This is how I knew who to call today.
    Maybe she changed her mind??!!!

    Texas: Barton; Bonilla; Brady; Carter; Conaway; Cuellar; Culberson; Delay; Edwards; Granger; Hensarling; Hinojosa; Sam Johnson; Marchant; Neugebauer; Reyes; Sessions; Smith; Thornberry

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:32 AM

    MARTINE - thanks for letting Mr. Alea know that the Barbaromaniacs all support him and The Fog...did you let him know we have vigils for Foggy?

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at September 7, 2006 12:33 AM

    Alex & Team Barbaro,

    You should feel proud of what you started here. I would love to hear more about Peter's time with Barbaro. God night sweet horse, keep healing.

    Posted by: Mary at September 7, 2006 12:34 AM

    Barbaro you are an amazing horse! The love for you has brought so many people together for good. Goodnight sweet boy, sweet dreams.

    LITF you are in my prayers for healing.

    Mike Rea, may God continue to heal you.

    Hope to hear good news on HR503.

    Goodnight Barbaromaniac's!

    Posted by: SueH at September 7, 2006 12:34 AM

    Great job everybody!! We've called, encouraged, e-mailed and prayed..I know the good Lord is listening to us, this issue is in good hands...At this point, I'm going to keep those prayers coming...

    Now it's nighty, night, time to tuck in our big bay boy! Sweet dreams, Barbaro, gets lots of rest tonight, so glad you had a good day with Peter as your dining guest! Be a good boy, Dr. R will be back soon.

    God bless Barbaro, keep him strong, make him stronger.

    God bless Foggy, help the treatments shrink those tumors.

    Blessings tonight for Special, God keep her in Your care.

    Lord, please help those voting tomorrow, please give them the wisdom, grace and good conscience to make the right decision.

    See you in the morning.

    Posted by: Sue W. at September 7, 2006 12:34 AM

    Hiya, Bobbey! SO glad to read that you got to go out for a grazing session with your dear friend, Peter B. That must've been so wonderful for you both. Here's to sweet dreams for our sweet prince tonight. Hugs, pets, & "scratches" - Robyn, Brent, & Nikita

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at September 7, 2006 12:35 AM

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    J.Carson Black..Good point on Hutcheson.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:36 AM

    Lynn, I feel a kinship to you folks in Texas. Your lege sounds exactly like our lege here in AZ. A bunch of knee-jerk reactionaries with their noses firmly in the trough. It's not a pretty picture.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 12:40 AM

    I just want to say that you all impressed the he....ck out of me today! All of the calling, faxing, emailing and posting, you guys must be completely exhausted. You are truly a "force to be reckoned with".

    I applaud each and every one of you! And secondly, but not least, thank you. This site continues to reinforce the belief that there are good and wonderful people out there. Thank you.

    I am anxious to hear how the vote goes and especially curious as to how my Representative votes. I will be sure to send him a letter once the results are revealed - he will determine the contents!

    I'm so impressed. I offer a round of applause to all of you. So cool!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at September 7, 2006 12:41 AM

    J Carson Black,

    It truly is a shame. They bred the legs and hooves right off these horses. The foundation bred QH's are much stronger in conformation and ability than the 'new' version. I also think they should close the appendix book. There's too much TB blood in the QH. (NOT SLAMMING TB's) A 1,200 lb + QH on long, skinny TB legs isn't pretty. They are a farrier dream ($$) and a vet's nightmare.

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 7, 2006 12:41 AM

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    Joyce and J.Carson Black..
    I used to show hunters in English Pleasure when I was a wee one. It breaks my heart to see what those horses look like now. They look so miserable plodding around the ring.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:42 AM

    Lynn,

    She's not on that list because she's a Senator (along w/ Cornyn). Those on the list are State Reps. Once it gets thru the House, it goes to the Senate....

    J. Carson,

    Where did we all go so wrong?? I'd love to just wipe out everyone in office (not Literally) and start fresh! How do people become so Cold??

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 12:45 AM

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    Ok peoples, I am taking a break, My Outlook Express is about to explode, and if I get one more automated reply saying " Thank you for your concerns blah blah blah" my head will too.

    I have used up enough long distance that Air Miles should owe me a free flight!

    Thank you to everyone who supplied the board and myself with the names and numbers, links and email address's. There is something to be said for multi tasking just not sure what it is :) But I think I have mastered it.

    This issue is one that has concerned me for a long time, I am proud to say that I have indeed made my own dent and I will keep trying to make a difference instead of just saying " Oh, thats terrible "

    Barbaro, One thought of you outside grazing was enough to light the fire in me. Once again, you have compelled us all, to not give up and keep on fighting.

    "There can be miracles, When you believe"


    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 12:45 AM

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    J.Carson Black...Ahhh...Arizona....I like to call it my second home state. I lived in Cave Creek with my horses for about 4 years from 99-2003.
    Absolutely loved the desert and the mountains for riding. I still have very good horsey friends in AZ. Yes, the lege is as screwed up there as it is in Texas.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:46 AM

    it's funny---I called one of Goodlatte's offices and talked to the aide, and she asked to call me back, and we had a good long discussion about horses. I think she's not too pleased with his sneaky tactics. She told me she had a good ranch horse and I perked right up. Oh, a *real* quarter horse! From a good remuda.

    The halter horses are awful, too. They look like the Michelin Man, and their feet are tiny and look like they've rotated right straight down into the ground. When I was a kid, I used to get the Quarter Horse Journal, and those horses were gorgeous!

    TB is fine for racing quarter horses. But I can't figure out what they're doing. They have the balloon animals on one side, and the giraffes on the other...

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 12:49 AM

    Just received a phone call from my dear friend, Reed Hillman, who is running for LT. Governor in MA. He was a State Rep. previously. He relayed nothing is better than a phone call or fax in regards to what we are trying to accomplish and he has also placed some phone calls to some folks in DC for us. Any little bit helps!

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 12:49 AM

    Julie Z,

    How do they become so cold? They were always cold, just showed some warmth during their campaigns.

    They get elected and instead of representing us, they assume they know what is in our best interest. What is in their best interest is cozying up to whatever industry will emply them after we kick them out of office.

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 7, 2006 12:49 AM

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    Julie Z...oh do I feel stupid..she is a Senator..I was so wound up today and not even a Barbarotini to blame it on.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:50 AM

    I missed it, too! And I knew she was a senator. She'll be someone we'll have to deal with down the line...

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 12:51 AM

    Here's a link to a happy horse story! We all deserve a "study break".

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 12:52 AM

    "There can be miracles, When you believe"

    I believe in Barbaro!
    I believe in The Fog!
    I believe in this bill!
    God is on our side you all know this, don't you?

    Thanks Alex for all you have done!
    Going to have a glass of wine now. Hope to wine down, from this day.
    You are all great people! Glad to be here with you!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 7, 2006 12:53 AM

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    Susan E....I couldn't pull it up..and I need it!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:55 AM

    Well everyone, I'm going to have a few of those "Barbarobrews" and call it a night.

    Sweet dreams !!

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 7, 2006 12:55 AM

    I just read the Dr. Richardson & staff will receive the 2006 Eclipse Merit Award. Read about it here:
    http://opinions.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=35205

    Posted by: Mary at September 7, 2006 12:55 AM

    Deb,

    That's awesome!

    We'll keep fighting! If we don't get passage of this bill, we keep fighting! Elections will be coming around and we all have a good memory as to who is listening to the will of their constituents. We just have to continue getting word out and then getting people to vote based on what the candidates have done and where they stand.
    Keep the Faith, everyone! It'll happen - we'll make it happen!

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 12:55 AM

    #### I read recently that Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said that he only wants to address issues of national security this week. In my e-mail to my Congressman (who is apparenly supporting HR 503 & is a veteran, unlike many people now in the House), I reminded him that horses played an important part in the defense of this country, into the 20th century. I also reminded him that the image of horses running unfettered on the Great Plains is an important symbol of freedom in our national psyche. I also asked him NOT to support any amendments to this Bill. Hope it helps! Robyn H.

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at September 7, 2006 12:56 AM

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    Taking a break to finish some work...will check back later to tuck our boys in!

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 12:57 AM

    Lynn,

    Don't feel stupid! They're all just politicians! Most are in it for the same thing in the end - be they state reps or senators! Like shrimp & lobsters - both are bottom feeders when the day is done! :o)

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 12:58 AM

    I wonder how many of these politicians have actually witnessed what goes on in the slaughter houses? Before they make a final decision they should do their homework and spend a day at a horse slaughter house. After that, if they have any brain or heart at all, it won't be hard to make the right decision.

    Posted by: cindy a at September 7, 2006 12:58 AM

    SHELLEY A - GOD BLESS YA GIRL. THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE FOR BARBARO,FOR US, FOR ALL THE ANIMALS THAT DO NOT HAVE A VOICE AND FOR YOURSELF.
    GOD SPEED SHELLEY...

    MARY L - THANK YOU TOO! YOU HAVE STAYED ONLINE THROUGH THESE LAST FEW DAYS AND REALLY KEPT EVERYONE POSTED AND DID SO MUCH AS WELL. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL OF YOUR KIND WORDS AND FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

    KERRIE,CHRISTIAN & EDIE, SUSAN E, DEBBIE LA, AND ALL OF YOU COUNTLESS OTHER BARBAROMANIACS WHO HAVE CAMPAIGNED SO HARD FOR THIS CAUSE. WE SHOULD ALL BE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PROUD OF OURSELVES.

    ALEX, WHAT CAN I SAY???? 100 YEARS FROM NOW, MOST, IF NOT ALL OF US WILL BE GONE YET - SO MUCH WILL STILL BE HERE...THE LEGACY - BARBARO'S LEGACY. WITH SO MUCH ADMIRATION, GOD BLESS YOU.

    DEBRA, WI

    Posted by: Debra, WI at September 7, 2006 12:58 AM

    Robyn -

    GREAT POINTS!!!

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 12:59 AM


    I know that everyone is probably tired from making calls all day, but it is not yet over...

    >>>please E-mail three friends to E three friends, etc to send Congress an AVALANCH of E-mails urging their YES vote.

    Keep 'em brief, polite, and on point!

    CARRO--O-O-O-O-Ts Hoooooe !

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 12:59 AM

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    Thank you too Debra wi. You have been great also. Your site and your links gave me great information and ideas to draw on for my emails and my calls.

    Believe me, it was my honor to help out, gave me things to do on those evenings I could not sleep, ha ha... lots of emails!! I have more set up to auto send at 3am tonight. Just a good reminder that we are still here and waiting for them to set things right. We shall not be silent any longer!!!

    I am just humbled by being able to do this and find purpose and the will to help behind the scenes. the power of the internet. amazing!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 1:04 AM

    J Carson Black- I thought AZ had passed a "Clean Elections" law.

    They are trying to get one on the ballot here in CA I signed the petition.

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 7, 2006 1:05 AM

    Joyce,

    Just saw your reply. Guess these folks had an animal free, sterile upbringing. - How sad....

    I was bringing home stray, injured animals of all kinds from the time I could walk - and it just blossomed from there. How can ANYONE Not care? Maybe it's a lesson for me to learn, but I will continue to judge, on my level, by how people treat animals. May not be right, but, that's how I do things..

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 1:07 AM

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    Otherlyn.

    I have emails set to auto send at 3am tonight to all those on the list and to all in my state. I just got them all finished up and ready to fly!!! I will not give up until they vote...

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 1:07 AM

    Barbaro is doing great he has over 1900 candles!

    LITF only has 730...come on guys...light some candles! The Fog really needs us this week, starting chemo. Bless you all, cindy a.

    Posted by: cindy a at September 7, 2006 1:09 AM

    Hello Barbaro,

    I'm so glad that Peter got a chance to be with you while you grazed. Probably good for both of you, huh?!

    But it's time to grab your blanket and snuggle in for the night. Get some good rest and let the healing continue. Remember, only sweet dreams for you Barbaro. I love you and everything you stand for Honey. You inspire so many for so much good. Good night. I love you. XXOO

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at September 7, 2006 1:11 AM

    OK,

    I need to go light a few candles.
    Everyone have a safe & restful evening. Will talk with you tomorrow.

    Fingers & toes crossed all nite for passage of H.R. 503!

    Oh, and I've already asked my Mom & Dad to give a thump on the head to those opposing (as if to say, what are you Thinking??!!!) :o)

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 1:15 AM

    I hope I am not the only one who lost track of who they called. So many calls I made today from Shelley's list from last night that I don't remember...I will when I get the phone bill.

    Everyone here is so great...we can get things done, we can move mountains and I am sure we will move more and more. I truly feel we got this one done for our babies.

    I asked for help being I am on dial up and can't be on here to look for the latest on who is not supporting HR 503...Ryan helped me (Thanks again Ryan). He reposted a list for the rules committee.

    Back on the phone I went with 40 minutes left to post....called all I could and they seemed to listen but exhausted for the most part. Nobody would say what way they were going.

    The main number to the rules committee was answered by a very nice guy....I said my piece and asked him to relay to all again. He told me that they will post the final amendments later tonight on rules.house.gov once it was decided what amendments would go in front of the house tomorrow. Being as emotional as I am over this,,,his sympathic ways of talking got to me and I just could say...please make sure the horses are not slaughtered...he then said

    "we will be working on the rules today at 5 p.m. and those rules will be heard tomorrow WHEN the bill gets PASSED".

    I believe...I wish I remembered his name to thank him for the WHEN THE BILL GETS PASSED remark.

    MARY L OHIO....alot of the reps I talked to I mentioned being part of a great big group called Barbaromaniacs. Most seemed stunned, quiet. I even went as far to say because of Bobby's will to live and the slaughtering of horses that have that same will....will make me become a non-meat eater if this bill is rejected. Sorry not too elegant but the way I feel.

    Don't know about any of you..but I am wired still...

    A great group we are and we will be considered!

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 1:15 AM

    Julie Z

    Unfortunately many, many people believe animals don't feel or have emotions. When you are an animal lover you feel the connection. We are all God's creatures. I see and feel my "kids" emotions all the time and I don't know what I would do without them. Animals don't have souls....nonsense. It's the politicians against animal rights that are soul-less.

    Posted by: Cathy Potter at September 7, 2006 1:16 AM

    Pat G - the Clean Elections has been a godsend. It has helped a lot, but it's not just elections. Incumbents have a way of getting reelected, overwhelmingly---although that may change this year. Big business, the land speculators and developers - they all hold sway over the Arizona political landscape. It would be a lot worse, though, without the Clean Elections law. I noticed that several Texas columnists wish that Texas would emulate Az in this respect.

    What's sad is that lobbyists were writing bills and making deals right on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives, and I'm sure some of these folks we've been calling have been front and center for the handouts.

    I wish the McCain-Feingold bill could be reengineered, and have more teeth. Sigh.

    Jake

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 1:19 AM

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    sharonlynn Everyone I talked to from Ohio I gave them this site and the forum to come and check out how we are behind this issue (also gave them the grusome sites to visit). I had 2 VERY positives conversations with them today on the phone. One said he did come and look things over here, and the other said his aide did so and he was surprised by what Barbaro is doing for his kind and how passionate we were, he was surprised to see all the posts on the forum about the Slaughter bill issue.

    See People listen!! Just think of all the others that may have come to check us out. We have a voice now people, believe it or not!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 1:25 AM

    Dear fellow Barbaromaniacs,

    I feel such a kinship with you all. I called two of the closest Ohio reps today and made a case to support 503. Then I emailed the info to everyone in my address book. GOD BLESS YOU, ALEX. IF IT WERE NOT FOR YOU, I WOULD NOT FIND OUT ABOUT BARBARO OR ISSUES LIKE THIS. A cyberhug to you and my fellow fans of his highness Barbaro.

    Barbaro--you are a force to be reckoned with, on and off the track. We are strong because you are strong.Keep healing, dear one.

    Fog--we are with you. Hang in there,boy.

    Proud to be a Buckeye for Barbaro,
    Peace,
    Kathy from Toledo and the cats

    Posted by: Kathy A. at September 7, 2006 1:26 AM

    Good Evening Champ, I have neglected to do this for some time, but I feel the time is appropriate as we are very anxious about tomorrow. I know your theme song word for word and decided to copy it out once and for all. You are such an inspiration to myself and others. Love you lots big guy, sleep well and dream of dancing carrots.

    When You Believe

    Many nights we've prayed, With no proof anyone could hear, In our hearts a hopeful song
    We barely understood. Now we are not afraid
    Although we know there's much to fear, We were moving mountains, Long before we knew we could

    There can be miracles, When you believe
    Though hope is frail, It's hard to kill
    Who knows what miracles, you can achieve
    When you believe, Somehow you will
    You will, when, you believe.

    In this time of fear, When prayer so often proves in vain, Hope seemed like the summer birds
    Too swiftly flown away. Yet now I'm standing here
    My heart's so full, I can't explain, Seeking faith and speaking words, I never thought I'd say

    They don't always happen when you ask, And it's easy to give in to your fears. But when you're blinded by your pain, Can't see your way clear through the rain, A small, but still, resilient voice, Says help is very near!

    There can be miracles, When you believe
    Though hope is frail, It's hard to kill
    Who knows what miracles, you can achieve
    When you believe, Somehow you will
    You will, when, you believe.


    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 1:26 AM

    Here is the cute horse story.

    Outside the horse barn at Kay and Paul Goessling's Goose Creek Farm in
    Ladue, a trio of miniature horses is moseying around the mostly
    grassless
    corral - thanks to the tramping of many tiny hoofs - nibbling bites
    here
    and there. Kay Goessling, 65, who began raising petite equines about 15
    years ago, introduces these as Mocha, a blue roan; Rosie, a dark
    palomino;
    and White Cloud, a cream-colored palomino. She notes that none of the
    three
    stands taller than 34 inches at the "withers" (the ridge between the
    shoulder bones). Then, to a background of whinnying from stalls inside
    the
    barn, another trio bolts into the corral, slipping under the barn gate,
    which clears the ground by a foot and a half or so. Two of these three
    are
    highly energized black cocker spaniels, Duke and Bear, who rush to
    greet
    visitors. The third, a little more sedate and quite a bit more portly,
    is,
    well, just about the cutest thing you ever saw.

    "Meet Thumbelina," says Kay Goessling with a wide smile. "As of July,
    according to the Guinness World Record Book people, she is officially
    the
    world's smallest living horse." The framed certificate from Guinness,
    which
    hangs in the barn office, refers to her as a "miniature sorrel brown
    mare."

    The little creature, born five years ago, stands a mere 17 1/2 inches
    tall
    at the withers, roughly the stature of a medium-size dog, and weighs
    about
    60 pounds. She is a dwarf miniature, says Goessling, who helped with
    the
    difficult delivery the night Thumbelina entered this world weighing
    about
    10 pounds; a normal miniature horse weighs about 25 pounds at birth.
    "She
    was too tiny to nurse; we didn't see how she could survive," Goessling
    said. "But she surprised us by jumping up right away, and doing all the
    things a normal newborn horse does." (Because they produced a dwarf,
    Thumbelina's parents were not bred again; the stallion was gelded, and
    both
    have since been sold as pets.)

    From certain angles, at a glance, Thumbelina could be a tiny buffalo.
    From
    others, a potbellied pig. She has a barrel-like body, knobby legs with
    hoofs that turn under but have been corrected by a farrier with layers
    of
    acrylic, a lumpy little head with a white blaze down her face, and a
    serious underbite. And although she is by far the smallest of the
    farm's 47
    miniatures, she "rules the roost," Goessling said.

    Thumbelina owes her notoriety and status as the "world's smallest
    horse" to
    the Goessling's son Michael, 39, who two years ago - when the tiny mare
    turned three and was thus considered adult - "thought it would be fun
    to
    see if she qualified," his mother said. "We knew that the previous
    'smallest according to Guinness,' also a dwarf, was bigger, 19 inches
    tall," Goessling said. "Michael talked with Thumbelina's vet, Stu
    Robson,
    who in turn filled out the necessary paperwork to send to Guinness in
    London." After that there was a long wait with no word - until this
    summer,
    when a Guinness representative wrote the Goesslings to say a film crew
    from
    England would arrive at their farm today to photograph the tiny mare.

    And then another surprise from Guinness: On Sunday, the biggest living
    horse, according to the World Record Book, will arrive at Goose Creek
    Farm
    to be photographed with the smallest. The mighty steed, Radar, a fawn
    colored Belgian draft horse, towers to 19 hands 3 1/2-inches (6 feet 7
    1/2-inches) at the withers. Weighing in at 2,400 pounds, he is
    somewhere
    around 40 times bigger than Thumbelina, Goessling said.

    Born in Iowa, Radar was purchased by Tracy Smith of Priefert Ranch
    Equipment, and now, when he isn't "on the road promoting the company,"
    he
    resides in Mount Pleasant, Texas, she said. He maintains a busy
    schedule,
    traveling in a specially built horse trailer (to accommodate his
    stature)
    some 210 days a year, the Goesslings have been told.

    The photographers from Guinness also requested a little "cowboy" and
    "cowgirl" to lend a "nice touch" to the pictures, Goessling said.
    Grandson
    Paul Henry Goessling, 4, son of the Goesslings' son Paul, and Kate
    Schrichte, 7, daughter of Cindy and Eric Schrichte, caretakers at the
    Goesslings' other miniature horse farm in Wildwood, will do the honors,
    decked out in appropriate costumes, she said. Asked how all the
    notoriety
    might change Thumbelina, Goessling said, smiling, "I doubt she'll
    notice."

    Already the little horse sees frequent visitors and "loves people,
    especially children." And occasionally she is the star attraction at
    church
    picnics and other similar events, although "too much attention exhausts
    her," Goessling said. The family also plans for Thumbelina to make
    appearances at several regional attractions (Grant's Farm and Silver
    Dollar
    City are among those being considered), where she could be photographed
    with admirers. (Information about her appearances is supposed to go
    online
    soon at www.worldssmallesthorse.com)

    All the fanfare will also probably not much affect her regular routine,
    which includes getting frequent baths with a hose (not one of
    Thumbelina's
    favorite activities) and other grooming, and wandering wherever she
    likes
    "because she's little enough to get under the fences." She also chews
    on
    untied shoelaces whenever possible, and often goes for rides in the car
    sitting in the backseat "where she can look out the window."

    And not only does Thumbelina not travel in a horse trailer, she also
    doesn't bed down in a stall as the farm's other horses do. Her mattress
    is
    wood shavings in an igloo doghouse in the barn, leaving her free to
    come
    and go at will. Her diet includes hay, equine pellets, and "grass when
    she
    escapes the corral, which makes it hard to control her weight,"
    Goessling
    said. Nonetheless, unlike most dwarf horses, she has few health issues,
    and
    should live to be about 16 (a normal miniature can live twice that
    long).

    "Thumbelina is very special," Goessling said. "We just love her."

    ______________________

    Photo credits

    Top photo:Paul Goessling of Ladue holds Thumbelina, the world’s
    smallest
    horse. He and his wife, Kay, have been breeding and raising miniature
    horses for 15 years. Photo by Rebekah Raleigh | Post-Dispatch

    Bottom photo: Kay Goessling stands with Thumbelina, a dwarf miniature
    horse
    who is 17 inches tall. Photo by Rebekah Raleigh | Post-Dispatch

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    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 1:28 AM

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    MARY L OHIO....I agree totally...and I feel that out of curosity reps I talked to will come here just to see what the big deal is....boy are they gonna have their eyes opened wide....one single horse...thank you Barbaro....you did it!

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 1:30 AM

    ATTENTION, NAUGHTY NUTMEGGERS!!!
    How did you make out with your calls today? I was somewhat disappointed when I called DeLauro's office (bearing in mind I was only speaking to some aide who appeared to care less that I was calling at all)...I mentioned that my information stated that ALL CT REPS were supporting HR503 and I was calling to support that stance...person was totally noncomittal about Rosa! So I wrote a long letter (which I can also use for senators) and faxed it off...God only knows if she'll ever see it!

    INTERESTING HORSE FACT RE CT: I was checking out MSNBC's election map and they had "state profiles" and it stated that there are 47,000 horses in CT, or one for every 72 people...THE HIGHEST RATIO IN THE US! Interesting, yes?

    Please let me know how you calls went today...
    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at September 7, 2006 1:33 AM

    #######

    SUSAN E.

    I can't wait to vote in November.

    As the saying goes, I plan to vote early and vote often ;)

    Let's NEVER forget those who are against this bill.


    BARBARO

    Thank God for you. What a magical horse you are. Hope you had fun grazing with your friend Peter today. I love you.

    FOGGY

    Be strong and make Mr. Aleo happy (and all of us, too).


    I am so tired....been on this computer on and off since 2:30 this a.m., and it's now 9:33 p.m....got to take a nap to get up and see Nightline...zzzzzzzzzzz

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 7, 2006 1:34 AM

    See People listen!! Just think of all the
    others that may have come to check us out. We
    have a voice now people, believe it or not!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 01:25 AM
    ========================================
    Let's keep that in mind and make Alex proud

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 1:35 AM

    Always good to make Alex proud. That's a worthy goal!

    And Bobby - I wish you a good night's sleep and hope that soon your cast will be off, and your hoof will grow, and you'll have more girlfriends than you can imagine. In the meantime, Buddy, enjoy that fresh green grass, enjoy your friends like Michael and Peter, and Dr. Dean and Kathy. And try not to bite anybody too hard, okay?

    Jake (even though i'm a girl)

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 1:37 AM

    Good night sweet, Barbaro. You are the reason we are all here. Have wonderful dreams of being healed. Glad you & Peter got to spend some time together.

    Good night gallant Foggy. Sleep well knowing we have your back covered.

    Good night all you wonderful Barbaromanics. What a day! Tomorrow will be even better!

    Posted by: Patty in Dallas at September 7, 2006 1:39 AM

    #######

    NANCY IN CT

    Called Shays' office yesterday and today. Nice aide told me he is a co-sponsor, so he's cool.

    We DO have a lot of horses here--eventing, hunting, dressage, shows. Fairfield County "gold coast".

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 7, 2006 1:39 AM

    Sweet Bobby,
    Sleep well. We love you, Big Boy! Have another comfortable night.
    Foggy, love you too, Brave one.

    What an honor for Dr. Dean and NBC. An Eclipse Award!!!!
    Super Shelley! You are special! As is everyone who has worked so hard in support of HR503.
    Barbaromaniacs (and don't change that name, we aren't merchandising anything!)what a wonderful family!
    Alex and Tim, thank you again. You deserve an Eclipse, too.
    Family, have a good nights sleep if you can. I know we are all anxious about tomorrow. I am praying that this time, it will be yea.
    Love to Family and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 1:40 AM

    Praying tonight for Barbaro, grow hoof and heal leg!
    Praying for Fog, shrink tumors, fight Fog fight!
    Praying for the passage of HR 503...may the peoples voices be heard for what is RIGHT and GOOD!
    Praying for all the Barbaromaniacs and Barbaro Nation....
    And to Alex, thank you thank you thank you. Cannot thank you enough. Prayers for you also.

    Go Barbaro Go!
    What an amazing creature!

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at September 7, 2006 1:48 AM

    ###

    Do not underestimate the power of talking to a Senator either. I got to speak personally today to Mike Dewine (who is also up for re-election). He is such a caring, soft spoken man. Our conversation lasted around 5 minutes but he conveyed his thoughts to me on what we are doing for the Horse Slaughter Bill and wished more people out there would stand behind what they believe in, be it the war, gasoline, or animal abuse issues. While talking to me he did go and visit the forum site and saw all the posts on the Slaughter issue. He promised me he would "pass the word" along to his reps from Ohio about the importance of this bill. I have faith he will do so. Nice to know that when this goes to the Senate, there is already a believer out there!!!

    It took me a week to get through to him, and "promises" that my call would be returned. I had put it out of my head until this afternoon when I got that phone call. COOL!!! My mother could not believe he called here!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 1:49 AM

    Hey Barbaro:

    I've been busy today and finally got a moment to stop by and say hi.

    Wow its about time to tuck you in and say goodnight. I'm glad Peter came and took you out to graze today. That must have been nice for both of you.

    Well have a good snooze tonight. I'll try to stop by tomorrow. Love ya big guy.

    Michael's Miracle

    Margaret

    Posted by: Margaret at September 7, 2006 1:51 AM

    Mary L - I have to preface this with a joke.

    Authors are basically treated like little children by our literary agents. In fact, we call our agents all the time, and they hardly ever call us back. An author is best seen and not heard. Or not even heard. Just go away, write a book, have minimal contact with us, and we'll tell you where you can send the flowers.

    Here's the joke:

    An author is out somewhere and decides to come home early. He finds his wife in bed with his agent.

    His wife starts to make excuses. The author says wonderingly, "My agent came to my *house?*"

    Anyway, that's a long way around to saying, "Your senator called your house?" Wow.

    Jake

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 1:58 AM

    Thumbelina is toooooooooo cute - now I could take care of a horse that size. She sould sleep in bed with me. How Cute - I love it!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 7, 2006 1:59 AM

    BARBARO - CHAMPION OF MY HEART...we have to do lots of praying tonight, so log off your puter and fold your hooves (can you do that?) and pray along with me for...THE PASSAGE OF HR503; all of God's creatures, known and unknown to us, who need love and protection; the safety of all horses who put hooves to tracks; Foggy's successful chemotherapy; your hoof to grow by leaps and bounds; our Saint Alex; all the wonderful Barbaromaniacs, named and unnamed; all of your staff and people; sunny days and fresh, tasty grass for you to enjoy. Say Amen, Barbaro!
    Amen!
    Nancy loves you!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at September 7, 2006 2:02 AM

    On this beautiful ' end of summer evening ' goodwill to all.

    Sleep well beloved Barbaro - such an icon and legacy you are. Keep healing well beautiful soul - we believe.

    May you feel the power of us all, Lost in the Fog

    The end of slaughter will be a dream come true tomorrow - the world can be a better place.

    No matter what tomorrow brings - we will all -Soldier On in whatever race we are in.

    Posted by: Danielle from South NJ at September 7, 2006 2:02 AM

    Barbaro - I'm going to bed soon - I want to make sure you are snuggled in your straw with your blankie - sweet horsie dreams my love - dream about carrots, studmuffins, and Dr Dreamy. I'll check in on you in the AM - XXOO and SCRATCHIES

    Foggy - snuggle in my love - have healing horsie dreams. I love you sweety.

    Special - I'm hoping you are with Gallant Secret in heaven running in heavenely fields. I'll miss you sweety.

    XXOO and SCRATCHIES to all my horsies!!!

    Aunty Sally

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 7, 2006 2:03 AM

    Dream good dreams sweet Barbaro. Healing rest to you.

    ShelleyA and everyone else who so tirelessly gave of their time and talents to help pass HR503, my deepest gratitude. When your heads touch the pillow tonight, may you all rest easy knowing you did the best you could. Now it is in their hands.

    Prayers to Foggy and Mike Rae, also TurnTo and Avery.

    This group brought together by Barbaro is doing some great things. I am so proud to be a part of this "family".

    Thank you Alex for letting this all happen. We owe you big time!!!!

    Good night to all!!

    rosemary

    Posted by: Rosemary at September 7, 2006 2:04 AM

    #######
    Jake,
    Was just catching up on posts and this one caught my eye:

    I should have known that jerk Kolbe (who has never, ever represented me ONCE in all the years he's been my "representative") would be for killing horses. It's all corporate with him. His big thing? Trying to get rid of the penny. This is where this man puts his energy. (Jake)

    After watching Congress in action...kind of sums it all up.

    And I can't wait to vote, either.

    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 2:05 AM

    NIGHT BEAUTIFUL BARBARO, HAVE A GOOD REST AND I HOPE YOU ARE STILL FEELING GREAT. I BET IT WAS REALLY NICE TO HAVE PETER GRAZING YOU TODAY, I KNOW HE MUST MISS YOU TERRIBLY. MAY GOD CONTINUE TO HEAL YOU AND SEND POWERS TO CONGRESS TO PASS THE BILL FOR ALL YOUR HORSE FRIENDS!!!

    LOVE & PRAYERS FOR EVERYONE,
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:10 AM

    Susan W, I don't think some of these folks realize the angry horde coming in their direction, complete with torches and pitchforks. And all because they couldn't spare some mercy for a horse----man's companion, friend and spiritual touchstone. But, hey, payoffs are nice, too. Until they catch up with you.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 2:10 AM

    ###

    J Carson Black

    My dad (who is now gone) was such a gunho type of person, he was always writing, calling on Senators, reps, etc when he disagreed with issues. He said if you believe in something you don't give up until you get an answer.

    He also told me " These people work for YOU, do not take no for an answer, do not give up until they listen to you.

    My father would be proud of me today (and the weeks before this) as I was never a believer in the "system", I was content to sit back and let others do things, I never thought my voice and opinion mattered. Until this issue, and my own personal battle.

    When I saw the passion, the concerns and all the sites about the slaughter issue. a Light switched on, and I knew I had to do something but what??? I don't have money to spend, I am not allowed to travel (YET), what use can I be in this?? Well some great people from this site made me realize that I had a LOT to offer to this issue. I started slow and once I got some feedback, some replies, it was like fire in the desert. took off.. I have helped some offline to compose letters to send, help with questions, but a lot I did on my own. I think my mom was worried I was "addicted" and spending too much time on the computer until I told her what I was doing.. What a smile she gave me. She simply said to me "Your dad would be proud. you finally understand his passion for the one VOICE.

    From one voice it can become 2, then more and than we are all singing along and working together.

    I will not take credit for anything. It took MANY to get this off the ground.. I was just helping it along and it also helped me. In more ways than I can put into words.


    We have put voices where there was none before. We now speak for those that can not do so. What a grand chorus we have!!!!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 2:11 AM

    I was in awe of this community before posting not so long ago, but today just blows me away. I am so inspired by the Barbaro Nation. Never have I ever before contacted anyone regarding anything political. Yet today, I was FAXing, emailing and calling the Californians.
    Today I received email response from both Senators Boxer & Feinstein who support the Senate side of the Bill.
    Tonight I pray that all the effort put forth by this Nation will not go unanswered.
    I am so proud of all of you.

    Posted by: Cathy Potter at September 7, 2006 2:15 AM

    Team Barbaro!

    Whew! Tomorrow is the big day. I am amazed at all who called, faxed, wrote letters (which is what I did),discussed and spoke their minds. Thank you for your passion, your ethics, your compassion and love of living beings. I'm not expecting a miracle...I KNOW a miracle has happened. Knowing that elections are only 2 months away doesn't hurt either. This is a time when those who never spoke up before now have their voice...and those in power will HAVE to listen. Its time for them to actually serve the people who put them in office, yes?

    Martine, that was so lovely to speak with Mr. Aleo. For all he, Mr. Gilchrist and LITF are going thru, it has to comfort him that there is all this support for Foggy- from people he doesn't know. But now he understands The Barbaro Effect. I would love to meet him and just tell him that he, like the Jacksons, is such an enlightened and compassionate owner. With horses like Foggy and Barbaro...how can one just walk away from them? You can't.

    LITF, your spirit is inspiring...hang in there my Long Time Sun...love you with all my heart.

    Bobby, you are my sunshine and my crazy diamond. So glad Peter got you outdoors today...this rainy weather has been totally crazy. I'm going to stop by NBC tomorrow and drop off an envelope containing a copy of "Barbaro's Dream". Since I can't find the Jackson's mailing address to save my soul, I'm dropping it off there - it needs to be read by the Jacksons, Michael Matz, Dr. R and Edgar Prado. Hopefully, they'll enjoy it. I have 42 bids from illustrators in 2 weeks time. I'd love to get on this during the fall/winter.

    Everybody, get lots of sleep tonight...tomorrow is a HUGE day. You should all be proud of yourselves.

    Healing and Peace (and VICTORY!!!),
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at September 7, 2006 2:17 AM

    God bless The Fog, Mr. Aleo, & Mr. Gilchrist. We are all praying for the miracle. I sent out some cards to The Fog & Our Boy Bobby today. I enclosed lots of love & prayers. Also praying for the anti-slaughter bill situation. I pray they all listen to the good angel on their shoulder & do the right thing for our beloved horses.


    Sweet Bobby! My 86-year old Mom said to tell you that she agrees with you...she prefers the spearmint candies over the peppermint ones :>)
    I should add that I received the thank you from NBC today--I made a donation to you Barbaro Fund in honor of Dr. Dean's birthday! I just loved the photo of you & went right out & bought a frame for it. I tell everyone, "That's my boy!" And I hope you enjoyed your graze with Peter today.
    It's time for me to hit the hay & I'm sure that's where you are right now. Now, have a good night of rest & healing. I am with you in spirit. See you in the morning! Love you lots :>)

    Love & prayers

    Posted by: Cheryl -- NY at September 7, 2006 2:17 AM

    Everyone - sorry I just got up to my laptop now..its almost 10pm EST.

    I'm having my parents and brother call some reps too and I will probably call again before I go to bed, even if no one is there to take it. Their machines will be blinking like mad tonight ;).

    I just wanna tell everyone to keep postive - yes, it's ok to be realistic, but let's not forget why we are here in the first place. God saved Barbaro for us - He performed a miracle - yes, he's not out of the woods just yet as Dr R says, but he did say he has a clearer path out of the woods.

    There is no reason why God cannot perform another miracle and get this bill passed. Don't be discouraged by negative phone calls you may have had or aides that didn't seem to care. The important thing is that WE care and Barbaro has a huge part in that. And I'm sure we swung a lot of reps today.

    Alex, you started this page and it's brought together people who have rallied together with the common goal of a fully recovered happy healthy Barbaro, Fog, and the betterment of all horses and animals, and now this issue of horse slaughter who would have never even known of each other and we have pulled together to fight this horrible injustice in our country.

    As it says in the Bible, Matthew 19:26 "...with God all things are possible." and in Matthew 7:7-8 it says, "Ask an dit will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened."

    and last -

    Matthew 18:19-20, "Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there I am with them."

    Not trying to "preach" to anyone at all - I just thought that those verses applied here. Sorry if I offended anyone, that was not in the slightest my intention. If I did, please accept my sincere, deepest apologies. Was just trying to shed some positive energy to everyone.

    No matter what happens tomorrow, good will come out of this. Stay positive, stay strong.

    Let's everyone get some restful sleep tonight (I know it'll be hard) and continue to press our reps on this in the morning.

    To quote others: Believe in MIRACLES. Believe in BARBARO.

    (and believe HR 503 will pass :) )

    Goodnight Barbaro and LITF and everyone. My prayers and thoughts are with you all tonight. Praying also for an end to this abomination tomorrow :).

    (Sorry for the long post and again, sorry if by posting a few verses I offended anyone - for that I'm truly sorry)

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 2:18 AM

    Mary L, your dad would be very proud. It is amazing what we can do. Especially, now that we have the internet. We made ourselves heard today, and I know we will keep at it. We have stamina. You have stamina from fighting cancer, and we all have stamina from watching Bobby go from doing well to nearly dying, to grazing with Peter today. The race may be long, but we'll get this thing done. I believe in everybody here to make it happen.

    Jake

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 2:18 AM

    Hola barbaro Nation,

    My ears look like Dumbo's from being on the phone so much. I am exhausted and nervous, but also proud to be part of this nation. I have called, emailed, prayed and lit candles.

    Last order of business: my little voodoo dolls with the names of our opponents, maybe I'll add some chicken feathers and garlic. Don't really believe in the stuff, but I'm covering all my bases.LOL

    Last but not least: Barbaro, my hero, thank you for turning this wimp into an activist. A LA VICTORIA!!!!

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 2:18 AM

    I'm so proud to be associated with this board and all you wonderful Barbaromaniacs. What a fantastic job you all did today! Shelly A, you are amazing. Thank you all so much.

    Oh, how I hope for good news tomorrow!

    I'm not an American citizen and haven't been here long enough to understand US politics very well. I did email Hillary Clinton, Charles Schumer and Thomas Reynolds, representatives from Amherst, NY, where I live. I just hope at least one of those is relevant to H.R. 503.

    Alex, thank you so much for everything you do.

    Barbaro and LITFog, have a peaceful night of healing.

    See you all in the morning.

    Posted by: Mirth at September 7, 2006 2:19 AM

    This is the time frame and rules for tomorrow morning

    http://www.rules.house.gov/SpecialRules_details.aspx?NewsID=1798

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:19 AM

    Cathy,

    Did you see my email earlier, I'm in California. Are there other Wash. people in California who don't supprt the bill?

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 2:22 AM

    Mary L - this is the second time today that you have moved me to tears. God Bless you Mary -I'm sure your Dad is very proud of you -I'm proud to sit on this board with you.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 2:22 AM

    Shannon and Zeena:

    Those words say it all for me


    ShellyA : Your leadership and spirit are awesome and truely represent the people that gather here in the name of Barbaro. YOu are also a great Horsey Mom and we hope The Alibi feels better soon.

    MaryL : Its great to see you up and at 'em again. You get knocked down, but you get up again! Hmmmmmmm now, who does THAT remind me of????? :)

    All of you guys are the best!!! Alex: TRillions upon trillions of Thanks.

    I've got my Red "Believe in Barbaro" rubber wrist band on from www.beleiveinbarbaro.com. I've got my Barbaro cap from horsehats.com. I've got my handmade beaded Lael colors bracelets from a fellow BarbaroManiac on the other wrists.
    Tomorrow I will wear them all in hopes for The House to do the right thing.

    In a way, I wish Barbaro could stroll into the House Chambers and just stand there and stare at them all while they are voting. That would be great.

    Good luck everyone.. You did your best. Now its time for the Reps to do their best. I hope they can.

    See you tomorrow. Good night Sweet Barbaro.

    Leslie in Mn

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at September 7, 2006 2:25 AM

    Ryan, you sure didn't offend me. Beautiful verses, and very potent. We need all the help we can get, and prayer is a powerful force. And thanks again, Ryan, for giving us the list of the Rules Committee. Hopefully this made a big difference, and stopped Goodlatte's gallop.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 2:26 AM

    Wow...I had to shut down due to a storm, and look at all of the posts...

    Marky...I think it is time to pull out the chicken feathers and garlic...these fine politicians deserve only the best!

    They don't want to mess with a crazy Latina that is for sure!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:26 AM

    ####
    Linnie

    I am a Sinatra geek. I know most of his material from 18 to 80.

    I esp love the Song "Our Town..."

    Jazz

    Well, from one Sinatra 'geek' to another ...

    Whatever happens tomorrow ... "WE DID IT OUR WAY!!"

    Posted by: Jazz (who lives 10 miles from Fair Hill) at September 7, 2006 12:17 AM

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:31 AM

    You know it Pamie,

    I've got the Miami Posse sending instrcutions

    Barbaro te amo

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 2:31 AM

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    Thanks so much, J.Carson Black, you never know how "verses" are always going to be received. I thought that it would be ok here, as many pray and it seems it's an open thing here, just wanted to put in that part just in case though. I'd not want to offend anyone at all. :)

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 2:31 AM

    G'night.

    Fingers crossed for tomorrow. Bobby, sleep well and don't let the bedbugs bite!

    Jake

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 2:32 AM




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    Sep 06, 2006
    5:00PM

    Summary of Amendments Submitted to the Rules Committee for
    H.R. 503 - To amend the Horse Protection Act to prohibit the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses and other equines to be slaughtered for human consumption, and for other purposes.

    Listed in Alphabetical Order
    September 06, 2006 5:00pm

    Goodlatte (VA)



    #2



    (LATE) Provides that the Federal government will take over the burden of caring for unwanted horses.




    Goodlatte (VA)



    #3



    (LATE) Provides that H.R. 503 will take effect with respect to any State where it is in violation of the laws thereof to ship, transport, move, deliver, receive, possess, purchase, sell, or donate any horse or other equine to be slaughtered for human consumption.




    Goodlatte (VA)



    #4



    (LATE) Requires the Secretary of Agriculture to consider the prohibition on the movement, showing, exhibition, or sale of sore horses, and prohibition on the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses to be slaughtered for human consumption when carrying out antemortem inspections as required by the Federal Meat Inspection Act.




    Goodlatte (VA)



    #5



    (LATE) Provides that the prohibitions in H.R. 503 would not apply with respect to slaughter in existing horse plants.




    Goodlatte (VA)



    #6



    (REVISED) (LATE) Requires the Secretary of Agriculture to make a determination, based on empirical evidence, that the prohibition on shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses to be slaughtered for human consumption is supported by a majority of horse owners before the prohibition can go into effect.




    Goodlatte (VA)



    #7



    (LATE) Replaces "horse or other equine" in H.R. 503 with "registered thoroughbred horse".




    Goodlatte (VA)



    #8



    (LATE) Provides that the Federal government will reimburse State and local governments for the costs incurred in caring for abandoned or unwanted horses.




    Goodlatte (VA)



    #9



    (LATE) Provides that the Secretary of Agriculture must certify that sufficient horse sanctuaries exist to care for unwanted horses before the law will take effect.




    King, Steve (IA)



    #1



    Provides that equines can be shipped, transported, moved, delivered, received, possessed, purchased, sold, or donated for slaughter for human consumption by Native Americans or people from other cultures that eat equine meat.




    U.S. House of Representatives
    Committee on Rules
    H-312 The Capitol
    Washington, DC 20515
    202-225-9191

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 2:33 AM

    Thanks Cathy,

    Had to scroll a bit but found the list, thanks!

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 2:33 AM

    Let's raise our glasses now Barbaromaniacs and toast Tim and Alex.

    There has been more information floating on here today then on any news station. We all owe the both of them a thank you for letting us keep up with the current news.

    Seriously...I can't find anything on TV that I haven't already heard here...

    THANK YOU TIM AND THANK YOU ALEX FOR PROVIDING THIS SITE FOR NEWS.

    BTW...782 posted already today...424 total yesterday...

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:35 AM

    I don't think the post I just did is the RESULT of the committee meeting. I think it's the status of the proposed amendments when the meeting started

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 2:37 AM

    I don't think the post I just did is the RESULT of the committee meeting. I think it's the status of the proposed amendments when the meeting started

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 2:37 AM

    Bonnie MacRaith I posted this back to you this afternoon.


    Bonnie MacRaith

    These are the 14 that seem to be No's or non-commital in California:
    Calvert 202-225-1986
    Cardoza 202-225-6131
    Costas 202-225-3341
    Doolittle 202-225-2511
    Herger 202-225-3076
    Honda 202-225-2631
    Lewis 202-225-5861
    McKeon 202-225-1956
    Nunes 202-225-2523
    Pombo 202-225-1947
    Radanovich 202-225-4540
    Rohrabacher 202-225-2415
    Royce 202-225-4111
    Thomas 202-225-2915

    I've emailed all and called half. Cardoza is the one that surprises me since we held a fund raiser for him at my ex-employers home in Rancho Santa Fe who breed and race horses. Shame on him.
    Thanks for any help.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 6, 2006 10:37 PM

    Posted by: Cathy Potter at September 7, 2006 2:38 AM

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    susan e. where did you find that at??(link please)

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 2:39 AM

    Ryan - I think we could all use a little help. I have my own prayers every time horses race - and yet I don't see myself as particularly religious. You are offering us the power that is with you, and the love that goes with it. I think most people look outside themselves for that. I also think anybody would be nuts to turn down your offer of comfort, love and strength!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 2:39 AM

    Thanks, Cathy, I think we're crossing our posts, missing each other.

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 2:40 AM

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    Susan E. couple of those are unsettling to me. I am going to see if I can get more information on that. geeezzz. thanks for posting that!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 2:40 AM

    MARY L

    www.rules.gov.com

    I think

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 2:42 AM

    MARY L

    www.rules.house.gov

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 2:42 AM

    Susan and Mary:

    Yes those amendments came from the agriculture committee members - totally undermine the whole point of the bill in the first place. The Rules Committee met at 5pm tonight to decide whether they would be included.

    Hoping and praying that they will present the ORIGINAL UNABRIDGED version to the House tomorrow. If they get the amendments in, it will negate the bill completely.

    Stay positive, stay strong. Believe in miracles. Believe in Barbaro. :)

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 2:50 AM

    Good night beautiful Barbaro......keep healing!!

    BELIEVE IN MIRACLES
    BELIEVE IN BARBARO

    Lindann

    Posted by: Lindann at September 7, 2006 2:55 AM

    www.rules.house.gov Recent Actions

    Under Rule to provide consideration, there is a resolution that lists some of the amendments. My understanding was that the rules committe decided at 500 pm which "bill" would go to the floor in the morning. Does this look like they have approved some of the amendments to the bill?

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 2:57 AM

    Mary S:

    No we won't know until tomorrow if they approved the amendments. Hopefully not. That was posted earlier this morning and it just outlined what their "agenda" was today and what it included, not necessarily what they have approved or not.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 3:03 AM

    They added the amendments for debate. Each amendment get 10 minutes of debate time.
    It means that these are the only amendments that can be discussed...nothing else can be added tomorrow.
    But we don't want any of these amendments to be approved. We need the original bill to be voted on.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:04 AM

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 01:15 AM

    excerpt following...

    '..MARY L OHIO....alot of the reps I talked to I mentioned being part of a great big group called Barbaromaniacs. Most seemed stunned, quiet. I even went as far to say because of Bobby's will to live and the slaughtering of horses that have that same will....will make me become a non-meat eater if this bill is rejected. Sorry not too elegant but the way I feel.'

    From Pat:

    Barbaro family...this is exactly why I became a vegetarian -- a non-meat eater -- 16 yrs. ago, at the age of 32. I made the choice once I recognized the horror experienced by all the innocent creatures we 'consume'.

    I don't want to divert the focus from the awesome, immediate, vital dialogue needed today, relating to the pending Anti-Horse Slaughter legislation.

    I will only suggest that pehaps we open our collective minds and hearts to evaluate the treatment of animals raised for OUR human consumption here in this country.

    The same type of slaughtershouses are employed for cows (beef), pigs, sheep, lambs, as well as the poultry factories (chickens, turkeys, etc.)

    Please know that I've called, written, prayed for the unaltered passage of the Horse Slaughter Bill.

    When you're all ready...I'll raise the overall slaughter issue of animals bred for consumption, to the next level here, within the forum of the Barbaronation, Barbaro Family.

    Thank each and every one of you for opening your hearts, for allowing yourselves to become vulnerable to this (these) issues afflicting our animal family members!!

    WE CAN, AND WILL, MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!!

    BELIEVE IN MIRACLES!
    BELIEVE IN BARBARO!

    Blessings and love,
    Pat

    Posted by: Pat at September 7, 2006 3:08 AM

    Sorry I stand corrected. My apologies. Shelley is right - those amendments listed are for debate, but not necessarily will go the whole way. (let's hope and pray they don't)

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 3:15 AM

    If you look at summary of amendments under recent actions, there are 9 amendments - under recent actions and rule to provide, the rules committee meeting at 500 evidently dropped #2 and #4, but the others stayed.

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 3:15 AM

    Sorry if this is a repeat but I haven't read all the posts tonight

    http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=35211

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:16 AM

    Thanks for that Shelley!! I now need to add some comments in those emails I have that will be going out tonight.


    Do we have confirmation that c-span will be covering this tomorrow?? I have not checked on that yet as I have been busy with last minute stuff on this bill (time zones are so nice!!). Wrote a couple of emails to the Morning news shows on CBS/ABC/NBC asking that they address the issue also. never hurts to try!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 3:16 AM

    Ryan

    I finally got something right!!! You know I have trouble understanding this political stuff. Just hand me a sign and send me to a rally!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:18 AM

    I just wathced a bunch of Barbro's videos. Barbaro was definately put in the world to make change. He was great at racing, but his legacy will live on. Thank you to Team Barbaro for realizing the special quaities this horse has. I feel I may break down in tears now but I want this horse to know how special he is. I love you Barbaro!!!!

    Ashley

    Posted by: Ashley at September 7, 2006 3:19 AM

    Mary

    C-SPAN starts coverage at 10AM for debate and will be followed by vote. This is the only issue on the agenda for tomorrow.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:20 AM

    I'll be praying very hard tonight that things go our way in the House tomorrow.

    Hope you had a good day Foggy. Feel better honey. We all love you.

    Good night sweet Barbaro. Get a good night's sleep baby boy. Thanks for inspiring me and lighting a fire under my you know what! What an amazing effect you've had on so many, many people! You make me proud to be a Barbaromaniac! Rest well sweetheart. Lots of hugs, kisses and nuzzlies to you. I love you Barbaro!

    God guide our lawmakers tomorrow to vote on the side of compassion and humanity and pass HR 503.

    There will be miracles...
    when you believe.

    Posted by: Sandie at September 7, 2006 3:20 AM

    Don't forget. It's supposed to be on Nightline which starts shortly.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:25 AM

    Good night, sweet Bobby. You know our mantra. Kisses to you.

    Good night, Fog. Heal, baby.

    Good night, Nation. Tomorrow is another day for battle.

    Good night, Alex, and thank you.

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 3:26 AM

    Is there anyway that we can stick to the facts and leave the personal political affliations and bashings of the opposite parties out of all this. It sure makes it hard to read through the comments and continue to respect opinions of posters when you see some of the stuff that has been typed here today. Especially when it is about people who are not even involved in the vote tomorrow. It is def a bipartisan effort to rag on the other team. LOL I definatly have appreciated learning how the reps are leaning and such, but the trash talking is getting me down.

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 7, 2006 3:27 AM

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    Evening, everyone!

    Posting late, as usual, and trying to get caught up reading everyone's posts for the day. It's so amazing to see a group of people come together the way so many of us have to help get HR503 passed.

    Just a couple of things--as someone who has worked in the veterinary industry most of my life, I'm ashamed of the position taken by the AVMA and AAEP. Bless Dr. Patricia Hogan for going against her professional organizations and speaking out against slaughter. Here are a few excerpts from a letter I wrote today to another in my profession who wants to stand behind these organizations and NOT support this bill:

    "As for the AQHA, AVMA, AAEP and other organizations that are opposed to this bill on the pretense that they are worried about what will be done with "unwanted" horses, if the slaughter ban is put into effect, these organizations will actually have to get off their butts and address the problem, so for them, it is much easier to continue on with this simple, cut-and-dried solution, forget about it another few years and not have to work for the welfare of horses. For the AVMA and AAEP whose creed is “Do No Harm” there is no excuse for taking this position.

    Morally, you do not attempt to prevent cruelty by inflicting cruelty; you do not try to curtail neglect and abuse by causing pain and suffering; and you do not control populations with brutality."

    Everyone who called and emailed in support of this bill today should be proud!

    Believe in Barbaro!

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at September 7, 2006 3:28 AM

    Well said Dawn.
    Thank you

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:30 AM

    To Ashley:>) Have you seen the video of Barbaro arriving for the Kentucky Derby?......he is just a magnificent creation of our Father. Just go to www.kentuckyderby.com and click on the entrants....then click on Barbaro. When the video screen comes up, click on videos and be prepared to be totally taken in by his beauty. There is no sound but I guarantee that you'll be making your own sounds when you see him. He looks into the camera about 3 times and he is just too beautiful for words.

    Believe me, once you see it, you'll watch it over and over. I don't get tired of watching him.

    Jeanette Cavalier

    Posted by: Jeanette C. at September 7, 2006 3:31 AM

    #######
    Shelley are you in eastern time zone? When is nightline on Shelley? At midnight eastern or earlier? Don't always get to the tv most days so kind of out of the loop.

    And you have been right more often than you think ;)

    Thanks!

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 3:33 AM

    Hi Barbaromaniacs!!!
    I just finished more e-mails & voice messages regarding HR 503
    Boy my rep (holding nose while I type this) is one non-listening, stubborn ________.

    I just sent the following e-mail:

    Please support HR 503 to end the national shame of horse slaughter in this country. I further urge you to vote against all amendments.

    I became aware of this issue due to the beautiful horse Barbaro who has touched so many throughout this country and the world. What Washington has not been able to accomplish, a spirited horse has graciously rallied Democrats, Independents, and Republicans in the effort to ban horse slaughter. Yes, I am a Barbaromaniac! And through my concern for Barbaro and his amazing determination for survival, I have met many people on a certain website by initially seeking out more updated information on Barbaro. I have since discovered so much more than my desired up-to-date Barbaro information. It was through this website and the blogging conversations with fellow Barbaromaniacs that I became aware of horse slaughter in the United States.

    The absolute cruel treatment of horses going to slaughter is unthinkable and inhumane. The fact that this country is doing the "dirty work" for foreign countries which want the horse meat, but will not allow slaughter houses on their home soil is absolute lunacy. To add salt to the open scar of shame, I discover that these slaughter houses enjoy quite a sweet deal when paying minimal taxes that are not comparable to their profits. If the French want horsemeat, let the French have horse blood run on their soil, not ours.

    I called your office today to inquire as to your stance on HR 503. Your aide declined to "talk for the Representative." I do request notification from your office on your stance in regard to this legislation. As many of my fellow Barbaromaniacs have stated, we do believe in representative government and accountability. The vote on HR 503 and then the Senate version will be very important to many as we look not only to 2006 mid-term elections, but as our country moves towards the 2008 elections.

    I thank you for your consideration.

    ********
    Love you Barbaro!!! Sorry I haven't talked to you today! I do get the sense that you understand!

    I'm proud to be a Barbaromaniac!!
    Rock on Carrots!!!

    Thanks Alex! This is one great adventure that would never have happened without you!
    jan


    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 3:34 AM

    Coming on now Eastern time ABC

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:34 AM

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    Nightline is on!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 3:36 AM

    Thank you for all your prayers and good wishes for Special
    God Bless Barbaro
    God Bless YOU

    Posted by: FOB at September 7, 2006 3:37 AM

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    Just found it on ABC .. thanks Shelley!

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 3:37 AM

    Good night Barbaro-

    You are our inspiration...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at September 7, 2006 3:38 AM

    Ryan

    Nightline is on here now. It will be the second segment. It's different everywhere so look for ABC

    Shelley

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:39 AM

    I found it - I have it. Thanks Shelley!

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 3:41 AM

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    Arrgggggggghh. I have to wait till Midnight to watch it here, Seinfield on first. so no letting the cat out of the bag, Or I just won't check here till after I see it. ha ha.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 3:42 AM

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    Dawn

    I LOVED YOUR LETTER Excerpt!!! You tell em girl!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 3:44 AM

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    H.R. 503 - To amend the Horse Protection Act to prohibit the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses and other equines to be slaughtered for human consumption, and for other purposes.

    Four words need to be taken out of this original, "and for other purposes"....because leaving them in would prohibit horses from being taken for medical care, or transported to different tracks for racing, or taking your horse anywhere. This is addressed in one of the amendments, BUT, the rest of the amendments?
    And by saying this would not prohibitions would not apply to the currently existing slaughterhouses? Replacing equine with Registered Thoroughbred? Good grief, that knocks the legs right out from under this Bill.

    #######
    Pat,
    I live in Kansas, I have seen the conditions you are talking about (feed lots) and I was appalled.
    But I've always been, which is why I am 100% vegetarian when the husband is away on business. Tough to get a meat and potatos Kansan to go vegetarian with you. Every other truck here has "Eat Beef" on the front license plate.

    Love to Family and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 3:47 AM

    Jeanette - I have just watched the Barbaro video. From the moment he comes into view, you can't take your eyes off him. What a beauty! He is stunning. The elegance, poise, the princely grace - and personality! Barbaro, I love you so much.

    Posted by: Elizabeth at September 7, 2006 3:47 AM

    Thank you God for Bobby's right and perfect healing, and for his complete recovery. Thank you God that miracle follows miracle, and wonders never cease.

    Magnificent Steed! Another day closer.

    The Light of God surrounds you
    The Love of God enfolds you
    The Power of God Protects you
    The Presence of God watches over you
    Wherever you are Bobby, God IS.

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 3:55 AM

    Just watched Nightline
    Barbaro WAS mentioned
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 3:55 AM

    Good nite Barbaro and Fog--keep on keepin' on guys.

    Nightline Excerpts
    Jonathan Miller telling it like it is. Told the story of Ferdinand. Can't imagine not keeping horses to the end. Yessss!

    Edwards--greedy, low-life scum (the horse killers).

    Mr. Livestock--can't imagine having to find a home for older horses.

    No middle ground here--Hello!

    65% of Americans oppose slaughter in US.

    Posted by: TerryL at September 7, 2006 3:57 AM

    Thank you God for the miracle of The Fog, and for his right and perfect healing. Guide, inspire and direct those responsible for his care, as Divine Order manifests in every situation concerning The Fog. Let each caregiver see him with love and compassion, and with thoughts only of The Fog's highest good, and belief in his healing. Divine Love fills every cell of his body with healing light, and all that does not serve him is now dissolved and dissipated in a right and perfect way. God Bless The Fog, and all who love him.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Fog


    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 3:57 AM

    I just watched nightline and it was very disturbing.
    I was also shocked and upset to hear them say that the Bush Administration opposes the ban on horse slaughter.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:57 AM

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    NIGHTLINE SPOILER - Do not read if your waiting to watch it :)


    WOW - I was not expecting graphic images like that. If it bothered me I wonder what that just did to the every day person who never even knew this practice existed??

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 3:58 AM

    Thank you Nightline for running a piece on the
    Bill to be voted on tomorrow. It will help bring an end to the senseless slaughter of our magnificant creatures.
    God Bless Barbaro
    God Bless YOU

    Posted by: FOB at September 7, 2006 3:58 AM

    OK...for those of you still up....

    NIGHTLINE CLOSED IT'S PROGRAM TONIGHT ON HR503

    BY SAYING THAT THE BUSH ADMINISTATION OPPOSES

    THE BAN ON HORSE SLAUGHTER

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:58 AM

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    Shelley - So was I, that's not very Texan of Georgie now is it.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 3:59 AM

    Hey Shannon...can you believe it!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:00 AM

    Shelley A & all Barbarmaniacs
    We've got ourselves even a bigger fight
    It is time to start writing those letters to
    1600 Pennsylvania Ave!!!!
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 4:00 AM

    All of the maniacs in Texas defended him!

    Wait until they hear tomorrow....

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:01 AM

    Thought the Nightline piece was balanced (giving each side equal time), but easy to see outrage by most Americans re the practice of horse slaughter.

    I believe if the bills clear Congress, the President will sign into law.

    Posted by: TerryL at September 7, 2006 4:01 AM

    I am slamming a email off to the Ole Bush Administratiion.. Shame on them!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 4:02 AM

    That really shocked me too Shelley, lets get it thru tomorrow then we can start in on the Senate and White House, I really dont think he would veto it. I also think 65% is a low number of Americans. I think it is that low, because simply put, they just dont know about it.

    I really had a hard time watching that segment, the gooseneck pulling in with the two YOUNG horses, then leaving empty just broke my heart. I come from a cattle ranching family and it shouldnt but cows are not the brightest, you dont get that attached like you do to your horse. I was surprised at the cowboy. Yes we have bought and sold horses too, but we always made sure they were going to good homes and were going to be well taken care of. If they died, it was at a slaughter house.

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 7, 2006 4:03 AM

    Pamela
    I must say..I was surprised that people thought "pro-life" = "animal rights" in politics....
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 4:03 AM

    The fool that said basically "if you eat meat, don't matter what it is", did the opposition no favors. The phones will be ringing in DC in the morning tomorrow, and email streams to congress jammed tonight.

    Posted by: TerryL at September 7, 2006 4:05 AM

    Big business...He'll veto...
    But more likely they will kill it in committee to avoid PR
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 4:05 AM

    The cattle lobby helped get him elected...I shouldn't be surprised...

    And they get paid bucks for every horse slaughtered...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:05 AM

    Jan, is that a joke?

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 7, 2006 4:05 AM

    I don't think it was all that balanced. They didn't show anything about the inhumane way that horses are transported to slaughter or mention stolen horses or the underhanded way it's all handled.

    It left you with the impression that the bolt killed them instantly and that it was a quick, painless death.

    I don't think it showed the real picture at all!!

    I'm more upset now than I was before and more worried about tomorrow!! These jerks really believe it's an okay ending to a horses life. And they come across as very sincere!!

    I'm sick....

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:06 AM

    It was disturbing - I had not seen those images before - but you know what? It just makes me wanna call and push this even more tomorrow morning. It was disgusting.

    But thank you to Nightline for showing what needed to be shown to those who were blind to this - and maybe they will call their congressman/woman and push them to support it without amendments tomorrow morning.

    I felt in a lot of ways they without saying it blatantly, support our cause and it'll help us tomorrow.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 4:06 AM

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    Did anyone catch that guys name who calls himself a horsemen and agrees that this is the way a horse should meet it's end? Some footage caught me off guard and I had to look away.

    Funny how these people, Like George W Bush do not tell the people where they stand on issues until AFTER they are securely in office.

    Pam, I hope tomorrow morning we are able to write down every single person who voted NO.

    I am so sick of these people, who claim to be for the people, then get elected by the people and then forget the people.

    Kudo's to Nightline for growing a pair and airing this.

    Stick a fork in me.. I'm done!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:07 AM

    Shelley A...did you notice the chink in their argument...they said these are old, broken down horses...but most of the slaughtered horses are young and fit...THE USDA REQUIRES IT...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:07 AM

    The horse winnied (sp, sorry) on que as well--good omen I hope. Program should have good numbers as well due to the lead stories voltility.

    Posted by: TerryL at September 7, 2006 4:08 AM

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    Thanks, Mary L! I couldn't sleep last night, composing that letter in my head. There was a lot more, but I didn't want to get carried away and post it all here!

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at September 7, 2006 4:09 AM

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    Thanks, Mary L! I couldn't sleep last night, composing that letter in my head. There was a lot more, but I didn't want to get carried away and post it all here!

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at September 7, 2006 4:10 AM

    I have to confess...I had to turn away...I couldn't watch...please, don't think I am a coward...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:10 AM

    Pamela,

    I noticed that and no one rebutted the fact that they are not all old infirmed horses.
    The more I think about it, I'm not happy with what they aired.

    But I do think that if it passes that Bush will sign. I don't think he would veto if it's passed in congress and senate. Even though he's against it, it would be to hot for him to veto it.

    Now I don't even think I can sleep!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:12 AM

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    TerryL - I laughed and said, "You tell em!!"

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:12 AM

    I just jumped on to say goodnite to our boys.
    First of all, we are not ALL maniacs in Texas.
    I was shocked to hear the Bush Administration opposes the ban on horse slaughter. I am a Texan who liked Bush before hearing this. But, please do not group all Texans in the group of stupid idiots that defend horse slaughter. Cattle is big business here and unfortunately we have idiots that believe if they stop slaughtering horses than eventually they will ban cattle for human consumption. I am just disgusted with Bush right now.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 4:13 AM

    After watching Nightline, I am thoroughly appalled and disgusted and sickened.

    I never expected to see those images.

    These politicians who are pro-bolt deserve to have their careers ended. Throw Stenholm in there, too.

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 7, 2006 4:14 AM

    Me too Shelley...I didn't realize you could see the slaughter through the darn fence of the place...they make it sound like these are huge modern plants...and they are NOT...

    They are hole in the wall outfits with poor horses standing in line outside to be slaughtered....The sound of that bolt gun and the thud...haunts me still...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:14 AM

    Just so everyone knows the Whitehouse comment lines are now closed, it seems strange to me that they are not open 24 hours a day does it seem strange to anyone else?

    Posted by: FOB at September 7, 2006 4:15 AM

    HORSES ARE NOT LIVESTOCK LIKE CATTLE AND PIGS....


    that made me so mad...I wanted the interviewer to hold his feet to the fire...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:16 AM

    Did you call the switchboard?

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:16 AM

    I think Jonathan Miller's point of not humane cane across well, the mayor was awesome, the horses they showed looked "too good" to slaughter, the fool did harm to the opposition, and Mr. Livestock (just throw 'em away after they get old) is not going to set well with many.
    Nightline gave equal time, but compassion, responsibility, and ethical treatment came through in spades.

    Posted by: TerryL at September 7, 2006 4:18 AM

    yes and the comment line and the switchboard said to call back tomorrow, I just think thats
    bizzarre

    Posted by: FOB at September 7, 2006 4:18 AM

    I turned away at times too - it was hard to see. Now I just oppose it more vehemently. Sometimes people need to be slammed over the head, and maybe that was the "wake up call" that some of our congressmen/women needed to see as well as their constituents who didn't know about it till now....

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 4:19 AM

    I guess a King doesn't have to answer his phone...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:20 AM

    OH GOOD LORD, IF THIS DOESN'T PASS, I'M GOING TO CRY & CRY!!! DID U ALL WATCH NIGHTLINE!!!??? I AM CHOCKED UP RIGHT NOW!!!! :>(

    PLEASE GOD PASS THIS HR-503 BILL!!

    LUV YA ALL AND THANK YOU SO MUCH ALEX FOR THIS SITE!!

    GOD BLESS YOU SHELLY AND EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THE EFFORTS FOR THIS BILL!!!!!!!!

    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 4:20 AM

    PAMMIE, R U STILL ONLINE? SHANNON WANTS TO CHAT FOR A BIT- IN THE BARBARO CHAT ROOM.

    SHELLY R U STILL UP??

    LUV YA,
    CHERYL

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 4:22 AM

    OK CHERYL...I am on it...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:23 AM

    Terry L

    Funny how we could watch the same show and see something entirely different. I didn't see the compassion or responsibility at all. They made it seem that people sold their horses for slaughter and should have that choice. Not one mention of the stolen horses or anything.
    I hope more people that watched saw it from your point. To me it would gather no support.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:23 AM

    They did say when they were talking to the paint horse breeder that they took her young horses...and the ones they showed going to slaughter looked very young and I did hear them say that the ones they want are the ones that are young and healthy.

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 4:24 AM

    Please don't take my comments the wrong way...


    If Bush is against it I'm surprised it has gotten this far. It may have to wait until a more favorable congress is installed. One that can override his veto if necessary.

    I was surprised when posters from Texas said that Bush would sign the bill. It got my hopes up. Now I fear it will never get that far.

    I hope I am wrong. I fear I am right. :(

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 7, 2006 4:27 AM

    All I can say about the Nightline segment. Oh MY GOSH.. This has to pass. I can not get the sound of that bolt gun out of my head.. I tried calling too. got the same message and can not access the comment section either for them.


    Got to send emails to the white house, someone. this is so not right what they are doing.. I knew tonight would be hard for sleeping but after seeing that Nightline piece. I am emotionally fired up and sad at the same time. We have to save those others horses before that happens to them. I still see that beautiful horse that was being trucked in. with the small marking on his head like our Bobby.

    Off to do something.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 4:27 AM

    just wanted to say I thought the dr wouldnt leave Barbaro?????he sure has-I wish Barbaro was in better hands-this makes me mad-they should be keeping a watch on not getting that hind hoof sore which could lead to the other hind foot foundering and it all could be prevented-that is what I do not understand-what will being cautious do?it will save his life!

    Posted by: sally from florida at September 7, 2006 4:29 AM

    ShellyA--well as someone else on the board sometimes says "I could be Wrong"--Dennis Miller.

    However, this is the closest the major networks tread toward showing and describing what really happens. Too much gruesome (sp, sorry late and I can't spell) and people will tune out for good. The best thesis are people like Dr. Hogan who have actually seen the process as it truly is, and gets the word out. JMHO.

    Posted by: TerryL at September 7, 2006 4:30 AM

    #### you go Mary,
    I will email and call the Whitehouse in the morning

    Posted by: kathy at September 7, 2006 4:30 AM

    Stenholm's email:

    http://www.ofwlaw.com/CM/Staff/CharlesStenholm.asp

    I'm SO tempted, but I'm too angry, I'll say something I'll probably regret.

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 7, 2006 4:31 AM

    If anyone wants to read the peice that was aired, here it is:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2396197&page=1

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 4:35 AM

    Texas gals...write and call the White House tomorrow expressing your disgust with Bush. Interesting to see how some of us went to chat right after a Texan posted. I am just as disgusted about this as anyone.
    Good nite Barbaro...thank you for bringing us all together to support this ban.
    Foggy...have a good nite sweet boy.
    I pray that the bill passes tomorrow.

    Posted by: Lynn in Austin, Texas at September 7, 2006 4:36 AM

    Sally in florida

    He is in the BEST hands at NBC. Dr R is not the only one that has been taking care of him. They have the BEST STAFF there