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    Barbaro Updates: 68

    updates are now here.

    Update 615: Saw Michael Matz this morning on my first set and Barbaro remained well through yesterday (thursday). I will add further updates in about an hour...very glad the site is back!
    updated friday 6:45am

    Update 614: Still no update for Barbaro today. I saw Michael Matz as I was having lunch in Prizzios, our local convenience store. He was on his way to see Barbaro, so we should be able to get an update later.

    Update 613: Just spoke to Barclay Tagg. Showing Up galloped a mile and a half today on the dirt track at Belmont, which is once around. He jogged back to the 7/8ths pole before the gallop. I asked how he is doing, Barclay: "Same old horse" ... (that's good). Two days to the Man o' War. Funny Cide jogged a turn of the main track and remains well.

    Update 612: A nice article from the Washington Post this morning: Stretch Drive for Saving Horses also includes a Barbaro reference:

    Horses helped build this country. And even today they enrich the lives of millions of Americans. Our immense response to the champion Thoroughbred Barbaro's injury -- the cards and emails and flowers are still pouring in -- demonstrate that the regal and loyal animal still holds a special place in our hearts.

    Update 611: Michael Matz visited Barbaro last evening and he said all was well. I saw him first set on the dirt track. It was a stunning sunrise this morning with a layer of mist coming up out of the ground. Just finished galloping Chappy for my second set and hoping for a nice uneventful morning.
    updated thursday 7:05am

    Update 610: Ray Paulick, editor-in-chief of the Bloodhorse makes end of year predictions: Locks which include this one we can all agree to:

    Equine surgeon Dean Richardson and the staff at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center will win the 2006 Eclipse Award of Merit. No one is more deserving than Richardson and his team at New Bolton. The work done in the hours and days following Barbaro's devastating injury in the Preakness was remarkable from a veterinary medicine standpoint. Their decision (and that of owners Roy and Gretchen Jackson) to provide frequent updates (including photographs and video) on Barbaro's recovery, despite the very real possibility that the colt could die, allowed millions of people who might have given up on horse racing because of the injury to stay connected with the sport.

    Another article from the Thoroughbred Times discusses the transparency of Barbaro's condition and its effect: Focus on fracture repair. The article begins:

    THE UNPRECEDENTED media coverage of Kentucky Derby (G1) winner Barbaro's injury, surgical repair, and recovery at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center has turned casual horse enthusiasts into quasi-medical interns. Countless numbers of people have downloaded the images of Barbaro's fractured leg and its repair, and they have followed the daily media updates through cast changes, implant removal and replacement, laminitis, and suspected osteomyelitis (bone infection).

    At each step of the way, ordinary people--carpenters, secretaries, truck drivers, and cooks--have been exposed to the methods used to repair equine fractures and the medical care necessary following such procedures. They have followed Barbaro's assisted recovery in New Bolton's surgical recovery tank, read about the titanium plate and screws in his injured limb, and seen pictures of him standing in a supportive sling.

    and ends:

    It is too early to be sure about Barbaro's legacy. As the Kentucky Derby winner continues to battle complications associated with repair of his right hind leg, it is premature to speculate how Barbaro will be viewed in years to come. Will he be thought of as a gifted athlete that excited and thrilled the world of horse racing? Will he be remembered for his ability in the breeding shed? Will he be forever linked to his struggle to recover from a devastating injury? One thing is certain so far: Barbaro may well be best remembered for providing the public with an education in the advances and possibilities available through veterinary medicine.

    Congratulations to everyone for all your hard work yesterday on the anti horse-slaughter bill. A quick reminder, the morning report will actually be a report from Michael's visit yesterday evening.

    Comments

    Good morning Bobby & everyone! There is no doubt in my mind that Dr. Richardson and NBC deserve the 2006 Eclipse Award of Merit, hands down! :)We can all never thank Dr. R enough for all that he has done for Bobby and countless other animals! The award should also be given to Tim Woolley for allowing his website to be the focal point of Barbaro and Alex for all of your hard work & dedication every day since May '06 keeping us all informed! Thank you to all! :))

    Bobby, I hope you had another good night,and I hope that your day ahead is even better than the last! :)

    Posted by: Ruth Ann at September 7, 2006 9:08 AM

    Good Morning Alex, Bobby and Team Barbaro

    Ruth Ann - I heartily agree with everything you said.

    Re: today's vote on the anti-slaughterhouse legislation - please (those of you who can monitor the vote and outcome) post the information here for the rest of us. I'll be at work and then will go right to my riding lesson. I'll try to check back during the day from work. I'm going to have a hard time concentrating on anything while waiting.

    Have a wonderful day everyone!

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 9:14 AM

    Good morning, Barbaro, Alex and all of Barbaro Nation!

    I hope you had a good time grazing with Peter yesterday, Barbaro. Did he catch you up on all the news at Fair Hill?

    I want to say how proud I am to count myself as a member of this group that is doing some very important work. I was not able to do much - emailed the one state rep who I thought was not on board and received the standard "Thank you for your input" reply - but I was cheering for all who were fighting the good fight in the battleground states. I will be watching for the results - I have faith we will win!!!

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at September 7, 2006 9:52 AM

    I agree that it is a sure bet that Dr. R. and the staff of New Bolton Center will be the recipients of the Eclipse Award of Merit. Their dedicated work with Barbaro and other large animals speaks for itself.

    Good morning sweet Barbaro - follow doctor's orders and grow ever stronger today.

    Although no one can predict accurately right now what Barbaro's place in history will be, it is certain that we are certainly in the presence of greatness. That is a sure bet too !

    Another tedious day of waiting for the outcome of all the work for HR503. Praying for a positive outcome. Thanks to all who gave their hearts and souls to this campaign. God bless you.

    Have a good day Mike and Foggy.

    rosemary

    Posted by: Rosemary at September 7, 2006 9:53 AM

    Marge in Maine
    #########
    I have been meaning to ask you,where in Maine
    are you located?
    We moved to Tampa,after 2 decades in Old Orchard
    Beach,and my husband is a born and raised "Dexter"Boy.
    ###
    Good morning Barbaro,you keep up the good work,
    surely you are one of the most loved horses,ever.

    Posted by: BrendaRyder at September 7, 2006 10:32 AM

    Finally, the major news outlets are picking up on HR503 - this is the first morning there have been stories on the front page at Google News. This one from the Washington Post caught my eye:

    #####
    Brenda - I live in Sidney, halfway btn. Augusta & Waterville. Not a native, tho' - from away ;-)

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at September 7, 2006 10:49 AM

    Good morning, Barbaro...it's nippy here in CT...NO, that doesn't mean you get to nip everybody, it means it's chilly. Hope you get to go outside today with one of your loyals fans! We've been working very hard for all your equine family...now all we can do is wait for news.
    I'm going to work (rather come there and help you with puter issues), but I wish you a day of love and blessings and healing!
    BARBARO - CHAMPION OF MY HEART
    Your pal Nancy in CT...with the 2 kitkats!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at September 7, 2006 11:00 AM

    GOOD MORNING, ALEX

    Thank you very much. You've made so much possible with this website. Look what went on here yesterday - many compassionate people working for the good...Let's hope for a good outcome today. We are forever grateful to you, Alex.

    I think Dr. Richardson has revolutionized the treatment of injured horses. The full extent is not even known yet. Many horses who were thought to be mortally wounded will now be saved and have full and happy lives, due to the Richardson-Barbaro Effect. He deserves all the recognition for what he's accomplished..

    Posted by: Christine at September 7, 2006 11:03 AM

    SORRY FOR TAKING SO MUCH SPACE, BUT THIS IS WELL WORTH THE READ....

    Stretch Drive for Saving Horses

    By Andrew Cohen
    Special to washingtonpost.com
    Thursday, September 7, 2006; 12:00 AM

    This do-nothing Congress this week can finally do something about the shameful business of horse slaughter in this country. It can tell the foreign-owned corporations that kill our horses to grace the tables of the French and the Japanese -- and pay little federal tax for the privilege of doing so -- that we no longer will tolerate or permit the indecent destruction of the living symbol of American heritage.

    The American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act, which comes to the floor of the House of Representatives on Thursday, bans the domestic slaughter of horses for human consumption. You read that right. There isn't already such a ban on the books. Last year, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, approximately 94,000 U.S. horses -- tens of thousands of them perfectly sound and fit -- were killed for food at three foreign-owned slaughterhouses (two are in Texas, one is in Illinois). The businesses get the horse from contractors who buy them dirt cheap at auction, inhumanely kill them through vivisection (the cutting into of a living animal), and then sell and ship the meat overseas to our horsemeat-eating friends, allies and trade partners.


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    You would think that this political dynamic -- Whose side are you on? All the pretty horses or the freeloading foreign killers? -- is precisely the sort of tug-at-the-heartstrings issue that would generate overwhelming support during an election year. And, indeed, the bill has broad bipartisan support. Rep. John Sweeney, a Republican from the Northern horse state of New York, has teamed with Rep. Ed Whitfield, a Republican from the Southern horse state of Kentucky, and together they have fought for many years to get the measure to this critical point. According to a recent poll, 68 percent of Americans do not support the slaughter of horses for meat.

    But, in spite of those overwhelming numbers, the anti-slaughter act also has some very powerful bipartisan enemies in Congress, on the House Agriculture Committee and elsewhere, who are trying to scare their colleagues off this legislation by arguing, among other whoppers, that the practice of slaughtering horses is akin to the practice of assisting in suicides of terminally-ill or painfully-alive humans. In their anti-matter world, the slaughterers are angels of mercy dutifully saving doomed horses from an otherwise worse fate-- neglect or starvation. It is an argument that is as grotesque and as foul as the practice the bill aims to stop.

    "This is not a bill that will improve the treatment of horses," said the lead opponent of the measure, Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), whose House Agriculture Committee in July tried to poison the pending legislation by attaching to it amendments that would kill both its letter and spirit. "Preventing the slaughter of horses," Rep. Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) added, "does nothing but increase the economic strain on families who can no longer afford to care for them, stretch already thin budgets at rescue facilities, and increase the chances that horses will suffer as they become unwanted or old."

    But nothing in the Slaughter Prevention Act prevents a horse owner from humanely euthanizing his or her old or sick horse. And so far nothing has prevented the slaughterers from mistreating the horses both before and during the killing process. Right now owners sell their unwanted horses for a few hundred dollars to agents for the slaughterhouses at grim auctions. Surely that is not, in the words of Rep. Goodlatte, "a legitimate industry" the legislation would "destroy" by "government fiat." It is a sick and miserable business that has no place in the life of a compassionate nation. It's no wonder that the mayor of Kaufman, Texas, which is home to one of the three slaughter plants, wants it closed for good.

    Opponents of the measure also make an "owners' right" argument. They say that preventing the slaughter of horses deprives owners of a right to dispose of property the way they see fit. But Congress does that all the time. People around the world eat dogs and cats. Can you imagine such an industry surviving in America? Can you imagine any right-minded person making an argument that a dog owner has a right to sell his animal for food and that the government cannot have say in stopping him from doing so? There are plenty of laws in this country that prevent humans from doing despicable things to animals. The only difference with this despicable practice is that there are oily lobbyists on hand to defend it.

    Horses helped build this country. And even today they enrich the lives of millions of Americans. Our immense response to the champion Thoroughbred Barbaro's injury -- the cards and emails and flowers are still pouring in -- demonstrate that the regal and loyal animal still holds a special place in our hearts. Now, finally, Congress can do something about that. Our legislators can perform an absolute good. They can side with the horses and not their killers. They can side with common decency in the treatment of animals or they can side with people who fire a metal rod into a horse's head and then hoist it up by its rear legs before cutting its throat. Congress has made so many bad choices this term. Or it has chosen to do nothing at all. This time it ought to be different.

    Andrew Cohen is the author of Bench Conference, a lawyer, and the part owner of two standardbred horses. He also is part of a group that saves horses from slaughter, retrains them, and then puts them up for adoption.

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at September 7, 2006 11:05 AM

    Good morning, all!

    Alex, first, thank you for your incredible support through this site. I am still sickened by what I saw on Nightline last night and my only source of strength today will be knowing that this is a place where I can be connected with my favorite horse and all the wonderful, talented people who have dedicated their time and energy to such an important cause.

    Bobby, hope you had ACN and the day ahead will be filled with tasty grass and visits from friends.

    Foggy, may the chemo make you strong and give you the will to overcome just like Bobby is doing.

    To all, we need another miracle today. WE CAN DO IT!!!

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 7, 2006 11:09 AM

    'morning, y'all

    'morning, Alex

    thanks for the update to get our day off on the right hoof!

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 7, 2006 11:21 AM

    Good Morning Alex and all...
    Alex I am very envious of your beautiful sunrise as down here in the Foothills, it has been rain, rain, and more rain! About five days so far!

    Good Morning Barbaro........stay healthy sweet horse and I'll check on you later.

    LITF praying for you too!

    What has happened to Special......anyone???

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 7, 2006 11:31 AM

    Hello! I just discovered this site yesterday. I'm very touched by all that happens here to help Barbaro and "his" staff at NBC, as well as the dedication in supporting HR 503. Thank you all!

    Since I see many poems shared here, I thought I'd post one I wrote a few days ago about Barbaro. I'm not the rhyming type, so I hope my short freeform verse will be ok :-)

    God is in his body,

    A pumping engine roaring.

    There in the race.

    There in the break down.

    There now, in healing.

    Legs, feet, heart.

    God is in his body,

    Thundering,

    now whispering

    Go, go, go, go--


    I'm crossing fingers and legs for the vote!

    Posted by: Joann at September 7, 2006 11:34 AM

    Alex: Thanks for the update.

    Anxiously awaiting the results today on HR 503. Had a lengthy conversation with a dear family friend, Reed Hillman, last night - running for LT Governor in Massachusetts. He is well aware of this bill and has made some phone calls for us. He wanted me to send some faxes to the NC folks so I did, early this a.m. I also shot out 3 emails to Sean Hannity regarding his impulsive remarks. He is entitled to his opinions, I am entitled to mine. A hypocrite he is for showing the world pictures his children drew for honoring the memory of Steve Irwin - an animal lover - yet putting down the horse slaughter bill - amazing.

    I cannot stop getting the gruesome pictures from that slaughter house video out of my head - how can any human being allow this to happen and how can those men in the slaughter houses do what they do? I'd like to shoot them in the head with a metal rod!

    Keeping my fingers crossed for today!

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 11:38 AM

    Hiya, Bobbey! Wishing you a glorious day filled with grazing time, sweet prince. Nikita is sleeping in on a cool but sunny morning. Got to head to work now. Hugs, pets, & "scratches" from your pals in CT - Robyn, Brent, & Nikita

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at September 7, 2006 11:45 AM

    Joann- I loved your poem!!!! Some of the best don't rhyme and are just simple but to the point like yours.

    Alex- Thanks for the 2 links to the articles. If Dr. R and NBC get an Eclipse then I feel better because Bobby will be part of that. Even if he doesn't get his own.

    Good job everyone with HR503. I have to leave to work out of town this morning (or I wouldn't be up at 4:30am PST) but I will check back tonight and hopefully see good news.

    Ashley

    Posted by: Ashley at September 7, 2006 11:57 AM

    morning Bobby. Keep pushing ahead, we are so proud of you. we love you. Dr. Richardson and staff should win Eclipse Award, so deserving and have changed many lives. Also ALEX FOR PRESIDENT.Thanks again Alex for all your concern and updates.

    Posted by: jane at September 7, 2006 11:59 AM

    Have a great day Barbaro!

    ###########
    Does anyone see a way that we can comment on the Fracture artcle that Alex posted from Thoroughbred Times? I want to respond to the comments at the end. People paid attention to B because he was GREAT race horse. Yes, he is still accomplishing wondeful things and always will, however unfortunately no one would have paid much attention if he had not won the Kentucky Derby in such spectacular fashion. I am getting a bit frustrated that people seem to be forgetting this.

    Posted by: Mary at September 7, 2006 12:01 PM

    firs
    t, beloved barabro, as i thank tim and alex for what they have created here,SUCH AN OPPPORTUNITY ,REDEMPTIVE AND NOBLE, i want to say that the reaosn i am here is that this horse , our bobby,
    has a legacy irrefutable=
    he is a champion
    look at his intelligence and courage and skills in handling the tragedy that befell him.
    .so valiantly.
    .sure, we learn about the best of equine medicine..but it is his heart and obvious talent and soul
    that has consumed me. and informed my daily life..period...and i suspect ,.from the posts and the wonderful folks i read about here ,
    they might agree wiht me.
    .he is a messenger ,a magnificent exampk
    le of perseverance under fire..and i dont seem to be the only one who recognizes that his voice is raised up high..and we are blessed to be alive to witness all the greatness that others rise to as a result of EVEN SEEING HIM ON TV ..RUN..\
    ike the wind.
    .in total grace and skill.

    so barbaro,
    we are getting it.together--.thank god..and i want to honor you.
    .let you know
    i hear you loud and clear
    ..i will raise holy hell if this bill does not pass..in your name and in the name of the voiceless who have undully suffered for years...
    dearest barbaro=
    have a beautiful grazing day..free of germs and pain and do not worry.
    .we are here..such glorious wonderuful folks..
    secondly,
    mary ohio, from the discussion board is fab..she made a list of the guys who are not on board .check out and call oaklahoma ,arkansa..the list goes on. that is what i am doing. BE SURE THAT YOU SUPPORT NO AMENDMENTS BUT THE ORIGINAL HR503.
    .THEY TRY TO CONFUSE US..WithTALK .
    .i spent all day on the phone yesterday and there are wonderufl poeple on the hill but also a lot of characterrs who are unbelievably crude, cruel and selfish..for a factlooked at their records inhuman roihgts and citizen care et all environemnt..awful records....i was alwaus polite but i wanted to scream get a life. you bums..how dare you sit in congress wiht such morals and lack of ethics..
    so we can vote em out.
    believe you me..
    lastly, thank you alex again
    for the super inclosures today--you shuld get all awards..this is the real thing..like paul revere..
    and i am thinkng of all the wonderful souls who trecked to the capital and i am so grateful.
    i notice that on google has added alot of organizations are tyring to hook up on barbaro when in deed they may not always be so altruistic..
    i dont know this for a fact but i do know not eveyrone has the same ethics..and as long as our bobby is in good hands..god bless NBC and kennett florists..WE BELIEVE..i am happy as can be..
    bless eveyrone today and give em hell..i am going into the second round of tel. calls at eight.
    the operators on the board in congress are so wonderful..i got several of them laughing real hard when i said i was after darth vaders..and that i was a barbaromaniac..that felt real good..to laugh when i felt like crying.

    in the light and in the circle, i believe..in miracles..we got one every day rihgt in fornt of our eyes. thank you lord..all these magnificent people..
    martita

    Posted by: martita goshen at September 7, 2006 12:01 PM

    Good morning to you all. Wonderful news about Dr.R. and the staff at NBC, they have worked hard.

    Sweet Barbaro, please continue to heal and stay strong, and keep your spirits high. God is on your side, and loves you.

    Thank you Alex for the updates and all you do.

    Call Mrs. Hart, State Rep for Penna. last night and she said she was going to support HR 503. We will see!

    Prayer for Lot in the Fog. Remember to keep the candles lite for both.

    Have a nice day and stay safe everyone!

    Gods Speed to our boy!

    Carol-Pittsburgh

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at September 7, 2006 12:02 PM

    Lats last night I saw the Eclipse Award mention for Dr. Richardson and staff. It is very deserving!

    Posted by: Mary at September 7, 2006 12:06 PM

    ###########

    Joanne,

    I'm glad you discovered this site and joined us. Thanks for the lovely poem.

    Deb G.
    Thankfully, I didn't watch the video. I know I would have gotten sick - literally. Some of the things I read were enough to make me not want to eat at all yesterday. I wonder too, as you do - who could work in those slaughterhouses? I know people need work, but there has to be a limit on what you do for $$$. And in our economy with the low unemployment rate, there are other jobs. available.

    Horse Hands Across America

    Janice - a proud Barbaromaniac

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 12:07 PM

    GOOD MORNING ALL
    GLAD TO HEAR BARBARO IS HAVING GOOD DAYS AND NIGHTS. KEEP HEALING BARBARO.
    BETTY

    Posted by: BETTY FORD at September 7, 2006 12:17 PM

    hi everyone

    Keep the candles lit for Bobby, Foggy and Mike

    Send your intentions that our Congress people have the strength to end horse slaughter.

    Thanks to Tim & Alex for the site and updates - the mass media has forgotten about Bobby and ignored Foggy.

    Posted by: steve at September 7, 2006 12:22 PM

    Praying, in your name Barbaro, that Congress and this Administration come to their senses and overwhelmingly pass HR503. It would be a good start back to a moral society instaed of the greed, corruption and immorality prevalent since the year 2000.

    Posted by: laura, nc at September 7, 2006 12:29 PM

    Good morning Barbaro and everyone in Barbaro Nation!

    Joann - Welcome! That was a beautiful poem and it really brought the picture to my mind. No need for rhyming when you can make that happen.

    Congrats to everyone on your hard work yesterday. I made several phone calls to NE reps, talked to some nice people, and sent some faxes. Hopefully it helped in some way.

    ShellyA, you ROCK! Thank you so much for keeping us informed from DC!

    And thanks to the multitudes here yesterday who kept us going and those who cheered us on. This COMMUNITY has made me so proud!

    And last but never least, THANK YOU ALEX AND TIM for allowing your website to keep us informed on Barbaro, the racing world and issues that we can be influential on (and even those we can't!). If there is an "Eclipse" award out there for Best Website, you deserve it, hands down!

    Have a great day everyone and let's keep our fingers crossed!

    Linda R

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at September 7, 2006 12:32 PM

    I agree with Martita, we should all raise "holy hell" if this bill does not pass overwhelmingly. Barbaro deserves as much, as do all the silent creatures so abused by the slaughtering fiasco. Makes one ask, what kind of society do we live in?

    Posted by: laura, nc at September 7, 2006 12:33 PM

    Good Morning Sunshine! Good report from MM from last night!

    NO DOUBT Dr. R and team will win the Eclipse!

    BIG DAY TODAY. Waiting on pins and needles!

    have a good day all! Thanks Alex and Tim for the site.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 7, 2006 12:37 PM

    Good Morning Team Barbaro,

    It was compelling to see everyone in action yesterday - going after their State representatives - and seeing democracy in action. I hope and pray the Bill passes today. Your work here will certainly help make the difference, as it appears it will be a close one.

    My guess is Barbaro's legacy will carry on in many respects. We're already seeing it here.

    Go Barbaro and Go Team Barbaro!!

    Posted by: Shelley in Toronto at September 7, 2006 12:37 PM

    I agree! White house is next. I fought the Veterans Administration, even going to the Whitehouse for 5 years and WON in regards to the Agent Orange related death of my father. My mother is set for life and I created a database in Massachusetts to assist other veterans and family members for federal benefits. I also help now in North Carolina. NOT GIVING UP IS THE BEST THING WE CAN DO. RATTLING THE RIGHT CAGES WILL EVENTUALLY STOP THIS SLAUGHTER.

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 12:41 PM

    Morning All,

    Thanks for the update Alex. Praising God the our Bobby did well last eve.

    Well today is the day! Can you guys feel the energy in the air! Since I don't get C-span at work, I will rely on the family here to keep me updated on what transpires.

    Much love to all!

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at September 7, 2006 12:42 PM

    Good Thursday morning to Barbaro, Horse of Forever...!
    Good Thursday sunrise to Fog, Horse of Fight and Feist...!

    To everyone working their tails off on HR503, per Maid M:
    This vote occurs on an eclipse (no kidding!) day. And whatever its outcome, you've already made a massive difference and started the ball rolling towards necessary change -- evidence of which is already available, with more to come during the next two weeks/two months/six months. She also reminds that true change occurs over time -- just like Barbaro growing hoof.

    ####
    D'Anne:
    There's a post last night from Key West Sally.

    ####
    Steve:
    Mass media 101: Positive news = Bo-ring...

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at September 7, 2006 12:42 PM

    #####
    Deb G.
    Thank you for your post! Inspiring....
    This is what i love about this site & the people I've met! I have met real fighters & heroes!
    Man the Carrots.....
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 12:45 PM

    Janice:

    I agree. Workers in the video seemed to be Mexican (I would even imagine illegal aliens). I was literally ill watching the video and wondering how could they do this. It took 3 - 4 shots on average to render a horse unconscious and some were NOT EVEN UNCONSCIOUS when they were hung. Sickening. The woker even missed the head and hit horses in the neck, side, etc...OK, I will stop the graphics as it is a horrible thing. I sent the video to ALL reps I could yesterday and even to my friend, Reed. He called me so quickly in absolute disgust. Yes, the video is hauting and gruesome, but it is a visual aid to show what is really going on and the memory of those horses in the video will HELP to stop what is going on.....

    Sadley, the reality of the video will help us in this cause. I actually cried watching it and I have a pretty tough constitution.

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 12:46 PM

    GOOD MORNING HANDSOME!!!! Hope you had a good night.
    You are on my mind 25/7 and I can't wait for the day they tell us you can go home. You have ACD and I will check on you later. LOVE YOU B!!!

    CONGRATS to everyone at NBC!!! You guys are the BEST!

    Karen - TN

    Posted by: Karen at September 7, 2006 12:48 PM

    Thank you Friar Tuck. I was asking yesterday and didn't get a reply and was worried something had happened to her. I'm so sorry for her owners...prayers to them.
    Rainbow Bridge for Special...we'll see her someday!

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 7, 2006 12:51 PM

    GOOD MORNING BOBBY HOPE YOU HAD ANOTHER GREAT NIGHT. BE GLAD WHEN DR. RIC IS BACK. GLAD TO HEAR MR. PETER TOOK YOU OUT TO GRAZE YESTERDAY. WISH THEY WOULD TAKE SOMEMORE PICTURES. REMEMBER EVERYONE LOVE YOU AND IS PRAYING FOR YOU EVERYDAY. HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY AND I WILL BE BACK THIS AFTERNOON.

    LOVE KATHY

    Posted by: KATHY - 8YRS at September 7, 2006 12:53 PM

    Jan: You are welcome. As a group here, we can all do this! The efforts of those like ShellyA are catamount to the slaughter bill. I wish I could be with her right now! Even if something goes wrong today, we CAN'T STOP here - I was prepared with a binder for the Whitehouse, it made front page headlines and news channels up in Massachusetts. I had to write, call and contact politicians and so many others. I think they actually got sick of me in Boston at the Federal Building. Anyway, never stopping for your cause speaks volumes. If enough folks get together on this, they have to listen.....unfortunately, the slaughter houses run deeper than we can imagine from a financial standpoint, thus, things can be difficult....

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 12:55 PM

    To Janice and All,

    Horse Hands Across America!
    That be me... Linda Lee
    It came to my mind, but I give God the credit for what I think that is GOOD.

    Who came up with this?
    Horse Hands Across America
    Janice
    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 6, 2006 08:57 PM

    Horse Hands Across America!
    Keep the Faith!

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 7, 2006 12:56 PM

    Kathy ...8 yrs....
    You probably are the youngest "maniac" looking in on Barbaro. I'm impressed with your post......you write well for your age. Stay aboard and God Bless!

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 7, 2006 12:57 PM

    Thank you God for Bobby's right and perfect healing, and for his complete recovery. Thank you God that miracle follows miracle, and wonders never cease.

    Magnificent Steed! Another day closer.

    The Light of God surrounds you
    The Love of God enfolds you
    The Power of God Protects you
    The Presence of God watches over you
    Wherever you are, God IS.

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 12:59 PM

    Sweet Beautiful Bobby, have another comfortable day. It would be such an honor for Dr. Dean and New Bolton to win the Eclipse.
    Foggy, think green pastures and blue skies while we pray your chemo is working. Shrink, tumors, shrink!

    ########
    D'anne
    Special passed away. Not sure of the details.
    Family, try to stay calm today. I wish I could follow my own advice, since I am at the point that if I see the "gentlewoman" from NC who is opposed to HR503 hogging the floor one more time, I'm gonna throw something!
    Love to Family and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles, Believe in Barbaro.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 12:59 PM

    Congratulations to Dr. Dean Richardson & NBC on the wonderful, and MUCH DESERVED award.

    Posted by: Randee at September 7, 2006 1:00 PM

    #####
    Anyone have Toby Keith connections? He has a large thoroughbred farm in Oklahoma. He may another celebrity that would be willing to help with the Anti Slaughter bill? Maybe he would be willing to write a song?

    Posted by: Jennie (Kentucky) at September 7, 2006 1:01 PM

    Mary S

    I have seen you post "The Light of God..." and it brings tears to my eyes every time I read it.
    Thanks for the uplift.

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 7, 2006 1:01 PM

    Please Lord, grant that the representatives votoing will pass the HR503 to prevent these atrociities...
    ACN,grazing with Peter,seeing Michael, hey Bobby
    nice day for you and today will be even better.
    Alex you should also receive an award for all you have done to keep us in the B Loop!
    NBC, Kennett Florist also can never be thanked enough for their efforts.
    BELIEVE IN BARBARO-THE LEGACY OF MIRACLES IS JUST
    BEGINNING!!
    The effect of Barbaro is immeasureable in venues that no one ever guessed would be impacted..from human,to canine,to legislative to world...you go B go B!!

    Posted by: ELLEN at September 7, 2006 1:02 PM

    Please Lord, grant that the representatives votoing will pass the HR503 to prevent these atrociities...
    ACN,grazing with Peter,seeing Michael, hey Bobby
    nice day for you and today will be even better.
    Alex you should also receive an award for all you have done to keep us in the B Loop!
    NBC, Kennett Florist also can never be thanked enough for their efforts.
    BELIEVE IN BARBARO-THE LEGACY OF MIRACLES IS JUST
    BEGINNING!!
    The effect of Barbaro is immeasureable in venues that no one ever guessed would be impacted..from human,to canine,to legislative to world...you go B go B!!

    Posted by: ELLEN at September 7, 2006 1:02 PM

    I just wrote to Ray Paulick, editor-in-chief of the Bloodhorse, commending this site and specifically ALEX and all his hard work. There must be an award for journalistic merit and promotion of the sport of horse racing.
    If there isn't one, someone needs to create it because this website would be the winner, hands down!!

    Thank you, Alex.
    Carol
    San Diego

    Posted by: Carol at September 7, 2006 1:06 PM

    Thank you God for the miracle of The Fog, and for his right and perfect healing. Guide, inspire and direct those responsible for his care, as Divine Order manifests in every situation concerning The Fog. Let each caregiver see him with love and compassion, and with thoughts only of The Fog's highest good, and belief in his healing. Divine Love fills every cell of his body with healing light, and all that does not serve him, is now dissolved and dissipated in a right and perfect way. God Bless The Fog, and all who love him.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Fog

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 1:07 PM

    My daughter and I watch the replay of the Kentucky Derby often.

    At the first turn there is a horse very far back, alone and away from the pack. Madison always says, "Mommy, look at that poor horse, he's all the way in the back". The first time she said this, I said to her, "At least he tried as hard as he could, he should be very proud". Now she repeats the same to me whenever we watch.

    To those who worked so tirelessly for HR503, no matter the outcome, you did everything possible. You tried and you should be very proud.

    Barbaro, you inspiration. This is your legacy in the making.

    Believe in Miracles
    Believe in Barbaro

    Posted by: lisa morin at September 7, 2006 1:11 PM

    Glad to hear Barbaro continues to do well. I had not been able to get on the internet for the last two days and was a little worried, but I knew if something unexpected had happened, I would see it in the news.

    The news is big here!

    Programs they are 1-2 yrs. behind.

    I contacted the office of Gingrey, Marshall, Bishop (he supports the bill), and Senator Chambliss.

    I explained to them how upsetting it is to hear people from the Middle East say that the Iraq War was because the Americans wanted the oil. This would show the Middle East people that again it is about money, another reason for them not to like the Americans.

    Everyone was pretty nice, except one was letting it go in one ear and out the other.

    Can't wait to see my phone bill! Yuks!

    I can't see, my eyes are tired and I am shaking.

    This is so upsetting it makes me cry. I refused to even go to the articles describing what is done to the horses. I will stop

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 1:11 PM

    Lord God, wrap HR 503 in Divine Love and Divine Order. Open the heart of every member of Congress, and let them clearly hear the voice of the horse, and feel the Magnificent Spirit of the horse. May they vote with their hearts, and their conscience for the highest good of all.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 1:12 PM

    ####
    D'Anne - I was very sorry to hear about Special. I noticed you have asked about her for several days. God bless her, her connections and you.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 1:16 PM

    #####
    Deb G.
    I have a real soft spot in my heart for Massachusetts and all of the good souls of that state. When my son was first diagnosed with autism, we moved from rural Ohio to Massachusetts sight unseen for better, more appropriate programming.
    The wonderful, caring people there addressed our son & family impact in amazing ways!
    I really regret our decision to move back to Ohio to spend time with my father-in-law after his stroke. Yes that time was special, but our son's future has suffered. Not much here to address his needs.
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 1:16 PM

    Good morning sweet Barbaro,
    What good news about your Doc and the staff at NBC, they deserve the Eclipse!!

    ACN is just what I wanted to hear. May your day be filled with beautiful sites and sounds. Enjoy your time grazing, it it so vital to your recovery that you spend time outside.

    LITF, you are always in my thoughts and prayers.

    I pray all goes right with the vote today.

    Posted by: Leigh in Austin, TX at September 7, 2006 1:20 PM


    #######
    Lisa Morin
    You mentioned watching the Kentucky Derby many times. I have saved quite a few of the videos on UTUBE but I can't find any with the replay...commentary and all. Would you give me direction as to where I can obtain and see the video?? Thanks!

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 7, 2006 1:24 PM

    ###### Mary S. , - from your lips to God's ear.
    Greed is very strong to fight, and so is ignorance. May God bless HR503 today.

    Barbaro , God has blessed and is blessing you, you great wonder of a horse. Keep healing, strong one.

    Alex , the update today was outstanding. So informative and interesting. You must have put in a lot of time and I appreciate it so much.
    Thank you , thank you.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 7, 2006 1:24 PM

    D'Anne
    Go to
    www.kentuckyderby.com
    The video starts playing automatically (right corner)
    I watch it all the time!
    "And it's Barbaro...The undefeated Barbaro...!"
    Enjoy!
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 1:28 PM

    Morning, Barbaro! Glad you had a good visit last night, you are such a lucky boy! Have a good day filled with eats, treats and a nip here and there!

    God bless Barbaro, make him strong and healthy.

    God bless Foggy, shrink those tumors.

    God please give those voting on HR 503 the wisdom, courage and conscience to do the right thing. Please let this injustice and cruelty in our nation stop, for it shows such a total disregard for your beautiful creation, the horse.

    Saying lots of prayers for justice, Barbaro and Foggy..

    Posted by: Sue W. at September 7, 2006 1:28 PM

    Please Lord, give our Representatives the Grace to see the light and to do the right thing: pass HR503 without the watering down amendments. Barbaro and all his wonderful relatives deserve this at the minimum. I am so proud to be amongst all the Barbaromaniacs.

    Posted by: laura, nc at September 7, 2006 1:29 PM

    Hey guys...

    It is so good to start the day with such positive news...Dr. Dean Richardson and NBC represent the very best in us...their dedication and determination have shown us just how wonderful they are and how lucky we are to have them looking after Barbaro...

    Today will hopefully be a day in which our tireless efforts are realized by the passage of HR 503. Should we not succeed, it is simply the beginning of more work, more focus, and more grit...We will never stop in the fight to end horse slaughter...we will never surrender to the lowest common denominator...we will do it for our horses, our families and for our country...
    they deserve nothing less than our finest efforts...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 1:30 PM

    I could hardly sleep last night thinking about HR503. We have done a great job providing a last minute push. No matter what, this is an issue that has been raised to the forefront. Our local news here in St. Louis covered this story all morning long. Even if this bill doesn't pass today, it will soon. We just have to keep fighting. Lets hope our fight can end today.

    Barbaro, keep up your fight. We love you!

    Posted by: Sheila at September 7, 2006 1:31 PM

    Thanks jan.........Music to my ears!!! Got goose bumps when you said "And it's Barbaro....The undefeated Barbaro...!"

    And Barbaro say's : hay it's me bArbaro...undefeeted champeen...jus wach me go!

    God bless the Maniacs!! What big hearts you have!

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 7, 2006 1:32 PM

    Well, the big day is finally here. C-SPAN will start coverage in about 30 minutes.
    Let's all say a group prayer.....all we can do now is wait.
    Thanks to everyone who worked tirelessy on this issue.

    Pam, Shannon and I will be watching and posting updates here for those of you who are unable to watch.
    LEt's get them!!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 1:32 PM

    GOOD MORING ALEX!

    I was moved by yesterday's posts, the outpouring of good work on behalf of the horses. Nothing could be more beautiful than this. I will be tuning into the hearings today when I can, and crossing fingers, toes, ears, knees and anything else I can find including my eyes as we await the vote. Poltics -- you only lose your power if you give it up. This group is so strong... thanks for being there for the ones who can't vote. If we don't win on the vote, we'll win another way... remembering one of the TX plants just got shut down due to environmental violations. Staying positive about the progress here! Hooray to all for all your good work. -- Cheers, Susan in Saratoga

    Re the White House not supporting HR 503, not a surprise. It's an industry, even if all the profits go overseas, without paying taxes, while it forks over lots of PAC $. It would not be the only corporate deal like that. What is amazing is some Republicans are not fond of the French, and the French are getting the last laugh here.

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 1:33 PM

    Good morning Team Barbaro! Good to hear all is well with our special guy. Continued hope that the chemo works for LITF. Here's hoping for a successful outcome to todays vote on HR503!

    I LOVE watching the replay of the Kentucky Derby. I have it saved on my favorites and watch it all the time....over and over.....I guess I'm obsessed! It really makes my day to watch it. I highly recommend everyone watch it daily! A sublime performance by BARBARO!!!

    Does anyone know if the Jacksons's press conference from earlier this week was taped and can be seen? I would love to see their testimony on behalf of all the horses.........

    Did we ever get a final tally on the $$$ for the Barbaro fund in honor of Dr. R? Maybe they're still counting the $$$$.

    Posted by: Anne at September 7, 2006 1:35 PM

    Socorro,

    Try not to pay attention to them. I know its hard, but their minds just can't fathom us actually caring for somebody other than ourselves. You have to have a memory that goes farther back than when Bush took the oath of office to understand what is going on, and I am afraid a lot of people just don't think back farther than that.

    Glad to see Barbaro is doing fine. Thanks, Alex for the update

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 1:36 PM

    Good Morning Bobby and Foggy, my prayers and thoughts will be with you today as I sit and watch the votes come in. Ignore us today...we are going to be very busy making sure you guys are protected.

    So, so sorry to hear about Special. I will pray for all involved.

    We did a great job yesterday and last night on HR 503...I believe we did make a difference.

    proud to be a Barbaromaniac...yeah!!!

    ALEX.....last night I raised a glass to toast you and Tim....for allowing all of us to be informed so well. This site is up to the minute with news thanks to updates and reading comments.

    C-Span has a link to watch the house meeting today.

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 1:38 PM

    ####
    D'Anne,

    Sorry to hear about "Special." I too noticed you asking about her and had hoped some good news would come out.

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 1:38 PM

    Alex: On a business trip in Buenos Aires (I saw the race track - situated so that those who cant afford to pay to get in can still watch the races). The greatest thing though is this website - Here I am so far away and yet I can still find out what it going on with Bobby and the legislation...Thanks again for all you do....Thanks also to all BarbaroManiacs who have worked so hard for the anti-slaughter bill.

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: lisa leach at September 7, 2006 1:41 PM

    Jan: Sorry to hear about your son's autism although I have a soft spot for this situation, which I do not feel is an actual illness (not sure if you feel this way). I have a friend with an autistic boy. He is beyond intelligent with so many things. Very advanced. I will say prayers for you. Massachusetts is a GREAT state, has its issues, but a good place to live and you just can't beat Maine, NH, VT for healthy, low crime living. I miss it and visit family frequently (military keeps me at Fort Bragg right now).....

    ShellyA: ANXIOUSLY AWAITING NEWS - look forward to the updates!

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 1:42 PM

    Guys, I did watch the "Nightline" piece last nite and commented on the discussion boards so will not go into details here. BUT, not sure if anyone else caught it during the broadcast when they went to break, but the message boards on the building directly behind where they were doing the live show, had a quick note, something to this effect: "Dr. Dean Richardson....Barbaro...etc. and his progress" so that is still so news-healthy. I had so many tears in my eyes from seeing the segment I could not get the whole effect, but thought that was such a bright spot to see.

    Cathy from North Carolina

    Posted by: Cathy at September 7, 2006 1:42 PM

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 01:33 PM>>>>

    And I say we use this fact in our correspondence!
    Giving the French a free ride with the sweet tax deal and yet the French won't allow the slaughterhouses in their country. America is doing France's dirty work.
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 1:43 PM

    #####
    Deb G.
    Making me smile...!
    Thanks!
    always say it isn't the autism that drives me wild....It's some of the "regular" people that we have to deal with...
    Very similar to what we all are experiencing here with HR 503......
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 1:47 PM

    Here is a website to listen. Can anyone listen to what is going on in the "House Committee of Agriculture?" Being here in the Middle East, it isn't allowing me to listen.

    http://agriculture.house.gov/hearings/audio.html

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 1:47 PM

    Good morning Barbaromaniac's! Good morning Barbaro! I pray you have a healing day today...grow hoof grow..Bobby you are such a special boy! Love you lots!

    Hoping for good news on HR503.

    Praying for LITF, for those tumors to shrink.

    Thanks Alex for everything!

    Congratulations Dr. R!!

    Posted by: Sue H at September 7, 2006 1:48 PM

    JOANN...glad to have you...and a welcome addition you are - LOVED your poem! Just curious...how did you find us here?

    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at September 7, 2006 1:48 PM

    OK, BARBARO NATION .......

    ARE WE READY TO RUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM-BLE TODAY!

    MAKE OUR MARK IN THOROUGHBRED HISTORY?

    OK, HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO ...

    EVER HEAR OF THAT SONG BY JOE COCKER FROM YEARS AGO CALLED "YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR HAT ON?"

    WELL, WE NEED TO CHANGE THOSE WORDS TODAY TO:

    "YOU MUST HAVE YOUR HAT ON!!!!"

    SO WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, STOP AND GET YOUR BARBARO HAT ON YOUR HEAD AND NOW YOU CAN SING ...

    "YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR HAT ON!!!!"

    IF YOU HAVE A MINUTE, GO TO HR503 RIGHT NOW AND LIGHT 1 CANDLE FOR VICTORY TODAY .... IF EVERYONE HERE JUST LIT 1 CANDLE, WE CAN LIGHT OUR WAY TO VICTORY!!!

    OK, READY, SET, GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 1:48 PM

    CSPAN.org has it live. Right now is their call in show, but the debate should start soon.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 1:55 PM

    is there someplace I can watch the hearings on the internet???

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 7, 2006 1:58 PM

    Good Morning, Barbaro Nation!

    I e-mailed the White House this morning asking how Mr. Bush can be pro-life if he does not support HR503???? Is pro-life only applicable to humans?????

    Anyway, will put the TV on shortly and start to pray and send energy like I've never done before (I'm waiting for cable people to arrive so I'm at their mercy and have to be home today).

    To Friar Tuck and Maid Marion - right on with the eclipse info...peak is around 2:50 EDT this afternoon. This is a strong transformative event,but there is another solar eclipse in 2 weeks that will augment today's lunar eclipse.

    Speaking of eclipses, if Dr. R and his team win the Eclipse award...can we throw him and NBC a HUGE party???? (maybe that way some of us locals could see B for a few minutes....I'll do nearly anything for 5 minutes with Barbaro...) Alex, can we rent out the Whip for an evening? We could have such a celebration...

    Alex and Tim, thank you again for this site. I'm overjoyed to see so many people coming here - for comfort, for building a family, for being informed and for being political activists.

    Mr. & Mrs. Jackson, thank you for just being the enlightened, compassionate people you are.

    Take care, everybody.

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at September 7, 2006 1:59 PM

    BARBARO, ONLY A FEW MINUTES LEFT BEFORE WE HEAR THE FATE OF MANY OF YOUR BUDDIES, YOU'VE DONE SO MUCH TO HELP US WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IT I BET. HOPEFULLY DR RICHARDSON HAS TOLD YOU HOW MUCH YOU AND HIS STAFF HAS HELPED BRING ATTENTION THE HR-503. YOUR NAME WAS MENTIONED ON NIGHTLIGHT LAST NIGHT. GLAD YOU ARE STILL FEELING WELL.

    BIG CONGRATS TO DR R-- HE DEFINITELY DESERVES IT FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK AND LOYALTY TO THE JACKSON'S AND BARBARO--AND ALL OF US OF COURSE!! I'M NERVOUS!!!! I WATCHED THAT HSUS VIDEO- VERY UGLY!!!- WORSE THAN NIGHTLINE EVEN.

    LOVE AND BIG PRAYERS THIS MORNING FOR BARBARO, EVERYONE AND ESPEICALLY HR-503, CHERYLG

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 1:59 PM

    Lynda:

    WOW!!!! THANK YOU!!!!

    Great Website!!!

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:01 PM

    Well, my friend, here we go....it's on!! LEt's say one last prayer together.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:02 PM

    OH MY GOD, IT'S ON!!!
    BIG PRAYERS,
    CHERYL

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:03 PM


    It is 10:01 EST...I am listening to Congress in session,on C-Span. I was able to get the live video by going to c span.com and clicking on the proper items.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 2:03 PM

    Good morning sweet Bobby.

    Sending you blessings and lots of love for another good day of healing and grace. Winning the derby in such fashion showed your lineage and training, winning this race shows us your courage and spirit. It's so amazing how you have inspired so many to achieve such mighty goals. You truly are a champion above others...a horse for the ages.

    Hr303 has brought so many people tog to fight for humane treatment of our beloved horses...watching Niteline's segment brought me to my knees. I will be lighting candles and praying for a good outcome.

    Thanks to everyone who has worked so hard for those who cant speak for themselves.

    I believe that Dr. R and NBC team deserve the Eclipse award of Merit also but they are already champions in my mind.

    hugs y'all

    Posted by: Mikki and Molly at September 7, 2006 2:04 PM

    Hi Barbaro family,

    Checking back in for an update - nothng yet - I can hardly sit still waiting.

    Linda Lee - Horse Hands Across America - do you mind if I use it in my postings? It just seems to describe what is going on here on TWR and I love it.

    Deb G. and everyone else who is committed to fight to the end to close these slaughterhouses - I'm with you on this - until they are closed forever or my body is no longer breathing - whichever comes first.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 2:04 PM

    Socorro YW

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:04 PM

    Doesn't it look like not many members are present??

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:04 PM

    The Rep (R) Poe is stating the party line for
    sticking to matters that are more important.

    Horses should not be the priority...border control should.

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:05 PM

    c-span
    It's the morning hot-air fest!!!!
    jan

    Posted by: jan at September 7, 2006 2:06 PM

    Basically, the speeches now being given are political statements that actually seem to be campaign speeches...

    The actual debate on the issue has not begun...no one has spoken on this matter...as yet

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:06 PM

    Where are our REPRESENTATIVES?

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:07 PM

    The rep from Houston (D) Green restated that other issues are more important and is now speaking about other matters...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:08 PM

    They are using the time allowed to distract the whole issue.

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:08 PM

    It seems that the only ones there are from Texas!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:09 PM

    Good morning everyone!

    It is a beautiful morning here in Atlanta. Our zoo just welcomed the birth of a baby Panda. A very rare event. I hope that is a good sign and that HR503 passes today!

    Congrats to Dr. R and team. Alex you and Tim should be included too for all of your work!

    Barbaro enjoy your day!
    LITF hope the chemo is helping!

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 2:10 PM

    So far just two from Texas.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:10 PM

    These speeches now are basically free campaign ads...if you cannot watch the proceedings...you are not missing anything...they are talking about border security, working families and the likes...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:10 PM

    Thank you Alex for the great update. Praise be to God!!

    Jus twanted to let you know that I spent the better part of yesterday writing reps and senators from our district. One of them is Rep. Barton. When I was in high school, I played tennis with Joe (Barton). He replied to my email this a.m. and acted like he didn;t kow who I was!!! Probably played no less than 100 times over several years. Anyway, from the tone of his email, I could tell he won;t be supporting 503. I just emailed him back and told him that he was caving into special interests (namely the American Veterinary Med. Assoc. and the slaughterhouses), and that I would remember this day when I go into the voting booth. What the hay! I don;t owe that guy squat, except for ANOTHER butt kicking on the tennis court.

    Posted by: Greg at September 7, 2006 2:11 PM

    Socorro is absolutely right...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:11 PM

    Hi Team barbaro!

    Thank goodness our boy had a good evening report!

    I read the article linked by Alex written by Andrew Cohen and I posted a comment on his Benchmark thanking him for his support and the media exposure on the slaughter issue. I gave him this website and wrote how we were rallying for the cause!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 2:11 PM

    THESE REPS ARE REALLY MAKING ME MAD!! I'M ABOUT TO SLAUGHTER THEM!!
    CHERYLG

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:13 PM

    And this guy from WA is supposed to be WITH us!!

    I think we're in trouble

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:13 PM

    We all need to stay united if this thing doesnt go through. We are getting big #'s now in several states. I'm sure that when women wanted to vote they didnt want that either, but we eventually won. So if we dont win this battle we need to stay organized and regroup to win this war. Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 7, 2006 2:13 PM

    Dermott (D)Washington...is saying this is to paraphrase a ridiculous issue...

    They are trying to stifle debate on the issue and make those who support it look trivial...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:13 PM

    Some of these people are just brutal!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 7, 2006 2:13 PM

    Thanks for the wonderful updates this morning, Alex. A much needed reminder of all the good in the world, and all the beauty of the natural world around us.

    I suspect this is true of far too many of us this morning: I slept fitfully, and awoke exhausted, with a knot in my stomach that won't go away, wondering what will transpire today in Congress.

    Now we're just waiting for the verdict, which is always the most difficult part of any trial because one can only be passive.

    Thinking ahead to the worst case scenarios and plotting broad-range strategies if we have to go again.

    MEANWHILE: Alex, who is Chappy, please? You mention him/her almost daily and I'm quite curious! Is this the horse that is campaigning to unseat you?

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 2:14 PM

    OMG...all these people making fun of this act are ones that are supposed to be WITH us!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:15 PM

    Barbaro, Hi Sweetie, hope you are doing well today. It is beautiful here in Ohio. Have a good day, enjoy the grazing, a little nipping and stay strong. Keep looking forward!

    LITF praying for you, too. Hope you continue on the path of recovery.

    To Alex: Bless you for the continued updates, you are priceless.

    Dr. Dean Richardson, what can I say,..you are so deserving of any award. My congrats to all up there.

    HR503...keep me posted on vote...We can do this, too!

    Posted by: Debra B. at September 7, 2006 2:15 PM

    We are underway...

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:15 PM

    Good morning Barbaro! ACN! ACD! Keep it up boy! Have a beautiful day and I'll catch up with you later on. Love & prayers


    Prayers that the anti-slaughter bill goes through. Congrats to everyone who worked so hard on this.

    Believe in miracles!
    Believe in Barbaro!


    How ya' doin' Fog? In our thoughts & prayers constantly. XXOO

    Posted by: Cheryl -- NY at September 7, 2006 2:16 PM

    We are underway...

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:16 PM

    Interestingly...Pallone(d) is also saying this is not a topic that is appropriate ....other issues are more important...Basically, the dems appear to be taking the republican argument of a few days ago and are turning it against them...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:16 PM

    I must be dumb as a rock - but why are the Democrats putting this all on the Republicans??? I thought this was a non-partisan deal? I'm confused!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 7, 2006 2:16 PM

    Here come the amendments...

    They are reading the bill...

    debate will total 120 minutes

    then bill will be considered for amendment

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:17 PM

    Geeee I thought it was JUST THE REPUBLICANS who hated this bill. HMMMMMMMM....

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:17 PM

    Shelley A-
    Thank you for stepping up to the plate. Your hard work is greatly appreciated.

    I would like to help defray some of your travel costs. Please email me lrlnyc2003@yahoo.com

    Posted by: lisa nyc at September 7, 2006 2:17 PM

    ####

    Sorry people for the double post...

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:17 PM

    They will read the bill as written without amendment...then the committee will report the amendments they have made to the bill...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:18 PM

    Sally,

    they're just trying to knock the republicans for not bringing up other issues like security. They are using this as a forum to say the republicans are wasting time

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:18 PM

    Good morning to all;

    The legacy of Barbaro will live on, it is not the fact that he is an amazing horse, nor a Kentucky Derby winner. But his legacy comes from his spirit and his will to live. He is a fighter and so are all of the family on this website. That will be the legacy. He brought together many good people who work hard for the welfare of all animals. I applaud all of you!

    Love this morning to Barbaro and LITF. Keep fighting and I'll keep praying.

    Light a candle for the anti horse slaughter bill. My rep is in support of horses.

    Alex, thank you for this website. Hope you get another goodie basket soon.

    NBC, Dr. R and all the docs and staff really deserve the Eclipse award...absolutely.

    Have a good day outside Sunshine. Hope the weather is good for you.

    Posted by: Louise in Ohio at September 7, 2006 2:18 PM

    The anti-slaughter issue has taught me I need to pay more attention to who I vote into Congress.

    These guys are creeps!

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 2:19 PM

    Let's keep our faith and hope!

    They are talking about the bill

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:20 PM

    Nancy: Thank you so much! (And thanks to the others that mentioned liking the poem. I'm still a little shy about sharing my poetry, but I thought this seemed like the place for that one.) I found you guys through researching polytracks yesterday. I do a lot of online activism and animal welfare issues are one main area of concern for me. After Barbaro's accident, I wanted to do what I can for racing safety, which I know little about. So, I was doing long overdue research on polytracks and found you all somehow through that. You guys are terrific and make me feel not so crazy about all the praying and good thoughts thinking I do for B. I'd been keeping up with his progess mainly through the NBC/UPENN vet site. Now I can keep up with him everyday here!

    Posted by: Joann at September 7, 2006 2:20 PM

    Dear God, please send strength to Foggy to handle the chemo, and wisdom to his people and all those helping him!

    God Bless and protect Foggy and Barbaro!

    And praying for HR503 to pass ~~~

    Posted by: Fran G. at September 7, 2006 2:20 PM

    Rep Diaz-Balart of Miami is speaking...

    he is saying that the house has passed such measures in the past...the slaughter houses petitioned the USDA to skirt the issue and continue to operate...

    This act will prevent the slaughter for human consumption and their transport for this purpose...

    He is urging support for the Bill

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:21 PM

    It's a shame they can't use their minute to show the video instead of talking

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:21 PM

    JoAnn

    Welcome to the family!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 2:21 PM

    SHELLY OR WHOEVER, WHAT STATES IS IT STILL LEGAL IN? THE ANTI SLAUGHTER PLANTS? DO YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN TEXAS & ILLINOIS?
    THANKS,
    CHERYL

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:22 PM

    Matsui(D) California is speaking for the bill...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:22 PM

    Lisa NYC - I second that. Shelly A, please, please email me at gr8loon@yahoo.com

    Linda R

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at September 7, 2006 2:22 PM

    Welcome Joann!

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 2:23 PM

    ####

    SALLY IN KEY WEST....C-Span has it on their site....click on the live part...

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:23 PM

    What the hell is Matsui talking about????????

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 2:24 PM

    Pam

    Don't they have to use this time for our bill now that it has been introduced? Why are they mixing other stuff in there

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:25 PM

    Typical democrat crap. They pretended to be for this bill, the republican leadership made this bill happen, and the democrats are using it against them.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:25 PM

    ####

    Guys, keep in mind that the votes really are already set...the speeches are made to let their constituants know where they stand on a miriade of issues and to get free campaign air-time...

    These reps already know how they will vote so, I am sorry that you have to listen to this dribble instead of real debate on the issue...
    But don't let it get you down...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:25 PM

    Good Morning Bobby....
    We're so glad you had another good day yesterday. Bobby, I will check in with you later as we're attending to some important issues that involve your brothers and sisters. God Bless you sweet boy. You're in our thoughts and prayers.


    Posted by: Debra, WI at September 7, 2006 2:26 PM

    WHO IS THIS MATSUI CHICK? CAN SHE TAKE UP ALL THIS TIME APPROPRIATED FOR HR503 BY DIVERTING IT TO OTHER SUBJECTS? CAN SHE DO THIS????

    I AM SPITTING BULLETS RIGHT NOW BETWEEN HER AND ALL THOSE A$$HOLES THAT CAME BEFORE HER!!

    I AM SPITTING NAILS!!!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:26 PM

    Even Matsui who spoke so beautifully about the slaughter issue is now making fun of bringing this to the floor. The way they say "horses" like it's a joke

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:26 PM

    ####

    CHERYL G INDY....you got them...2 in Texas and 1 in Illinois

    What is happening to those who support the bill....they are making light of this!

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:26 PM

    Great updates today. We love you Big B. and mucho congrats to your Best Buddy.

    Thank you, Alex.

    Foggy - keep fighting fella. We are with you every minute of the day and night.

    Special - you are surely an angel now. We'll see you again someday. XXXOOO

    ######
    Jen - YES!!! We will regroup!

    Posted by: Margie at September 7, 2006 2:26 PM

    How do we know that they wont kill the vote completely? I mean, there is barely anyone there now!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:27 PM

    THAT'S TRUE PAMELA, I MAY NOT EVEN LISTEN TO THIS GARBAGE!!
    CHERYL G

    THEY AREN'T GOING TO TALK FOR THE ENTIRE HOUR AND 20 MINUTES ARE THEY?

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:27 PM

    They are, "fillibuster"

    That means wasting the time allowed and not supporting the bill.

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:28 PM

    Welcome politics folks. This is how it is. We are barely going to hear anything about 503.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:29 PM

    Lynda

    You are right. They are using this against the republicans making them seem irresponsbile for bringing this to the floor

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:29 PM

    Hi all, Just checking in to see what's happening.
    From skimming through the entries it seems they are Talking about Everything EXCEPT the HR 503.

    Figures, your tax dollars in action!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 7, 2006 2:29 PM

    To Everyone,

    I'm anxiously waiting for the results of H.R. 503. I hope and pray with all my heart that it passes, with no amendments.

    You all should be so proud.

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at September 7, 2006 2:29 PM

    They are reading the bill...

    debate will total 120 minutes

    then bill will be considered for amendment


    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 02:17 PM

    PAMMIE ... I THINK I HEARD THAT THE DEBATE WILL LAST ONE HOUR AND 20 MINUTES, NOT 120 MINUTES WHICH WOULD BE 2 HOURS. HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT AND I'M WRONG .... I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE A LONGER DEBATE BUT THIS MATSUI CHICK IS STRAINING MY LAST NERVE RIGHT NOW!!! IF SHE TALKS FOR THE FULL TIME, WE HAVE BEEN 'HAD!'

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:29 PM

    Hi all, Just checking in to see what's happening.
    From skimming through the entries it seems they are Talking about Everything EXCEPT the HR 503.

    Figures, your tax dollars in action!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 7, 2006 2:30 PM

    Write to everyone and informed them election is coming up and we are spreading the word not to support anyone in office.

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:30 PM

    ##########

    Pammie,

    Thanks for interpreting the event.

    Horse Hands Across American

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 2:30 PM

    Thank you to those who can see or hear what's going on in the meetings for letting us know. A lot of us don't know what's happening so please keep telling us. THANK YOU

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 7, 2006 2:31 PM

    I would appreciate having a sysnopsis of any comments made by my Rep. Mike Honda.

    Thank you.


    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at September 7, 2006 2:31 PM

    Sorry for the double post. Don't know what happened.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 7, 2006 2:31 PM

    GO SWEENEY!!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:31 PM

    ######

    Lynda...the people bending the argument to make into something else were probably voting against it anyway...they can't come out and say I AM FOR HORSE SLAUGHTER....so they say they are FOR more IMPORTANT issues

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:32 PM

    R- JOHN SWEENEY (NY) IS GIVING EXCELLENT SPEECH ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE HORSE BILL.
    CHERYLG

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:33 PM

    Sweeney (D) New York...is speaking against the amendments that are proposed (without telling us what they are) he is stating his position for the bill only

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:34 PM

    Our only true friend "Rep. Sweeny!"

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:34 PM

    thank you Sweeney!!!! Wonderful!!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:34 PM

    ALREADY SEE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING
    ARTICLE in WASHINGTON POST SAYS IT ALL !!!!!!

    VERY LATE LAST EVENING....I TOOK THE BULL BY THE HORNS and EMAILED THE NON SUPPORTIVE MEMBERS FROM MICHIGAN STATE and SEVERAL OTHERS and BELIEVE ME THAT WAS NOT AN EASY TASK GIVEN MY CIRCUMSTANCES.....BEING CANADIAN
    THIS ISSUE TRANCENDS ALL BOUNDARIES.....IT'S AN ISSUE ABOUT THE MORALE FIBRE OF ALL HUMANITY!!!!!

    I'M SO VERY PROUD TO CALL YOU ALL MY FRIENDS....

    CHAMP....you should be soo proud of all your people today .....they have worked so hard to protect all your friends...we are not forgetting YOU Sweet Boy ...YOU are the INSPIRATION for ALL GOOD THINGS...REST and HEAL....congrats to Dr R for US....BE GOOD !!!!

    THANK YOU LORD FOR ALL BLESSINGS TODAY
    CONTINUE TO HEAL BOBBY...MIKE and THE FOG
    MAY ALL KNOW YOUR POWER TODAY !!!!!!

    WE BELIEVE !!!!!!

    I LOVE YOU ALL DEAR FRIENDS....BLESSINGS Maribel

    Posted by: Maribel at September 7, 2006 2:35 PM

    Did you hear Sweeney say that most people there were for the bill? Even though they are using their time to talk about other things

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:35 PM

    When you see everyone saying the same thing...(dems)...this is the strategy that has been adopted by the party...They are using talking points sent out by party leaders...that is why they all say the same thing...More important issues are at hand..But just remember...they already know how they are going to vote...

    Lofgren (D) is for the bill

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:36 PM

    Shelley yea. This is all about politics though. They are using this time to run for office unfortunately.

    Pam, the lady from CA said she is voting for it, but she made fun of it. "The Horsey Bill" this is sick.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:37 PM

    The DEVIL himself is speaking "Goodlatte!"

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:37 PM

    GOODLATTE IS A BADA$$

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:38 PM

    Did you hear Goodlatte call it humane uthanasia?

    I don't know if I can watch this...I want to jump through my TV. He's calling the horses dangerous that go to slaughter

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:38 PM

    Bobby, I hope you are as comfortable today as you were yesterday. I am thinking maybe you get to graze outside today too, probably. You are getting stronger Big Ole Boy and I think you are truly getting well. This is only the best news I can think of. If now, you would turn some of your positive energy flow to your brethern Fog, he needs some real energy right now. We all are all pulling for him and praying too. He may need a little push from someone famous-like you- whose been sick and pulling thru. Give him a little advice on how you can stay so positive in your time of adversity. You are amazingly strong and diligent. You are truly a super- horse my friend. I love you so very much, Barbaro, I am so happy and hope you are feeling frisky yourself. :)

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at September 7, 2006 2:38 PM

    WOW....rep Goodlatte (R) VA is up...we have heard a lot about them...he is asking what happens to the 90.000 horses that will live...he says this horses are behaviorly unacceptable...dangerous...to sell them is irresponsible...for certain horses this is acceptable...He apparently thinks he is protecting the public from horses.

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:38 PM

    Oh gosh, this is the guy with all the amendments. He is lying his head off about this.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:39 PM

    YES SHELLY, I'M GOING TO PUKE, DO THEY DO ANY RESEARCH!!???
    CHERYL

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:39 PM

    I want to put my fist through the computer screen and flatten Goodlatte.

    WE WILL NOT FORGET THIS.

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 7, 2006 2:39 PM

    Goodlatte calls the legislation deceptive...it will not lead to horses not dying...says methods used in plants are human euthanasia..

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:40 PM

    I don't get it. Aren't there a lot of thoroughbred farms in Virginia? Why is this clown Goodlatte so against the bill? Who's lining his pockets to make him so against it?

    Posted by: Amy L. at September 7, 2006 2:40 PM

    They dont euthanize the horses!!!! What an idiot!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:40 PM

    PLUS GOODLATTE IS A BADLIAR!! HE IS TWISTING THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS TO SUIT HIS BADA$$ AGENDA ...

    I WILL NEVER, EVER DRINK ANOTHER LATTE ... GOOD OR NOT!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:40 PM

    Let's start getting these guys and women (not ladies) out of office.

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:40 PM

    How can he stand there and lie like that????

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:40 PM

    ######

    ShelleyA

    I am glad I'm not watching it, my tummy is in knots just reading the posts in between trying to work. Good luck

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 7, 2006 2:41 PM

    Rahall (D) is pointing out the amendments to the bill were filed late...a signal is being sent to torpedo this legislation thru amendments...

    He supports the bill

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:41 PM

    ShelleyA, he can stand there and lie like that because he thinks nobody will ever call him on it. Plus, he probably figures his seat is safe and his constituents will never know what he did on this bill, so he can say whatever he wants.

    Posted by: Amy L. at September 7, 2006 2:42 PM

    Yea, why is Goodelatte SO against it?????

    Anyone from Virginia here?

    Can you investigate who his politcal money contributors are?

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 2:42 PM

    OH GEEZ, THEY ARE GOING TO "CHAT" FOR THE ENTIRE ONE HOUR AND 20 MIN!!!

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:42 PM


    Second that Socorro

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 7, 2006 2:42 PM

    Proud to have been raised a West Virginian! Go Rahall!!!!

    Posted by: Laura at September 7, 2006 2:43 PM

    I LIKE this Rahall guy!!!!

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at September 7, 2006 2:43 PM

    Great going Rep. Rahal!

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:43 PM

    Whitfield is GREAT. He's the one that was there Tuesday that I met

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:43 PM

    YOU GO WEST VIRGINIA, TELL THEM LIKE IT IS!!!

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:43 PM

    Thanks to all of you who are posting updates on the anti-slaughter bill. Am at work and cannot follow it other than on this website since you give great reports and impressions of what is going on...

    Posted by: Anita at September 7, 2006 2:44 PM

    HOLD YOUR HORSES (re Goodlate) I just had to turn off the sound to keep from crawling through the cable lines after him. He should be put in a shopping cart and wheeled off the floor of the house with a price tag on his... Meanwhile, the bill is going to pass. Breathe, everyone, breathe. -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 2:46 PM

    With all of your postings, it reminds me of Mike C.'s "The Call!"

    This is great! Don't like Goodlatte though.

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at September 7, 2006 2:46 PM

    LAURA, I LIVED THERE TOO, ONLY FOR 3 YEARS, BUT I ACTUALLY LOVED IT- WEST VA!!

    THIS GUY IS A R- FROM KY, RIGHT?

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:46 PM

    Is this streaming online, and if so may I have the URL.

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 7, 2006 2:47 PM

    For those who do not have Cspan on TV...please post the link to watch the broadcast online

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:47 PM

    All Right Whitfield!!!!! He is really doing great!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:47 PM

    Damn!
    #####
    My work's fire wall blocks "live streaming video" so I can't get the feeds from cspan.com!

    Grrrrrr

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at September 7, 2006 2:48 PM

    RAHALL ROCKS!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:49 PM

    I want to shake Nick Rahall's hand

    Hey guys...not fair...all those empty seats and us having to sit here and watch

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:49 PM

    OH man BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH from Matsui. Run for office later dear!~!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:49 PM

    WHITFIELD'S A WINNER!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:49 PM

    Remember to get Rep. Matsuri out of office!

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:49 PM

    RE FEDERAL JUDGES: Whitfield's speech. The TX law that was struck down. Now we see why it is so important to vote someone into the White House who will appoint fair judges, not load it up with corporate hacks. -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 2:49 PM

    I don't get to listen in, so I guess I'll have to wait until this evening- swamped today.

    the excuse that we don't stop this because we don't know what to do with unwanted horses is, in my opinion, akin to saying, "well, I'm bleeding, but haven't looked for the bandaids, so I'll just keep bleeding."

    asinine.

    my fingers, toes, and eyes are all crossed.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 7, 2006 2:50 PM

    CSPAN

    http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at September 7, 2006 2:50 PM

    Mary S.
    Thank you for your consistent prayers each and every day for the Boys! Even when I am so busy to post something I can always count on your positive and uplifting posts!

    Thank you Heavenly Father for the miracles you are besotting each day on Barbaro. And thank you for touching and healing the Fog.

    Posted by: Judy Walker WA at September 7, 2006 2:50 PM

    They are voting! PRAY HARD!!!

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:50 PM

    Pam
    Is this voting to debate the issue or pass the bill????

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:50 PM

    what are they doing now? Voting to Vote????

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:51 PM

    WHAT ARE THEY VOTING ON NOW? IT SAYS H RESOLUTION 981 ...

    THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US, RIGHT?

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:51 PM

    PAMELA...don't have the link....I was there earlier....just go to C-Span and click on live on the house meeting..it will take you there

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:51 PM

    Thanks Alex for posting interesting and relevant articles for us.

    Posted by: Beverly at September 7, 2006 2:51 PM

    It can't be the actual vote...no one is there

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:51 PM


    10:50 AM....taking yay or nay vote "on resolution"...will take 15 minutes. I am not sure if this vote is IT or not...will keep you posted.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 2:52 PM

    Pam

    What is happening???

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:52 PM

    http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

    This is the link to Live C-Span. -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 2:53 PM


    ...so far,more (R)s than (D)s supporting the bill....what's up with that?

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 2:54 PM

    I'm not sure but I think this vote is whether or not to bring it to the floor for a full vote.

    Am I right, Pam?

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:54 PM

    Basically they are voting on the RESOLUTION (not the actual bill) to amend the act..

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:54 PM

    THIS HAS TO BE IT, THEIR HOUR AND 20 MIN IS RUNNING OUT??

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:54 PM

    I think this is the vote to agree with the resolution without the amendments. I think.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:55 PM

    IT IS THE VOTE

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:55 PM

    WHAT'S A PROCEDURAL VOTE ON HR 503?????

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:55 PM

    I can't see to good, but it looks like many rather not vote.

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 2:56 PM

    The resolution also includes the rules for debate and the structure for discussion and no amendment shall be considered except those presented by the committee...etc..

    It is really stating how the proceedures will go

    then without intervening motions

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:56 PM

    PAMMIE, SIGN ONTO YAHOO MSGR-SHANNON IS ON TOO.

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 2:56 PM

    Just finished watching - am so nervous, my stomach is in knots!

    Bobby, hope you had a good night - I take no news as good news.

    Alex, thanks again for all of this! You're the BEST!

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 2:57 PM

    I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON NOW? IF THEY ARE VOTING WHERE IS EVERYONE? THERE IS NO ONE IN THE CHAMBER THAT I SEE EXCEPT FOR FEW PEOPLE.

    HELP, PAMELA!! WHAT'S GOING ON???????

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 2:57 PM

    Whatever it is they are voting on, there were only 8 votes posted a few mins ago. Sheez. -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 2:57 PM

    This IS NOT A VOTE ON THE BILL

    The RESOLUTION refers to how the house will debate
    the bill and that it will be accepted for debate with the amendments given by the committee only
    (not new ones from the floor)

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 2:58 PM

    Very nervous. praying, praying. So glad we have this site Alex where we can all be together today.

    Posted by: Skyler at September 7, 2006 2:58 PM

    Thanks Pamela for clearing that up.

    I understood the vote to be to vote on the rule

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 2:58 PM

    They are thinking about the first vote now. I pray... Please God in heaven, affect the minds and hearts of the undecided. There are those even now, in the room , offering undercover deals for votes their way , as always. Please God, help the horses . They have no voices of their own- please help them from these merchants of death.
    Impress on minds the truth , and lead them to vote for the right. Guide them through the maze of special interests and money and greed and for once, let these Representatives vote with a true conscience. In Jesus' name I pray. amen

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 7, 2006 2:58 PM

    I think everyone there is there because they want the bill brought to the floor for a vote. Even if they are AGAINST the bill....they want it voted on.
    I believe if this resolution passes, then they address each amendment before the vote on the bill

    Can anyone tell me if I'm right

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 2:58 PM

    Linnie, Its what Pam just said in her last post.


    The resolution also includes the rules for debate and the structure for discussion and no amendment shall be considered except those presented by the committee...etc..

    It is really stating how the proceedures will go

    then without intervening motions

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 02:56 PM

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 2:59 PM

    Am I losing my wits or are they NOW voting on this bill with that small amount of discussion?

    Sorry, but I'm trying to work while I'm watching, and my hands are just shaking with rage.

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 7, 2006 2:59 PM

    PLEASE LET ME MAKE ONE SUGGESTION ...

    LET'S KEEP POLITICS OUT OF THIS ... MANY OF YOU WHO CAME DOWN ON ME THE OTHER NIGHT FOR CREATING A POLITICAL DUSTUP ARE DOING THE VERY SAME THING THIS MORNING ...

    SO, PLEASE, PEOPLE ... LET'S PUT AN END TO THIS AND CONCENTRATE ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT REGARDLESS OF WHO HELPS US.

    I HAVE SEEN MANY REPS TODAY UP AT THE PODIUM IN SUPPORT OF HR503 AND I APPLAUD THEM AND RESPECT THEM ... LET'S ALL THE DO THE SAME FOR BOTH SIDES NOW, OK?

    THANKS ...

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:00 PM

    I am watching on the net. I can see too good, but it looks like there are a lot of YEAs

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:00 PM

    WHEW....this stuff really clogs your brain cells...


    DID ANYONE POST THE LINK FOR WEBCAST OF CSPAN?

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:01 PM

    ####

    LINNIE....thanks for the email and info...once the bill is passed...I will email you back....can't think right now

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 3:01 PM

    Lynda...please post your link...people are asking for it...thanks

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:01 PM

    Linnie, Its what Pam just said in her last post.


    The resolution also includes the rules for debate and the structure for discussion and no amendment shall be considered except those presented by the committee...etc..

    It is really stating how the proceedures will go

    then without intervening motions

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 02:56 PM

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 02:59 PM


    OK, SO THEN AS I UNDERSTAND THIS, DEPENDING ON HOW THIS PROCEDURAL VOTE GOES, THERE MAY BE A LOT MORE TIME ALLOTTED FOR DEBATE ON THIS TODAY AFTER THIS VOTE ... IS THIS CORRECT?

    THANKS AGAIN!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:01 PM

    ####

    LINNIE....thanks for the email and info...once the bill is passed...I will email you back....can't think right now

    Posted by: sharonlynn at September 7, 2006 03:01 PM

    NO PROBLEM, SHARONLYNN ... I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY AND CAN'T CONCENTRATE ON ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW EITHER ... MY STOMACH IS IN KNOTS TOO! LOL

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:03 PM

    I'm extremely disappointed to hear Jim McDermott (D-WA), my Rep., use that "this is a ridiculous bill" talk. He will hear from me about that. I've always thought he was awesome, and I've gotten very supportive letters from him on the horse slaughter issue. I understand this is a political tactic from the Dems, but it disgusts me. I'm writing Nancy Pelosi (House Minority Leader) too and telling her how offensive the tone of this tactic is.

    Posted by: Joann at September 7, 2006 3:03 PM

    PAM AND EVERYONE

    http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:03 PM

    SO, DO WE WANT "YEAS" ON THIS VOTE RIGHT NOW?

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:03 PM

    Refresh, refresh....

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at September 7, 2006 3:04 PM

    No...this vote is merely a parliamentarian proceedures vote...it includes that the debate will last 120 minutes...( that time has not begun yet)

    Please, post your link to the webcast...thanks

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:04 PM

    ########
    Oh, I understand the rules now. Rather than appear to your constituents as a heartless B*****D because you oppose HR 503, you come on and say we can't talk about this issue because we have health insurance and prescription drugs and other more important issues.
    Well, it seems to me they only drag those issues out in election years anyway. Once they are voted in....you never hear another word about them.
    Silly me for thinking differently.
    ########
    Joann,
    Welcome, glad you found us.
    Love to family and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in miracles. Believe in Barbaro.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 3:04 PM

    ######
    Thanks to all for the updates on HR 503, I'm at work and won't know till tonite. Let's pray it passes.

    Posted by: Susan O. at September 7, 2006 3:04 PM

    Yes keep the politics out of this.. We are being "watched" and need to be "nice" for alex's sake. Just keep on being positive and sending those vibes to washington. No bashing any reps. they have their right to opinions also, and if we disagree, we need to write that person..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 3:04 PM

    Linnie, I guess so. LOL its confusing.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:04 PM

    Okay....I just called Congressman Fitzpatrick's offce and asked him exactly how it works...

    This is the vote on the rule to debate. Once this is passed, and it will be, they start to debate the seven amendments. They should be finished debating the amendments for 3:30-3:45 and then go into a final debate on the bill.

    That's why not many people are there yet. They will be coming in

    The final vote probably won't be until 5 or 6PM

    I figured I'd call and ask instead of us all guessing. He was very helpful.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:05 PM

    Janice...

    I am honored that anyone use it. I only ask that we remember that it is in honor of our BARBARO.

    Linda Lee - Horse Hands Across America - do you mind if I use it in my postings? It just seems to describe what is going on here on TWR and I love it.
    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 02:04 PM

    Horse Hands Across America!
    Keep the Faith!

    Posted by: Linda Lee at September 7, 2006 3:05 PM

    WHERE'S OUR ATTY? LINNIE IS THAT YOU? I'M CONFUSED.
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 3:05 PM

    Good morning Alex and Barbaro family. Thanx Alex, for those articles. Wish you could post a pic of that sunrise! I read a wonderful article in the Houston Chronicle. I think it can be accessed thru chron.com. The title of the article is "Stop slaughtering horses to please foreign palates". The downside is this article should have appeared sooner. It may be too late to get some people galvanized into calling their representatives.

    Heyyyy Barbaro, how's my sweet boy? ACN!! That's what we all wait for every morning. I hope the weather is fine and you get to go out to graze again today. Have a good day babycakes. Now twitch your ears, here it comes

    Eat your carrots every day
    Doc R will be back so you can play

    Sunshine, breezes, grass everywhere
    There is nothing to compare

    Grow hoof grow! Heal leg heal!
    That's become our daily appeal

    Keep on doing like you are
    You'e our bright and shining star!

    Everybody, please light candles for Barbaro, Foggy and for this bill to pass!

    Foggy keep strong, gallant one!

    Posted by: Toby at September 7, 2006 3:05 PM

    Linda where are you watching on the net? Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 7, 2006 3:05 PM

    I think everyone there is there because they want the bill brought to the floor for a vote. Even if they are AGAINST the bill....they want it voted on.
    I believe if this resolution passes, then they address each amendment before the vote on the bill

    Can anyone tell me if I'm right

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 02:58 PM

    DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE RIGHT, SHELLEY, BUT THIS IS WHAT MAKES SENSE TO ME AND HOW I'M INTERPRETING IT, TOO ... YOUR POST CLARIFIES IT FOR ME ALSO.

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:06 PM

    I looked up procedural vote, and as I understand it - there must be a majority udner Procedural Vote for the bill to be debated, then voted on. If there is not a majority in the procedural vote - that's it. No vote on the bill.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 3:06 PM

    I can see what is going on since they minimized the picture. What does it look like?

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 3:06 PM

    #########
    I think that for the next hour or so, we should try to keep the posting to a minimum. Maybe let Shelley or just a few folks keep the updates going. Then when its done everyone can go for it. Just a suggestion. Trying to keep it from being so much to wade thru.

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 7, 2006 3:06 PM

    THANK YOU SHELLY!! GEEZ, I WONDERED WHAT WAS GOING ON!!!

    LUV YA,
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 3:06 PM

    ShelleyA - sorry didn't see your post from Fitzpatrick's office before I posted.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 3:08 PM


    #Mary L is right....we SHOULD wirte....but, my gosh, it would seem that here more than ever is should be OK to point out a horse's a** when we see one.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 3:08 PM

    Jen, It is this site

    http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:08 PM

    Good Morning Champ! Hope you slept well. Enjoy your time outside today. Maybe some treats are on their way to you? Love you lots big guy.

    xoxoxox

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 3:08 PM

    OK, NOW I SEE A WHOLE LOT MORE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE HOUSE CHAMBER ...

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:09 PM

    C SPAN LINK

    Or copy and paste this in your browser if that doesn't work above:

    http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

    Peace, -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 3:09 PM

    *******
    THIRD REQUEST...

    Lynda...PLEASE...post your weblink for the Cspan coverage

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:09 PM

    Socorro, it is going to be YEA. Republican 175 and Democrats 133. One Republ against and 32 Dems against so far

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:10 PM

    MARY S ... THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS:

    I looked up procedural vote, and as I understand it - there must be a majority udner Procedural Vote for the bill to be debated, then voted on. If there is not a majority in the procedural vote - that's it. No vote on the bill.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 03:06 PM

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:10 PM

    PAM I HAVE POSTED IT TWICE. LOLOL

    http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:10 PM

    #######

    Guys...I have to apologize...I thought I was making it very clear what was happening...including using capital letters!
    Please, forgive...will try to do better....

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:11 PM

    Socorro, it is going to be YEA. Republican 175 and Democrats 133. One Republ against and 32 Dems against so far

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 03:10 PM

    Lynda ... WHY does it matter who is against and for at this point? PLease .... keep political #s out of this today ... please ... thanks.

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:12 PM

    http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

    So far 344 yeas and 40 nays

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:12 PM

    ######

    Lynda...you are so sweet...I am so sorry...just doing too many things at once, today!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:12 PM

    LINNIE, Sorocco wanted to know what it looked like because he cannot see. So I told him.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:12 PM

    I Vote for Shelley to do the updates! Signing off.

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 3:13 PM

    PAMELA, YOU ARE DOING GREAT, THIS IS JUST VERY CONFUSING, EVEN FOR SMART PEOPLE LIKE US!! :>) THANKS FOR HELPING US!!
    LUV YA,
    CHERYL

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 3:13 PM

    Pam LOL that is ok. The posts are going fast. Poor Alex is going to have to make us another update page.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:13 PM

    *********

    If this passes...it means they will debate the bill for 120 minutes with the proposed amendments

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:13 PM

    Okay, step one is complete. They have passed the rule to debate the issue.
    Now, it is going to be a very long day!

    I have to thank my congressman's office for giving me a lesson. He was very nice in explaining things. And just as he said, they are starting to come into chambers now

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:14 PM

    ####

    while I agree there are "more important"" issues that need to be voted on, they have to remember it is the little things that are important to people besides the war/et. It is the small stuff that makes the American way of life. They need to be reminded that they are there for us and what issues are important to us. If they had this same thinking for other issues, we would be a 3rd world country today. We would have lost many endangered species (Bald Eagle for one) Our food would be substandard, we wouldn't have protection for free speech, our food would not be inspected. there are many "little" issues that have made our lives and animals lives a lot better today..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 3:14 PM

    WHERE'S OUR ATTY? LINNIE IS THAT YOU? I'M CONFUSED.
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 03:05 PM

    I WISH, CHERYL, BUT 'TAIN'T ME ... IT'S SUSAN E!

    AND NOW I JUST BECAME A POET!! LOLOL

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:14 PM

    Well, I guess that's it until this afternoon. Shoot.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:15 PM

    OMG this is an all day affair. Thanks for keeping those of us unable to watch up to date. Let me know if Mary Bono speaks. She's my rep.

    Why don't they just show the video. It's proof this isn't euthanasia!!!!

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 3:15 PM

    Shelley A,

    Thanks for calling Fitzpatrick's office. Geez, 5 or 6pm. Goodness, long time and will be anxious all the while, refresh, pray, refresh, pray, maybe think about doing a little work, refresh, pray, maybe should just throw in the towel and say I'm sick and go home, refresh, pray.


    Does this routine sound familiar to anyone else?

    Posted by: Skyler at September 7, 2006 3:16 PM

    ##########
    Linda Lee,
    thank you and you bet it is in Barbaro's honor!!!!

    Just trying to figure out what's happening - I gather it's going to be awhile yet. Jeez - hard to concentrate on anything else.

    Thank you everyone for keeping the rest of us informed.

    Thanks Pammie for your insight

    Horse Hands Across America

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 3:16 PM

    I VOTE SHELLY & PAMMIE!!
    THANKS GALS!!
    LOVE & PRAYERS, I'M SIGNING OFF FOR A BIT TOO.
    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 3:16 PM

    Hahahaha!!!! these guys are as bad as we are in the classroom!!! HAHAHAHA

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:17 PM

    NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING? THEY'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT HR503 ... IS IT OVER? WHAT HAPPENED?

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:17 PM

    I think it passed.
    Yea 349 Nay 40 Non votes 44

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 7, 2006 3:18 PM

    Linnie,
    I noticed the same thing..UGH Grrrrrrr

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 3:19 PM

    Linnie, I think that is it until this afternoon. They will debate the amendments and then i guess do another vote on whether to add them, then debate the final bill, then this evening vote.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:19 PM

    It's over yes

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 7, 2006 3:19 PM

    Even politics on a local level are a beast all their own. My husband has been a councilman in our borough for 13 years ( no one wants to get involved and run in our ward). We are both republicans but we do disagree on many things. Some of my husband closest allies are democrats so there are good and not good in each party. All that matters is the character of the individual ( or lack of it ).

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 3:20 PM

    FOR SHELLEYA:

    Okay, step one is complete. They have passed the rule to debate the issue.
    Now, it is going to be a very long day!

    I have to thank my congressman's office for giving me a lesson. He was very nice in explaining things. And just as he said, they are starting to come into chambers now

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 03:14 PM

    OK, SO THIS MEANS THAT IT WILL COME UP FOR DEBATE SOMETIME TODAY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW JUST WHEN ... IS THIS CORRECT? OR DO WE KNOW THAT IT WILL BE MUCH LATER TODAY?

    WHAT THE HECK DO WE KNOW? LOL ... I AM SO CONFUSED RIGHT NOW ... HELP PLEASE! THANKS SO MUCH!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:20 PM

    #####


    Mary L -- Props to your comments on the "little issues." The defense bill up now may "seem" more important in DC, but out here, we just want our horses safe, and to remove this unwelcome activity from our barns and communities where it does more harm than good.


    Thanks to all for hanging in on this today, and to Alex, we promise to go easy on your poor bandwith... after the vote :-) - Onward and upward, Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 3:21 PM

    ########
    The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments posted at Capital Hill.

    You cannot post "Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery" and "Thou Shall Not Lie" in a building full of Congress men and women -- it creates a hostile work environment.

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at September 7, 2006 3:21 PM

    Jazz, hahaha! that's the truth. They break all ten everyday!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:22 PM

    ####
    Mary L, your post at 3:14pm. I totally agree and couldn't have said it better. Yes, very true.

    Posted by: Skyler at September 7, 2006 3:22 PM

    Jazz,
    Very well said.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 3:23 PM

    Linnie and Debbie

    No, it's just beginning.

    They passed the Rule to Debate. Now the 7 amendments will be addressed and debated one by one. That won't end until about 3:30.

    Then they will debate the bill as submitted in it's final form and have the vote around 5 or 6PM

    I may have to call my congressman's office back and ask him why they are talking about everything else.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:23 PM

    SERIOUSLY, THEY MAKE US (IN THE CHATROOM) ON OUR WORST NIGHTS (LOL) LOOK LIKE ANGELS!!!

    TOO FUNNY JAZZ!!!

    CHERYL G

    Posted by: Cheryl G INDY at September 7, 2006 3:24 PM

    So, I guess we have to wait until tomorrow for an update on our horse for last night? Ugh. Where did Dr Richardson go again???? What is going to happen when Mr Matz takes all his horses AND himself to Florida?????? Is Peter going to stay and give us updates?

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:24 PM

    Those ammendments Goodlatte piled in are a bunch of bullsh__!

    Why, people in Virginia, is he SO ADAMANT about stopping the slaughter???????????

    He sounds rabid about it.

    Where does his contributions come from and where do those connections lead?

    Remember the Congressman that had all that money stashed in his freezer?

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 3:25 PM

    #### Jazz, you do tell the truth...LOL!!

    Posted by: Sue H at September 7, 2006 3:25 PM

    To all that are keeping us up to date on the HR 503 debate....thanks. And to those ...Alex, Tim and everyone else, thanks for keeping us up to date on Barbaro. This debate on HR 503 is the beginning of a loooooong long process. The reality is that it might not pass this session. Then of course is the Senate.... and on and on. There are plenty of reps and senators that vote with their pockets rather than their heads or heaven forbid....their hearts. BUT, I am convinced that with a concerted effort from eonough people like the Jacksons and those that I have seen on this site, we can force this issue to be taken seriously and made into a law of this land that horses will not be slaughtered for profit in America. It cranks me up to think an animal as beautiful and loyal as a horse would be slaughtered. Keep the faith, keep the issue close to your hearts, but most of all, keep the pressure on the clowns in suits to ban this. Best wishes and prayers for Barbaro from the Gates of Eden Farm.

    Posted by: David at September 7, 2006 3:26 PM

    Should we start calling and FAXing again? What should we do now?

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 3:26 PM


    Barbaro,

    We are here today, because of love for you. May your day be spent, nibbling,' and answering fan mail. May you not have a single care, other than to HEAL.

    We are here, monitoring some very important work. Our part has been done in your name, and for your sake...out of love.

    You, are such a great part of that love. We are connected to you, and to eachother by it.

    Just-a-horse.....just a wonderful, miracle of a horse... Thank you, for being our champion and source of inspiration.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 3:26 PM

    *********

    One of the people you saw entering included the Majority Leader of the Senate Boehner (R)...basically, there is now for consideration
    HR 5122...appropriation bill for defense spending...as asked for by the SENATE

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:26 PM

    LINNIE, Sorocco wanted to know what it looked like because he cannot see. So I told him.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 03:12 PM

    OK, LYNDA ... I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS SPIRAL OUT OF CONTROL AND INTO A POLITICAL FOOTBALL TODAY ...

    I AM ONE OF THE BIGGEST 'CONTRIBUTORS' TO BEING VERY PASSIONATE AND INTENSE AS TO MY POLITICAL LEANINGS, BUT ... I AM REALLY CONCENTRATING ON THE BIG PICTURE TODAY WHICH IS GETTING THIS BILL PASSED FOR THE HORSES ... I DOUBT THAT BOBBY AND FOGGY AND ALL THE REST CARE RIGHT NOW IF THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR THIS BILL ARE 'PUBBIES, DEMMIES, RED, WHITE, BLUE, PURPLE OR ORANGE!

    THIS IS ABOUT THEM, NOT ABOUT ME AND MY OWN POLITICS RIGHT NOW. THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME FOR ME TO GET REVVED UP 'BLUE' FOR HUMAN ISSUES AND FOR 2008, BUT TODAY IT'S FOR BOBBY WHO, BY THE WAY, WEARS A 'BLUE' BLANKET WITH A 'RED' TRIM ... SO EVEN HE IS BIPARTISAN RIGHT NOW!

    SENDING YOU WINKS AND (((( )))) (HUGS!)

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 3:26 PM

    Chris Byers, the money in the freezer was hilarious. Mabe thats where this Amendment dork is putting all his money from the slaughter hourses.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:28 PM

    *********

    One of the people you saw entering included the Majority Leader of the Senate Boehner (R)...basically, there is now for consideration
    HR 5122...appropriation bill for defense spending...as asked for by the SENATE

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:28 PM

    ######
    Someone correct me if I am wrong, but an animal that is humanely euthanized with drugs cannot be used for human consumption.
    So I think they know how it goes down.
    I agree with Laura...and I won't post when the hearing are on.

    Susan

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 3:28 PM

    #####Linnie, On why we need to know who voted for and against. I agree with you that it is not the most imp. thing today , but we do need to know, because I am basing my future votes on how my Reps. vote on this bill , whether Rep. or Dem. and I hope you all will too. Thanks for listening to my opinion.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 7, 2006 3:29 PM

    Otherlyn,
    How nice you have me teary eyed. Not just a horse. A miracle one for sure.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 3:30 PM

    SusanW you are correct. the guy with the Amendments has no idea what he is tlaking about or he is an outright LIAR. Everything he said was a lie.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:30 PM

    All this voting was, to vote to vote this afternoon. What? I don't understand this.
    Any way last count was

    Yea 349 Nay 40 Non votes 44.
    But that's not right.
    Total to vote was 425

    No wonder the Governments so slow!
    They vote to vote later. GEE!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 7, 2006 3:32 PM

    Okay....called my congressman's office back again.

    The are debating something else now (a defense bill) and will not resume HR503 probably until about 1PM. When they do, it will be all about that and they will have ten minutes on each side to debate each amendment.

    This is other business that has to be finished before they spend the rest of the day on HR503

    My "aid" said they get updates constantly about the timing of things so they can adjust their congressman's schedules accordingly.

    I will call him later if there are any changes. But for now, you can go about your business until about 1PM

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:33 PM

    ALEX

    Do you know what is going to happen with the updates when Mr Matz takes his horses to Florida? Is he still going to call you with updates?? Is Peter staying at Fair Hill?

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:34 PM

    Sending again best wishes for our Barbaro to continue being happy and recovering.
    Congratulations to Dr. Richardson on his receiving the Ecllipse award--no one more deserving with his dedicaton, hard work and committment to his profession and his personal intimacy with horses.
    So anxious to hear news about H.R.503. I think whatever the outcome, everyone on this website who worked so hard to create awareness and influence congressman, should be applauded. It is important we keep in mind those anti-horse congressmen and challenge them in the future. Also, it is worth noting that this Bush white house are not protectors of the land or wildlife. We need major changes in Washington in coming years!

    Posted by: Lorraine at September 7, 2006 3:35 PM

    I politely told the aides/interns of all the reps I called both R and D that horse slaughter was un-American and against our moral fabric as a nation.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 3:35 PM

    ####
    Otherlyn, love your post "Just-a-horse.....just a wonderful, miracle of a horse... Thank you, for being our champion and source of inspiration" posted at 3:26pm.

    That just really sums it all up. It all goes back to Barbaro, all of our efforts, all of us coming together. It all started with him.

    Posted by: Skyler at September 7, 2006 3:36 PM

    I feel like I'm on a rollercoaster. My stomach is in knots. I am going to collect myself for a few hours and then come back.

    Posted by: Sheila at September 7, 2006 3:39 PM

    This bill should be a slam dunk in our favor. I just don't understand what the debate is. If each Rep would look at the video I think it would change many minds. The "issue" must be money, how to support all the un wanted horses.

    Could you believe on Nightline the "cowboy" saddling his horse saying slaughter was OK with him??? He's never had a real relationship with his horses.
    Our President is not in favor of this Bill. No offense to our Texas family, but is it about money for him as well?

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 3:39 PM

    ##########

    Linnie,

    To some of us, it DOES matter....and,by your little blanket comment, that includes even you. So please, Dear Heart, don't let it worry or bother you if someone makes note of the (R)s and (D)s.

    >>> It should not, and will not, separate any of us from eachother. Everyone has a place here, if we love Barbaro; whether we lean "Red" or whether we lean "Blue."

    Some of us think it is important to observe which party has the most people supporting the bill, so that there is a RECORD of the votes. It is important to keep track of such things because we need to take our blinders off when we are deciding on the kind of people we will put into office...people who will have power over our lives.

    The beauty of HR503 is that it truely seems to be a Bi-Partisan effort.....just like we good folks here in Barbaronation.

    Fret not, Linnie....here, we are (R)'s and (D)'s who are truely (B)'s at heart.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 3:40 PM

    Alex, thanks for the report from Barclay tagg.

    will the Man -o -War be shown on TV?

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 3:41 PM

    Team Barbaro:

    Alex, thanks for posting the link to the Post article.

    Watching CSPAN was an education. Kudos to Mr. Sweeney, Mr. Rahall (you rock) and Mr. Whitfield. Getting this procedural vote thru is the first step - and we're not done yet. Shelley and all those who have worked so hard to get awareness out to all of us - you are inspiring.

    Now for Goodlatte - my skin crawled listening to him. The women from CA? Are they up for re-election this year???? There is no space for those who try to divert lawmakers from their work - no matter what the issue. Maybe horse welfare isn't as important as homeland security or energy prices - but these legislators are going to get a lesson on doing what they are elected to do - serve the people. Every cause is important to somebody and they have to start somewhere and work up. Every elected official can be replaced and they need to remember that. That's all I'm gonna say because I am (by most accounts) a lady.

    I'm going to sign off and just monitor the site so Shelley and the other "BarbaroEquinePress" correspondents can post.

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at September 7, 2006 3:42 PM

    well, i need to go to bed so I will be awake at school so I can talk to you guys (LOL).

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:42 PM

    Yes!

    The Barbarian Party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am a B !!!!!!!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 3:42 PM

    Lyn I asked my mom about the lady from CA. My parents are in CA and mom says that she IS up for election. That is why she rambled on the way she did. It's all about getting reelected for the ones who are coming up for election.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:43 PM

    Yes, the Barbarian Party. I'm switching.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 3:44 PM

    Barbaro , don't be concerned that every post was not to you this morning ! We are all concerned about the anti-slaughter bill and consumed by the meeting today.

    Most of us have been drawn into this fight because of our love for you , big guy , and in some intrinsic way , I feel you are leading the fight.

    What if we call it Barbaro's Bill?
    Many bills are called names instead of their official numbers.

    The Barbaro Effect is what drove me to this bill and I think it would get more attention from the average public if we called it Barbaro's Bill.

    Also, there are two kinds of people : the kind that are trying to save Barbaro's life and the kind that are killing horses. Which are you ?
    Just some thoughts for the future campaign. This will be hard fought, because there is a ton of money on the other side.
    But remember , the only thing our congresspeople like better than money is POWER and when we shine the light on the ones who voted against this, it will threaten thier power (position) Have faith horse lovers.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 7, 2006 3:44 PM

    I thought Matsui was supporting the Bill.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 3:44 PM

    JUST AN FYI

    I see some argument over (R) and (D)...but didn't get a chance to read all the posts...I was too busy typing...

    I was merely trying to be as accurate as possible in describing who was talking for those who do not get CSPAN...it was not meant to be a political commentary...REPEAT...not a political commentary...I just tried to get the peoples' names correct and their party affiliation and their state for all of you because they might be YOUR reps and thought you would want to know how they are leaning on the issue...

    Hope this clears up my end of it...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:45 PM

    Jazz, you made my day! That is so true.
    There money is there money and our money is there money.

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at September 7, 2006 3:46 PM

    Pamela,

    You did great. All I had were the reports from this site.Please keep it up.
    Thanks

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 3:47 PM

    Lynda, thanks for letting me know. She rankled me to no end...almost like she was on her own agenda instead of her constituents (and said constituents horses...).

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at September 7, 2006 3:47 PM

    Boy, I came here late, but it doesn't look like I missed much. Now they're going to debate those nasty amendments.

    After hearing about what all they've done today, no wonder this country is such a mess!

    What amazes me how people can stand up and lie with impunity.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 3:49 PM

    Guys...WHAT AN EDUCATION....can you believe we are paying for this...OMG...I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:50 PM

    I'm changing my party to the B party.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 3:50 PM

    ME TOO...the B Party for me!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 3:51 PM

    Why aren't the good, honest, compassionate people voted into office. I need an education.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 3:51 PM

    Some Information

    Many of the people who spoke this morning making fun of the "horsey bill" ARE supporters of the bill. They weren't knocking the bill but they were just trying to make a point and knock the republicans for putting this on the agenda before other matters.
    They will still vote with us later in the day. They were just using their time to campaign.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 3:52 PM

    ####### Lorraine , I apreciated your post and agreed with it until you started a partisan writing campaign for one political party. Please don't. THIs is not the place to debate politics on that level. I ask you this respectfully and in a friendly way , since we are both lovers of Barbaro and want this bill passed. Let's be friends and not partisans, okay. with good wishes

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 7, 2006 3:52 PM

    Everyone stands for re-election every two years in the House of Representatives!
    jan

    Posted by: Jan Boterf at September 7, 2006 3:53 PM

    Also, it is worth noting that this Bush white house are not protectors of the land or wildlife. We need major changes in Washington in coming years!

    Posted by: Lorraine at September 7, 2006 03:35 PM

    Don't go there Lorraine.
    __________________________________
    Not everyone feels as you do.

    Voting for republican 1 nay, Democratic 39 Nay.

    But I am here for all the horses, and not to talk POLITICAL things with anyone.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 7, 2006 3:54 PM

    Please, let us all remember what we are about here. We, the Barbaro Nation, pledge to stick together regarding HR 503 and leave all other political viewpoints on hold for the time being.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 3:55 PM

    Alex


    I read on a article a few days ago that they are considering removing the cast from Barbaro's leg this month to see how he will do without it now as they are "pleased" with the fusion of the fetlock joint. Can you check with Peter or Michael and see if they are still thinking of doing this?


    Thanks!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 3:55 PM

    Cathy, she is for it, but she is also running for her seat again, so she has to pretend that she is very concerned about those other issues more than the horse issue. Also, I think mabe they are honest and carying BEFORE then get elected. But afterwords they are corrupted by the system. I dont know how you live through it without being corrupted.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 3:56 PM

    Lynda,
    You're right. Can you imagine life in Washington with all the money thrown around. How tempting it must all be.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 3:57 PM

    ######
    I'm a B party member!!!

    Anyone hear what Rep. Hefley just said (re:debate on RX drugs for military)?
    "Gentlemen, we have seen something today very rare, an intelligent debate from both sides on the actual issue".

    Susan

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 3:58 PM

    SHELLY A FOR CONGRESS (OR PRESIDENT)!!!!

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 7, 2006 3:59 PM

    Barbaro Nation:
    We cannot be divided or we will turn into THEM. We're here for Barbaro, Foggy and all the other wonderful horses.
    Light a candle for passage.

    Posted by: Louise in Ohio at September 7, 2006 4:00 PM

    YES GUYS...

    Think purple today...not red or blue...

    We are not the problem...horse slaughter is...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:00 PM

    ###
    Cathy Potter, That cowboy from Nightline was Matt Brockman he is a big Texas cattleman and a member of the Quarter Horse Association. I think he may even be a paint horse breeder *gasp* and don't forget, to him it isn't slaughter, it is "processing".

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:00 PM

    Cathy, it's very hard. I don't think I would ever want a job in politics. You are constantly bullied into compromising your faith and your morals and I would NOT handle it very well. In the end, Money, not ethics or morals winds up ruling the day. It's whoever has the most money.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 4:01 PM

    Here we go, HR503 bill to ammend on the floor now.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:01 PM

    Mary L. Ohio,
    This is from Dr.R. you can't get better than this.

    "Dr. Dean W. Richardson, Chief of Surgery. “We continue to monitor him closely, and depending on how he progresses, we may change it again within the next two weeks.”

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:01 PM

    HERE WE GO...

    They are asking to consider the AMENDMENTS to the bill..

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:01 PM

    From what I've seen, there are idiots, as well as good guys/gals, on both sides of the aisle.

    What we need to do is find out which is which, and vote/write/campaign accordingly.

    American Humane Assn just sent me an email asking me what they should concentrate on. I told them, get us a list of the pro- and anti-animal welfare people.

    As for me, I vote for BARBARO FOR CONGRESS!!

    OH NO, THEY'RE BACK AT IT RIGHT NOW!!!!

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 7, 2006 4:02 PM

    THEY ARE BACK ON WITH THE DEBATE EARLIER THAN SCHEDULED!!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:03 PM

    REP JOE BARTON (R) Texas ...chair of Energy and Commerce Committee is speaking against the bill..

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:04 PM

    #####
    My husband, who is a news producer, rec'd this email this morning from a group obviously seeking airtime. Thought you'd all enjoy his contact information! Do with it what you will. . . :0)

    Interview Opportunity!
    “The American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act: Big Government Just Sowing its Oats”
    “The Cute and Cuddly” Lobby is at it Again

    Today, the House of Representatives will vote on H.R. 503, “The American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act.” The basis of this bill attacks one of the fundamental notions of an individual’s right to private property. This legislation purports to protect the welfare of horses; however, it essentially removes the right of an individual to dispose of their horse. It will increase the power of the federal government over an already well regulated industry.

    Hearings conducted by the House Energy and Commerce Committee and House Committee on Agriculture in regard to “The American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act,” showed that livestock slaughter is already highly regulated and not abusive. In fact, Testimonies presented showed the overwhelming majority of organizations supporting horses oppose H.R. 503 – including associations representing various horse breeders, veterinary societies and agriculture organizations. In fact, alternative disposal methods are extremely costly for horse owners.

    The House Committee on Agriculture voted AGAINST H.R. 503 by a vote of 37-3.

    In 2005, Scott A. LaGanga helped form Property Rights Alliance (PRA) an organization dedicated to the protection of both physical and intellectual property rights, on the state, national, and international level. Therefore Scott LaGanga, executive director of PRA, is your shows premiere guest to discuss the issues of property rights, both intellectual and physical.

    For more information, please contact Scott LaGanga at 202-390-6978 or slaganga@propertyrightsalliance.org

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at September 7, 2006 4:05 PM

    GUYS...THIS HAPPENS...I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING...to the best of my ability

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:06 PM

    I can't listen to any more of this. I am going to bed.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas at September 7, 2006 4:06 PM

    ####

    So Matt Brockman and the Cattle Mans Association makes three dollars per horse killed. Makes sense now why he is ALL for it.. just follow the money it always knows!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:07 PM

    Whew....Pam, you're here!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:07 PM

    Okay this is a little of the topic but I just read they arrested two teenage boys here in Atlanta for BAKING a puppy in an oven!!!!!!!!

    Seems to me there is a lot of work for us on this site to stand up for all of our 4 legged creatures!!

    This is from the article:
    Prompted by a case in which a puppy was cooked in an oven, Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard is calling for tougher animal cruelty penalties in Georgia.

    I live in Fulton county and am going to write this man to see what I can do as a citizen!!

    A PUPPY!!!!!

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 4:08 PM

    #######

    I agree with other comments - this is no place for politics - issues only - we're members of the "B" party. Please - this is EXTREMELY emotional for all of us but let's stay united.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 4:08 PM

    whew okay, gearing up for the "talk"

    GOOD MORNING BARBARO WORLD
    Thanks to Alex for the updates. That's all I've read so far, having become glued to the C-Span coverage a few minutes ago Here a link if you need it...http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

    Good Morning Sweet Barbaro Are you watching? Cheer 'em on, Big Boy. Give your mom and dad nuzzles from all of us for being so passionate about HR 503

    Great work, Dr R and Staff You all are awesome and we love you! Congratulations !

    See you all later whew nerves are SHOT

    love you all,

    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 7, 2006 4:08 PM

    REP BARTON is stating his position...he is saying nothing new...

    Says bill infringes on horse owners right to dispose of their horse while recovering some money for doing so...

    He recognizes the opposition, but says ordinary owners don't have the resources to deal with horses they no longer want...

    Says this is an emotional issue...yields the balance of his time to the gentleman from IDAHO

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:09 PM

    God Bless Her,
    She is great and talking about our Boy. Yipppppppppe!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:11 PM

    Sen. Jankowsky just talked about our Barbaro support!!

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 7, 2006 4:11 PM

    I heard about the boys and the puppy. I live in ATL. I feel nothing but rage

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 4:11 PM

    Sounds like Scott La Ganga is a lobbyist - as that group PRA.

    I wonder if PRA has contributed any money to Goodlatte????????????

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 4:11 PM

    ####

    "B" Party members unite! I love it! Proud to be a member!!

    Posted by: Skyler at September 7, 2006 4:11 PM

    Good people all -- While I feel today is not the day to throw any negativity towards people we don't agree with (like I did before with my comments about Rep Goodlate, LOL!) you CAN check up where Congressmen get their money at: OpenSecrets.org.

    Here is the link to Rep G's pages:


    http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/sector.asp?CID=N00009154&cycle=2004

    This probably doesn't include "soft" money, trips, speaking engagements and the like. It's no surprise he receives funding from the organizations on record against HR 503 that he invited to testify at his Aggy Committee hearing this summer.

    OK, so what. The Barbaro Nation knows "like attracts like." Vigils, candles, carrots and cards. So the more we push against what we don't want the more we feed it. Just for today I promise to try and stay focused on good outcome for our horses and not fall prey to feeding the beast in DC. Hang in there, we are on a roll. Thanks to all for their work. -- Peace, Susan in Saratoga


    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 4:11 PM

    Schakowksy from Illinois RULES!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:12 PM

    REP JAN SCHAKOWSKY (D) Illinois...is speaking for HR 503...she is pointing out that this issue has been voted on and approved before...says opposition go against the intent of the original
    legislation...

    SHE IS TALKING ABOUT THE BARBARO EFFECT

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:12 PM

    Barbaro mentioned in Congress YAAAYYY

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 4:13 PM

    ######

    FOR OTHERLYN:

    Let me say that this comment from you is both offensive and condescending ... especially the latter.

    But I am not getting into a debate with anyone today ... I was making a BIPARTISAN point about Bobby's blanket ... trying to add some levity/humor to the situation, but I see that you prefer to get into a debate which I will not participate in.

    Again, I find your "little blanket comment" very offensive and condescending and that's all I will say. That was not my intent but, apparently, it was your perception and reality. So be it. I will know to 'stay away' from further dialogue in this regard.

    Back to what's really important to me ... WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW!!

    Linnie,

    To some of us, it DOES matter....and,by your little blanket comment, that includes even you. So please, Dear Heart, don't let it worry or bother you if someone makes note of the (R)s and (D)s.

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 4:13 PM

    I like this woman!

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 4:13 PM

    Lets not sign off on Barbaro Burgers.. - wow.. she let them have it! Good on her!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:14 PM

    Sen. Jankowsky,
    You go girl! I love this woman. Excellent she spoke right from her heart being a horse owner.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:14 PM

    My parents always said: "People get the government they vote for"

    Posted by: Anita at September 7, 2006 4:15 PM

    REP SCHAKOWSKY is stating the issues surrounding HR503...horses are shipped in inhumane conditions, are rendered dead upon slaughter

    ....is talking about FERDINAND and his fate in Japan...WHAT IF THIS HAPPENED TO BARBARO

    ...compares this practice to eating cats and dogs

    ....says DO NOT SIGN OFF ON BARBARO BURGERS

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:15 PM

    Is Rep. Schakowsky a Barbaromaniac or what - I wonder if she knows about this site? I love this woman. Is anybody here from her district? This is one lady who has her priorities straight!!!

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at September 7, 2006 4:15 PM

    Rep. Schakowsky is my hero.

    Barbaro burgers, indeed!!!! :(

    Posted by: Jane in CT at September 7, 2006 4:16 PM

    #####

    Marky seems to me we have a lot to do on the local level too. These teenagers had better get the max sentence!

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 4:16 PM

    ATTN: COLORADANS

    We need to get HEFLEY out of office!!!

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 4:17 PM

    Hay,
    No attacking Linnie or Otherlyn! More important things are going on right now. Knock it off!! No negativity either, Barbaro needs positive energy.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:17 PM

    here is the link to the current debate:

    http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

    supporter just mentioned Barbaro

    Posted by: Bonnie Strunk at September 7, 2006 4:18 PM

    House debate on H.R. 503 seems to be going on now.

    Rep Schakowsky (IL) is talking on behalf of H.R. 503. She is also talking about Barbaro and the attention he?s getting. ?Disgusted? at slaughterhouses. In humane conditions to and at slaughter. Condition of horses at SH. Age of horses are in ?good? conditions before going to slaughter. Humane vote would be to vote for this legislation. Also mentioned Ferdinand. Most Americans do not support HS. No ?Barbaro burgers? WOW

    Sorry about the typing. Goodlatte is spaking now.

    Thanks.

    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:18 PM

    REP FROM IDAHO...no name shown yet...is speaking against the bill...says horses that are not slaughtered will starve...bill will endanger their welfare...

    Advances the argument that this is an individual property rights issue...that Congress should not interfere with individual property rights...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:18 PM

    I hope Barbaro has a wonderful day, its so great to know he is doing so good, keep up the good news Beautiful Barbaro!
    I read the article in the Washington Post by Mr. Cohen, thank god he told it like it is and we need a BIG MIRACLE today to put a stop to horse slaughter, lets pray hard and may the horses be heard ! Bless Mr. And Mrs. Jackson in their efforts to fight this too for the horses and everyone involved to save these horses, God bless all of you and Barbaro,
    mary

    Posted by: mary at September 7, 2006 4:19 PM

    Jane,
    Just think Barbaro Burgers to go with the Barbarotinis. Bet we would get alot of orders, the only orders, since we will only sell them.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:19 PM

    I really don't know if I can watch this. Their arguments are all lies and making me sick

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:20 PM

    An article in the Thoroughbed daily news about the FDA opposing the bill. the reasons given are ludicrous. One the main guy says that they are worried about the humane treatment of these unwanted horses if slaughter is banned. Slaughter-Humane? Isnt that like military intelligence? Another is that the govt. shouldnt be taking away the ability for someone to make money on their animals. I got news for them- the killer buyers arent paying much for them. They buy by the pound and it doesnt amount to much. I wish I could argue with that guy- he hasnt a clue! Jen

    Posted by: Jen at September 7, 2006 4:20 PM

    ####

    Linnie, don't sweat it - I caught the blanket analogy and I thought it was a good one! i am totally bi-partisan today and I wore red, white and blue in honor of this vote and i think any member of congress who is against the slaughter rules and if they run in PA in my ditrict I will vote for them regarless of any party - we are all B's here!

    Alex, I love the Union Jack, too! ( I am a big Who fan! )

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 4:20 PM

    #######

    THANK YOU, JANICE ...

    THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY AND WHAT MY INTENT WAS ... I'M HAPPY THAT YOU AGREE TO KEEP THIS STRICTLY APOLITICAL TODAY!

    I agree with other comments - this is no place for politics - issues only - we're members of the "B" party. Please - this is EXTREMELY emotional for all of us but let's stay united.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 04:08 PM

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 4:21 PM

    REP COLLIN PETERSON (D) Minnesota...says the bill will eliminate the ability to get rid of aging horses...we cannot accomodate these horses...
    Says euthanasia isn't cheap...and time consuming

    (Gosh this guy is cruel...IMHO)

    Says the horses slaughtered are unfit,unmanageable and old ...

    (This is NOT supported by the evidence)

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:22 PM

    Go Mr. Sweeney Go!!

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 7, 2006 4:23 PM

    Marie,
    So right. The Max these 2 bootomfeeeders can get is 5 years, NOT ENOUGH. And they bragged about it.

    Between this and the congressional debate I need tranquilizers.

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 4:24 PM

    Barbaro Burgers... that was strong. Sen Jankowski is the WORD! It's funny when so called logical arguments against the bill don't use logic, the suggestion that there are 90,000 unwanted horses and the reality that many horses involved are, in fact, stolen. And the fact we went from 300,000 a year to 90,000 a year without having unwanted horses overruning the suburbs of DC. As to the personal propery rights argument, they used that in the 1860s against the abolition of slavery. -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 4:24 PM

    To our beloved Barbaro - May God speed your recovery. We pray for you and love you so much!

    To Foggy - May God grant another miracle in his recovery. With God ALL things are possible.

    For the Anti-Slaughter bill - God, put your hand in this and have it passed.

    As far as Dr. R. and the New Bolton Center receiving the 2006 Eclipse Award of Merit, it should really happen. The time spent, the dedication, the skills given are like none other.

    Posted by: D. Vecero at September 7, 2006 4:24 PM

    A PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDURE IS BEING DISCUSSED REGAARDING THE AMOUNT OF TIME REMAINING FOR EACH REP WHO WANTS TO SPEAK...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:24 PM

    Sweeney is showing pictures

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:25 PM

    Amen!

    Rep Sweeney is great citing Wash Post and Times as both supporting this measure. Showing visuals.

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:25 PM

    Can't watch are pics gone?

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 4:25 PM

    Denouncing rules committee. USDA failed their job.

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:26 PM

    Denouncing rules committee. USDA failed their job.

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:27 PM

    ###

    Rep. John Sweeney – FOR R - New York is showing pictures and the cold hard facts....they can't look away now.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:27 PM

    I hear emotion coming for this guy, I can't see who is talking. Good for him!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:27 PM

    REP SWEENEY (R) New York...is speaking for HR 503
    says the practice is brutal and preditory...
    Public Opinion is against this practice..
    Cites...WASHINGTON POST, NY TIMES...says practice should stop.. Also indicates CA and TX are opposed

    Wants to emphasize the untruth of opposition...

    IS SHOWING PICTURE OF HORSES HEAD FROM SLAUGHTER FACILITY

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:27 PM

    I'm going to be sick but Sweeny is effective.

    I want to screem. This happened to my childhood horse! We did not realize he was sold to a killer.

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 4:27 PM

    GO SWEENEY! He's my rep and I could not be any more proud of his REALITY CHECK. YOU GO! -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 4:28 PM

    I am proud to be a South Carolinian right now.

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 7, 2006 4:28 PM

    Rep Spratt is taking apart opposition one by one. GO!

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:28 PM

    SWEENEY of NEW YORK

    Is talking about Killer Buyers who prey on horses to sell for slaughter...

    Talks about arrest of one of these killers for...

    Says opposition is surupticiously skirting intent of original bill

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:29 PM

    ###

    He is telling them that the argument that this bill will allow people to also ban the slaughter of cattle etc. This has been one of the oppositions main arguments. He is picking them apart one by one. Very good statements. He did very well.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:31 PM

    Christopher Shays, My guy from CT. Good man!! This bill looks like it will pass.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:32 PM

    Chris Shayes (CT) good point no horse slaughter for any means. Also opposes all amendments.

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:32 PM

    REP SPRATT (D) So Carolina...is speaking for the bill...sights that this is a foreign owned business...opponents are wrong...that this will not lead to prohibition of slaughter of cows and horses and chickens...etc

    Says overpopulation of horses will not result in bills passage...sights CA (which already bans the practice) and no effect was measured...

    Talks about vast number of people supporting bill all over thecountry

    Sights the original vote of last year to end this practice

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:32 PM

    This guy Salizar has a "0%"rating for all animal welfare issues from HSUS. Worse record of anyone

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:33 PM

    REP CHRIS SHAYS (R) Connecticut is for the bill

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:34 PM

    I wish Sazazar listened to Spratt. Didn't CA say that there was no increase in horse neglect or theft after the ban there?

    Giving the usual threats.

    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:35 PM

    And we have to listen to him for 5 minutes! Another sick stomach for me.

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at September 7, 2006 4:35 PM

    ######
    Sweeney was great picked the opposition apart totally... I really cannot stand Salazar - he makes me sick.

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 4:35 PM

    Ryan,
    I am there with you.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:36 PM

    Can you believe that this devil Salazar just said if his horse fell and broke his leg should he not be able to send him to a rendering plant!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:36 PM

    REP OF COLORADO is being introduced as a REAL RANCHER...etc...

    JOHN SALAZAR (D) Colorado is against the bill
    Says it forces horses to live out their lives in misery

    Says it saves maintainance costs on unwanted horses

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:36 PM

    Salazar gets the Jack ass award

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 4:36 PM

    #####


    Salazar,

    He says he is a horseman, calls it rendering facility and he wants to send his horse there if it breaks its leg.. Gosh..oops magic word, he is a cattle man as well. Who would of thought??

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:36 PM

    ###############3

    Thanks, Renee ... I couldn't agree more. All I am saying that if it's important to some people to 'know' how these reps are voting and what their affiliation is, party-wise, that's fine ... just take that discussion and those numbers off this site and into the Chat Room or a Special Discussion on the Forum. For me today, this has nothing to do with politics whatsoever; in fact, I am rooting for everyone in support of HR503 and I am not looking to 'see' what political party they represent. That is not for this site. Again, thanks, Renee ... completely agree.

    Hay,
    No attacking Linnie or Otherlyn! More important things are going on right now. Knock it off!! No negativity either, Barbaro needs positive energy.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 04:17 PM

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 4:37 PM

    I can't watch at work but thanks to everyone posting updates. Love Sweeney, Schakowsky and everyone fighing for us.

    Posted by: Skyler at September 7, 2006 4:38 PM

    Salazar eres un sin berguensa sin moral

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 4:38 PM

    SALAZAR is also saying the DEPT OF LAND MANAGEMENT will not be able to manage WILD HORSE POPULATIONS...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:38 PM

    Go Sweeney! He's not yielding to Salazar! I love it

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 4:38 PM

    ###

    Sweeney - says there is nothing stopping people from calling a vet and putting them down HUMANELY!! States, this is NOT humane!

    HAHAH he will not stop.. Just told the guy off and to use his own time!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 4:38 PM

    He needs to be sent for slaughter. God bless his horses. I'm getting all PO'd

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:38 PM

    It IS possible to have peace in the middle of a storm. Please try not to let yourselves become so upset by the "trash" we may hear. That energy gives power to our opponents!! Hold a vision of Divine Order and the highest good. Hold HR 503 in the Light.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 4:38 PM

    ####

    The good news is Salazar is making the opposition look like uncaring jerks.

    I have to leave soon and go take care of April. When is the vote?

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 4:39 PM

    REP SWEENEY (R) NY is rebutting previous arguments from those who are opposed the bill

    SALAZAR is countering

    SWEENEY WILL NO LONGER YIELD TIME TO SALAZAR TO REBUT...

    SWEENEY is now talking about the tax issue...
    how plants paid only $5 dollars in taxes..

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:41 PM

    Great article from the T-bred Times..right on the point and very relative to the new awareness of the very special "ordinary" people that live in our world that will embrace and comfort those, man or beast, that are hurt and troubled, and may not have a means to help themselves. Barbaro and those close to him, and Alex have changed lives forever...win or lose, they are changed for the better.

    Believe...always.

    Peg

    Posted by: Peg at September 7, 2006 4:42 PM

    I LOVE SWEENEY AND CAROLYN MALONEY FROM NY WHO JUST SPOKE ...

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 4:42 PM

    They are going right for the gut of emotion with truth.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:43 PM

    REP CAROLYN MALONEY (D) NY is speaking for the bill...

    Says meat goes to Foreign Countries...Americans do not view horses as FOOD

    Most beloved animals native to US...say public is AGAINST this practice...

    SAYS NO AMERICAN WOULD EAT HORSE MEAT...

    Says they are not necessarily rendered unconscious when slaughtered...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:44 PM

    Why does Salazar call himself a horseman when he is really a CATTLE rancher? There is a big trail of money going to these opponents - they don't care about the welfare of the horses because they are getting $$$$$. Wonder how many horses from his ranch he sends to the "rendering plant" and how much money a year he gets from that.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 4:45 PM

    New Yorkers...you can be proud of your Mr. Sweeney

    Posted by: ara at September 7, 2006 4:45 PM

    SWEENEY from NY is now listing groups in favor of bill...says method is not HUMAN is NOT EUTHANASIA
    Says previous picture was of HORSE IN TRANSPORT NOT AFTER SLAUGHTER...

    Says only 150 people would lose their jobs and are mostly here illegally

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:46 PM

    How can some of these people even use the word humanely in their discussions!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:47 PM

    ######
    Sorry I'm watching the debate but is there still time to call in to our reps about this? Or are all of them on the floor?

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 4:47 PM

    Pamela,
    Sweeney, was very powerful in what he had to say.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:47 PM

    HAYES' LIES ARE MAKING ME NAUSEOUS ... HE SHOULD BE SHIPPED AND SERVED AS DINNER IN FRANCE ...

    DINE ON A U.S. CONGRESSMEN ... "HAYES BERNAISE!!"

    LOLOL

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 4:48 PM

    REP COLLIN PERTERSON (D)Minnesota is saying American Quarterhorse Assoc is against this bill

    He is arguing with SWEENEY about People who rescue horses ....SWEENEY says people who rescue horses have DIFFERENT MIND SET and will transport horses more humanely..

    Peterson says horses will run rampant LIKE DOGS AND CATS

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:49 PM

    OK Salazar - if you are so worried about having the right to send your horse to slaughter if he breaks a leg - Maybe we want the right to send you to slaughter if YOU break your leg.

    SOYLENT GREEN

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 4:50 PM

    I know that I should listen to the opposition, but I can't. The opposition have had their way long enough.

    I really didn't like what Peterson (Ag Committee) said a few minutes ago about all of the horses being let loose in his state because there isn't a slaughter plant. Give me a break.

    Is that the only means to end a life?

    Steny Hoyer also decrying why we are talking about horses. It's not our fault that the Congress has done NOTHING.

    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:50 PM

    #
    Cathy Potter regarding post at 3:51 - "Why aren't the good, honest, compassionate people voted into office...."

    I think politics is a lot about power, gaining power, a disease this country seems to have. So, perhaps people with a bigger heart are not attracted to that world.

    I am amazed at the big hearts and open minds on this board, you are so FABULOUS!!!!

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 4:51 PM

    REP ROBIN HAYES (R) NC...is against HR503

    Says bill will burden local communities with sick, abused and unwanted horses...

    Also sites costs

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:51 PM

    Where did the guy Hoyer come from. He's totally off topic!! I didn't think they could do that

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:51 PM

    Steny Hoyer is not a co signer.

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:52 PM

    REP STENY HOYER (D) Maryland and Minority Leader
    says there are more important issues...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:52 PM

    Does Hoyer realize this has to do with horses. Where the heck is he? Dinner plate for him too.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:52 PM

    I LOVE SWEENEY!!!!

    Yo tiembien creo que SALAZAR es un sin berguensa sin moral! Que la migra se lo lleve!

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 4:52 PM

    Hoyer has found a way to completely segue' from the issue on the floor for his own agenda ...

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 4:53 PM

    POLITICAL COMMENTATION AHEAD....


    This is pure grandstanding

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:53 PM

    ########
    Rep Steny Hoyer says we should not be talking about the horse ban bill - that there are other things we should be focusing on. While I don't agree with him, of course, why would he be bringing this up now? It's already for debate and it's already on the House floor.

    I don't see how this can help either cause...or is relevant at all at this point

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 4:53 PM

    This is totally ridulous. What about all the legislation that has passed that has done more harm to people then this bill supposedly would.

    Here comes Whitfield!

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:54 PM

    Yes Mr. Hoyer the American People LOVE Horses.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 4:54 PM

    Sorry commentary...oopps...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:54 PM

    #######
    Neighs to Steny Hoyer D-MARYLAND.
    Is it a horses fault that five years have passed since 9/11 and Osama has not been captured. Is it a horses fault that appropriations for Katrina have not been properly distributed.
    Are we supposed to wait another DECADE? Hay, Steny, I am a taxpayer, too.
    If he would shut up, maybe they could get things done.
    S.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 4:54 PM

    LOL Socorro,

    Un berguensa para todos los latinos

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 4:54 PM

    Makes me upset that some are going away from the issue.. SLAUGHTER OF HORSES FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.. Just makes you want to get up and yell at those people.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 4:55 PM

    Marky - Si!

    I just realized I could turn this on my own TV! Dumb!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 4:55 PM

    Okay I have spent a lot of time in Peterson's state of Minnesota. I assure you horses are not running around loose like cats and dogs!

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 4:55 PM

    These pics are making me so upset

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 4:55 PM

    Sounds like the microphone is "crack" to Hoyer!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 4:56 PM

    ##### Marie in Atlanta, that is horrible about the puppy. I live in Gwinnett Co., haven't heard this one. We sure do have a lot of work to do with our four legged friends. It just sickens me when I hear things like this.

    Posted by: Sue H at September 7, 2006 4:56 PM

    THANK YOU, CHRIS SHAYS! He's a good man (I'm blue, he's red...he's still a class act!)...and a co-sponsor of this bill!

    I'm glad I can't watch at work...I'm getting really pi**ed just sneaking in occasionally to read posts!

    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at September 7, 2006 4:57 PM

    Dingell called it a non existent problem!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 4:59 PM

    REP WHITFIELD (R)
    Is speaking for the bill ...says business is illicit and inhumane

    IS SHOWING PICTURE OF HORSE IN TRANSPORT TO SLAUGHTERHOUSE

    Says 17 Stallions were packed into one trailer and were beaten into submission...

    Says Killers get horses anyway they can

    Horses cannot stand upright in trailers

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 4:59 PM

    I'm sick and tired of these guys coming up and talking about when a horse has outlived his usefulness. What to do about them? Horses are also members of a family. Seems to me I've heard this arguement about putting relatives in a home and then ignoring them for the remainder of their life.

    This is now how we should be valuing life.

    Ok. Off my soapbox.
    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 4:59 PM

    Lets go and light those candles for HR 503, we need to unite in flowing those Positive thoughts so we can get this bill sent through. Look what we have done so far for Barbaro, Fog and now this bill.


    We are the voices for those that can not speak.


    I am taking time to light a candle and send some prayers and such for this measure.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 4:59 PM

    ###
    Marie, I'm from Minnesota and I can assure you that horses are not running around here loose like cats and dogs.

    I must figure out which district this guy represents. I know he's not from mine.

    Believe in Miracles,
    Believe in Barbaro


    Becky and Chip

    Posted by: Becky at September 7, 2006 5:01 PM

    REP TOM OSBORNE (R) NEB...is speaking against the bill...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:01 PM

    Unbelievable Dingell.....

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 5:01 PM

    Well, everyone KNOWS that you can't put a bunch of ego-driven, testosterone-overlowing congressmen together ... BUT

    I think that's exactly what we SHOULD do ... cram them all together in a trailer and transport them to the cargo hold at the airport and shove them on a plane in ECONOMY, NO FRILLS CLASS, straight to Japan, France and Belgium ...

    and then SERVE THEM ALL NOT AS AN INDIVIDUAL ENTREE BUT AS ONE BIG SMORGASBORD ... HOW'S THAT FOR KILLING THEIR EGOS IN ONE FELL SWOOP!

    OH YEAH ... HERE IT IS ... GET YOUR BITE OUT OF CONGRESS ... DINE ON OUR SPECIAL 'HOUSE' BUFFET ... ALL YOU CAN EAT FOR ONLY $3.95 ... BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THESE OPPONENTS ARE WORTH!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:01 PM

    ###

    Whitfield...

    Gave the guys name Robbie Solomon from Mississippi, he is the man who packed stallions into a trailer for transport.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 5:02 PM

    Okay, I don't know that guy's name, the one who keeps yelling about why they're focusing on horses when there are so many other pressing issues. He says, "I'm concerned about horses." Yeah right! He says, "I'm concerned about the American people." Well bub, if you're sincerely concerned about the American people, then you not only should be concerned for our welfare, but also for what we WANT! And we WANT the slaughtering of our precious horses to STOP!!

    I'm getting SO angry. Glad I'm home alone so know one can hear me screaming at my television! I think I'm really losing it y'all!

    Posted by: Sandie at September 7, 2006 5:02 PM

    You know all people in your district do not oppose this bill Congressman Osborne. Guess my letter offered too little inspiration.

    I am truly disappointed.

    Posted by: TerryL at September 7, 2006 5:03 PM

    My comment is. If you can not support a horse for their whole life, then you should NOT have a horse. There are many great owners that have race horses and do think about what happens after the horse can not perform. There are options out there and some use them.

    If this passes, we need to unite in helping those keep these horses alive and happy. Hmmm Maybe there needs to be a rescue farm called Barbaro's Legacy and rescue. or something like that..


    I so wish I had the money to start a rescue/retirement place. but there are others out there and we need to be able to help them out..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:03 PM

    REP JOHN DINGELL (D) Michigan says bill is a triumph of emotion over common sense...says it is a solution to a NON EXISTANT problem
    Cites other problems as more important

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:03 PM

    I am with you Linnie.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 5:03 PM

    I love how these yahoos that oppose this bill put no responsibility on the owner to take care of their horses.

    The dude from NE - talking about people who own 30-40 horses that cannot afford to take care of them once they've outlived their usefulness. If you can afford 30-40 horses, then you can afford to take care of them in retirement! I just want to shake his teeth out of his head!!!

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 5:04 PM

    Go Gonzales!

    He's right - everything in our lives is legislated, so why not how we treat horses?

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 5:04 PM

    Right on Rep. Gonzalez! You tell em!!!

    Posted by: Sandie at September 7, 2006 5:04 PM

    ####

    Marky

    Estoy avergonzada que él lleva un nombre Hispánico

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 5:04 PM

    VIVA GONZALEZ DE TEXAS

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 5:04 PM

    Charles Gonzalez from Texas made some good points - it is not moral to slaughter horses it goes AGAINST the common norms of American society with regard for caring for horses

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 5:05 PM

    ####

    Becky I am grew up in Iowa and have relatives in Minnesota. I know this man is not telling the truth. My congressmen in Georgia are not much better but elections are coming and we can change this!!!

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 5:05 PM

    Rep. Gonzalea is right.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 5:05 PM

    I do not have a way to see what is going on at the hearings. For those of you who don't either
    you can type in the search window: u s house of representatives. Next click on the "United States House of Reps, 109tth Congress,2nd ...."
    Next click on "Currently on the house floor" and you will see HR503. Barbaro, this is it .
    Swing your tail. Lee in Ohio

    Posted by: Lee at September 7, 2006 5:05 PM

    #
    For those of us, including myself, who are disgusted with some of these politicaly swayed views about care of our animals, let us write to these politicians after this, no matter the outcome and express our feelings. It would be very therepeutic!

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 5:06 PM

    Ya sabes come son esas cosas, le combiene politicamente

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 5:06 PM

    #####

    Marky,

    Viva Gonzalez, pero no Salazar!!!

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 5:07 PM

    REP GONZALEZ TX...
    Says Congress should pass laws that represent the will of the people and our standards...
    Is for the bill..
    Says horses have unique place in our country...
    Says that consequences of bill can be dealt with...
    This bill is in keeping with previous legislation that treat the horses properly...
    Says the property rights issue is not valid...
    Says the entire process is not in keeping with the established norms and values in our laws

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:08 PM

    THIS GUY BELONGS ON A BLUE PLATE SPECIAL

    CHICKEN ALA STEVE KING!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:08 PM

    Goodlatte is probably getting a few thousand, even million, for these slaughter houses. Maybe the foreign corps are paying him off to voice for them. Amazing. There is always something more to a politicians fierce fight against something so obvious and inhumane...

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 5:09 PM

    I LOVE ED WHITFIELD ... WINNER WHITFIELD!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:09 PM

    Yes Socorro ,
    thank God for Gonzalez

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 5:09 PM

    This Peterson from MN is obnoxious!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:10 PM

    Whoever posted that they are home going nuts. My "truck driver" languaguage is alive and well.

    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 5:10 PM

    ########

    To all of you providing the information - thank you from those of us who can't access the hearings.

    Just wondering - are they going to vote soon or even today? Is there any possibility this could be postponed?

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 5:10 PM

    REP WHITFIELD from KY is addressing specific concern about what would happen to all of the horses...only 1% of horses are being slaughtered
    Says many of horses are NOT unwanted...are often
    stolen or misrepresented to sellers

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:10 PM

    I THINK WE OUGHT TO BUTCHER PETERSON AND ROAST HIM ... OVER HOT COALS ... AND THEN SERVE HIM TO THE HORSES!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:11 PM

    GREAT comment on the Quarter Horse breeders. Need to stop breeding so many.. They are right the breeders need to take some responibilities also. You don't see that many Tbreds being breed

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:11 PM

    I was told the vote WOULD be today. But not until later around 5 or 6PM

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:11 PM

    Peterson just said we can eat our horses!!!!
    Well Thank You Sir, what about my dog or kitties?

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 5:11 PM

    REP KING (R) IOWA

    Says meat from horses does not present public health risk....is against the bill
    Says some horses are raised for meat (????)
    Says carcasses are an environmental concern
    Says horses moved to adoption facilities are crowded and cannot contain horses
    Says horses are eating our SOURCE OF ETHANOL

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:12 PM

    REP WHITFIELD KY
    Says AQA has responsibility to regulate breeding in its industry

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:13 PM

    ####
    Osborne is from my state. I am truly disappointed in him.

    Posted by: Skyler at September 7, 2006 5:13 PM

    I love how Whitfield brought up that the AQHA as being hugely guilty of over breeding and asks where their responsibilities lie? Good for you! Why should horses pay the ultimate price for human stupidity and irresponsibility?

    Posted by: Sandie at September 7, 2006 5:13 PM

    Yes, thank you (as Janice said) for providing information..

    and I Linnie comment "I THINK WE OUGHT TO BUTCHER PETERSON AND ROAST HIM ... OVER HOT COALS ... AND THEN SERVE HIM TO THE HORSES!!!"

    Posted by: lynnette at September 7, 2006 5:13 PM

    Alex

    Thank you for allowing us to post about what is going on. Please if it looks like it is getting too "hot" let us know !!!!!!!

    We appreciate what is going on..

    Just please guys not too much political bashing :)

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:14 PM

    LOVED WALTER JONES' COMMENTS ... HE MOVED ME.

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:14 PM

    REP PETERSON (D) Minnesota against bill
    Says it is not illegal to eat horse meat
    Says there is regulation of horse transportation
    cites fines for improper transportation of horses

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:15 PM

    Okay everyone I have to go take care of my beautiful horse, April.

    I am saying my prayers for HR503 and all horses.

    Posted by: marie from atl at September 7, 2006 5:15 PM

    GO BETTY SHOUT!!! Go MR. JONES!!! I sent an email to him. I am sure he received a few! That was awesome and well point.

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 5:16 PM

    Why don't they mention horses as therapy?

    Thanks.
    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 5:16 PM

    Walter Jone and who is speaking now could not get his name, Class Acts! Great comments.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 5:17 PM

    ##########

    Thanks ShelleyA

    I have somewhere to go and won't get home until about 5:00 - thankfully that should be in time for the vote.

    My heart is racing - talk about stress!!!!

    Horse Hands Across America

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at September 7, 2006 5:17 PM

    Walter Jones read a letter he got from one of his constituents who wanted this bill passed - so we are heard - lets keep pushing our reps on this - they do listen. :)

    Stay positive. Stay strong.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 5:17 PM

    Carolyn Maloney has an excellent record with animal and environmental issues.

    she is MY rep. Good for Sweeney too.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at September 7, 2006 5:18 PM

    REP WALTER JONES (R) NC

    Letter from Betty Shout(?) says it caused him to be moved to call her

    WHAT A WONDERFUL LETTER

    Says horses deserve better than to wind up on dinner plates in Belgium and France

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:18 PM

    It is "okay" to say you disagree with a person there but I would ask for the sake of not starting a political/emotional battle not to speak of things like feeding the guy to a horse, bashing him over the head.

    People I can not STRESS this enough, There are "eyes" watching us, and we need to keep a level head and show our support, not bashing them or talking like that. I know there has been some officials that have visited this site and the forum to gain some knowledge.


    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:19 PM

    PAM reported:

    >>REP JOHN DINGELL (D) Michigan says bill is a triumph of emotion over common sense...says it is a solution to a NON EXISTANT problem>>

    Well, maybe a bolt driven into his head might be seen as no problem, but THERE IS A PROBLEM, DINGELL. Idiot.

    Posted by: Christine at September 7, 2006 5:19 PM

    Why today of all days are people requiring my attention here a work. I have better things to do that take care of their needs.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 5:19 PM

    This is definitely NOT a political issue. It is totally bi-partisen.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:19 PM

    That bit about the Secy of Ag taking a sore horse is an amendment that can be removed?

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 5:20 PM

    It just seems political because so many reps against this bill are from TX

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:21 PM

    SHOULD WE 'PRICK' Mr. THORNberry????????

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:21 PM

    If you feel you are getting too emotional and wanting to post those things, One take a moment before you hit post.

    2. Find their contact information and send them a email/letter/ call and let you know what you think.. but not on here..


    I am off the band wagon but I was getting concerned with some of the comments.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:21 PM

    REP RAHALL (D) West VA

    Speaks in favor of the bill...points out horses place in American history and tradition

    Says practice is ghastly but lucrative

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:21 PM

    The letter Jones (NC) read was from a woman in Illinois!! Yes, not even one of his district! Honorable man.

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at September 7, 2006 5:22 PM

    ###

    Missed the name affiliation and location of the man with grey hair who was soft spoken and quick, but FOR it. TY

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 5:22 PM

    This is not about OLD HORSES. The facts are many, many horses are young, healthy horses.

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 5:22 PM

    Peterson is not from my district either. I believe he's the Duluth area, I think.
    My guy is Gil Gutknecht............

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at September 7, 2006 5:22 PM

    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOO

    GOODLATTE HAS THE CLOSING WORDS ...

    THAT'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:22 PM

    Pam
    What about the amendments. Thought they were going to hear them first. Guess they will do amendments next and then a final debate on the bill to be voted for

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:23 PM

    REP CONOWAY (R) Texas is against the bill

    Talks about how much he loves horses...SAYS THEY ARE NOT PETS

    Says this is attack on owners property rights

    Sees nothing wrong with slaughter...uses graphic language about CHOPPING UP HORSES

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:23 PM

    Bobbie B.
    Thanks for your thoughts... I did not mean to express a partisan view but one in which encourages voters to work or elect people who represent humane causes. Since I have a passion for the environment as well as animals, I would like to see representatives who stand in support of saving our land and protecting all creatures. I do not expressly believe or say that either all Democrats or all Republicans are stand together on the same side for all issues. I also can respect thoughtful disagreement, and vote independently. As all of us who have made calls realize that there are a mixture of both parties in support the H.R. 503 bill. I did not mean to offend anyone , and hope we all can communicate in a positive way in sharing the common bond of a love for animals.
    Let's hope the bill passes!!

    Posted by: Lorraine at September 7, 2006 5:23 PM

    Shelley...I am so busy I haven't had a chance to think about it...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:24 PM

    Mary L Ohio - I so agree with you that everyone should keep their cool and not bash the politicians. The only way to influence politicians is via the ballot box. Calling them names does nothing.

    Posted by: Anita at September 7, 2006 5:25 PM

    It just seems political because so many reps against this bill are from TX

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 05:21 PM

    Shelley, I noticed this, too, yesterday, but I think it's just because they have 2 slaughterhouses there, and they are 'afraid' that it might spill over into their own cattle livestock ... the domino effect. I don't agree, but I think that's how they're viewing this issue ...

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:25 PM

    Farr from CA....great!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:25 PM

    Yeah California!!!!

    Posted by: cathy potter at September 7, 2006 5:25 PM

    Not to bash anyone - but Thornberry (TX) is mentioning personal property as well as how hard it is to see an old horse who cannot stand in a pasture - and saying that is inhumane.

    What he doesn't realize is - at that point, any horse owner (and I know I'm taking a liberty here) would probably euthanize the horse through a veterinarian at that point rather then see him or her suffer so so badly in the field.

    Ryan


    (He just started talking but Farr just mentioned that change the debate to cats and dogs and not horses for human consumption and he said he'd strongly think that there would be no debate at all if it were cats and dogs - Go Farr!)

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 5:25 PM

    REP THORNBERRY (R) TX is against the bill

    Says old horses in field suffer...and do not die peacefully

    Says it is more humane to slaughter bill would result in more abuse and neglect
    Also brings up Private Property Rights

    Compares horses to fish in aquarium!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:26 PM

    There are approx 13 minutes left for this debate...

    WHITFIELD is RESERVING his time SO HE CAN GO LAST

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:27 PM

    I LOVE MARK FOLEY FROM MY HOMESTATE OF FL ... YOU GO, MARK .... LOVE U!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:27 PM

    REP STEARNS (R) FL (darn) is against the bill

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:28 PM

    WHITFIELD is RESERVING his time SO HE CAN GO LAST

    OK, PAMMIE ... HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT ... I DIDN'T KNOW IF HE HAD ANY TIME LEFT!! THANKS!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:28 PM

    Sending out some major prayers for the passing of the anti-slaughter bill today. Please Lord, let all those voting, vote yes to save our beloved horses. Please, please, please.....

    Posted by: Karen in Las Vegas at September 7, 2006 5:28 PM

    The practice of stuffing money in the pockets of the likes of Goodlatte is most likely not foreign entities, but rather the slaughter supporting American organizations (AQHA, APHA) for which the slaughter houses serve at the pleasure of (sic).
    Foreign ownership of horse slaugher facilities in the US is not accidental.

    Posted by: TerryL at September 7, 2006 5:28 PM

    REP FARR (D) CA is speaking for bill
    Says CA has had this as a law already and things are fine

    Says you could pose same arguments to cats and dogs

    Says bill is RIGHT

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:29 PM

    Mary L Ohio - I agree with you.

    We should make a list of those against the bill and vote them out of office.

    Can we write in Barbaro? LOL He is much much smarter.

    Posted by: Louise in Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:29 PM

    ######
    Mac Thornberry R-Texas.
    Passage of this bill will result in more abuse, more neglect.

    Nonsense, people who abuse horses are going to do it anyway.

    Cliff Sterns R-Fl
    HR503 does not solve the problem. It is a property rights issue and if passed we need to know who is going to pay for it.

    Sam Farr D-Calif
    I don't think anyone has read this bill. This has been the law in California for year. What if we were talking about cats and dogs? Slaughterers do not buy sick horses, they buy fresh horses for human consumption. That is wrong, THIS BILL IS RIGHT.
    Mark Foley R-FL
    Horses hold special place. Today we are able to appreciate them in a variety of different venues.
    We do not allow horsemeat to be eaten here.
    According to USDA 90% arriving are in good condition. Bill responds to American concern.
    Collin Peterson-D-MN
    Bill is a bad deal. Defeated by Ag committee and we represent rural horse owners. Main reason I am against this bill is this is not the way to do business in Congress. We have many more pressing issues and this offends me. This is the wrong way to run this institution and the best reason not to pass this legislations. We should be passing legislation to help people wiped out in 05 and 06.

    S.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 5:29 PM

    I apologize if I spoke inappropriately at any time during this debate.

    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 5:30 PM

    And what about all the horses that get wiped out? grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 5:30 PM

    Good morning ~ PST...aside from the political atmosphere...THANK YOU, Alex, for your posts...

    especially liked 'Michael Matz visited Barbaro last evening and he said all was WELL...It was a stunning sunrise this morning with a layer of mist coming up out of the ground.'[how relaxing sounding!] and; Ray Paulick, editor-in-chief of Bloodhorse 'Equine surgeon Dean Richardson and the staff ...will win the 2006 Eclipse Award of Merit. No one is more DESERVING...work done in the hours and days following Barbaro's devastating injury...was REMARKABLE'

    THANK YOU.

    PRAY FOR BARBARO AND ALL THOSE WHO LOVE AND CARE FOR HIM.

    PRAY FOR LITF AND ALL THOSE WHO LOVE AND CARE FOR HIM.

    PRAY FOR GOD'S CREATURES, great & small.

    Posted by: Jill--in No.Calif. at September 7, 2006 5:30 PM

    Mary L

    Can you clarify or quantify or qualify your statement about "eyes" watching us.

    A website is free to express what ever political view it wishes. That is part of internet free speech. The internet is not regulated with the exception of child pornography. There are websites where they describe how to take down the gov't.

    Again, if your fear is TMR will be injured in any way from political talk, I don't see how that can happen.

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at September 7, 2006 5:31 PM

    REP MARK FOLEY (R) FL
    is speaking for the bill

    Talks of horses importance to our country

    Horsemeat is not allowed in this country and most horses slaughtered are in good condition

    Bill recognizes strong American concern for horses and he submits rest of his remarks to the record

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:31 PM

    How can Conoway say he loves horses in one breath and then talk about how positive it is to chop them up in another - maybe for his wallet?


    Horses are pets, too. My Friend Flicka.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 5:31 PM

    I can't *believe* some of these people. Agribusiness is a big business! Dingell - maybe you'd rather vote on the flagburning amendment, instead of actually saving peoples' stolen horses, companions and pets. Tons of bills waste time. In fact, I'm guessing, MOST bills wasete time, so they don't have to face any of the important issues.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 5:31 PM

    REP PETERSON (D) Minnesota argues that CA REP statement about horses being fine there is disputed by an (unnamed) source

    Reiterates those opposed to bill

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:33 PM

    Mary L Ohio - I so agree with you that everyone should keep their cool and not bash the politicians. The only way to influence politicians is via the ballot box. Calling them names does nothing.

    Posted by: Anita at September 7, 2006 05:25 PM

    Anita, I agree in that we shouldn't take a political stance in this issue ... but I am being completely NON PARTISAN HERE ...

    I AM BASHING EVERYONE AGAINST THIS BILL AND, THEREFORE, BARBARO AND HIS PEOPLE ... POLITICS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS FOR ME ... I LOVE ALL WHO ARE VOTING FOR THE BILL AND HAVING SOME LIGHT-HEARTED FUN WITH ALL THOSE OPPOSED TO THE BILL.

    I THINK I AM SAFE IN SAYING THAT EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW IS 'FOR' THIS BILL SO THERE ARE NO ARGUMENTS OR DEBATES TO BE WAGED AT ALL!!!

    But I do agree that this should not become a political 'hotcake' and, therefore, I am not mentioning any party affiliation in any of my posts about the remarks of these congressmen/women. I believe in 'fair play' at Fair Hill today! LOLOL

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:33 PM

    ALEX ~~

    looking forward to your update re Michael's visit to BARBARO this afternoon...

    all's well- stay positive in all things.

    Posted by: Jill--in No.Calif. at September 7, 2006 5:33 PM

    Jazz, I know "eyes" are watching as I have talked about TWR in many emails to reporters, politicians, etc.

    I agree with Mary L that we don't want to come off as a bunch of nuts but professional and rational people.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 5:34 PM

    ##

    I know things are emotional. Here is what I am doing when I see someone that is making remarks I do not care for.. I am writing down the names and finding the contact information and will be emailing them on what I think of it.


    Just remember we are the voices and need to represent them well. Not with off cuff remarks or cruel sayings. Just not what we should be doing..

    I just don't want to see alex getting concerned and shutting the comments down for all of us.

    Now I am stepping away and watching the process.

    We are learning how things work in government and we have the power to change things, we have seen that in the last few days and weeks. We have been heard! Grasp on those that are for us!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:34 PM

    The House is debating HR 503 right at this moment. If we ever needed a vigil, it's all day today and focused on Wash DC. Our love for Barbaro can do it for all horses.

    Posted by: Dale at September 7, 2006 5:35 PM

    REP SCHAKOWSKY (D) Illinois points to groups who take in these horses...

    Is very upset about opposition claims that so many groups are against the bill...points out HSUS etc CARE ABOUT HORSES

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:36 PM

    WHAT TIME IS ACTUAL VOTE???? I'm working and can't listen to debate...you are all so "lucky" to hear what's going on...
    If vote is late enough, I'll go home early and work late tomorrow...

    THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at September 7, 2006 5:37 PM

    THEY ARE WINDING DOWN THE ARGUMENTS

    I think Mr. Whitfield is using his remaining time now...says there is Federal Pre-emption involved and US GOVT must act...Urges support for bill

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:37 PM

    NANCY IN CT.....THEY HAVEN"T VOTED YET

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:37 PM

    GOODLATTE GETS THE LAST WORD AND IS NOW CONCLUDING THE DEBATE WITH HIS REMARKS

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:38 PM

    General debate is over. Now they are doing amendments. They have 5 minutes on each side for each amendment

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:38 PM

    Over 500 institutions support this bill, and this is disrespectful to them. They are not mistaken in their support of this legislation.

    Whitfield:
    State of Tx has been trying to close these SHs for years. A lawsuit has been filed, but the foreign owners won because this is a interstate commerce issue. Lack of action by AG committee caused it to be sent to Energy Committee.
    Breeders and owners have responsibility.
    This bill protects Private Property rights, as it will stop horses from being stolen, and that is a PP right.
    Goodlatte:
    Ag committee voted this down, 200 orgs are against it AAEP, AQHA, every state council that has taken a stance on this issue has opposed it.
    This will place a significant burden on horse owners and does not say what will happen to the 90000 horses. HR503 provides no alternatives.
    Influx of unwanted horses will flood the unregulated, overburdened horse rescue operations.
    The shelters cannot possibly accomidate these horses and it infringes on PP rights.
    By eliminating this option we are eliminating the right of responsible owner to choose their own option.

    S.
    Seems to me like they only have two arguments. Amendments now.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 5:39 PM

    I know I am too late to comment on that Jack Ass Salazar (I am embarassed to say that he represents Colorado), BUT, what kills me is that he markets himself here in the state as this rancher man. Well, asshole, take a look around our state and see all of the beautiful open space that you vote to develop. Then you have the balls to say that there is nowhere to put all of these horses. GET A GRIP!!!!

    OK, sorry for my little outburst here but these people are SUCH hypocrits!!!

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 5:39 PM

    Let us not argue, we are all in this with the same common goal, the same prayers, the same ending that we want.

    We are unified around Barbaro and we unified to fight for horses - the very animals that bring us all the joy that they can every single moment of every one of each of their lives. We all want the same outcome today and we all are fighting for the horses we love.

    Let us not forget what brought us here - Barbaro. And if he could speak, he would say:

    Everyone, stand together, do not fight, for we have to stand together and fight for all of my brothers and sisters, not with each other.

    Stay strong, stay positive. Believe in miracles. Believe, in Barbaro.

    Ryan

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 5:40 PM

    *****
    I am sorry...I cannot listen to this guy and will not relay the same old, tired pro-slaughter rhetoric that they spew every day...

    If I am biased...SO BE IT

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:40 PM

    Please God let these Reps. wake up and see the light!

    Can someone please tell me if and when the voting will be done?

    What if any think did Hart, Murphy, or Murtha say about the bill? I'm at work and cant's get c span.

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at September 7, 2006 5:40 PM

    Waiting for a good update, but confident all is well with Barbaro. Have been uneasy all day with the HR 503 vote happening, and apparently there is more opposition than I personally anticipated. Pollyanna syndrome? Thanks to all for all that you have done to try to end the madness.

    #############

    The poem posted yesterday by Alex, the Plea for HR 503, is magnificent. Whoever did it and does not even want credit, I salute you. I would love to know whose work it is, but its creator's voluntary anonymity is part of its charm, for me.

    Though I finally am able to VIEW the TWF, I still cannot log on so as to be able to POST there. So please bear with me if I post something that is not related to Barbaro. It is about the late, great Steve Irwin, whose freakish death was reported by Alex in an update up top.

    Just got a special email from Animal Planet, including lots of special scheduling, and wanted to pass on the info. Unscheduled Croc Hunter programming the rest of the week, and all Saturday afternoon. Check your listings or Animal Planet website. He was truly an advocate for the animals; what a guy. (In a separate post I will attempt to post a link to the Animal Planet Video tribute, which just had me in tears. Always have a problem getting long links to post here.)

    HOPE PEACE LOVE & MUSIC - CJ the craziest catlady (Blackie's Mother & Pleasure's Aunt) in Hammond IN, f/k/a CJ of T Bar J (Elgin IL)

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at September 7, 2006 5:41 PM

    ###


    WOW people, look at the "hits" this site has had!


    http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=sm6timwoolley&r=0

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:42 PM

    SWEENEY is saying that you should vote against the amendments if you are for the bill

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:42 PM

    Edie - no need to apologize. But I really feel that the ballot box is the most expressive tool that can be used. These politicians only respond to that. How else can they be in power and line their pockets?

    Posted by: Anita at September 7, 2006 5:42 PM

    ###########

    Link to Animal Planet video tribute to Steve Irwin. (several short pieces; very moving and inspirational)

    http://animal.discovery.com/beyond/player.html?bclid=212352045

    CJ in Hammond IN

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at September 7, 2006 5:42 PM

    TLC Laura in Colorado, Please write to this Colorado rep., tell him how you feel!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 5:43 PM

    summary by hour and such. amazing!!!


    http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=sm6timwoolley&r=25

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:43 PM

    Sweeney is awesome!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 5:44 PM

    Ryan

    You are right. Today is just a very emotional day and people are venting. I think no one means harm. We are all here for the same thing.

    It's very hard to stay calm when listening to some of the things said but we must stay focused.

    I, personally, am VERY worried about this being passed. Up until today, we only heard from people with our own views. This is frightening.

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:44 PM

    Hi

    I just want to say that I admire & respect all of Barbaro's caretakers. Without God & all of you, Barbaro would not have had a chance to survive. A big thanks to Alex on all the updates.

    Keep strong in spirit dearest Barbaro! I love you because you are one of God's creatures and not because you won the race. You deserve every chance to continue to live a healthy, happy life!

    May God Bless You, Barbaro & All Animal Lovers!

    Always in my Prayers.

    Sincerely,
    Another Animal Lover,
    Carol, Montreal, Quebec, Canada

    Posted by: Carol Waterman at September 7, 2006 5:44 PM

    Secretly, I love the politician bashing, what can I say! If I were let loose, I'd probably be worse than anything on here!

    Posted by: Anita at September 7, 2006 5:45 PM

    Well said Ryan

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 5:45 PM

    #####
    Bonnie,
    I intend to without question.

    SORRY TO ALL IF I GOT A LITTLE BIT OVER-ZEALOUS THERE ON MY SOAPBOX ABOUT SALAZAR. IT JUST ABSOLUTLEY INFURIATES ME.

    my apolgies :(
    Laura

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 5:45 PM

    SWEENEY adds that the amendment to the bill is just a measure to get the bill defeated

    The same people I have reported as speaking are basically stating their positions again...

    Those FOR the bill are AGAINST the amendment
    Those AGAINST the bill are FOR the amendment

    The supporters of HR503 say the amendment would KILL THE BILL OR RENDER IT INEFFECTIVE

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:45 PM

    Sweeney
    Amendments are here to destroy the bill. Each year 900000 horses are slaughtered.
    These horses will become pets, showhorses and adopted to replace ones that have become ill , or die from old age, can be absorbed back into the populations.

    Peterson:
    Repeating himself.

    Whitfield:
    We have orgs around the country to provide safe haven, this amendment is basically a killer amendment to defeat HR503. Many of these horse are stolen, they are not unwanted horses. Urge every member to oppose amendment
    (they are talking amendment 2)

    S

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 5:46 PM

    TLC, sounds like Salazar has many friends with deep pockets?????

    Developers love the politicos.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 5:46 PM

    TLC(Laura)

    We need a letter writing campaign to the newspapers all over the state - with the copy of the bill, the pros and cons and how our reps voted. All of us here in CO need to do this. John (like Ken) are pompous twits - I am so sorry I voted for Ken (John is SW CO).

    I'd be willing to bet, the people in SW CO do not even know that this bill exists nor how their elected official voted. Most of the people I have spoken to at work had no idea that horses were being slaughtered.

    We need to get rid of the Salazars - if the bill goes to the Senate, Ken will vote with John.

    We need to alert Coloradans about this bill and let each person decide for themselves.

    I plan to put in the url for the slaughter video. I don't believe you cannot make a decision for slaughter until you have seen it done.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 5:46 PM

    I just had an idea, and I don't know if it's been brought up before but here it is.

    I'm hearing that those who are opposed to HR 503 are largely saying the passing of the bill will cause more neglect and abuse of horses and require the tax payers to pay for unwanted horses' care, and that horse rescue organizations and sanctuaries are already over burdened and would not be able to handle the influx of horses were slaughter to be banned.

    We have many animal cruelty laws already in place all across this country. If these laws were stringently applied to owners who are neglecting, abusing or abandoning their horses with substantial fines levied against them, then maybe owners and organizations guilty of over breeding would stop these unethical practices and private owners would think twice about purchasing horses they cannot afford, or neglecting or abandoning them. I'm talking hefty fines since money seems to be the only thing that gets people's attention these days. Then the monies accrued from these fines could be exclusively put into some type of account that goes strictly for funding horse rescue organizations and sanctuaries.

    I know this is pretty basic but maybe it could be the start of something. What do you all think? And by all means, please suggest what you think can make it better as I'm no expert on this.

    Posted by: Sandie at September 7, 2006 5:47 PM

    OK I think GOODLATTE let slip part of what the AMENDMENT REQUIRES...

    CERTIFICATION THAT THERE ARE SUFFICIENT RECUE CENTERS FOR THE HORSES THAT WILL BE SAVED

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:47 PM

    Whitfield just mentioned that many horses are stolen and sent to slaughter.

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 5:47 PM

    Goodlatte keeps using the word "unwanted" horses.
    That's just not true but that's what people will hear

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:47 PM

    Even in my small borough we have a developer who is buying up and trying to own the town. His best pal was the PREVIOUS president of our council who coincidentally was also a real estate agent.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 5:48 PM

    Shelly A,
    Goodlatte bothers me.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 5:48 PM

    TO SHELLEY A AND ALL OTHER BARBAROMANIACS,

    WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. I HAVEN'T COMMENTED UNTIL NOW BECAUSE IT'S TOO EMOTIONAL. IF I COULD FIND A WAY, I TOO WOULD TAKE ALL 90,000 HORSES. THIS IS UNAMERICAN.

    Posted by: Debra, WI at September 7, 2006 5:48 PM

    According to the Washington Watch web site (ultra conservative) it would cost every family in America $2.01 a year to pay for this.

    I will personally cover 50 families

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 5:48 PM

    Looks like the no's have it! Wait. This is so confusing.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 5:49 PM

    I CANNOT BELIEVE GOODLATTE'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF A HORSE BEING ABOUT 25 YEARS AND THAT MANY OF THEM HAVE MANY YEARS LEFT ... SO WE SHOULD KILL THEM BECAUSE OF THIS?

    OK ... TURN ABOUT IS FAIR PLAY ... I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY CONGRESSMEN WITH MANY YEARS LEFT IN THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY ... SO, SHOULD WE ROUND THEM UP AND GET RID OF THEM FOR LACK OF SPACE IN OUR CEMETERIES, MAUSOLEUMS AND CREMATORIES?

    OH PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ, GOODLATTE ... THAT IS SO BAD!!

    BUT ... REMEMBER THAT MOVIE WITH REDFORD AND FONDA ... "THEY SHOOT HORSES, DON'T THEY?"

    UNFORTUNATELY .... YES, THEY DO, AND SOME MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ACTUALLY SUPPORT THIS!!

    I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I'M HEARING OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:49 PM

    Goodlatte makes it sounds like we'll all be trampled by hordes of horses if we don't slaughter them.

    Do they really think that we, the people are that dumb?

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 5:49 PM

    They are now moving to the next AMENDMENTS
    GOODLATTE has requested they not be discussed

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:50 PM

    Did I just understand that right...Goodlatte is not entering his other amendments????

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:50 PM

    Debra WI. . So would I... I would love to have a rescue farm for horses. A place to retire from racing, showing, etc. I can almost envision that and see all those happy horses. That we helped /saved from being slaughtered.

    who knows, maybe this will be our next Barbaro Effect.. finding ways to rescue and care for those horses..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 5:50 PM

    #####
    LindaH, I am with you on that. Any ideas how we can organize something to get the word out??

    Let me know how I can help. I'm sure that Deborah A. and Cheryl Jones would get behind an effort like that as well.

    It just is sooooo hypocritical of all of them to live in a state where we advertise and take pride in our western, cowboy heritage and then have reps that promote slaughtering animals that represent those very values. GRRRRRRRR

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 5:50 PM

    The next AMENDMENT discussed pertains to an exemption for NATIVE AMERICANS who consume horsemeat...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:51 PM

    I think they just voted NO for the first amendment that undermined the whole bill itself....or there were more no's than yes's

    but I think they will have to count it - not 100% sure how this works

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 5:51 PM

    ShellyA - if Goodlatte is not, then he must believe he will win.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 5:51 PM

    TLC Laura in Colorado, You didn't offend me I just thought with that much passion directed at one of the non-believers would be indeed powerful!

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 5:52 PM

    #######

    I can tell you right now that the BARBAROMANIACS would gladly support a rescue shelter for horses...

    AM I WRONG?

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 5:52 PM

    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    KING JUST SAID THAT MANY EUROPEAN COUNTRIES EAT HORSEMEAT TODAY ... AND THEN HE SAID SOMETHING SO PROFOUNDLY IGNORANT ...

    HE SAID ... "AND MANY OF THEM HAVE RECIPES TODAY!"

    WHAT THE HE%%%%% KIND OF A$$ININE COMMENT WAS THAT????????????????

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:52 PM

    Yes I think that they did vote to not mention the other amendments....but now they are going onto the 2nd? I don't understand. Maybe I heard wrong.

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 5:52 PM

    THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY THAT A % RACING PURSE MONEY AND ALL OTHER ASSOCIATED TO RACING COULD GO TOWARD A NATIONAL RETIREMENT FOR THOROUGHBREDS?

    Posted by: Debra, WI at September 7, 2006 5:53 PM

    SO, EVEN IF THESE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES 'DO' EAT HORSEMEAT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT 'WE' HAVE TO, LITERALLY, SERVE IT ON A PLATE TO THEM?

    THEY WANT HORSEMEAT ... LET THEM FIND AND SLAUGHTER THEIR OWN HORSES!!! WE SHOULD NOT BE THE SUPPLIER FOR THEIR BARBARIC DELICACIES!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:54 PM

    Steve King - what a creep. Want to share your recipes with us? I'd like to cook him!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 5:54 PM

    if they just 'have' to slaughter horses, a bullet would be quicker, cleaner, and kinder.

    that said, no one 'has' to slaughter horses.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 7, 2006 5:54 PM

    Just to let you guys know, sometimes the Senate, in my experience, can be counted on to be more progressive on some subjects. This bill may do better there.....we'll see.

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 5:54 PM

    I think they will vote on the amendments and then the passage of the bill all at once.
    They always do a voice vote first and then a rep will request the neys and yeas. After that request, they usually do all of the voting together.
    Hang tough all!!
    jan

    Posted by: Jan at September 7, 2006 5:54 PM

    You're not wrong Pamela! I know the Barbaromaniacs would support a horse rescue shelter!

    Posted by: Sandie at September 7, 2006 5:54 PM

    This guy King sponsored this amendment.
    Goodlatte said he wouldn't mention the rest of HIS amendments. And all the rest are his

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:54 PM

    King told us about recipes for horse beef

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 5:55 PM

    #####
    Thank you Bonnie. I never want to upset anyone here. I think we are ALL very passionate people and sometimes anger and frustration is a by-product of passion.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 5:55 PM

    Steve King - what a creep. Want to share your recipes with us? I'd like to cook him!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 05:54 PM

    EXACTLY! CHICKEN ALA STEVE KING!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:55 PM

    Debra, I agree. I had an idea the other day that 1 or 2 dollars be dontated per all bets made at a racetrack or admission/whatever or any competition where horses are raced, shown, or jump, etc to the rescue of retired horses. I think that would be reasonable and I would think the horse community would support that...

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 5:56 PM

    TLC(Laura) and any other Coloradans that want to get involved:

    e-mail me at lhayte@yahoo.com and we will come up with exactly what we want to say, then have a mass mailing. Also to the TV stations.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 5:57 PM

    Just to let you guys know, sometimes the Senate, in my experience, can be counted on to be more progressive on some subjects. This bill may do better there.....we'll see.

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 05:54 PM

    BONNIE ... You are probably right, BUT if this bill does NOT pass through the House today, there IS NO SENATE DEBATE AND VOTE!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 5:57 PM

    Another point our side doesn't seem to be jumping all over is the environmental hazard aspect the opponents have brought up several times. They keep harping about how toxic it would be for private owners to bury their own horses. What about numerous enviromental laws the slaughterhouses are breaking every day? I remember just reading that one was even going to be temporarily shut down due to these types of violations! What hypocrisy!

    Posted by: Sandie at September 7, 2006 5:58 PM

    #####
    Linda H.,
    What part of Colorado are you in?? Also do you know where Deborah A. and Cheryl Jones are located?

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 5:59 PM

    Moran compared the horse to the eagle. That was good

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 5:59 PM

    Unfortunately, the Hopis get to kill the eagle for their religion. They are the exception.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 5:59 PM

    I know this has likely been discussed, but I've only been able to pop in and out occasionally today...

    when is the vote?

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 7, 2006 5:59 PM

    I live in Humboldt County, northern California and we have a very active horse rescue group and in fact I got a horse from one of these groups years ago. They show up with their rescued horses at animal faires where people can see the animals and become acquainted. Some of the horses would be good trail horses, some of them might need a lot of work/training.

    Seems to me irresponsible breeding plays a big factor in this.

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at September 7, 2006 6:00 PM

    Amendment 4
    Cultural exemption for native americans.
    King:
    Native americans are not the only ones that eat horses. People who support this bill have a romantic idea. We don't have an aversion to beef.

    Sweeney:
    Two statements by Great Plains tribes. This amendment would encourage the moving of the slaughter facilities to Indian reservations.
    This amendment would say the French /Belgiums can continue because it is a part of their culture.

    King:
    Many tribal members raise and sell horses. Raise and sell horses for human consumptions. This would take away the Native Americans Property rights...and they have RECIPES!!!!

    King again:
    We have never told anyone to go against their culture. This amendment says to AI that we accept your beliefs as part of our American Culture and traditional values.

    Moran:
    I oppose because this is not about Native Americans, it is about creating a loophole. We cannot be a nation that reduces to dollars and cents. When you see a horse, that is not commodity, that is a source of inspiration. We have depended upon the horse , look at our monuments, look at the monument in front of the cap, it's a HORSE. We need to be inspired by some things , and this amendment guts this bill. Listen to Americans, no one wants it, no one eats it. We've been tied to the horse and eagle, american symbols....a source of inspiration.
    This is about preserving a symbol. We cannot allow the kind of slaughtering that takes place.They don't want infirmed, old lame horses, so many of these arguments have been false arguments.

    S.

    Whitfield:
    Reading letter from Chief, opposing amendments.
    (sorry was typing so hard I did not get name of Chief) I urge members to oppose this Amendment.

    S.
    I thought casinos would be enough.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 6:00 PM

    Bullets are more expensive and cut into the profit margin. Also, the shooters would have to be licensed and that would eliminate the availibility of cheap illegal labor.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 6:00 PM

    Moran is good!! Love that guy.

    Why do some keep going away from the issue?? talking about issues that have nothing to do with the bill. slaughter for human consumption. worry about the rest later. There is a way to help once this is stop.

    I plan on trying to help !!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:00 PM

    MOran from Virginia was VERY emotional and moving

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:00 PM

    RYAN,
    Thanks for your response. There is sooo much the racing industry can do to help with funding however, there are other industries as well that should come up with a plan i.e. qh associations.

    Posted by: Debra, WI at September 7, 2006 6:01 PM

    Moran is making many great points...horses are inspiration...we need something to inspire us .. it is beautiful to see horses running in a field .. lets pass this bill without amendments and end this today.. (I know I paraphrased but I am not good at dictation ;) )

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:01 PM

    I just replayed my TIVO...

    The chair said that Amendments 1 & 2 "will not be offered" (I am sorry...I think it means offered for debate, but I could be wrong)

    Amendment 3 is being discussed

    REP JIM MORAN (D)is speaking for the bill, now

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:01 PM

    I am personally offended that rep King is using native american culture to defeat this bill. My husband is part Cherokee and yes they breed and sell horses, but they have deep held beliefs about the need to respect ALL in nature. NOTHING in these slaughter houses is respectful. And No tribe seeing this for themselves would be in favor.

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 6:01 PM

    Wow, this guy Moran is really getting passionate about this! He's speaking like a real person and getting his point across well.

    Posted by: MassueseFan J in NJ at September 7, 2006 6:02 PM

    Steve King was MADE for human consumption! I think he'd go well with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:02 PM

    Yeah, Steve, Lewis and Clark ate horses. We had slavery, too. Doesn't make it right.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:02 PM

    OMG...I know that I am a reporter for you guys and not a commentator, but to go back to Louis and Clark eating horses IS RIDICULOUS

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:03 PM

    ###########

    Joann (9/7 11:34 pm) - Amen to your post. So glad you finally found this site. Welcome! I clicked on your name, and WOW what wonderful cat photos! Didn't have a chance yet to check out your other pics, but plan to later. Wanted to let other catlovers out there know to take a look. Thanks for sharing.

    Hope Peace Love & Music - CJ the craziest catlady (Blackie's Mother & Pleasure's Aunt) in Hammond IN, f/k/a CJ of T Bar J (Elgin IL)

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at September 7, 2006 6:03 PM

    I wish that one of the supporters would quote the Jackson's and ask "would you want to eat Barbaro?". I'm sure some diluted, staunch, ignorant opposer would say that is different, but in reality it is not and they need to think in those terms, A horse, whether a million dollar winning race horse, or a companion horse who just needs love and attention are still on and the same.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 6:04 PM

    They are voting on the two amendments NOW

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:04 PM

    I am calling the Cherokee nation. King is misrepresenting native americans in a horrible way

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 6:05 PM

    OKAY....

    THIS IS THE RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:05 PM

    Does anyone know where to find the exact text of the amendments to HR503?

    Posted by: Liz and Avery in GA at September 7, 2006 6:05 PM

    Voting electronically on the first amendment now.
    They have 15 minutes to vote. It looks close so far

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:06 PM

    pray to defeat the ammendments

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 6:06 PM

    Man...I gotta take a break...

    The vote on the two amendments is scheduled for 15 minutes

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:06 PM

    They are voting on the first amendment goodlatte put up...that would get rid of the ban....they have 15mins

    let us pray

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:06 PM

    Steve King was MADE for human consumption! I think he'd go well with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 06:02 PM

    Ahhhhhhhhh yes, J. Carson ... spoken like a true "Hannibal Lechter" aficionado!! Touche', only make mine Pinot Noir!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 6:07 PM

    ####
    TLC(LAura) - Deborah A is in Trinidad, Cheryl Jones is Lakewood. I know you are Highlands Ranch, I am Denver. I believe there is a Wendy and Susan here too but I don't know where they live. There may be more that are lurking and if so, please contact me so we can make a difference!

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at September 7, 2006 6:08 PM

    Send all those thoughts to Washington. Pray that the ammendments do not go through . We need just the bill it's self. not the ammendments..


    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:10 PM

    My question is...do they have to have a certain number of total votes for it to be valid? cause at this point, there are very little votes, only 24 total right now...out of over 400 possible

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:11 PM

    I am so sorry RYAN you are right...this is vote on AMENDMENT 3...

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:11 PM

    ########
    An observation:
    My home is built on what used to be part of the Pottawatomie Indian Reservation in Kansas. Seems the government had no regard for personal property rights when they reduced the size of the res to its current area.
    Now they do have regard for personal property rights of native Americans? Or only on this issue of Horse Slaughter?

    S.
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 6:11 PM

    Summary of Amendments Submitted to the Rules Committee for
    H.R. 503 - To amend the Horse Protection Act to prohibit the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses and other equines to be slaughtered for human consumption, and for other purposes.

    Listed in Alphabetical Order
    September 06, 2006 12:21pm


    Goodlatte (VA) #2
    (LATE) Provides that the Federal government will take over the burden of caring for unwanted horses.

    Goodlatte (VA) #4
    (LATE) Requires the Secretary of Agriculture to consider the prohibition on the movement, showing, exhibition, or sale of sore horses, and prohibition on the shipping, transporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses to be slaughtered for human consumption when carrying out antemortem inspections as required by the Federal Meat Inspection Act.

    Goodlatte (VA) #8
    (LATE) Provides that the Federal government will reimburse State and local governments for the costs incurred in caring for abandoned or unwanted horses.

    Goodlatte (VA) #9
    (LATE) Provides that the Secretary of Agriculture must certify that sufficient horse sanctuaries exist to care for unwanted horses before the law will take effect.

    Goodlatte (VA) #5
    (LATE) Provides that the prohibitions in H.R. 503 would not apply with respect to slaughter in existing horse plants.

    Goodlatte (VA) #3
    (LATE) Provides that H.R. 503 will take effect with respect to any State where it is in violation of the laws thereof to ship, transport, move, deliver, receive, possess, purchase, sell, or donate any horse or other equine to be slaughtered for human consumption.

    Goodlatte (VA) #6
    (LATE) Provides that H.R. 503 will not take effect until a referendum of horse owners has been conducted, the outcome of which demonstrates that a majority of horse owners agree that a ban on horse slaughter should be implemented.

    Goodlatte (VA) #7
    (LATE) Replaces "horse or other equine" in H.R. 503 with "registered thoroughbred horse".

    King, Steve (IA) #1
    Provides that equines can be shipped, transported, moved, delivered, received, posessed, purchased, sold, or donated for slaughter for human consumption by Native Americans or people from other cultures that eat equine meat.


    U.S. House of Representatives
    Committee on Rules
    H-312 The Capitol
    Washington, DC 20515
    202-225-9191 Privacy Policy

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 6:11 PM

    i'm hearing the arguments afterwards. They say an owner will have to keep the horse forever. Frankly, that's not true. I hate to say this, but the owner could draw a chalk cross between the horse's eyes and ears, as they did in the cavalry, and shoot him. He would die instantly. No fear. None of the other bad stuff that happens that I don't want to think about. Most people own own horses (in rural areas) have access to a backhoe, etc. It would be a responsibilty of the horse owner, and it might be unpleasant. Or he could pay for the vet to come and euthanize the horse. Just like he pays for shoeing, hay, medications, etc. It is NOT a hardship. Hauling away could be an expense, but it's the least the owner can do for the horse who has served him well.

    Sorry to be graphic, but it certainly is an alternative if you need to do it. I have a friend who rides in the back country. She loves her horses, but she always carries a gun. If her horse was injured catastrophically, this is what she would do.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:12 PM

    Who has the language of Amendment 3?

    It looks like it's going to pass....oh no

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:12 PM

    THIS AMENDMENT 3

    Makes the bill effective only in states than ban horse slaughter...few states have considered a ban

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:13 PM

    #####
    Pamela, Sandie -
    If the Barbaromaniacs want to support a horse rescue - let me see some proof. CJ and I have been posting about Miracle Horse Rescue for weeks now. I have been providing updates of my weekly visits, with photos. As far as I know only one person on this site has made a donation to MHR, besides myself and CJ. MHR is planning a trip to Oregon next month for the sole purpose of going to the auctions and outbidding those slaughter bidders, and bringing as many horses as they can to a place where they are cared for and loved.
    I will be happy to post the links again for anyone interested. Thanks.

    Posted by: Faye at September 7, 2006 6:13 PM

    This is the worst amendment (the first one they are proposing/voting on now) cause it removes the ban on all states that dont ban it already - this will negate the bill itself

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:13 PM

    Shelley...they are trying to make it so we have to get laws passed in our individual states!

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:14 PM

    I thought the nays had it but in the electronic vote, we're loosing!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:14 PM

    Ryan, this is disgusting!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:14 PM

    It seems that the opponents to the HR503 are trying to say that we should not care about horses, but care about people...that to be taking Congress's time to do this is frivolous.

    They are missing the entire truth, which is :
    It is not about horses v people, it is about good v evil. It is about simply DOING GOOD.

    What is frivoluos about that?

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 6:14 PM

    So Salazar would be willing to send a horse with a broken leg on a trailer ride to slaughter?? How sick is this SOB!! Should his horse have the misfortune of experiencing a catastrophic event, I hope the horse falls on Salazar and breaks HIS leg (or neck for that matter)!

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 7, 2006 6:15 PM

    There are so many votes left to go...I hope the Representatives make sure their votes are casted

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:15 PM

    I bet Goodlatte was lighting the stake fires in another life - what a zealot!

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 6:16 PM

    How can not all members vote? this is terrible...still a total of only about 55 out of 430 some

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:16 PM

    wouldnt they still have rendering plants for them after they are expired?

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 7, 2006 6:16 PM

    I'd vote for having a luau with Salazar, King, Goodlatte on a spit with apples in their mouths, but I bet they'd taste bad!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:16 PM

    Hi, Faye.

    Re your concerns about rescue donations, I hope this is somewhat reassuring. I've contributed to a local horse rescue in my metropolitan area, Longmeadow Ranch. It was a tough decision, but my money is unfortunately limited, and we've had a lot of horse hoarders in my state in the past few years. I voted for you quite a few times, however! You're a hero in my book.

    PS--I love your tales of The General.

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 6:16 PM

    #############

    Laura/TLC

    just popped in to get caught up. I'm in Lakewood

    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 7, 2006 6:17 PM

    Going to be close!!!!!!! I am on edge of my seat. Was going to try to mow but dang, I need to see this!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:18 PM

    I WILL NOT accept the 'cultural' issue. Korean's eat dogs but NOT IN THE US!!

    Posted by: joyce moore at September 7, 2006 6:18 PM

    This is why Goodlatte didn't bother bringing up his other amendments....so that they would vote yes for this one!!
    There's less than two minutes left and its 55-45 against us

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:18 PM

    Many will vote in the last minute

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:18 PM

    ######
    Thank you Susan! :-)

    Posted by: Faye at September 7, 2006 6:19 PM

    could someone with a tv provide the tally, the computer screen is very blurry

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 7, 2006 6:19 PM

    It's sad that only 1/4 are voting at this point...

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:19 PM

    All of you that are interested, there are many, many rescue groups in every state that need help financially and physically. They go to these sales and prevent the killers from getting these horses. they work with what money they have. the more they have, the more they save. Volunteer or donate to them. every little bit helps. I personally have a show training background and I am going to get set up to buy these horses and retrain them. I know many people who are doing it now on a small scale. Every little bit helps. Jen

    Posted by: jen at September 7, 2006 6:19 PM

    Faye,

    I've donated to the Forego Fund - a rescue and rehab fund set up by the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation.
    I also donate to my local SPCA, in Houston, which buys horses at auction where the killer buyers are.
    Everyone here contributes in some way - maybe not everyone is able to do so financially but they are supporting the cause.

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 6:19 PM

    While we are waiting for this vote:

    A great GRACIAS you to Pamela for being our reporter. Props to you girl. Way to stay calm and give facts, Watch out Katie Couric!

    A second big GRACIAS to Shelley for jumping in the trenches.

    Apologies to all if I got too heated. Some of these folks are difficult to stomach. Specially when you consider that they are our employees.

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 6:20 PM

    oooo68 for 71 against as of now

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:20 PM

    I'd vote for having a luau with Salazar, King, Goodlatte on a spit with apples in their mouths, but I bet they'd taste bad!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 06:16 PM

    Nah, that's too GOOD for them ... they don't deserve the apples!!! Give them to Bobby instead!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 6:20 PM

    Oh, we caught up!!!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:20 PM

    is it. is it?? Nays are winning!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:21 PM

    WTF?????

    I am reading that they are arguing that the horses are humanely "euthanized"????!!!!!!

    Then what the hell is the "knock box" HUH?

    Warning, the following is a link to Equine Horse Advocates Inc. It shows what goes on in these "humane" slaughter houses. It tells us what we can do to support the anti-slaughter movement.

    DO NOT go to this link if graphic pictures disturb you.

    http://www.equineadvocates.com/hs/inside3.html

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz at September 7, 2006 6:21 PM

    COME ON...

    I DO BELIEVE...I DO BELIEVE...I DO BELIEVE

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:21 PM

    Joyce,
    Salazar is like a devil. You don't slaughter something just because its broken. You help it mend so it can continue to live its life out to the fullest.I am very upset righ now. I believe in saving animals not disregarding them...just because.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 6:21 PM

    Let's care about the "people" in an election year. I work in the city right across from a public housing project that the city constantly maintains and you have never seen nicer cars than in their parking lot. These are the ones who for generations make welfare a way of life , scam the system and cry about how the government does'nt do enough for them ( it is their right to reproduce as many times as they want with the tax payers footing the bill ) These are the "people" but guess what! They refuse to register to vote so they cannot be called for jury duty!!!!

    Let's hear about the "people" and let the horses die gruesome deaths.

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 6:22 PM

    Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray ...........................

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 6:22 PM

    I BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!


    Keep it up Guys!!! Candles, vigils, positive flow of thoughts!!

    Our Voices are being heard!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:22 PM

    Time is up.....it looks like we won this amendment battle
    Don't understand why they are still accepting votes

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:22 PM

    Faye,

    While I'm sure Miracle Horse Rescue is a wonderful organization, it is only one of many. Just because only one person from this site has made a donation to MHR, doesn't mean they are not donating their money, time & efforts to other equally deserving organizations. I, for one, have been a supporter of many differing animal welfare organizations for several decades now. You said, "Let me see some proof." Will my pile of credit card receipts from over the years suffice? How about my cancelled check that I just mailed to the HSUS two days ago?

    Posted by: Sandie at September 7, 2006 6:23 PM

    we're winning

    162 -131 as I type

    s

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 6:23 PM

    #########

    What Lisa Morin said to her daughter (see her post here, 9/7, 1:11 pm), and how it progressed, is classic. Pure Barbaro Effect. Tears again.

    LIVING PROOF OF THE LIVING TRUTH.

    HOPE PEACE LOVE & MUSIC - CJ the craziest catlady (Blackie's Mother & Pleasure's Aunt) in Hammond IN, f/k/a CJ of T Bar J (Elgin IL)

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at September 7, 2006 6:24 PM

    OK guys...the tally will continue to change as votes are recorded...that is why the numbers are changing

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:24 PM

    PRAY Tide is turning

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 6:24 PM

    Could I just make a quick comment, as an informed horse owner, for the benefit of any lurking reporters or members of Congress? :-)

    The reason the horse slaughter debate is so heated is that there are, as usual in this country, two opposing forces at work: professional breeders and trainers who believe they have a given right to profit off of EVERY horse they breed and train, regardless of their own profligate breeding practices, and even if it means sending that horse inhumanely to a slaughterhouse (where, I can assure you, it will NOT be as benignly treated as Rep. Goodlatte assures you); and on the other wise, the garden-variety amateur horse owner, who puts the quality of life, health and well-being of the horse over pure profit.

    Inside the horse community, these interests are divided about 50-50.

    That is why the American Horse Council (the largest of all U.S. horse organizations whose names have been bandied about today) has adopted a NEUTRAL position on HR503. They don't dare to offend either side. Amateurs provide the bulk of the income that keeps professional organizations going; yet at the same time, big breeders are big business, big business means big money, and big money can afford big lobbyists.

    I've been listening to the debates all morning and have not seen this point emphasized. If I were a non-horse person trying to make an intelligent decision here, I think I'd be pretty confused.

    Posted by: Liz and Avery in GA at September 7, 2006 6:24 PM

    Pulling away re amendment adoption.

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 6:24 PM

    All Creatures Great and Small;
    All Things Bright & Beautiful
    All Things Wise & Wonderful
    The Lord God Made Them All

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 6:24 PM

    THE NAYS ARE AHEAD ... YEA!!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 6:24 PM

    Glad to hear you're doing well. Keep on keeping on, Big Beautiful Boy.

    Posted by: Fran at September 7, 2006 6:24 PM

    I'm going blind trying to read the vote count on my computer screen.......

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 6:25 PM

    Sorry about ranting but why can't I have a say in how the money that I EARN and pay in taxes is spent. Why can't I deignate my share for animal welfare?????????

    Posted by: chris byers at September 7, 2006 6:25 PM

    200 neigh 156 yea

    Shelley, I don't understand that either.

    S.

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 6:25 PM

    Thanks, Susan!

    Posted by: Julie Z. at September 7, 2006 6:26 PM

    we are up by 46 votes with only 44 left we won the first amendment!!! its toast!!!

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:27 PM

    GUYS DO YOU REALIZE WHAT THIS MEANS...

    WE HAD THE VOTES TO DEFEAT THE AMENDMENT

    THAT MEANS WE HAVE THE VOTES TO PASS THE LEGISLATION AS IS

    YYYIIIIIPPPPIIIIIEEEEE

    THAT IS IT...THE YAYS CAN"T CATCH UP

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:27 PM


    U U U U U U U U U...and it's BARBARO!

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 6:28 PM

    We cannot lose now....we are up by too many!!!

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:28 PM

    Faye - have you seen General lately. I sent him a check yesterday!! I'm gonna try and do it every month. You can email me if you want or just post here!!

    Thanks

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 7, 2006 6:28 PM

    Yippppppppppppppe!!! The bArbaro Effect Continues!!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 6:29 PM

    Can we jump up and down now?? No way those remaining No votes can turn things around..


    JUMPING

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:30 PM

    AND IT IS THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN A SUBLIME PERFORMANCE

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:30 PM

    Down the stretch, it's the nays in the lead but several lengths.........

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 6:30 PM

    The ammendment vote is done...why is Palosi still talking?


    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 6:30 PM

    ################

    Guys!

    It is 10:29 p.m. and I have been on this computer since 8:00 a.m. (I think, braindead). I can't see clearly anymore, except what you are typing.

    Thank you so much for keeping me informed. I will not go to sleep until all the voting is over.

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Socorro at September 7, 2006 6:31 PM

    We got the majority....looks like we beat down this amendment

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:31 PM

    The BEST thing about this is...this was the one amendment that was proposed that totally undermined the whole bill. I am not jumping the gun here - but if we won this one, which got rid of the Goodlatte amendment that destroyed a ban in any state who didnt ban it already (which was totally against the bill itself) we should be positive about the whole bill itself.

    Because, if we won this, then it means that more support us than are against us. If any opposed the bill as WHOLE, they would have voted YES for this amendment.

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:31 PM

    I think it's going in our direction!

    BTW, Steve King talks about the rights of people to eat horses. Fine. Part of my family is Maori, who killed and ate their competition in New Zealand, the Marioris. Maybe I'll round up my relatives and we'll pay Mr. King a visit. (But we'll leave the apples for Bobby!)

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:31 PM

    YES, YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Good work everyone! Pammie, ShellyA and all, thanks for providing the comments and votes...

    I for one will be sending many, many letters out, especially one to Mr. Tom Osborne, from NE regarding his sweeping statement that "all in his district are opposed to HR503"... NOT ME!

    Linda R - (not a proud Nebraskan today)

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at September 7, 2006 6:31 PM

    it looks like a certain victory for the nays. No photo finish here folks, the nays are too strong a contender.......

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 6:31 PM

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    Renee - thanks for your beautiful posts today. I am very upset, very afraid for our animal kingdom today. Not able to function well. I just keep praying.

    Posted by: Margie at September 7, 2006 6:31 PM

    On Agreeing to the Resolution P Providing for the consideration of the bill (H.R. 503) to amend the Horse Protection Act to prohibit the shipping, tansporting, moving, delivering, receiving, possessing, purchasing, selling, or donation of horses and other equines to be slaughtered for human consumption Passed

    just updated on the House website

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 7, 2006 6:31 PM

    Otherlyn...they are just using up the TV space...she is talking about something else

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:31 PM

    yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy .... WE WON THIS ROUND!!

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 6:32 PM

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:32 PM

    Hooray....it's official. Now we have to go through this with the next amendment

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:32 PM

    AMENDMENT VOTE

    YEA 177

    NEIGH 229

    Hooray, -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 6:32 PM

    I think today it should be "whinnys and neighs" instead of "yeas and nays" LOL

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at September 7, 2006 6:32 PM

    DANCING with my candles and chicken feathers in the living room VIVA BARBARO

    AAAYAAAYAAAYAAAAY QUE MILAGRO.

    ok. sitting down now, they still have to pass the
    actual bill.

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 6:33 PM

    whew

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at September 7, 2006 6:33 PM

    RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT THREE:

    AMENDMENT THREE DEFEATED 229:177!

    RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT FOUR IN PROCESS (five minute vote).

    Drew

    Posted by: Drew at September 7, 2006 6:33 PM

    OK....we're coming into the turn now....race is not over....keep PRAYING...Please keep BELIEVING!

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 6:33 PM

    This one is only a 5 minute vote...not 15 minute???

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:33 PM

    The nays have crossed the finish line in a sweet victory :)


    YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!! On to the winners circle

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    You guys we only beat the first ammendment, this is the one now for exemption of Native Americans. We NEED to beat this ammendment!!!!!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    THE VOTE HAS BEEN PUBLISHED....WE WON

    THIS MEANS THE BILL WILL PROBABLY PASS AS WRITTEN IN ITS ENTIRETY

    ....visual Barbaro in his stall...looking very
    irritated..."BARBARO BURGERS MY A**"....

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    YES!!!
    Pamie,
    I agree. Seems like some of the non-committals came out of the closet?....woodwork?
    Amendment to provide exemption now for Native Americans

    so far nays 110 yeas 62
    s

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    GUYS DO YOU REALIZE WHAT THIS MEANS...

    WE HAD THE VOTES TO DEFEAT THE AMENDMENT

    THAT MEANS WE HAVE THE VOTES TO PASS THE LEGISLATION AS IS

    YYYIIIIIPPPPIIIIIEEEEE

    THAT IS IT...THE YAYS CAN"T CATCH UP

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 06:27 PM

    WHOAAAA .... DOESN'T THIS JUST MEAN FOR AMENDMENT #3??? CAN'T THEY NOW STILL PUT UP OTHER AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION?

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    The Palosi is a rerun. Saw it already this morning.

    Posted by: Sam I Am at September 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    What happened? I'm confused.

    They voted against the last ammendment and are now voting on that other ammendment?

    When will the final voting be?

    Posted by: MassuseFan J in NJ at September 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    Margie,
    You are so welcome. We are all in this together. We all need to stay very positive and send that energy where it belongs. I hope your day gets better. Take Care. Barbaro's name was mentioned and I feel that was very good.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    Next ammendment all pray for nays

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    Can we be "optimistic" and Feel that things are going well for this bill?? hate to jinx it but dang, I am feeling a wee bit better about this...

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:35 PM

    There is no way any reasonable person that has ever been to one of those facilities that slaughters and process horses for meat can describe that as euthanasia. No way. The way the opponents of this bill can continue to compare the two manner of deaths as similar is an affront to me. Ticks me off, to put a point on it.

    Posted by: David at September 7, 2006 6:35 PM

    #####
    To those who have donated to ANY horse rescue group - God bless you! I'm not saying it has to be MHR, there are thousands to help - I've helped other ones too. I just responded to the phrase about: "Barbaromaniacs supporting a rescue facility" - made me wonder if they were thinking of picking one and flooding them with funds to really make a difference in the lifes of the horses - could it be - MHR.

    Posted by: Faye at September 7, 2006 6:35 PM

    YES!!!
    Pamie,
    I agree. Seems like some of the non-committals came out of the closet?....woodwork?
    Amendment to provide exemption now for Native Americans

    so far nays 172 yeas 110
    s

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 6:35 PM

    Next race.....

    pray pray pray pray pray pray pray pray pray pray pray pray..................

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 6:35 PM

    THEY ARE VOTING ON OTHER AMENDMENTS NOW .... KING OF IOWA ... WE HAVE TO GET NAYS ON ALL OF THESE FIRST BEFORE WE CAN GET A VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL BILL WITHOUT AMENDMENT.

    RIGHT?????????????

    Posted by: Linnie at September 7, 2006 6:35 PM

    They're going thru the amendments one by one.

    Posted by: Liz and Avery in GA at September 7, 2006 6:36 PM

    The momentum appears to be going our way, she said cautiously.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:36 PM

    J Carson Black,

    Rancher Ribs and Cattleman Cake. MMMMMM

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at September 7, 2006 6:36 PM

    how many amendments are on the table?

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 7, 2006 6:36 PM

    IT IS ALL ABOUT THE NUMBERS GUYS...NO MATTER WHAT THE ISSUE IS, THIS VOTE ON THIS ONE AMENDMENT REFLECTS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE FOR OR AGAINST THE BILL ITSELF...

    THAT IS WHY YOU CAN DRAW THE CONCLUSION THAT THE BILL WILL PASS

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:36 PM

    I have been taking up way too much of work's bandwidth watching on C-Span today. Glad we set one ammendment down. On to the next! The Barbaro Effect in in effect!

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at September 7, 2006 6:36 PM

    Let me reiterate - and I know we are not out of the woods yet - but if anyone was opposed to the bill as a whole, they would have voted yes for the last amendment that we just won on - I know it's not over, but we should take that forward

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:36 PM

    Joyce, if we win, can I have Steve King? I'm *really* hungry!

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:37 PM

    Power to the people, and power to the ones who count on us to take care of them. Barbaro Effect -- KEEP IT COMING!


    Margie, you keep praying, girl,seems to be working just fine today. -- Susan in Saratoga

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 6:37 PM

    They are showing they want to vote on the bill itself and not the dumb ammendments that the naysayers added on

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at September 7, 2006 6:37 PM

    We've already got the majority to beat the second amendment. HOORAY!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:37 PM

    This ammendment leading in Nays , we are ahead

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 6:37 PM

    Here's how heated the debate is - one of the biggest equestrian forums on the net, www.chronicleforums.com, is crashing under the weight of horse people hitting "Refresh".

    Posted by: Liz and Avery in GA at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    Point Blank! If anyone opposes this bill, they truly DO NOT know the facts of it or the entirety of what goes on in a slaughter house. Ignorance really. I can't help but think money is going into a few pockets on this one for trying to allow this to continue....Foreign money into political pockets can speak volumes!

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    VIVA!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Marky at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    Pray for Nay
    Pray for Nay
    Pray for Nay
    Pray for Nay
    Pray for Nay
    Pray for Nay
    Pray for Nay
    Pray for Nay
    Pray for Nay..........................

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    No way we can lose this vote now - 245-149 with 37 votes not tallied yet...we GOT THE 2nd TOO!!!!!

    Posted by: Ryan at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    Yowsa! I'm getting my knife and fork.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    Why don't we start a 'Euthanasai Fund' through the HSUS or ASPCA? This will eliminate the 'can't afford to do the right thing' argument.

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    so I can breath now?? I've been holding my breath all day - I feel much better. What happens next???

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    #######
    Faye,
    I support OldFriendsEquine.Org....and I have a share to bring Alysheba home from Turkey and a numbered sketch of Seabiscuit star "Rich in Dallas" sent to me by Michael B. to prove it :) :).
    Love to Family and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.
    Is this a miracle we are seeing today? The neighs are ahead by 100 votes for this amendment. (exemptions)

    Posted by: SusanW at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    From what I understand, now they debate again on the final form of HR503.
    Then they vote.....don't they break for lunch or something!!!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at September 7, 2006 6:38 PM

    IA amendment seems to be fading 251/151

    Edie

    Posted by: Edie at September 7, 2006 6:39 PM

    Please, can someone tell me really quickly what amendment(s) have been defeated? Due in a meeting really soon, thank you!

    Posted by: Susan E. at September 7, 2006 6:39 PM

    Liz and Avery, let's hope the next vote hits "refresh" from the last one -- Susan in Saratoga. Sorry, the ####s just aren't happening today! We'll behave tomorrow.

    Posted by: Susan H at September 7, 2006 6:39 PM

    If Goodlatte gets sick, I am sending him to the slaughter house - would save A TON OF MONEY ON MEDICAL BILLS!

    Posted by: Deb G. at September 7, 2006 6:39 PM

    I have an idea...lets all feel each other hands in our own and squeeze tight and hold on.


    HORSE HANDS ACROSS AMERICA! We can do it!!!!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 7, 2006 6:40 PM

    Okay, I just got in from work. What website address are ya'll getting all this up to the minute info on HR 503?? Is this on TV? Help! I'm missing out on the action! cindy a

    Posted by: cindy a at September 7, 2006 6:40 PM

    Good idea, Joyce.

    Posted by: J. Carson Black at September 7, 2006 6:40 PM

    J Carson Black,

    Ok, you can have King. I'll take Salazar (although he's more of a snack than a meal).

    Posted by: Joyce Moore at September 7, 2006 6:40 PM

    I am sitting here with my eyes watering. Barbaro forever! Every victory is in his honor, and Ferdinand, and Excellor, and every other horse we don't know! Good has simply got to win out, it just has to. Maybe, just maybe, this amendment vote is an indication of the feelings of the House on the Bill in general?

    Posted by: Jo-Ann at September 7, 2006 6:40 PM


    Pray for NEIGH !

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 7, 2006 6:40 PM

    THIS VOTE WILL MIRROR THE VOTE ON THE BILL ITSELF

    I BELIEVE THAT THIS FINAL TALLY WILL BE CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL VOTE ON THE BILL ITSELF.

    You don't have to worry about the other amendments any more...WE HAVE THE NUMBERS

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:41 PM

    RIGHT ON!!! Another one bites the dust.. We are not done!!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at September 7, 2006 6:41 PM

    Jake,
    I agree that some should have the fire held to their feet, but people pot pie isn't the least bit appealing, m'dear.

    just make'm sweat a little.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at September 7, 2006 6:41 PM

    JUST AS A PS....Pray they don't start bargaining and trading votes

    Posted by: Pamela at September 7, 2006 6:41 PM

    Good morning, everyone!

    Wow, Alex! We exceeded our bandwidth allowance? Not quite the Barbaro Effect we were looking for! LOL

    BUT..... We won this round, folks! What a perfect way to honor our champ!

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at September 8, 2006 9:37 AM

    DEAR ALEX,

    That was incredible - pretty painful...I felt totally lost not being able to get back here..

    WHAT A GREAT TRIUMPH - in BARBARO'S NAME! You people are fantastic. I can't help but think we all made a difference.

    Alex, please let us know what we can do for the site, how we can help you, if there's anything...

    It's on to the Senate. I have Hillary Clinton, for one. She's a good guy when it comes to animal rights.

    Posted by: Christine at September 8, 2006 10:41 AM

    WE'RE HOME AGAIN!!! Thank you, Alex...you worked another miracle!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at September 8, 2006 10:50 AM

    Good morning Alex and all , I'm very glad the site is back too. I really missed my family here.

    Morning Barbaro, so glad you remain your healthy self. We won the vote for you yesterday, big guy, although I think you had a lot to do with it.! We will will the Senate too. Got to go get coffee now, see you later, mighty steed.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 8, 2006 11:05 AM

    Good Morning Alex
    You can't believe how I missed you just for the short time....can't get along without you all!!! I saw the message about band width but kept repeating to try to get in because I so wanted to be on site!!!!lol
    Everything "Jake" with HB..credit for the effort has to go to some of our Maniacs here......so.... job well done!!
    Hello sweet boy......thanks to Jan, I can now see the 2006 Kentucky Derby every day .......what an uplift!!!!
    LITF anything new here?? God is watching over you too!
    Be with you in about an hour for the new update.

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at September 8, 2006 11:06 AM

    Yay, we're back! Thanks Alex for doing all you are doing to keep us all going!
    Have a great day Barbaro, Grow Hoof and Heal Leg!
    Fog, prayers for you for those nasty tumors to shrink and go away...
    Good Weekend to all!

    GO BARBARO GO!

    Nancy in Va Beach :)

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at September 8, 2006 11:15 AM

    HOORAY and up she rises! Alex, thank you for bringing the site back up.


    Barbaro nation: It was an emotional day. There is work still to go, with the Senate, but today CONGRATULATIONS to all the good people who worked tirelessly for the horses. No way would I have known about HR 503 without the Barbaro Effect.

    Watching the vote yesterday reminded me of Barbaro's stretch run in The Derby. He walked away with it. Yesterday the American people walked away with their right to determine how we treat a dependant species. We took the reins back from special interests while shining a very, very bright light into the dark workings of coprorate politics.

    And a hearty hi ho Silver, away! -- Peace, Susan in Saratoga

    PS Now, on to the Senate. And I'll go on a bandwidth diet today for poor TWR.com :-)!!

    Posted by: Susan H at September 8, 2006 11:16 AM

    Good Morning Barbaro!

    I just had to thank you for your inspiration to fight for the antislaughter bill. I got involved becacuse of you. Looks like the average American citizen won one for the Nipper!!

    Also thanks to the Jacksons, Alex, Shelly a. and all who participated in our democracy.

    Long live Barbaro! (and The Fog, too!)

    Posted by: Patty in Dallas at September 8, 2006 11:21 AM

    I didn't realize how ADDICTED to this site that I have become! I'm so happy it's back. Feeling great about HR503 too. Have a great weekend everyone!

    Posted by: Linda in RI at September 8, 2006 11:36 AM

    Hiya, Bobbey! It's a gorgeous sunny day here on the banks of the Thames. Kita is a "pistol" this AM, full of energy. May you have a day filled with sunshine, quality grazing, visits from good friends, & lots of pampering. You've reached the close of another "work week of healing", sweet prince. Now all members of The Barbaro Nation need to get the Senate to vote on S1915. What a powerful horse you are to have galvanized such action! Hugs, pets, & "scratches" from your pals in CT - Robyn, Brent, & Nikita (the horse-loving Husky)

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at September 8, 2006 11:38 AM

    Alex, I'm so glad you brought us back. Thank you!Phew!
    Any news on how The Fog is doing with his first treatments?

    Now on to the senate! Good, good, good.

    Barbaro! Good morning Sunshine! ACD & all is right with the world. I wish I could be there to help spoil you, Big Guy. Have a great day, keep up the good work, and I'll see you later!
    Love & prayers

    Posted by: Cheryl -- NY at September 8, 2006 11:38 AM

    Congratulations and thanks for getting the site back up & running, Alex! Let's hope all goes well today and it stays running! :))

    Posted by: Ruth Ann at September 8, 2006 11:42 AM

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