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    Barbaro Updates: 90

    updates are now here.

    Update 752: The Thoroughbred Times reports on the Fog tribute: Golden Gate Fields honors champion Lost in the Fog. Robbie in Fresno reported her experience at the tribute (comment timestamp: 5:41 pm), the following is an excerpt:

    And my final special moment to share - I had noticed a small flock of geese flying in and out of the ponds and water features in the center of the field. Just as the service for LITF ended, that small flock of geese came out of nowhere and flew down low right over the winners circle. It was as if they were doing a flyby. And instead of an even 10 (geese mate for life) there were 9 - one was missing. For me it was magical - and truly a day to remember.

    Discreet Cat crushed the short field in the Jerome Handicap at Belmont this afternoon. I think after the first half a mile the remaining runners had just had their hearts' broken! He galloped home the rest of the way, and won very easily. He only beat allowance horses, but it was a grade two so you cannot blame him that no one really showed up.

    Update 751: Sue McMullen's Longchamp report from today's racing action:

    Yet another Arc win for the Maestro trainer, Andre Fabre and his seventh winner of this race, but perhaps not with the horse most thought would come out top of his three, which included Shirocco and Hurricane Run. You have to discount the run of these two as Shirocco clearly wasn't himself and Hurricane Run got boxed in and wasn't suited by the muddling pace. But you can't take anything away from the winner, Rail Link, who was the most improving horse in the race. Ironically, this Arc had been criticised for the small field, which, although containing superstars, was lacking the usual mix of the top three year-olds from the Classic generation (the Epsom Derby winner had been due to run but had a minor setback) but it was an improving three year-old who won it and he has now shown himself to be a very good horse. The mare Pride ran the race of her life finishing very fast to take second and the Japanese hero Deep Impact ran well but couldn't shake off Rail Link when he made his challenge. The slow early pace made it a bit of a messy race, run in a style that Deep Impact was not used to and which didn't help his chances, but trainer Yasuo Ikee is already talking about coming back next year.

    Five other Group 1s on the card included a very, very emotional victory for British racing fans as Sergeant Cecil won the stayer's race, the Cadran, coming with a very late run from last to first in the home stretch, to a roar from the crowd that his jockey Frankie Dettori described as 'never having known anything like it.' This 7 year-old, bought as a youngster for a few hundred pounds, is a great favourite in the UK and was voted last year's 'horse of the year' having won all three of the big staying handicaps. This year he stepped up to Group company and this was his first victory in a Group 1. Tears were shed as he was led back to a the sort of reception usually reserved for the Arc winner.

    Mandesha won the Prix L'Opera in fine style and, according to owner Princess Zahra Aga Khan, may go for the Arc next year. Jim Bolger is a man to be envied as he trains the current ante-post favourite for next year's 2,000 Guineas and the Derby with Teofilo and now adds the filly Finsceal Beo (which means Living Legend) to those at the top of the betting for the first fillies' classic, the 1,000 Guineas after her emphatic win in the Prix Marcel Boussac. Desert Lord won the Prix de L'Abbaye, in the second fastest running of the race and continued a long history of this race being farmed by British or Irish sprinters, just getting the better of Reverence who was not suited by the lively ground. Ballydoyle's Holy Roman Emperor paid a compliment to Teofilo, who defeated him when they last met, by winning the Prix Jean-Luc Lagardere for two year-old colts. These two might meet again later this month in the Dewhurst Stakes.

    Update 750: The racing from Longchamp today was special. I noticed how relaxed the horses appeared, both in the paddock, cantering down to the start, and loading in the starting gate (stalls). I will look forward to Sue McMullen's report, but it was nice to see the festival of racing. I was really rooting for the Japanese horse Deep Impact, he looked awesome. Perhaps two months away from the races was his undoing, he was traveling soooo well close to home, and just seemed to flatten out a little. Anyway, will wait for Sue's report.

    Another report from a visit to Golden Gate Fields yesterday for the Fog's tribute, from Shelley, CA, timestamp: 4:23 pm. Here is an excerpt:

    I had ordered a Foggy Forever T-Shirt from Ernie (Covino) here, and it arrived in 2 days from NY, just in time for me to take it with me to GGF for the other Fan of Barbaro I was meeting to wear (I already had my Delgado Fog T-shirt). After the touching ceremony for Fog, (many ears were wiped away, which may not have shown on the TV coverage) during which Greg thanked everyone for the cards, letters, carrots - and he said even songs - we were walking around when an usher in the upper areas spotted Ernie's Foggy T-shirt with the beautiful photo, and said we had to show Harry. He literally dragged us to meet Harry, and we had a wonderful conversation with him and his wife. He said he still cannot believe all the cards and letters he has received, and his wife asked if we knew he answered all of them. I told them, WE KNEW, and thanked him again for their careful and compassionate guardianship of Fog. They loved this horse without reservation, and said again they just cannot believe this journey they have been on with Fog. They were very happy about Quite a Rush, but the bittersweet nature of the day was obvious. Over and over, we heard from everyone - including the USHER, who must have been at GGF for 110 years - that these are very real, very down to earth, wonderful people. For the last two races, Harry and his wife sat alone in their box in the upper stands, looking directly at the finish line and the beautiful wreaths with the banner celebrating Fog from the Fans of Barbaro.

    Update 749: The following is a REPORT FROM MEMORIAL FOR THE FOG from Nancy. Margaret actually went to Golden Gate Fields yesterday, while she did not stay for the tribute, she reported her experience in the comments (timestamp 3:12 pm). An excerpt:

    I was at the saddling paddock and learned something about schooling in the paddock. I learned that if a horse comes in without a number hooked to their bridle they are just "schooling". But I saw at least one horse come from the isolation barn (?--the one where they put horses before their race.

    I saw one of the prettiest grays ever. I have a pic of this horse and it just doesn't do justice to this horse.

    Update 748: Another comfortable night last night for Barbaro (saturday night). I saw Michael Matz coming back from the track. He had heard from Dr. Richardson. He also noted that Barbaro was well when he visited yesterday.

    HRTV is covering the Arc card this morning: HRTV to Air Arc and Entire Longchamp Card, an excerpt:

    HRTV's duo of Jon White and Becky Witzman will anchor the network's morning coverage, which begins at 8:30 a.m. (all times Eastern). The network's coverage will encompass the entire Longchamp card, which also includes three other stakes contests. The Arc has a scheduled post time of 11:30 a.m.

    Check update 747 for an Arc preview.

    Comments

    ACN! Yay!

    Alex, please express our thanks to Michael, Peter, and Kathy for keeping us updated.

    Proud member, Fans of Barbaro

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at October 1, 2006 12:38 PM

    Dearest Barbaro ... ACN!!! You truly are a "Miracle in Progress!"

    I hope you enjoyed your bath yesterday and that you can go outside to graze today!

    You keep healing ... I'll keep praying!

    Love and hugs and kisses on your velvety nose, gorgeous boy!

    Ruth
    Proud Member
    Fans of Barbaro

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey in Ohio at October 1, 2006 12:42 PM

    Sweet Barbaro!!!! ACN :) Have a good day, it is a bit soggy in NYC, I hope it is a bit dryer by you.

    All have a good Sunday!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at October 1, 2006 12:46 PM

    ACN, wonderful! Thank you Alex,
    good morning, y'all!


    any news on Sharp Writer?


    Posted by: Anna in Tx at October 1, 2006 12:49 PM

    ACN!!

    Last night I was looking at Barbara Livngstons web site and found this photo of Barbaro's left hind foot when he was racing: http://www.barbaralivingston.com/gallery/album161

    The caption reads: Barbaro's left hind ankle contains a very unusual white spot. Horse color specialist Kirsten Wellman sent me this note: "(The Godolphin Arabian) was said to have a white spot on the back of one of his hind feet, a symbol of speed and good luck. If I'm not seeing things, I'm taking that as a sign of hope and good luck. :)

    I hadn't looked at her photos of him in awhile and this picture gave me a perspective on what needs to grow. Also, his other photos are so beautiful. Thought I would share if you haven't seen this in awhile.

    Posted by: Mary at October 1, 2006 12:51 PM

    good morning barbaro
    so glad you had a good night. get lots of rest so you will grow strong and that hoof will grow. have a good day out grazing.
    betty and bob

    Posted by: BETTY FORD at October 1, 2006 12:56 PM

    Shelley A

    If you are around today, when you feel up to it, can you let us know what you think our posture should be toward S. 3880, which the Senate approved before the recess? See discussion last night (update 89), timestamped roughly 4 am - 5 am.

    Most people did not participate in that discussion as it was quite late at night, so they are unfamiliar with the issue; but there will probably be some discussion of it here today, and it would be great to have your guidance.

    My take on it is that we should not address it at all in our contacts with the senators' offices.

    Thanks; hope you are feeling a little better.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at October 1, 2006 1:00 PM

    Mary
    Thank you for pointing out Barbaro's little white spot. What a charming story! I have always loved the story of the Godolphin Arabian since I read Marguerite Henry's "King of the Wind" as a child.

    Well, he certainly was fast; and so far, he certainly is lucky to have this particular set of connections in his life!

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at October 1, 2006 1:05 PM

    Morning, Marg!
    ACN!! YIPPEE!!!!
    Have a great October 1st, Bobby and all! :-)

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 1:06 PM

    Good Morning Alex, Bobby and fellow "fans"

    Such a nice way to start the day - hearing ACN.

    Now - time to get ready for church, check back later.

    #####
    Ro - It's sunny and gorgeous here in Florida.

    Janice
    proud to be a "fan of Barbaro"

    Never give in Never give up

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at October 1, 2006 1:23 PM

    Good Morning Everyone! Happy news ACN!!

    MARILYN/CA I did see your post yesterday and thank you for the kind words. Don't feel badly about anything. I saw a couple of others felt ignored at times and wanted them to know they weren't alone. I think we ALL get ignored sometimes, it's nothing personal. Thanks again for your kind post. Cindy a

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 1:23 PM

    Good morning, Barbaro: It's a wet and chilly morning here in N.W. Pa., I hope the weather is much nicer for you at NBC so you'll have the opportunity to go outside and graze today. Keep up the good work, Champ...grow hoof, grow!

    Sheila: You take care of yourself while you're in Colorado getting your chemo treatments. You will be in my thoughts and daily prayers.

    Patty in Dallas: Thanks for giving Cindy the link where she could view Quite A Rush's win yesterday. I don't have HRTV so I couldn't see that or the Fogs memorial...a real disappointment for me. Yet, you saved the day by providing that info. Quite A Rush was awesome! As so many others have previously stated, it's nice to know her win will give Mr. Aleo and Mr. Gilchrist some happiness during this difficult time. My one and only Fog, Love you dearly and miss you deeply.

    Cindy, hope you have a good day if I don't see any posts from you.

    Linnie: Are you okay? I always enjoy your posts and haven't seen any for a couple of days. I hope
    all is well with you and your family. Will be looking forward to your future posts.

    Prayers for Mike Rea and Erin. May you both stay strong and just take one day at a time.

    Hats off to Askalway, Wait a While, and the Tin Man... fantastic wins by all of you yesterday. I hope you're all feeling well today and can't wait to see each of you race again. You're all so special and Like Barbaro, are fortunate enough to have such wonderful owners, trainers, and connections.

    Hoping all the fob's have a safe and relaxing Sunday.

    Alex: I hope you take it easy too. Would it be possible for you to sneak some mints to Chappy? I haven't met her yet but she's captured my heart..she sounds like a real sweetie that I'd love to spoil with lots of tlc.

    Posted by: C.L. Erie, Pa. at October 1, 2006 1:23 PM

    Just seen Montparno win by a neck. I'm looking forward to seeing Pivotal Flame and Reverence next. There are some really good horses in the 2.15.

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 1:24 PM

    Good morning Alex and everyone

    Thank you for the update, Alex! I can now go to work with an easy mind. I am very appreciative of all your hard work.

    Barbaro sweetie! Ahhhh told you I'd be in to check on you this morning. ACN!! you are just the bestest boy!...Keep on keeping on and we'll stay the course with you!

    Now twitch those ears, a lil whuffle wouldn't hurt, here it comes

    Eat your carrots every day
    No more bootie so you can play

    Sunshine, breezes, grass everywhere
    A little nip here, a little nip there
    There is nothing to compare

    Grow hoof grow!! Heal leg heal!!
    That's become our daily appeal

    Keep on doing like you are
    You're our bright and shining star!

    Have a great day, babycakes! Lotsa treats, lotsa visits, lotsa grazing. Be back later to check on you. Hugs and smooooochies!

    Posted by: Toby at October 1, 2006 1:44 PM

    Morning, Barbaro! Thank the Lord for ACN!! Hope you have a good day to graze today, we have a beautiful fall morning..Our colors are just starting to change, and there's a crisp nip in the air, this is my favorite time of year. Have a day filled with eats and treats, nips and squeals, we love you, big guy.

    God bless Barbaro, make him stronger every day.

    God bless BDude, Daisy and Rockett, keep them strong.

    Have a great Sunday everyone!

    Posted by: Sue W. at October 1, 2006 1:47 PM

    Such great news to begin the day with! I'll be lighting a candle for you at church today, beautiful Barbaro. I appreciate this happy news, and will continue to pray for you ... morning, noon and night.

    Posted by: kathryn in ok at October 1, 2006 1:54 PM

    Linda A in Oregon and other LITF fans:

    Below is the link to Quite a Rush's spectacular win yesterday at Golden Gate Fields during Lost in the Fog tribute day:

    Mike C commented last night that he was watching the replays of the Fog's spectacular wins during the day. Incredibly, he witnessed another Aleo/Gilchrist horse, a 2-year old filly named Quite a Rush break her maiden in the third race. She could almost be mistaken for the Fog, with those bright orange silks and a big wide blaze on her face, going to the front impressively and winning by eight lengths. Unbelievable! Her stablemate, also a Gilchrist trained, came in second.

    http://www.calracing.com/replays.php?PHPSESSID=808ff1d18c7821e1da006138acfaf315

    Then, click on September 30, then Golden Gate Fields and then Race 3. Full screen!

    Thank you Mike C for pointing her out to us. It must have given you the chills!

    Maybe the Fog whispered in her ear and told her to win one for Harry and Greg...

    A bright light in what was an emotional day, I'm sure.

    Posted by: Judy in Nazareth, PA at October 1, 2006 2:01 PM

    Morning Barbaro. Glad you had a great night.Remember we love you.Raining here today hope you have a clear enough day to go out. Don't get your feet wet. Thanks Alex

    Posted by: jane at October 1, 2006 2:04 PM

    Toby
    Thank you for your happy little verse to Barbaro every day!

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at October 1, 2006 2:05 PM

    Good Morning all FOB's and Alex!!

    Thanks always for the updates and incredible info. You are a special person to keep us all so connected. :-)

    Judy in Nazareth, PA
    Thanks for the link to the CalRacing. All I can say is WOW! Quite a Rush does look like Foggy and she is built like a brick house!! I will be watching her . . .

    Lighting candles for Big B, Foggy, and the Missouri horses as well as the humans who care.

    Carol
    San Diego

    Posted by: Carol at October 1, 2006 2:12 PM

    GOOD MORNING BOBBY GLAD TO HEAR YOU HAD ANOTHER GOOD NIGHT. HOPE YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD DAY AND STAY OUT A LONG TIME. REMEMBER TO EAT LOTS OF CLOVER. KEEP THINKING I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES. I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH YOU ARE THE GREATEST HORSE EVER AND THE MOST BEAUTIFUL.

    LOVE KATHY

    Posted by: KATHY - 8 at October 1, 2006 2:13 PM

    Good morning sweet Barbaro, ACN is a wonderful way to start the first day of October and it is a beautiful, sunny autumn morning with trees coloring already. Knowing you had a good night makes this beauty of a day even better. Butterfly kisses to you big guy.

    To the TWR family - Alex and all, have a wonderful Sunday.

    Posted by: Rosemary in Ohio at October 1, 2006 2:17 PM

    thank you alex for the excellent and compassionate links and detail for this past week and now , weekend in paris and abroad.
    beloved BARBARO,

    i think your white dot on the left ankle as noted by angel mary
    ..is another sign..that you come from the celestial world..a world..but in fact, many of your brohters and sisters are other worldly..too.
    .if i could melt into the woodwork i would choose ot sit in the corner of your stall--in the hay --against a wall--
    ..just listening..to your huffs and munches and imagining a smooth day for you , no pain and a lot of your favorite pals to visit and entertain you..=
    from bowls of hand piked grass to massages..and maybe an outside journey wiht michael
    . their hands, so learned with an energy that has such experience and wisdom in time--
    travelling through the halter..to you..
    you know their scents so well and their praivate prayers for your daily well being..i am sure you can read their minds before they even know what they want to say..
    i sense the philosopher in michael..and the knight in peter
    who is aorund your table 24-7..
    there are many of us in your kingdom of teh jackson farm..--
    to be cojnted on..
    today,
    thaks to angels in far away states
    i am able to catch up on photos of the hand of god and the sense of cosmic humor..
    ..through the filly flying down the stretch in the name of fog..
    the senate and their machinations ..of changing bills to onfuse the isssues.for us...and all the posturing .
    .we take a step back as many fans of barabaro wisely noted.
    . and watch their hand..and the nonsense becomes visible. stop look and listen is what i am doing now..
    barbaro,. we will get it
    ..I will follow the steps of the politicans and figure out on thier other activities what they put their name to--
    ..their combinations made in backrooms like hamburgers top heavy wiht too many toxic dressings..all bad for the heart..
    may your day be easeful and entertaining..a few pigs, a few camels, maybe some sheik can send sometig exciting that needs work and recooperation chez NBC icunit..
    m ay all the races unfolding now.
    be safe and wondefrfully fulfilling for horse ,rider, and onwners alike.
    'in light and in the dark
    , martita

    Posted by: martita goshen at October 1, 2006 2:19 PM

    Bernadini's owners have said their "dream" was to win the American races. I wonder if anyone has noticed that any horse running against Bernadini has come up sick or lame and theories surrounding:

    Barabaro breaks from the gate early (usually, would mean he is scratched, then breaks down)
    The horse at Saratoga supposed to beat Bernadini comes in second and then is retired due to a fetlock fracture (hmm, same type of fracture Barbaro had)
    now, Invasor comes up with a 103 temp and cannot make a scheduled practice and is now NOT running against Bernadini
    I believe I have seen a few other instances like this - conspiracy?????? Believe what you may.

    Posted by: TWR Fan at October 1, 2006 2:20 PM

    Judy, Thanks for the link!!! If Quite a Rush was a bay she would be Foggy's twin!!! What a nice little filly she is. I hope Mr Aleo and Mr Gilchrist have a lot of fun with her.

    Nice to hear the update Alex!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 2:20 PM

    TWR Fan...oh please, not 'The Conspiracy Theory' again! It's just too funny!! LOL

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 2:27 PM

    Good morning Bobby, Alex & Everyone! Glad to hear that you had another good night, Bobby! I guess you may be inside today, lots of rain here on the East Coast. But tomorrow is forecast to be a beautiful day! :)

    Have a good day, Bobby, and hope that everyone is having a good weekend! :)

    Posted by: Ruth Ann at October 1, 2006 2:40 PM

    It is so comforting each morning to find the positive update on sweet Barbaro. For thelast several months,it has become part of my daily routine to check the latest post in the morning. I take nothing for granted since Barbaro has a long way to go, but I am so grateful and heartened by his progress, and continue to pray and root for his full recovery.

    Posted by: Lorraine at October 1, 2006 2:55 PM

    ###
    Cindy A.
    Thanks!
    A lot of us got acquainted through late-night bouts of insomnia, etc. We never mean to be cliquish.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at October 1, 2006 2:56 PM

    good morning folks:

    CANDLE ALERT: Bobby is under 1000

    Please light candles for Bobby, Erin, Mike, Shelley, BDude, Daisy, Foggy, and all our human and animal friends who need our help.

    Thanks to Tim & Alex for the site& updates.

    Steve
    FOB

    Posted by: steve at October 1, 2006 3:01 PM

    Thank you God for Bobby's right and perfect healing, and for his complete recovery. Thank you God that miracle follows miracle, and wonders never cease.

    Magnificent Steed! Another day closer.

    The Light of God surrounds you
    The Love of God enfolds you
    The Power of God Protects you
    The Presence of God watches over you
    Wherever you are Bobby, God IS.

    Love, Light and Protection for Bobby

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 3:04 PM

    Lord God, wrap S1915 in Divine Love and Divine Order. Open the heart of every member of the Senate to clearly hear the voice of the horse, and feel the Magnificent Spirit of the horse. Compel each member to immediately move S1915 to the floor in a right and perfect way, and then vote with their hearts and their conscience for the highest good of all.

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys (always)

    God Bless and Protect Us and all of The Horses

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 3:05 PM

    This is about my trip to GGF's yesterday.

    Sadly I didn't stay for the tribute itself to Foggy. But I had really interesting day.

    The first thing that happened after I paid my 6 dollars was they put a Foggy dvd into my hands. I haven't as yet watched my copy. They showed his races yesterday and people still cheered when he won even though it was tape they were watching. It was nice to see people cheering the same way I would. Didn't make me feel so different!

    I was at the saddling paddock and learned something about schooling in the paddock. I learned that if a horse comes in without a number hooked to their bridle they are just "schooling". But I saw at least one horse come from the isolation barn (?--the one where they put horses before their race.

    I saw one of the prettiest grays ever. I have a pic of this horse and it just doesn't do justice to this horse.

    There was a man talking to two women and all of a sudden he said something about meet me here (place)and I will take you to see my horses. I think my eyes bugged out! All I know is my hands came up in prayer position and I must have had a look on my face (me too! me too!)! He asked me if I wanted to go too. Oooh Yeah. Count me in.

    I got to see Nick's horses. He has this two year old Commendable's Quest (take a guess who the daddy is?--if you said or thought Commendable--you're right!). Pretty little chesnut filly. Her first race is in about a month or so. He had one horse he was training for an outside owner. He's an owner/trainer. And then he had this horse Eliminator. I think I fell in love! This horse was nosing me all over (according to Nick he does that to everyone cause he's a love bucket). When he raised his nose to my face I started kissing his soft muzzle. He raised his lip (it tickled or he was laughing at me!)

    I got to feed a couple of carrots. Just like when I was a kid. Hand flat and you let the horse take the carrot. I never worried at all.

    I could have forgotten time and to eat lunch. It felt so natural to be back around horses.

    GEVA is Glen Ellen Vocational Academy. They are located in Sonoma County. If you buy CA wines from a Sonoma Winery its the same place.

    They take in retired, injured TB's or one is that is just looking for a good home. Their web addy is glenellenfarms.com. Look for GEVA at the top. So there horses are use to people handling them and there fine about it.

    I'd like to think that Foggy was happy that I had a wonderful day seeing some his friends from GGF's. Contributing a bit to GEVA. And getting to meet some his trackside buddies.

    Michael's Miracle

    Margaret

    Posted by: Margaret at October 1, 2006 3:12 PM

    Good morning Starshine, and congrats on achieving a milestone ACW! Have a great day, baby.

    Good morning Barbaro Nation!

    Posted by: Susan E. at October 1, 2006 3:21 PM

    Alex
    Thank you for the Sunday update.

    Bobby
    ACN for you magnificent horse. You have a good day under God's protecion, as He continues you miraculous healing.

    Posted by: Susan in TX at October 1, 2006 3:24 PM

    Wow Margaret - what a great day yhou had.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 3:25 PM

    MARILYN/CA

    You are ABSOLUTELY correct! The Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act S3880 has nothing to do with us or our mission.

    It would be a huge mistake to even mention the subject. The last thing that we want is for anyone to think that we are even remotely connected to the groups this bill is directed towards.

    I believe that we have to do exactly what we've been doing....politely calling and writing to get co-sponsors and contacting Frist's office to move our bill S1915.

    Melissa Harden's message confirms exactly what I was told weeks ago. They are on schedule with a plan and it was never going to be before the recess. This time is a gift for us....it will allow us to gather the support we need so that it can be passed at the right time. But we must NOT veer off course.

    PLEASE, do not go down that road. Mentioning the Animal Enterprise Terrorism bill can do us nothing but HARM! If we are construed as sympathizers to people who commit these acts, we loose all credibility.

    MARILYN, thank you for asking my opinion.

    Posted by: shelleyA at October 1, 2006 3:26 PM

    Good morning Barbaro. I've been having computer problems and was afraid I wouldn't get to check on you like I normally do. I have not missed a day of checking on you except when I was in the hospital (and that was only 1 day). I know you will continue the miracle that we are witnessing. I pray you stay safe and free of pain.

    Ashley

    Posted by: Ashley at October 1, 2006 3:26 PM

    Margaret, What a great day you had yesterday!! I would love to have that happen to me at the track. When I go to the Fairgrounds I watch in the paddock but have never gone to the stable area to look at the horses.

    It's my understanding that they don't allow fans to see the horses in their stalls. I wish I had a connection there so I could have an insiders tour. That would be GREAT!!
    I enjoyed your post, thanks.

    Hey, Maybe if I tell them I am a member of the FOB I'll get an inside tour!! Barbaro's name does open doors!!

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 3:32 PM

    Holy Roman Emperor just had a fantastic win!! His daddy would be proud. So sad he's not with us any more.

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 3:32 PM

    Good Morning Alex -

    Thanks as always for another good update. I just can't start my day without hearing from you. I pray that Barbaro will have another good, healing day. Thanks to you and everyone helping him on this journey.

    Posted by: Pam Mross at October 1, 2006 3:32 PM

    Shelley A. (and everyone)

    Thank you. I will be out all morning, but I have a feeling this issue may keep coming up all day. I will try to put out this particular fire whenever I can, by asking people not to worry about the Animal Enterprise Terrorism bill and not to mention it at all in their correspondence or contacts with the senators' office; maybe others here in the Comments section can help with it also, and just keep referring people to your post at 3:26.

    Thank you for addressing this so promptly. It relieves my mind considerably that you are on record here, before I have to leave the house.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at October 1, 2006 3:33 PM

    Barbaro-good morning champ! Have a great day today. I hope everyone has great day. will be back later.gotta light candles.

    Posted by: Dora J Crow from Montgomery, Alabama at October 1, 2006 3:33 PM

    HI everyone....haven't read the posts, but wanted to post this in case JO (UK) is hanging around....

    Belmont Park October 1 Race 9 Jerome Breeders' Cup H.
    Discreet Cat Classic/Sprint

    I AM SO EXCITED....ooooooooooooo!

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 3:35 PM

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    JO...I SEE YOU...DISCREET CAT IS RUNNING TODAY!

    see my post above....

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 3:36 PM

    The racing is on from France on HRTV now

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at October 1, 2006 3:38 PM

    Hey, Pam! I can hardly contain my excitement!!
    GO CAT GO!!!!! :-D

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 3:38 PM

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    Jo (uk) I am sure Mike C knows...he loves this horse too...wish he would chime in with his glee...I swear...I am getting tingly...!!!!

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 3:39 PM

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    Jo (UK) sorry to post so much,guys, but I have a really dumb question....when GEORGE WASHINGTON (oooo love that horse) and the others come over to Churchill to race....I assume they are running clockwise? Is that correct?

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 3:43 PM

    I am watching HRTV waiting to watch Deep Impact hopefully win. I have always supported Sunday Silence offspring. I really hated when he was sold to Japan. He was such a champion!!

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 3:44 PM

    Happy October everyone.

    Barbaro, thus begins another comfortable month (ACM). I know your October will be filled with glorious journeys outside in crisp autumn air to enjoy your grazing. I hope you see lots of cows, goats, and many wonderful things to attract your attention. One day at a time baby, one comfortable day at a time.

    Let us all use this first day of ACM to refresh ourselves and prepare for more phone calls, faxes, e-mails, etc, in our quest to be successful.

    We're doing this for you Barbaro, and all the horses.

    Posted by: Skyler at October 1, 2006 3:44 PM

    Bobby you have a great day! Check on you later, love you sweet boy!

    Posted by: SueH at October 1, 2006 3:49 PM

    Pamela...not if your guys are running anti-clockwise!
    I'm getting very nervous about George travelling across the pond...
    I guarantee that Mike will know about Discreet Cat ;-)

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 3:50 PM

    Pride is beautiful!! Is anybody watching Longchamp?

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 3:52 PM

    Well Jo, if you guys can learn to drive on the wrong side of the road, I bet he can learn to run round backwards. ;) ....grew up in OZ

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at October 1, 2006 3:53 PM

    Hay everone

    Whats this about Discreet Cat racing today? In France? Or have I not had enough coffee?????

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 3:53 PM

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    Boy, Japan is really supporting Deep Impact! I hope they don't eat him if he loses!

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 3:54 PM

    Those silks on Deep Impact almost looked like Lael!

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at October 1, 2006 3:56 PM

    Laura...now wouldn't that be a funny site! lol

    Sally...Belmont Park, race 9, 5.12pm :-)

    Cindy...that thought has crossed my mind, and I'm not joking! :-/

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 3:57 PM

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    Cindy A.
    It's funny because it's horrible.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at October 1, 2006 3:57 PM

    Good morning sweet Barbaro!
    October 1st...hard to believe. It's raining here in NY; hope the weather is a little better down by you, and that you get to graze a bit today.
    I'm sooooo happy that you're comfortable and content. Keep healing buddy; you're so smart, you know what you have to do to get better. Grow hoof, grow!!!! Have a great day, with plenty of your favorite carrots, muffins, scratches, and hugs.
    Love always,
    Kelly XOXOXOXO

    Posted by: Kelly at October 1, 2006 3:59 PM

    Shirocco's looking good, and I love Hurricane Run!

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 4:00 PM

    Judy in Nazareth, PA at October 1, 2006 2:01 PM

    Quite a Rush's 2x greatgrandmother was Ruffian's mom...

    Christian

    Posted by: Christian at October 1, 2006 4:02 PM

    I know, it was a joke but probably in poor taste. I don't understand how they can love horses and racing like they do then eat horse meat.

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 4:03 PM

    Go Deep Impact--your dad is watching on his day (Sunday) Silence.

    Posted by: TerryL at October 1, 2006 4:05 PM

    How fantastic!!! Rail Link got it!!! :-D

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 4:08 PM

    Can I just say America needs to do their camera work like that, I felt like I was on the track!

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at October 1, 2006 4:08 PM

    Rail Link
    Pride
    Deep Impact

    Look how proud Rail Link looks! And Pride did so well...I'm so happy for that little girl! :-)

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 4:10 PM

    RE SCHOOLING:

    When you see a horse without a number,schooling in the paddock, look at the bridle. 9 of 10 times their name is on the plate on the bridle. I found quite a few nice horses this way. If you ask the walker they may also tell you the horses name if you cant read the bridle..

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 4:13 PM

    Rail Link ran a great race, beautiful horse! Deep Impact ran a good race too, I thought he had it there for a minute. This horse racing gets your heart pumping doesn't it?

    Well, let me go get my chores done, be back later.

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 4:14 PM

    the japanese horse looked very normal to me in the ARC...ran a poor third..

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 4:14 PM

    XXXXX
    Christian,

    Yes! I noted that also, when I checked her pedigree. Shenanigans was a beautiful gray, and mom to many greats - of course Ruffian was a favorite of mine.

    I remember seeing and rooting for Judith's Wild Rush (1/2 sibling to Quite a Rush out of Wild Rush) in a race on ESPN not long ago. He didn't win, but I though
    his name was cool :)

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy in Nazareth, PA at October 1, 2006 4:15 PM

    This scrum around Rail Link is crazy, he is very calm

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at October 1, 2006 4:15 PM

    I think that Hurricane Run could have been a danger if he'd found a gap, but he was unlucky.

    Did you hear the Japanese commentary?? lol

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 4:17 PM

    What a Race! Rail Link ran an awesome race. Deep Impact nothing to be ashamed for.

    Laura in Key West--I can't agree with you more; fantastic camera work. In fact, all coverage this morning from Longchamp was (is) truly vivid, relevant, and entertaining.

    Posted by: TerryL at October 1, 2006 4:20 PM

    RE CONSPIRACY..

    thats hogwash..BUT when Bernardini wins the Gold Cup, against ANOTHER weak bunch and all the writers say he's secretariat re-incarnate, I will still say he's a good horse, just like CIGAR..he's beating up on all competition.BUT still hasnt beat a good horse..

    He hasnt run against a horse of SKIP AWAY's talent nevermind being mentioned with teh likes of the BIG ONES..

    Times run is irrelevant when you beat NOBODY,,thats why harness horses set time records in non-betting events with only one horse running...

    WHEN and IF he beats a grade 1 winner, then let me know..until then all means SQUAT.

    Im not saing he's a bad horse, just OVERRATED.

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 4:20 PM

    Did anyone else pay attention to the tongue issue on Deep Impact?..Did they ever fix it? Was it Deep Impact or am I wrong? You know how I fixate on horsey tongues...hehe

    Cindy A...the only thing bad about what you said is that I DIDN'T THINK OF IT MYSELF....thank goodness I wasn't drinking coffee! You are a riot.

    Jo (UK) for some reason I thought it was an all Euro race...Good Grief...I think that'll be a hard thing to adjust to, don't you?

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 4:21 PM

    WHY godolphin is not running DISCREET CAT in the breeders cup ias beyond me..

    IF not in the classic...then the sprint...he's that good..kind of like Precisionist..won from 6f to the classic distances..

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 4:22 PM

    Good morning all and to all a good day : You, too, beautiful Barbaro who opens all doors and lets the sun shine in, the emotions flow, the passions arise... Thank you for introducing us to a whole new world, a world we may make better, and a place where the suffering may find solace.


    I too enjoyed a heartfelt day at GGF yesterday. Arriving way early, because this day's import had been on my mind every minute since arriving home to the news of Fog's departure, I purchased my ticket and took it right to the table for the Fog DVD, where I couldn't talk for the tears. I wasn't the last person they saw in tears... But it is hard not to have moments of true pleasure as well around such beautiful and intense horses at this lovely racetrack, with a fall day of early fog and later sunshine off the East Bay hills and the Golden Gate (they have the best restrooms in the known world, on the third level with huge windows looking direct out across the Bay at the Golden Gate Bridge - worth a trip itself!).

    The races were interspersed with replays of Fog's races, with full audio so everyone at the track could hear. The day was one on extreme highs and lows - from recognition of loss to celebration of Harry Aleo and Greg Gilchrist's Quite a Rush in the third race, as many of you have noted, running away from a field of 11 fillies (including her stablemate, Trippie Bree, also trained by Greg Gilchrist, who came in second - impressive for Greg!).

    I had ordered a Foggy Forever T-Shirt from Ernie (Covino) here, and it arrived in 2 days from NY, just in time for me to take it with me to GGF for the other Fan of Barbaro I was meeting to wear (I already had my Delgado Fog T-shirt). After the touching ceremony for Fog, (many ears were wiped away, which may not have shown on the TV coverage) during which Greg thanked everyone for the cards, letters, carrots - and he said even songs - we were walking around when an usher in the upper areas spotted Ernie's Foggy T-shirt with the beautiful photo, and said we had to show Harry. He literally dragged us to meet Harry, and we had a wonderful conversation with him and his wife. He said he still cannot believe all the cards and letters he has received, and his wife asked if we knew he answered all of them. I told them, WE KNEW, and thanked him again for their careful and compassionate guardianship of Fog. They loved this horse without reservation, and said again they just cannot believe this journey they have been on with Fog. They were very happy about Quite a Rush, but the bittersweet nature of the day was obvious. Over and over, we heard from everyone - including the USHER, who must have been at GGF for 110 years - that these are very real, very down to earth, wonderful people. For the last two races, Harry and his wife sat alone in their box in the upper stands, looking directly at the finish line and the beautiful wreaths with the banner celebrating Fog from the Fans of Barbaro.

    For those of you with "Virtual Stable", you might want to follow Harry and Greg's three horses:

    QUITE A RUSH - 2 year old filly
    VICARINO - 2 year old colt (lost by a whisker on Friday)
    SMOKEY STOVER - Gelding racing today, GGF, Race 8

    It was a touching day, and the Fans of Barbaro were well in evidence and recognized by many as a Force for Good. I think that ideal was also echoed by Greg Gilchrist in his comments which basically said, don't feel sorry for Fog, but rather learn from him, BE LIKE HIM.

    And this morning in the SF Chronicle, in the same article about Fog, there is a highlighted box with "A Message from Barbaro's Owners" - Gretchen and Roy Jackson's letter. What more could one ask?

    Love to you all. Thank you, Barbaro. And you, too, Fog. We do miss you, but your inspiration will continue.

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 4:23 PM

    Good Morning Champ! Hope you have another wonderful day. Enjoy your grazing and don't drag Dr.R around too much. Love you lots big guy.

    xoxoxox

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    Lots of racing today!! Hey Mike C move over and share the lazy boy! Jo, Pam, D'anne?? Roll call!!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at October 1, 2006 4:24 PM

    TerryL, I am going to be spoiled now watching racing again from the long lens perspective. I want to be riding on the horse beside the jockeys and with the steady cam down the stretches forever!


    Hey Alex, can you give us Yanks, some background on this race, apparently it is a big race like The Derby is here in The States.

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at October 1, 2006 4:24 PM

    shelly..

    very nice info..great stuff..thank you for your report.

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 4:24 PM

    LAURA,

    THH "ARC"...is the second greatest race in the "world:, second only to the Kentucky Derby..

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 4:26 PM

    TWR Fan,

    I really don't think anyone wants to win by doing something to an opponent. Bernardini is a fantastic horse and his connections would not want their rivals to get hurt so they can win. The better horses that they beat, the better their horse looks. This conspiracy theory has no merit. We all know that racehorses come down with tweaks and fevers, etc., all the time.

    Nothing Bernardini or Discreet Cat or Invasor (or any other horse) does will EVER take away from Barbaro's brilliant career! Barbaro will always be #1 in my heart, but look at Bernardini; he's handsome, brave, and he's been super in some of his races. Give him his due. He's a good boy, too!

    Morning Bobby, Have a great day! I hope the sun comes out and you get to graze in the beautiful outdoors. May peppermints and greentops be aplenty on this Sunday! Love you, boy, always!

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy B at October 1, 2006 4:26 PM

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    Don't you love the way the Euros take the horses out...very relaxed...nice warmup...love the circle behind the gate...just a pleasure all around...

    When are our networks gonna catch up to Euro standards on camera work in horse racing...even their audio was spectacular...

    Mike C...Thank you, once again, for bringing up the big Bernardini super-hype...I TOTALLY agree and have been bent outta shape about the hype over him...Would give anything to see Bernardini and Discreet Cat run (Can you say a** whoopin'?)

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 4:29 PM

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    Oh yeah, remember Declan's Moon?? Was scoped for a bleed?? Well he has worked out, I suspect the lung infection is cleared up. This is good news!

    Also Miraculous Miss worked as well! Can't wait to see her again!!

    Race 6 - Delaware - Jacksons/Matz cool colt - Suprise Inside, is running with Jose Caraballo up!

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at October 1, 2006 4:31 PM

    Shelley in CA, oh my goodness, I am bawling like a baby at your report. Thank you for that, I am so happy that you had the chance to speak with Mr and Mrs Aleo. What wonderful owners. It must have been a bittersweet day for them. This Barbaro Effect is quite astounding. Who knew that his accident would cause the waves in this world that it has. That ripple continues to build to a Tsunami of a still unknown magnitude.

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at October 1, 2006 4:33 PM

    Pamela...I'd think that they'd be doing some kind of training with the Breeder's Cup contenders here to get them prepared for running the wrong way ;-)

    Hi, Shannon!! About time you joined us! :-)

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 4:35 PM

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    Hey Shannon...Good to see you joined us on the rail!

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 4:38 PM

    lets see bernardini in a race like the Belmont of Smarty Jones, the the "great"(scarcasm) Jerry "beetle" Bailey pushed Smarty in a very questionable ride by JB(ethical)..in a speed duel he could'nt overcome and got beat by Birdstone..

    GET A RABBIT TO RUN AGAINST HIM..LETS SEE SOME OLD TIME RACING HERE..

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 4:38 PM

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    Shelly in CA

    Thank you for your account from yesterday. I feel like I was there (I was in spirit). I've been proudly wearing my Delgado T-shirt here in PA :)

    Posted by: Judy in Nazareth, PA at October 1, 2006 4:39 PM

    Shelley in CA thank you for sharing your day at GGF with us. I hope that Fog's star might shine a bright orange some nights, so that Harry might spot it.

    Posted by: TerryL at October 1, 2006 4:39 PM

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    Shelley in CA and Margaret - Thank you so much for your accounts of your Saturday at GGF. What special memories you both now have of the day and the Fog. He was a special horse and we all have been very fortunate to share our earth with so many special horses.

    Proud member, Fans of Barbaro

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at October 1, 2006 4:41 PM

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    OK...did I just see a horsey with cotton (or something) stuck in his ears? (and NO...I am not drinking)

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 4:42 PM

    Shelley in CA - thank you for your wonderful post about yesterday. Thank you.

    God Bless The Fog

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 4:44 PM

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    ...is it just markings or Ipod ear buds?

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 4:46 PM

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 4:48 PM

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    I like Cat and Bernardini but don't forget about Jazil!! I hope he heals soon, been watching for a workout.. one day soon I hope! Can't wait for him to return.

    Posted by: Shannon & Zeena at October 1, 2006 4:50 PM

    they just put the hood on the 6 horse in france...to get it in the gate..

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 4:51 PM

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    Judy/Shelley - what is a Delgado t-shirt? Is it of The Fog?

    God Bless The Fog

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 4:52 PM

    Another short but very much more serious note about Lost in the Fog: I didn't want to include it in my comments about the wonderful and emotional celebration of his life at GGF yesterday.

    When we first arrived at GGF, we spent some time talking with Tom Chapman, a 20 year jockey who has retired and is now successfully pursuing his (less hard on the body) dream career in art. We walked up to his display of fabulous paintings of - of course - Fog and many other horses, beautiful racing depictions and, right in the middle, unintentional he said, a poignant sunset lit painting of a dark bay being led away with his groomer, entitled "The Way Home" which again brought tears to my eyes. Tom said, "Don't cry, I didn't mean for you to cry." He is a very sensitive painter. This painting and many of his others are at his website,

    www/chapman-arts.com

    Now for the bad news: He asked us if we knew that the young filly (he said two years old) who was a big Canadian winner and was stabled next to Fog at Belmont for the Breeder's Cup, also developed the same cancer and has already died. These two horses were apparently at the end of a section of stable - by themselves. That area had apparently been sprayed with rat poison two weeks before. The other factor is that this type of cancer (as stated by Tom and also by Harry Aleo's wife) can be triggered by a virus. So - ? This type of cancer is found in some very small percentage of horses, apparently less than 1%. What are the odds? My question is just what part of this could have been prevented? Or should these factors at least be examined for evidence of triggers for this type of disease? Life is risky, we know that. Harry's wife said they knew Fog wasn't right when he went out to race at the Breeder's Cup. Could the poison have had toxicities that were not known, or perhaps the dosage was misapplied? Or, is it possible a virus was somehow contagious and immediate in its effects? Would or could there be any connection between these facts? (Why don't they just hire more stable cats???)

    I don't want to engage in idle speculation but since this information is "out there", and we have so many knowledgeable people here, it might be useful to someone somewhere. And if it could be useful to some HORSE somewhere sometime, I'm for it.

    Thanks for any feedback - this is nagging, and even the Aleos find it nagging...

    Shelley in Ca

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 4:53 PM

    Shelly in Ca

    I had no idea that the 10 horse in race 3 was Harry's and Greg's. I know I saw them after the race. I just didn't put it together.

    Remember I never saw Foggy race in real life. I'm just horse crazy--like does a trainer need someone to come in and give lots of love to his horses? That's me.

    I think she was the horse that went on to win by 7 lengths or something? Impressive win.

    Commendable's Quest is another won to put in your virtual barn. Her first start won't be for several weeks but Nick seems to think she's going to be a good won.

    Michael's Miracle

    Margaret


    Barbaro and Foggy thank you. I haven't been to the races in a number of years. Barbaro thank you because of your fighting determination to win. Foggy thank you. You are a champ. And getting to rewatch your races yesterday at the track was a touching tribute to you. I only wish that the tv stations had talked this up more. But I got to meet some of your buddies and that was a lot of fun for me.

    Posted by: Margaret at October 1, 2006 4:55 PM

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    Shelley in CA...that sounds just too coincidental to me...I don't think he would have told you the story if he didn't think it was suspicious too...
    Living things and poisons DONT MIX...

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 4:58 PM

    I want you all to know that I am very jealous that I cannot watch the races today that you all are watching. I called Dish TV and DirectTV - good deals available but then I have to deal with my highspeed internet access from Comcast. Both of the above companies offer it for an extemely high cost. So here I am - green as can be. Just wanted to share my misery!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 4:59 PM

    Again Shelley - thank you. I've heard the same thing. I heard it was Knights Templar - but I don't know if that is correct.

    God Bless The Fog

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 5:00 PM

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    Mary A

    Here's the link to Fog T-shirt. There are still some left.

    http://www.painteroflegends.com/lostinthefog.html

    I love mine!

    Posted by: Judy in Nazareth, PA at October 1, 2006 5:00 PM

    ### Shelley in California - thank you so much for the account of your poignant trip to GGF yesterday ..... Fog's Day ! I had considered making the trip from Arizona to be there - but decided, instead, to visit the Philadelphia area in a few weeks ....... to meet as many of the NBC staff, KF - as possible - and hopefully spend a little time at Fair Hill taking in the fall air -
    and absorbing the "Barbaro aura" already there - and what has been talked about - talked to - and revealed in our zillions of postings - and in the sharing of info from Alex, RAchel and all !!
    And so - IF I couldn't be there - you guys did a grand job of "bringing it to us." Thank you !
    Thank you !
    Safe racing to all the beautiful 4-leggeds today -
    and a joyous Sunday to my fellow FOB's.

    Sherry - Arizona

    Posted by: Sherry Van Wagoner at October 1, 2006 5:01 PM

    Sally...can you bundle your internet with your phone service instead of with your TV...I know Bell South lets you bundle phone,internet AND Direct TV...

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 5:01 PM

    Weird Shelley:

    I was talking to someone yesterday about this same thing. I didn't know about the other two year old. My conversation was along the lines of--cancer is a virus. How do we know that Fog didn't pick this up somewhere. You know like a cold?

    We know in humans that cancer can be caused by so many things (emotional upset can be a trigger, environmental, exposure somehow etc).

    Could it be possible that that rat poison somehow set off cancer? I know that in pet rats--once they get a tumor its pretty much over. If they do surgery--it can set of other unknown tumors in their little bodies.

    How sad if this could have been avoided. But maybe in a way this will make others take note of how careful they need to be with toxic chemicals.

    Michael's Miracle

    Margaret

    Posted by: Margaret at October 1, 2006 5:03 PM

    Mary S -

    God Bless YOU for all your prayers... your prayers have made me a believer in you, and they bring me to tears.

    Armando Delgado is a wonderful artist of sports figures and horse racing. HE was also at GGF yesterday, with his paintings and T-shirts. He has a wonderful tribute to Fog on his website, and is the painter of maybe the most famous depiction of Fog, showing him racing across the Golden Gate Bridge, out of the fog, leading the field!

    I ordered a T-shirt from him after we learned Fog was sick, and he not only autographed it but also later sent an email with updated news about the Fog. I think he loved him, too.

    His website is

    http://www.painteroflegends.com/

    Happy Sunday.


    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 5:06 PM

    Happy first Sunday in October to carrot chomping champion Barbaro Jackson, HOF!

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    Jo (UK) Mike C
    Go Cat Go.
    From Maid M: Discreet Cat was born just about 48 hours after Barbaro. [Perfect Drift's birthday is the same day (29 April) different year]
    For Maid M: Does anybody have a d.o.b. for Quite A Rush?

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at October 1, 2006 5:08 PM

    Does anyone know if Suprise Inside has race yet? I know it's either the 6th or 8th race, I think. I wish they had a live cam!!! ARGH!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 5:08 PM

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    Shelley in CA...This is really bugging me...I wonder if someone at UC Davis is familiar with this...? Since this cancer is so rare in horses...they may be interested in tracking The Fog's history including exposure to toxins. Since you are in CA...there must be some scientist out there who can provide the info...Hmmmmmm.........

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 5:12 PM

    Pam - I don't have a home phone - just cell - it would be more expensive than what I am paying.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 5:13 PM

    Thank you Judy for the link.

    Shelley - thank you for your comments. I didn't know about Delgado. I just ordered mine, and yes - it does bring tears. I love you always Fog.


    God Bless The Fog

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 5:14 PM

    Shelley, Thats very upsetting news. If there is a connection between those two horses I hope it is discovered!

    MIKE C, I know it happens but why would an owner or trainer run an expensive horse as a rabbit? They're not going to make any money and they may get hurt. Seems like it could be costly?
    Also, what is your opinion of Deep Impact, not just todays race, overall.

    I'm asking you this because you seem knowledgeable and honest with your thoughts.

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 5:15 PM

    As someone said at GGF yesterday, isn't rat poison what was used by some woman to poison her various husbands? If it kills, it's toxic. I wonder what the standards are for stables, whether the local barn out on the rural roads or the prestigous racetrack?

    Alex, have you any idea what standards are in place for Fair Hill, if any? (I don't mean Fair Hill doesn't have standards!! Far from it, probably the highest in the business!! But are there any actual protocols for this type of housekeeping?)

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 5:18 PM

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    Pamela--My favorite horse in the classics, most likely lesser known than many, is Gate Dancer (he ran 3 or 4 times in Nebraska and owner was from Iowa). GD had I think, ADD; and the great trainer, Jack Van Berg had a hood fabricated, similar to blinkers, only used without eye cups, but with ear muffs added to minimize crowd noise and help with his focus--he was quite as sight to see with his unique equipment. Gate Dancer went on to win Preakness, Super Derby, and ran in first 2 Breeder Cup Classic(finished 3rd and 2nd). The first Classic was indeed a classic as Wild Again, and Slew O'Gold were blanketed at the finish.

    Couple of other thoughts re Gate Dancer--if he cound have found a way to run in a straight line, may have been more highly regarded in history, as at the time he was the only horse in Kentucky Derby history to be disqualified, and DQed in BC Classic as well. His Preakness win in 1984 was second fastest ever at that time, even as he weaved. And finally, his Super Derby win was by a wisker over Precisionist--maybe a case for not shaving prior to a race! (BTW, Precisionist got revenge in 1985 twice at Santa Anita.)

    Posted by: TerryL at October 1, 2006 5:19 PM

    Pamela I just checked Bellsouth - the package to get HTV would be $99.99 just for TV service - not including internet, phone, etc. Too rich for my blood.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 5:20 PM

    Any report on Sharp Writer??

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 5:21 PM

    Friar Tuck...
    I can't wait!!! Not surprising that we love all three of these guys :-)

    Where's FOB these days? I have no idea where to find these birthdays...wish I did!

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 5:24 PM

    Lynda...Surprise Inside is race 6 at Delaware, post time 3pm

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 5:26 PM

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    Terry L...what a great story! I loved every bit of it...!I find his DQ in the Derby rather charming...hehe, but I have a wicked sense of humor...

    Sally...that is highway robbery...they know they have a captive audience down there...gggrrrrr

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 5:26 PM

    Jo, thank you very much. I dont think I am going to be awake at that time, but I will try.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 5:27 PM

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    YEAH where is FOB?

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 5:27 PM

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    Friar Tuck-Quite a Rush's pedigree only gives year of birth as 2004, it does not give foaling date.

    Posted by: Dora J Crow from Montgomery, Alabama at October 1, 2006 5:27 PM

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    Friar Tuck-you can always go to Pedigreequery.com to info on d.o.b. for the thoroughbreds, thats where I have been going. Some even shows pix.

    Posted by: Dora J Crow from Montgomery, Alabama at October 1, 2006 5:30 PM

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    Opps!--meant to say "The first Classic was indeed a classic as Wild Again, Gate Dancer, and Slew O'Gold were blanketed at the finish."

    BTW, Gate Dancer is my favorite, Barbaro is my Hero.

    Posted by: TerryL at October 1, 2006 5:33 PM

    If any of you are interested in following Graham Motion's horses, he has two running in race 2 at Delaware Park, coming up soon at 1.12pm

    Try To Remember and In For A Dime

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 5:36 PM

    Pamie - I sent comcast an email and asked them to add one of the two horse channels. Maybe I will get lucky

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 5:37 PM

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    Dora Crow:
    Thank you.

    Jo (UK) Pamela:
    Good question.

    Paging FOB: If I know Maid M she's looking for a month and a day on Quite A Rush as well. Her resemblance to Fog is uncanny.


    Posted by: Friar Tuck at October 1, 2006 5:39 PM

    Shelley in CA -- Gosh, this is the first I'd heard of the posssibilities you conveyed on how Fog may have contracted lymphoma. Is there any way to find out what the substance was that was sprayed? OSHA regulations might mean records are kept, and if it was a subcontractor they'd have records. Gosh.


    There are all sorts of studies linking lawn chems with higher rates of canine cancers, which is why we're proud of our weeds here in this yard! And the chems for rodents are even stronger. More big barn kitties -- my guy would love to volunteer.

    The "synergy" with a virus and chemicals... the problem with safety studies for drugs and chems in general -- nobody tests random combinations of hits to the immune system. Sweden reports reduced national cancer rates from their initiative reducing pesticide exposure. Thanks again for bringing this to the boards... perhaps it will save a life.

    Posted by: Susan in Saratoga at October 1, 2006 5:39 PM

    HI to all from CA
    I Wanted to share a bit of my excitement of yesterday's trip to Golden Gate Fields. (Shelly - I saw a Foggy Forever tee shirt there - it muct have been you) Just a couple of personal notes:

    The day was beautiful in the bay area, a crisp 65 degrees. It was my first time to the race track and now I know first hand the reason for its name. As you look out across the bay from the entrance of the Clubhouse, there is a spectacular view of the Golden Gate Bridge is all its glory. Inside, the track and grounds are beautiful with flowers and ponds. I also visited the art exhibits and bought myself a Delgado lithograph of Lost in the Fog racing across the GGBridge leaving the rest of the horses "in the fog". I visited the GEVA volunteers and they shared a bit about their resuce shelter for retired horses - a worthy cause to be sure.

    In between races, there were recordings of LITF races that played out over the grandstand. I couldn't help but see The Fog racing around that track in my mind and heart. I was a little disappionted that more people were not there to pay tribute to The Fog, but I was proud to see the two beautiful horseshoe wreaths down by the winners circle with a banner that said,
    "For a Warrior and a Champion We Love You Lost in the Fog
    From Fans of Barbaro".
    My husband, a retired photographer, took lots of pictures of the races and got a great shot of that beautiful Gray horse mentioned above. WOW!!

    And my final special moment to share - I had noticed a small flock of geese flying in and out of the ponds and water features in the center of the field. Just as the service for LITF ended, that small flock of geese came out of nowhere and flew down low right over the winners circle. It was as if they were doing a flyby. And instead of an even 10 (geese mate for life) there were 9 - one was missing. For me it was magical - and truly a day to remember.

    Posted by: Robbie in Fresno, CA at October 1, 2006 5:41 PM

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    Jo: Dang, Graham is cutting in to football watching time today :)LOL. Thanks for the reminder; he's got his horses scorchin' the tracks as well from FH. Good Luck to both.

    Posted by: TerryL at October 1, 2006 5:43 PM

    Robbie - any chance you could post some of the photos your hubby took - like the wreath one and perhaps the geese doing the flyby? I would love to see them.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 5:44 PM

    Sally...I upgraded my Sky yesterday just in time for last night's racing. I HAD to see The Tin Man, Perfect Drift and so many others! I don't get all the races I'd like but I had such last night watching your racing with you, and I should have upgraded weeks ago!

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 5:45 PM

    I heard a little while ago something about Deep Impact having his bit on wrong. What in the world are they talking about? Anybody know?

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 5:46 PM

    Graham Motion got 1st and 2nd with his baby girls! Congratulations to all!

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 5:47 PM

    Jo, let us know how they did!! Mr Motion needs to win some races. He only wins 12% of the time at Delaware. Mr Matz has a 20% win percentage.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 5:47 PM

    I'm trying to come up with ideas. Do I get a home phone so I can get high speed DSL and get direct TV - I think it would be cheaper - not sure but I will definately look into it this week. I am really jeolous I can't watch today. The doplfins are playing the houston team in NFL and its boring as hell. So horse racing would be a good pick me up right now. Thank god for Formula One racing in a little while or I would be driving up to Laura in Key West's house to watch racing.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 5:47 PM

    Oh good!!!! Congrats to Graham Motion.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 5:48 PM

    CINDY..

    Trainers don't use top caliber horses as rabbits, they usually use mid clas allowance types that are pure speed horses..the horses usually return sound cause they only run for 6 furlongs on the lead, when they tire they usually get wrapped up(stopped) by the jocks and just jog home usually beat by 50+ lengths,

    It was common practice to try to beat great horses, thats what made the great ones great. they beat very good horses even when these tactics weredeployesd against them..


    As far as Deep Impact goes..his record was pretty darn good...his breeding is impeccable...this was his first race outside Japan..just mark it up as a learing experience...IF he runs the way he ran today next out outside of Japan, then I wouldnt think as much of him.,..he gets a pass today.

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 5:50 PM

    Pamela,

    I'm hoping the vets at UC Davis were aware of Fog's history with toxins and also with Knights Templar (if she is the filly who also suffered this disease), not because it would have made a difference in his treatment but because it might add to their fund of knowledge and expertise. I know we have been immunizing our dogs and cats far beyond anything necessary for (at least) the last 40 years and they are only recognizing this in the veterinary profession. Perhaps now, when faced with very real and immediate dangers from our man-made compounds ostensibly designed to protect us from our environment which are in some cases having unintended and completely dire consequences, the veterinary profession can lend its weight to more diligent use of such products. They have been slow to get behind more natural approaches, a true side effect of their training, I know, but the cumulative effects of these toxins is taking a deadly toll.

    I would just hate to think Fog was among them. However, it is a very pragmatic answer to the big question in his case, WHY???


    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 5:53 PM

    My next one to watch is race 2 at Belmont, 1.30pm post time...

    Todd Pletcher's Perfect Forest

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 5:54 PM

    Sally, that race will more than likely show up on youtube soon, or expressbet. It was really really cool to see the camera work. The USA need to play catch up on our big races because it was fab, they made it feel like we were right there in the race with the jockeys and horses.

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at October 1, 2006 5:55 PM

    jo..

    watch the 2 in the 2nd at belmont....RENDEZVOUS SIOUX

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 6:01 PM

    Lynda...Graham Motion also has Moravia running in race 8, so I'll be screaming for her, and also Michael Matz's Tiffany Twisted in the same race!

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 6:02 PM

    JO..

    Perfect Forset ran well..didnt change leads too good in the stretch though

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 6:04 PM

    Jo oh shoot, I forgot about Tiffany. At Belmont right? Well at least I can see video of it later.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:05 PM

    Shelley, thank you for sharing your account of Fog's ceremony.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at October 1, 2006 6:05 PM

    Mike...typical they don't seem to be showing Belmont but I got live audio! :-)

    Autobahn Girl sounds like she skated it! And Perfect Forest came in 2nd :-)
    I didn't get to see Rendezvous Sioux but she came in 3rd!

    I think I can get replays at the Belmont site!

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 6:06 PM

    Sally -They are all downloaded on HIS computer and he is at work today. But I will ask him tonight if he can post some of the pictures for all to enjoy.

    Posted by: Robbie in Fresno, CA at October 1, 2006 6:06 PM

    MIKE C Thanks for answering, I enjoy your posts, and I'm always trying to learn as much as I can about racing.

    Robbie, Thanks for your beautiful post of your trip to GGF yesterday.

    Sally, I hope you can get Dish tv in the future. I know you would enjoy it. Not only the racing but they have RFDTV which has alot of equine educational programs. Alot of trainers have programs on there and they hilite different breeds.

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 6:06 PM

    JO..

    In that same race at Delaware I have been waiting for a horse to run back for weeks and he's in that same race..SPRING HONOR....he has been running on turf, but breeding isnt too bad for wet dirt as well...

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 6:06 PM

    Way to go Try To Remember and Graham.

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    Robbie in Fresno, et al--thank you so much for sharing your GGF experiences--so heartwarming and vivid--thanks again.

    OT--Sunday Silence (Deep Impact's sire) also was a famous "weaver" (see his Kentucky Derby win). Love that beautiful black horse--brings images of Black Beauty. And will never forget the Sunday Silence--Easy Goer saga--especially the last half of the Preakness, perhaps the best, most memorable duel to the wire in racing history.

    Posted by: TerryL at October 1, 2006 6:07 PM

    spring honor scratched in race 6 at Delaware

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 6:08 PM

    Lynda...no, she's running in race 8 at Delaware Park...3.54pm

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 6:08 PM

    Robbie -

    Oh, my gosh!!! You remembered!!! We also saw the flock of Canada geese and were blown away with the timing - we both had goosebumps! I meant to mention this too...

    And at the end of the race day, when they closed the track racing and commented on Fog one last time, there was a huge overfly of some smaller birds, coming out of the right hand side, weaving and dancing, and my FOB friend said, "That's the Fog...".

    We took pictures of both sets of birds. It was a very special day, with a very big presence all around us.

    (By the way, in my original post of the day, I didn't mean to write that "many ears were wiped away" - hope you all got a good laugh. However, it's hard to proofread through those very "tears".)

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 6:08 PM

    Good afternoon. Our Barbaroooooo.
    Sorry so late, It is Sunday and that means football.
    I know Alex is going to try to send you a Packers Hat for tomorrow, but keep that Eagle on. You know , the one with the ear holes... Love you our Darling Boy. Alex, it is going to be a fight tomorrow night......and since ya haven't beaten our guys in years............get on line during the game.
    Love to Fam and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.
    RIP my beloved Precisionist and our Fog.
    BTW, I never mentioned David Letell your Fog story, How much it made me cry, but lifted me up too.....

    Posted by: SusanW at October 1, 2006 6:09 PM

    Sally - forgot to add - the geese flyby was too quick and he did not have time to get it - sorry

    Posted by: Robbie in Fresno, CA at October 1, 2006 6:10 PM

    Shelley in CA,
    I only just this year read about overvaccinating our pets. The thought of taking them in makes me ill- and the law requires it.

    I think we've swung way too far with the pendulum into chemicals and it's time to swing the other way and learn how to heal and prevent disease by cleaning up the food we eat, the air we breathe, and the water we drink. We're lazy though, we'd rather take pills, shots, and spray things.
    okay, end o rant...it just burns me up.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at October 1, 2006 6:11 PM

    Spring Honor has been scratched? Looks like you'll have to wait a little longer for him, Mike. Has he been injured?

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 6:12 PM

    Jo, Tiffany? Blast it. Delaware is going to here from me about not having live video!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:12 PM

    Hey Mike Probably misunderstood your post about Jerry Bailey and Smarty Jones, but he was not the jockey up. I believe it was a local by the name of Elliott. Check it out.

    Posted by: Sylvia at October 1, 2006 6:13 PM

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    Sally KW I just sent you an email

    Posted by: Laura in Key West at October 1, 2006 6:17 PM

    Stewart Elliot rode Smarty Jones. He is from Canada.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:18 PM

    Lynda, I can't get into the Delaware site without it crashing my laptop...pain in the neck for checking entries but at least they show most of the Delaware races on one of my racing channels. I think they might do live audio on the site.

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 6:19 PM

    Lynda, I totally agree with you on Delaware and the frustrating lack of video. It's amazing how dependent one becomes on those little technological marvels (instant gratification! Yea!), especially for those of us without HRTV.

    However, I have to commend them for that wonderful Get Well Barbaro video they still have on their website. They updated it from the original, and it still brings tears to my eyes - what better music than "You Are So Beautiful"...
    and then, reminding you to look into his eyes, well, what can I say - ?

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 6:26 PM

    Jo, I have checked for both video and audio on the web site and they dont do anything. they dont even have anything going on sites like racereplays.com. Alex said once that they are not very good at promoting themselves.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:27 PM

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    Cindy--thanks for the heads-up re RFDTV on Dish. Never saw while channel surfing (at 9409)--checking it out now.

    Sally in Key West--football no fun here today either. More time for racing.

    Posted by: TerryL at October 1, 2006 6:27 PM

    Good Morning All Happy Sunday
    Thanks for the updates, Alex

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    Shelly in CA thank you for sharing your experience of yesterday

    Concerning cancer, particularly lymphoma, there is a research program ongoing at CSU I think my other half is attending a seminar this month on the topic, or at least it is later this year. He has studied with Dr. Greg Ogilvie, who is one of the foremost research practitioners in the world. He and Dr. Steve Winthrow, the Director of Animal Cancer Center at CSU, have a large staff of researchers and practitioners dedicated to equine cancers, and I have heard that Lost In The Fog has precipitated increased focus on lymphoma in particular, and the causal relation between the disease and genetics ( probably very slim) and environmental triggers. But it's just preliminary. I think a lot of the focus on the direction of study will be determined by Fog's necropsy findings.

    It is very unusual, to say the least, that two young horses should lose their lives due to this illness in such a short time. The incidence is sais to be approximately 1% but that is really a static figure, abd if you look at the comparison figures over the number of years that the disease has been identified, it's really smaller. But that doesn't disaued those people who are dedicated to find causes for these horrific diseases. I'm kinda hoping I'll be able to attend this seminar. I'm good with notetaking and recollection :)

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    Thanks to Nancy as well for sharing your experience of yesterday. Prayers continue for Fog, Mr. and Mrs. Aleo and Greg Gilchrist, and everyone who loved Lost In The Fog

    Good Morning Big B! ACN is always great news. we love you so much

    Prayers for all who need them, and for all horses and their riders to be safe today

    Catch you later
    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at October 1, 2006 6:27 PM

    Shelley, haha yea, thats about the only good thing on that site. Oh well. At least we can get results.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:28 PM

    I think Bailey's ride was questioned because he used his horse(forgot who he rode) to hook Smarty to try to get him beat. Mike will have to answer this for details. I just remember alot of folks criticised Bailey's ride.

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 6:31 PM

    I see Scott Lake won the third race. He is the leader in the Trainer's standings in races won, but its because he has something like 380 starters. Steve Klesaris actually does better percentage wise with 39%. Scott has 24%.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:32 PM

    I dont think Bailey should be blamed for Smarty loosing the Belmont. It was Stewart Elliot that let Smarty run a mile in 1:34 and change. Way the heck too fast.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:33 PM

    I have a book that tells about the mystical/spiritual powers of different animals. After you all told about the birds and the geese at The Fog's memorial, I looked up their meaning.

    All birds "remind us that we can rise above our circumstances. They are the ultimate symbols of transcendence". And the goose represents "a call to a spiritual quest - to have greater "vision". Their leaving in the autumn stirs our imagination and makes us want to search out new worlds and dimensions. Their honking calls us to follow them on the spiritual quest. Their return in the spring, speaks of the fulfilled promises that great quests bring".

    Sorry - I wrote so much - but there is lots there, and I thought it was really interesting given what The Fog was able to do, and also what we are involved with now.

    God Bless The Fog

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 6:34 PM

    Lynda...that's pretty bad! I wonder why they don't have even replays on their site. I guess I'm not missing much...just easier to check racecards there.

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 6:35 PM

    sylvia--

    I know Stewart Elliot rode Smarty..Beetle Bailey rode another horse, the one that ran Smarty Jones out of the race, Bailey took his horse and used him as a rabbitt to take Smarty Jones out of the race..Bailey was heavily criticized for his tactics in the race.

    Jo

    re Spring Honor, I was suprised to see him not scratched because he has only run on turf, then I checked again and he was scratched..he was didnt run last saturday at Kentucky Downs either because they had to cancell teir card to to heavy rains..they only run turf races at Kentucky Downs..I'll wait till another day for him...

    Posted by: mike c at October 1, 2006 6:39 PM

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    Anna in Tx-I am almost positive that the vaccinations are what contributed to my cat Sweetness's cancerous tumors. Vet tried to say it was a cancer only previously found in canines, but sometimes associated with vaccinations also. I did not know which to believe- she had it encapsulated in her spleen,which was removed in it's entirety. One year later in debeloped in her stomach and was inoperable. I had a little while longer with her. She told me when it was time. I had her for a glorius 13 or so years, she was fabulous!! Now, I hate taking my others in--anxious if it will occur again...

    Posted by: Dora J Crow from Montgomery, Alabama at October 1, 2006 6:40 PM

    Jo, yea, they do have equibase and nice profile sheets. They have them for tomorrow too.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:43 PM

    Dora, I'm sorry to hear that. I lost a Dobie to cancer.
    I think this 'half a ton of prevention' is too much, in more cases than not.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at October 1, 2006 6:43 PM

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    Gotta go check on my hairy children at the boyfriend's house right now, as a matter of fact. I will "see" ya'll later, around 7:00 c.s.t.

    Posted by: Dora J Crow from Montgomery, Alabama at October 1, 2006 6:43 PM

    Cheryl J -

    (Barbaro's not talking???)

    Thank you very much for the updates on CSU's studies - maybe putting your 3 cents in will add more fuel for follow up with Fog.

    I think you mentioned that you had lost a Great Dane to osteosarcoma, as I have, and know research into cancer triggers is invaluable. I walk my dogs in a spectacular regional park by the Bay where dogs are allowed off leash, but it is a park left undeveloped, primarily, because it is the site of the old Oakland dump. It would be prime development property, but anyone who purchased the land would have enormous costs to clean it up completely. They still are venting gases from whatever is fermenting below, but otherwise one would not know the site's history. I have weighed the odds of my dogs not getting really great exercise and being happy mentally against walks on leash on city streets or in the poison ivy/tick infested hills nearby, and since Great Danes have short lives (12 years, hopefully) I have gambled to walk there 2/3 times a week. But what are the odds? I think about it all the time, what about the soil (imported to cover the dump), what about the gases/unseen? The synergy (thank you, Susan) is still a pressing subject for study, with the increasing prevalence of these toxins in air/soil/food...

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 6:45 PM

    Another comfortable night for Barbaro, and here is it Sunday again. The time is flying. Alex, do you ever get tired of hearing how much people appreciate what you do in conveying this news to us on a twice-daily basis?

    ##############
    Hard to believe how much time has passed on this "long strange star-crossed trek we find ourselves on." [from one of mine]

    Shelly in CA, 10/1, 4:53 pm, in her post recounting the cancer death of Foggy's 2-yr-old filly stablemate, with a suspicion of involvement of rat poison, poignantly and pointedly asks:

    "Why don't they just hire more stable cats???"

    AMEN! Natural rodent control is where it's at.

    This leads right to a point that dawned on me this past summer - now it screams to be made, to highlight what can be a collateral benefit [opposite of collateral damage] of horse adoption / assimilation of the unslaughtered.

    With more horses [the unslaughtered] going to forever homes, those homes will need (or at least, could use), more stable cats. Think about it.

    Every barn needs barn cats, precisely to keep rodents at bay. The more horses, the more grain, the more need for cats. In MY perfect world, the small animal shelter movement views barns as THE place for forever-home placement (spayed and neutered goes without saying) for many cats who otherwise would be euthanized for no reason other than difficulty of finding appropriate placements. This goes especially for healthy feral cats, or healthy unsocialized cats "rescued" from hoarders' homes, who would be put down for non-medical reasons [NEVER will I condone that, btw] - the barn setting is perfect for them.

    LIVING PROOF OF THE LIVING TRUTH
    Hope Peace Love & Music - CJ the craziest catlady (Blackie's Mother & Pleasure's Aunt) in Hammond IN, f/k/a CJ of T Bar J (Elgin IL)

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at October 1, 2006 6:45 PM

    Mike...all good things come to those who
    wait ;-)

    Lynda...thank you for reminding me! :-P

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 6:46 PM

    Ok, my next one is Todd Pletcher's Stan The Man...race 4, Belmont Park, post time 2.33pm

    Better get to the live audio...grrrrrr

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 6:48 PM

    Mary S -
    Thanks for posting the very interesing information.

    Posted by: Pam Mross at October 1, 2006 6:50 PM

    Jo LOL oops. Why does your computer crash? That doesnt make sense. Does it crash everytime you try to get on there? The Delaware site is pretty simple. Not really any graphics or anything special.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:50 PM

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    Also wanted to thank the posters who reported from Golden Gate yesterday. Next best thing to being there.

    And thanks to Ernie, whose Foggy Forever tee-shirts were brought to Mr. Aleo's and Mr. Gilchrist's attention. Must have made them feel sooooo good to know somebody cared so much as to make that. Mine also arrived promptly last week; and I love it. CJ in Hammond IN

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at October 1, 2006 6:51 PM

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    OH Anna in Tx-I am so sorry to hear that!! I love Dobies!! My sister and I always wanted one. She instead ended up with a min-pin, but THATS another horrifying story( SHE was great-- HER life/death was NOT) That dog had nine lives like a cat. She got bit by a copperhead, had a stick stuck in her mouth to be surgically removed,almost drowned in a pond,ate some meds, ran away while sis out of town, got lost-hit by car-okay THAT time(I found her at a Vet office after much searchng while sis still out of town) WHEW!! All was okay for long time, then she got hit by another car and broke her little neck--oh my God awfulness...when my sister told me, I freaked out. Her hair felt like velvet, she took forever to get to like me and then we were buddies so it was so hard.Poor little Gi-Gi. I cnnot talk anymore I have to drive for 45 minutes and I do not wnat to keep crying, sorry for the depressing story, all this transpired couple yrs, ago, should be ok, but you know...thanks Anna

    Posted by: Dora J Crow from Montgomery, Alabama at October 1, 2006 6:51 PM

    Lynda, Bailey shouldn't be blamed. Stewart was unable to rate Smarty that day. I don't guess it was anyones fault, thats horse racing. Like mike c said earlier about rabbits, GREAT horses win anyway. But, I have to say I still think Smarty is a GREAT horse.

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 6:52 PM

    Lynda...I have no idea why it happens, I never had this trouble until the last week and now I can't get in without crashing. I can get the racecards from The Daily Racing Form site, but the format isn't very good. Better than nothing though.

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 6:55 PM

    Cindy, I agree. He was still awsome. I still think though that Smarty should not have taken the lead so soon though. The fractions for the entire race were rediculous and Smarty was up there for the whole thing. Then at the end he was the only one left who lasted when the come-from-behind horse, Birdstone, got him. Smarty HAD to have been great to last like that.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 1, 2006 6:56 PM

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    RE: overvaccinating...I thought the easy way was to get Heartworm vaccines for my dogs. My dearest love, Pepper died the next year. Then I went to my vet and saw a RECALL for any heartworm vac.
    Sorry for the story, but , maybe if I didn't take the easy way out...my beautiful Pepay might be alive. Needless to say, pills only now.
    Love to Fam and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.
    Love and RIP to my Precisionist and our Fog.

    Posted by: SusanW at October 1, 2006 7:00 PM

    I saw the 8th from Longchamp and was struck by 2 things on my first exposure to European racing: the camera work was EXQUISITE, far superior to our American coverage; and when the horses were loaded (including one who wanted no part of it and eventually had a hood put on), there was no yelling and shouting like we often hear in our American races....interesting.

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    SALLY - Cowboys 14, Titans 6...yes, I've got that on here in CT!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at October 1, 2006 7:00 PM

    Barbaro & those fighting to pass S1915,
    I found this video of Bo Derek appealing to people to stop horse slaughter and make it illegal on the National Horse Protection Coalition web site.

    National Horse Protection Coalition
    http://www.horse-protection.org/info.php?id=39
    Parts are not for the faint of heart, but it is educational. Maybe myspace or other forums?

    Jen in Iowa

    Posted by: Jen at October 1, 2006 7:00 PM

    Nancy I'm really depressed now - I don't get that game. No Cowboys - no horsies - I'm gonna start drinking early today - lol

    Thanks for the update - go Boys!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 7:02 PM

    Nancy...what strikes me is how calm our racing is over here...no shouting, la-la-la-ing, banging, ringing of bells...it stresses me out so I can imagine what your horses must feel like!!

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 7:05 PM

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    This is not written to inflame or cause argument

    Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. Just want to remind everyone that it is, after all, highly evolved veterinary medicine that has saved Barbaro, and many valiently tried to save Lost In The Fog.

    There has been considerable debate in recent years about the causal relationship between vaccines and disease, particularly in cats and dogs. Both develop similar, and also very different cancers. There was a study performed beginning nearly 20 years ago when a disease identified as "vaccine-induced-fibrosarcoma" in cats. There have been many incidents of what was thought to be vaccine induced auto-immune-mediated hemolytic anemia in dogs. There has been much discussion about the role that the vaccine manufacturers play in their production of vaccines that supposedly cause these diseases. The veterinary community has been under fire for a long time, being accused of being driven to continue to vaccinate, despite the "known risks" of inducing disease in animals, purely for financial gain.

    Study continues, and almost without exception, there have been no correlations found between the diseases and vaccinating, as such. "Vaccine-Induced Fibrosarcoma" in cats has been found in cats who have never been vaccinated. Auto-immune hemolytic anemia has been found in dogs, who were vaccinated, particularly rabies vaccine, that already had underlying triggers, were aged, or otherwise compromised. A curious bit of fact, all farm animals, horses, ferrets, "pocket pets" and virtually every animal who is working or companion, are vaccinated, and the incidence of cancer in these animals, is extremely small in percentage. The risk compared to contraction one of the diseases for which animals are vaccinated is virtually nil. That means nothing to the person whose animal is affected,I know, but it is factual.

    In the course of all this study, the veterinary community and vaccine manufacturers ( most of whom have veterinary medical backgrounds ) have found that immunity is better than formerly thought and for that reason, protocol for scheduling of routine vaccines has changed. Beyond the first year or so of puppies and kittens, the scheduling has been reduced to every three years or so, but the decision is made between the vet and the client, and the lifestyle of the animal, i.e., indoor vs outdoor. The exception is rabies. There has been a three year vaccine developed in the past several years that COULD be used for virtually everyone, but various statutes and regulations make the determination whether or not the animals must be vaccinated annually or otherwise. And for that matter, rabies is something no one wants to mess with. Here in CO there has been a high incidence of rabies in bats. If one species can be affected, virtually EVERY species can. Overall, the risk of developing serious or fatal disease in any specie is much higher than the risk of developing any adverse reaction to vaccine. The most recent studies continue to have findings that there is virtually no causal relationship in the development of any type of cancer in any specie and the type of vaccine or the method of manufacturing it or the components used in it. There are side effects and adverse reactions in the vaccines and virtually any kind of medication available to animal or human, but the risk associated with the side effects or adverse reaction is far outweighed by the likelihood of developing the disease.

    Just wanted to throw that out there, before this discussion goes on in a direction that wouldn't be appropriate for the reason we are here, that is to celebrate Barbaro and all those who love him and who have shown unbelieveable skill and expertise in caring for him

    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at October 1, 2006 7:06 PM

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    Auntie Sally, ya gotta get NFL season ticket......I think the score is 14 to 3...Dallas. or you can go to Dallas Cowboys Fans United......they have a chat room.
    Love,
    Susan

    Posted by: SusanW at October 1, 2006 7:06 PM

    Stan The Man won!!! :-)

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 7:06 PM

    Coming up at Delaware Park, race 6, 3pm is Michael Matz's Surprise Inside

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 7:08 PM

    ####Dr. Jean Dodds (vet immunologist) is considered by many to be a forerunner in the area of vaccination protocol. Here is a link to her protocol, and also contact info. This is dated 2001 -

    http://www.petresource.com/Articles%20of%20Interest/vaccination_protocol.htm

    Love, Light and Protection

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 7:09 PM

    Well said Cheryl Jones
    Veterinary medicine, like people medicine is constantly evolving. But unlike people drs, vets do not see themselves as gods just specialists trying to do the right thing with the tools they currently have.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at October 1, 2006 7:11 PM

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    JO (UK)....I couldn't believe the difference! I just read somewhere about a horse who had a hood with loads of padding over his ears because the noise was too distracting for him...can't remember who it is, but he did much better with the new headgear.
    In the 8th that horse was really resistant to the gate and yet all the people were calm and quiet..and still effective! Oh, well, guess you can't have everything...AND WE DON'T EAT HORSEMEAT HERE!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at October 1, 2006 7:11 PM

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    JO (UK)....I couldn't believe the difference! I just read somewhere about a horse who had a hood with loads of padding over his ears because the noise was too distracting for him...can't remember who it is, but he did much better with the new headgear.
    In the 8th that horse was really resistant to the gate and yet all the people were calm and quiet..and still effective! Oh, well, guess you can't have everything...AND WE DON'T EAT HORSEMEAT HERE!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at October 1, 2006 7:12 PM

    Thank you, Mary S, for the meaning in the birds, although we had no doubt...

    And CJ - !!! Yes, good comes from making those changes !!! Synergy, in the RIGHT direction !!! More horses saved, more cats saved - who knows where it might all end (all seven of my foundlings, one wrapped around the base of the computer screen, another sitting at attention while I type, rumbling YES).

    Barbaro may be on the cover of Cat World next... with the Fog.

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 7:12 PM

    Nancy...it's like Alex always says. Your horses are trained to break very fast, so I guess that's why they make so much noise, so the horses will want to get out as quickly as possible.
    They always look so stressed when they're in the gate though...and no wonder.

    George Washington loves the gate so much that he was quite happy to stand there for 8 lengths once it was opened! LOL I think he might get a nasty shock over there... :-(

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 7:17 PM

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    SALLY - Cowboys just scored, the center was injured and a Titans player was ejected! 21-6

    Too much competition on tv today...horseracing, my Cowboys, and the Jets who are tied with the Colts. Other days there is NOTHING worth watching!

    I have SBC (now AT&T) and have phone, dsl & Dish Network. I certainly don't pay $100. a month for Dish, and I have all the HBO channels. They have different offers from time to time, but I know that ALL of my services are cheaper because I have them all through SBC. I thought that AT&T had bought out SBC, but it turns out the reverse is true...they just decided to keep the AT&T name because it's more recognized...and I think they have or are about to buy out Bell South, too.

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at October 1, 2006 7:17 PM

    Mary S - thank you for looking up and sharing that info on birds - geese in particular. I Believe it!!!

    Posted by: Robbie in Fresno, CA at October 1, 2006 7:17 PM

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    Sally ........... 21 Dallas.......6 Titans.
    Love.
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.
    And no...I have no clue why things are recalled, Cheryl,, I just know I lost my Pepay at age 8 and a schipperke is supposed to live to 20.

    Posted by: SusanW at October 1, 2006 7:19 PM

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    Thanks, LindaH, Shelley, and all. Having spent many loooooooooooong nights hearing one who would never portray himself as a god, but someone who genuinely loves animals and wants to do nothing but the best for them, lament about being accused of deliberately causing harm simply by doing his job (wow that's along sentence) I guess you can see that I have some real sore spots on the subject. But from the ache comes the drive to learn more and do even better.

    Hugs,
    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at October 1, 2006 7:24 PM

    Sally in KW, that 7:02 post of yours is a tear jerker girl! We are gonna have to start a collection so you can have HRTV and TVG! It's gotta be rough without it, especially with us making all these comments about the races we are watching.

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 7:25 PM

    Cheryl,
    not trying to bash veterinary medicine - I am thankful for the advances we do have.

    My issue is government regulation of medications and vaccinations when they go TOO far. The rabies vaccine is supposed to last 3 years, according to my vet- yet it's required every year.

    Look at how vaccines affect small children. Read the fine print- they CAN kill your child or pet (I know, I'm mixing here). Yet they are required by law.

    I just think there's too much. And things that should never get past the FDA (or equivalent for critters) do...while less profitable, less toxic options never see the light of day.

    In human terms, I can point directly to aspartame. Stevia was pulled off the shelves as a sweetener when the powers that be (some of whom profitted from the production of aspartame) decided they wanted the whole cake.
    The stuff is toxic, no matter how you look at it.

    Then there's the pesticides we eat.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at October 1, 2006 7:26 PM

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    JO (UK)...I'm very new to this weekly racing stuff...love horses, not racing...because of disasters such as Barbaro's accident...SO I BLAME EVERYBODY ON THIS SITE WHO "FORCED" ME TO WATCH RACING AND NOW I DON'T GET ANY WORK DONE IN MY APARTMENT BUT MY CATS ARE THRILLED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO HID FROM THE VACUUM AND CAN SIT ON THE BED WITH ME! LOL

    For instance, I didn't know about our horses actually being trained to break fast...I would have thought they'd break fast just because of the confined space. In the 8th I noticed that all the horses already in the gate (and their jockeys) seemed very relaxed even though it was quite a delay to get the "rebel" gated...hmmmm.

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at October 1, 2006 7:26 PM

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    BUT, time to gain control of the clicker...If I see ONE more game on NFL Season ticket....LMAO
    Love to Family and Posse,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in Barbaro.
    Love and light to my Precionist (1981/2006) and our Fog. RIP my Angel.

    Posted by: SusanW at October 1, 2006 7:26 PM

    So glad to hear that Barbaro is continuing to do well. Also good to hear about the tribute to the Fogman. Blessings to both horses and their teams and loved ones.

    Posted by: Fran at October 1, 2006 7:30 PM

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    Jo, horses are stressed in the gate because, they are closed in..they have people climbing all over them..........they are not stupid...they just wonder why. Imagine being boxed in with people shoving you and grabbing your tail, a jock on your back and a gate guy holding you with no way out...........
    Love you and hay missed you girl!!!!!!
    Susan.

    Posted by: SusanW. at October 1, 2006 7:31 PM

    Nancy...I never knew anything about racing, and didn't like it very much, but I'm completely hooked...I just love to watch these beautiful animals!

    Mike...is Surprise Inside owned by the Jacksons?

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 7:31 PM

    Hey, Cheryl, we understand... my brother's a (human) doctor and we have these discussions all the time. And I almost married my vet - until I decided he was more interested in being an adminstrator, renowned for emergency planning and grief counseling, and less interested in diagnosis and care of individual animals... maybe I was off base, because those are also important causes, but the immediate picture was where I wanted to be. Guess it wasn't true love. I still have the blue and gold macaw he gave me, which will outlive me for sure. Maybe that was payback.

    Your expertise and insight is invaluable. Thank you.

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 7:32 PM

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    Hi Anna! Hope Rockett's doing better

    Here's something I just read along the lines of what you said about artificial sweeteners, and I could not agree with you more on that topic.. This is on the AOL main page today, and I'm copying it because a lot of us have other servers
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    Dog Owners Warned Over Sugar-Free Items


    NEW YORK (Sept. 30) - Keep those sugarless treats out of Fido's reach. Veterinarians warned on Friday that a commonly used sweetener might cause liver failure in dogs, and perhaps even kill them.

    Their report in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association appears to strengthen the suspected link between the sugar substitute xylitol, thought to make dogs sick, and possible liver failure.

    Xylitol, a naturally occurring product, is found in many sugar-free chewing gums, candies, baked goods and toothpastes.

    Researchers Sharon Gwaltney-Brant and Eric Dunayer with staff at a poison unit of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in Urbana, Illinois, gathered information on eight dogs treated between 2003 and 2005 after eating products containing xylitol.

    Each dog became ill, and five died or had to be put down because of liver failure, possibly from ingesting xylitol.
    One dog who had to be euthanized had eaten four large, chocolate-frosted muffins containing about 1 pound of xylitol.

    "People don't think sugar-free gum can kill their dog. I didn't before I got into this. But this is something people should be aware of," Gwaltney-Brant, who co-authored the study with Dunayer, said in a statement.

    Gwaltney-Brant said for dogs, ingesting even a small amount of xylitol can trigger significant insulin release, which drops their blood sugar and can be fatal.

    "A 22-pound dog who consumes one gram of xylitol should be treated," she said, adding that further studies were needed to definitely establish a cause-and-effect relationship.
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    Xylitol is a naturally-occuring substance, found in a lot of berries, in particular. The chemically-refined product has a lot of other stuff in it too, of course, but it's basically naturally derived. Another interesting thing, chocolate is extremely harmful to dogs and cats, especially, and the darker the chocolate, the worse it is. I think this article is also testimony to KEEP STUFF OUT OF REACH!!! Another classic stupid human error, and that is just tragic. But anyway, back to what you were saying, there are many products that do cause harm that seemingly got by the studies. I hate to think of any of us or our animals being crash test dummies!!

    Hugs,
    Cheryl


    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at October 1, 2006 7:39 PM

    No surprise for Surprise Inside!! That was easy peasy!!!! Congratulations all round! :-)

    Susan...I worry about our horses going over there for the Breeder's Cup. They're not used to that!

    ps...missed you too!

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 7:40 PM

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    Cheryl,

    Rockett is still recouping, thank you. More tuna juice today, and lots of sleep- drinking lots of water. He's doing what he needs to do to fight this off. I just remind him that I love him now and then and try not to disrupt him much.

    boy o boy, what a horrific thought- the testing.

    I knew about chocolate and pets. Tylenol (acetaminophin) is another toxic to pets item.

    we 'humanize them' emotionally, but the fact is, they aren't.

    Our bodies aren't really so hot on processing a lot of this stuff, either.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at October 1, 2006 7:44 PM

    #########
    Sally , the Cowboys 28 .....Titans 14.
    (I would call them the girls, but as a Staff member at PhillySportsline.. I have to be nice )
    Love,Susan

    Posted by: SusanW at October 1, 2006 7:45 PM

    I haven't read todays postings yet, so forgive me if this has already been posted.

    If you all go to MSNBC and look for "The Week in Pictures." There is a picture of one of the horses that was rescued earlier this week from the truck wreck on the freeway on the way to the slaughter house. The picture is currently rated as # 3. If we all vote for it, we could make it number one. That should position the picture to be viewed in the future. As well as it eligable to be voted on again and the end of year for picture of the year.

    Posted by: Judy Walker in WA at October 1, 2006 7:49 PM

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    Anna in Tx...love ya
    we anthromorph em, in other words, giving them human qualities, but to me, I have never had a horse, pet, even that goofy Squirrel that was never a part of my heart, member of my life.
    Always,
    Susan

    Posted by: SusanW. at October 1, 2006 7:50 PM

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    That's a great idea Judy. I am heading there now.

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    Is anyone else having trouble accessing the discussion board as of now?? I can't seem to make the connection over there. Wondering if it's my computer.

    Posted by: Rosemary in Ohio at October 1, 2006 7:55 PM

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    Cheryl, thanks for the xylitol warning...

    With regard to toxins, I might also mention that my husband, a naval architect and yacht designer, died of lung cancer at a relatively young age (54) and was a fanatical anti-smoker. No one could believe the diagnosis. However, he might have been exposed to fiberglass fibers or even asbestos at boatyards, as well as resins, glues, composites of various sorts, who knows what all. I guess personal experience heightens awareness of lifestyle/environmental exposures/incidental and incremental ingestion of various combinations of chemicals and hormones. Ever hard questions. Everyone's heart is in the right place (we like to believe) but perhaps the drug and chemical companies, some of whom probably sponsor research into the various medical areas, have their hearts in a different place...

    I am hopeful Barbaro's experience is going to lead to more and better research on laminitis as well as track surfaces. Good things from bad. Now, if Fog's case can help - his legacy will grow, too.

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 7:57 PM

    no problem getting to forum fo me.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 7:59 PM

    Hi Barbaro,

    I'm so pleased to say "Happy October" to you. Keep getting better and better.

    Alex, thanks as always for this site. It is so appreciated by so many.

    Posted by: Carol at October 1, 2006 8:03 PM

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    Thanks Sally, it must be my computer acting up.

    Posted by: Rosemary in Ohio at October 1, 2006 8:04 PM

    Thanks to all who were at Foggy's memorial for your reports. I wish I could have been there with you.

    Thank you to all who are keeping up to date on the Cowboys.

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 8:08 PM

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    Cheryl

    People should stay away from xylitol too - and all the -itols. They are sugar alcohols and result in cramping and diarrhea.

    Unless you like that sort of thing

    And, Anna TX - Stevia is still being sold, but as bitter as it is, I don't really consider it a sugar substitute.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at October 1, 2006 8:09 PM

    Just a reminder that Michael Matz's Tiffany Twisted will be racing soon...also Graham Motion's Moravia

    Race 8, Delaware Park, 3.54pm

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 8:09 PM

    ACN-Atta Baby (((Bobby)))!!!! One day at a time champ.


    Greetings to all my fellow Bobbyheads...:)


    Pat G
    Proud Member
    Fans of Barbaro

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at October 1, 2006 8:11 PM

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    Susan, back atcha!

    Linda,
    Stevia isn't bitter unless you overdo it- and they mix it with a fiber now- in order to have something to claim on the label, I suppose?
    When you overdo, it has sort of a licorice flavor.

    It's only just recently reappeared on the shelves (it was pulled in the 70s, I believe), and if you'll read a box, you'll notice that NOWHERE do they claim it as a sweetener.
    They can't, legally.
    SweetLeaf is one brand- but the package cannot claim that it is a sweetener. Everyone who knows of it just knows that it is.
    Celestial Seasonings used to use it in teas, for example. They no longer do.

    there are things it's better in than others. I don't care for it in coffee, but do like it in tea. It's been used for centuries in other cultures, with no ill effects- no cavities, no calories, no weird side effects. (UNless, I suppose, it's overdone- as we are wont to do here).
    In Japan, the little green packets appear in restaurants, much as the pink and blue and yellow ones do here.

    Posted by: Anna in Tx at October 1, 2006 8:15 PM

    Anna in Tx,

    Thanks for your encouraging regard for our environment, that truly is the issue of this century - how to save the planet. Pesticides are closely linked to cancer and I refuse, after having breast cancer, to spray any toxins around my house and garden. I relunctantly gave shots to my dog but did so because he had a long trip to take and I knew he would come into contact with things and animals he wouldn't normally encounter. I had a cat who lived 16 years, had no shots, except as a kitten, because he wouldn't go in the car without having a real fit, even the vet couldn't handle him.

    As we raise our consciousness about the poisoning of our planet many of us hide from the truth, it's almost more than we can handle. But, if each of us does a little much can be accomplished!

    Now I need to go recycle, that always feels good!

    Bless everyone including all our dear creatures!

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at October 1, 2006 8:24 PM

    And yes, I have used stevia (moderately) for years instead of sugar. I like it, especially in a hot drink with milk.

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at October 1, 2006 8:28 PM

    Hello all!

    Been silent for a week but just finished scrolling thru all the comments. Job traumas, etc.--life--got in the way.

    I am SO impressed with all you've done here. Thanks for your fighting spirit, the reports on the Fog tribute, the $$ raised to save horses from that horrible wreck, and so on. And prayers to all for your human and animal needs. The love you show for each other and horses, dogs, cats, turkeys, squirrels--it's like a bloomin' Noah's Ark! :)

    And to the Jacksons, thank you for your wonderful message. And to Bobby, thank you God for a week of ACNs, even if you need a shave ;) I'm so happy for you it makes me want to squeal!

    Alex, none of this is possible with you. God bless.

    A thought:

    I wonder if any of the horses who ran in the Breeder's Cup when it was in Texas have ended up in that hellhouse? What a follow-up story that would make...how can we find out?

    Posted by: Jane in CT at October 1, 2006 8:37 PM

    Shelley from CA -
    Very, very nice posting regarding the memorial. Such a sad loss. I only learned of Fog while becoming more and more involved with Barbaro's recovery, but what I did learn was what a magnificent horse he was (and always will be!)My heart goes out to the Aleo's, Mr. Gilchrist and all that were close to this lovely horse.

    Posted by: Pam Mross at October 1, 2006 8:38 PM

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    Shelley

    I am so sorry that you lost your husband. That is so tragic and really puts perspective into what it important.

    I have a friend who also has been recently diagnosed. She never has smoked, has always lived a healthy lifestyle, eats right, exercises, the whole thing, no family history. I would rather have a culprit! It just seems so unfair.

    Amen to everything said about the environment and planet as a whole being inundated by toxins and yes indeed, each one of us can in maybe a small way, do something to stop it. It is said that this planet loses a species of life, microscopic or otherwise, animal, plant or other type of organism, every minute, every day, due to toxins, introduction of incompatable species, generally man-made destruction of the continents, the Poles, the oceans, the atmosphere and life itself. God created the Earth, and I am pretty sure that humans' destroying it was not supposed to be part of the Plan. I have been a member of a conservation organization for a long time and the credo has been for sometime that our greatest enemy is not terror, war, famine, pesticide, disease, but our stupid (present company excepted, of course :)) selves. Isn't THAT the awful truth


    hugs,

    Cheryl

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at October 1, 2006 8:41 PM

    Congratulations to Michael Matz for Tiffany Twisted's win!! :-)

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 8:43 PM

    Afternoon, all. I feel like I'm keeper of the candles, but SOMEBODY'S got to do it! They are low, if you could please stop in and light a few. Thanks.

    http://www.gratefulness.org

    I really enjoyed the reports from Foggy's memorial. Wish I could have been there.

    Thanks, Alex, and all of you for being here. You are my extended family.

    Love to all.

    Posted by: Barb AZ at October 1, 2006 8:50 PM

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    Cheryl,

    Yes, the planet is our only home. Why would we want to foul it? I sometimes even think that war creates a smokescreen to what is really important, like coming up with a car that does not pollute the air.

    Healing the planet involves everyone - my doing a little thing can be like the ripple in the pond.

    And as everyone does one little thing we can create waves and waves just as we have with the anti-slaughter legislation.

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at October 1, 2006 8:51 PM

    Lost in the Fog tributes
    Thank you to all who posted. Each account was wonderful. You are our reporters in the field! No one else gets to read these wonderful, personal accounts but us; and they bring us right into the story. We are so privileged to have this nationwide network, aren't we?

    About the rumor that The Fog and a stablemate may have gotten sick from toxins -- well, that is just awful. So sad that that may have been what happened.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at October 1, 2006 8:56 PM

    HAY

    its me bARbaro

    it has come to my atenshun that som of yuo beyoooooootiful ladees an som o f yuo ar gennelmen too but problee not beyoooootiful arsked me to pos on the mane paje yesturday

    wellfurhevvinsakes i waz takin a BAFTH it was agood one too an yess i smayul GOOD

    its so kungfooooooooozing (that may not be the rite werd) som peeoples make fun offa hayhed scruffeee berd and then i take a bafth an everbuddy sez ware in the werld is bArbaro has anybuddy seen bArbaro well i waz rite HEER sokin wet all sudzdt up an cuod not come to the fone or bord then i eet carits looked aroun for a wile, then i eet carits then i go ouutdside an d eet grassss then come back in side eet carits..wachth some sports on tv eet carits watchtch more tv did i menshun i eet carits?

    then i watchted the memorial bout my frend Fog then ijus sorta medddittaaddid i know yuo unndurstan but im glad you mist me

    this kungfooozing thing (pleez kerreckt me if yuo know the rite werd) is wat i think is called the bafful offthe sixes im not shure wat that is but i think it hasta do wifth this vary thing i git hayhed, gerls don like it i takea bafth, gerls don like it i am so kungfoooooooozed

    but i love everbuddy and thankyew fora ll the carits

    love bArbaro

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at October 1, 2006 8:59 PM

    Cheryl, yes, our stupid selves. Let's just hope we're not too late smart...

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 9:00 PM

    To those of you with HRTV or some other source, could you tell what happened in the Belmont (I think 6th(?) race) with the two year old filly, FOLK, with Edgar on? She was the favorite, but veered wide off - was she just experiencing adolescent racing angst? Can't really tell from the video...

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 9:04 PM

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    Barbaro - so good to hear from you. Did you get a mane trim after your bath. I bet you do smell good - wish I could smell you - I understand that the smell of a horse is the best!!

    I just emailed you. Hope you respond.

    XXOO and SCRATCHIES

    Aunty Sally

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 9:06 PM

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    Anna and Bonnie:

    That is probably my problem - moderation.
    I like things sweeeeeeeeeeeet. I have 2 boxes of Stevia but I just can't bring myself to use it again.
    If you want to try something really interesting, try Whey Low - made from whey. It really is tasty.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at October 1, 2006 9:06 PM

    Sorry Barb in AZ, I haven't been good about candles lately. Thanks for reminding me, I'll go do that now! Thanks also for picking up the slack!

    Posted by: cindy a at October 1, 2006 9:07 PM

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    Just got back from Fair Hill. I calmy rode my mountain bike passed double trouble stables, aka Tim Woolley. It seems so peaceful when no one is there, yet, I could feel Alex and Bobby there despite the quietness.

    How I love Fair Hill...........

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz (who lives 10 miles from Fair Hill) at October 1, 2006 9:09 PM

    Thanks, cindy.

    Posted by: Barb AZ at October 1, 2006 9:09 PM

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    Jazz how was the weather - chilly???

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 9:10 PM

    Shelley...I had Folk down as one to watch but didn't get to see the race. I've got her in my virtual stable so should get something from Equibase soon.

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 9:10 PM

    thankee, bArbaro, fer bringgingg (not booiiinnggginng but allmos) us all the latess. tell ur mom (afore she gets alll serioos agin) we shirley did neeed sum laffs. luv u n ur mom too, n keeep ur own stile, Dooooooooood!

    bArbaro wannaabbees, Chile n Basil

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 9:11 PM

    Shelley - who is Chili and Basil

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 9:13 PM

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    Nancy in CT - did TO play today? I see the Cowboys kicked some butt - just curious if he did anything outstanding if he did play?

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 9:15 PM

    Sally,

    It was 49 in the am and was near 73 when I left. An absolutely gorgeous day.

    Jazz

    Posted by: Jazz (who lives 10 miles from Fair Hill) at October 1, 2006 9:16 PM

    Shelley...I just watched the replay and she just bolted to the outside, didn't she? Looked like Edgar managed to control her and she did cross the line so they're both ok.
    Echo of Light did the same thing to Frankie Dettori yesterday, but they were in front of the pack.

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 9:18 PM

    k anty shelley yuore' welcum and anty sally yuo too no mane trim im growin my hare out for the wintur and wattup chili an basil and antysallyrumbulkiddens
    im goin bak to my foldur in the disk cusshun bords now dont want misturunklealexbrown to hafta do more werk than he alreddy duz
    love bArbaro

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at October 1, 2006 9:19 PM

    ###With the talk of healing our planet (and I for one believe this is part of the message Bobby was sent to give us)- I remembered a post, I think it came from Lee, and this from Dostoyevsky was included in that post:

    Love the animals. God has given them rudiments of thought and joy untroubled.

    Do not harass them, do not trouble them, and do not deprive them of their happiness – do not work against God’s intent.

    Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to the animals, for they are without sin –
    and you, with your greatness,
    defile the earth by your appearance on it,
    and leave the traces of your foulness after you.

    -Foydor Dostoyevsky

    Love, Light and Protection for The Boys (always)

    God Bless and Protect Us and all of The Horses

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 9:20 PM

    See you later in the forum Barbaro!!!

    XXOO

    Aunty Sally

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 9:26 PM

    Barbaro

    I love you so very much...you are my sunshine! I hope you have ACN and I will check on you in the morning. BIG HUGS & KISSESS!!!

    Prayers to Erin and her family and loved ones.

    BLB!!!

    Karen - TN

    Posted by: Karen at October 1, 2006 9:27 PM

    Sally -

    Chile is a 3 year old brindle Great Dane, Basil is a 9 month old fawn Great Dane. Both beautiful natural eared... Basil is galumpy and gigantus at this point, and has just surpassed Chile who is elegant and graceful in both height and weight. Watching a Great Dane who is structurally correct run is the closest I can come to watching horses run. There is a beauty in all animals, but when you are blessed with those who are healthy, happy and able to move it takes your breath away. I just mentioned movement, because I have had those who couldn't through no fault of their own, but when it comes together you realize how rare it is. That's where the wannabee came from...

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 9:27 PM

    ALEX - I didn't see the races today but many people have commented on the differences in racing in England from US. The TV cameras are in all the right places - there is a parade before each race - why don't they do that here!!! It would make it so much better. More of a celebration of horses that just racing!!!

    Any thoughts on that ALEX??

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 9:28 PM

    Hello fellow fans

    Margaret, Shelley in CA and Robbie,

    Thanks so much for providing us with a "replay" of yesterday at GGF.

    Judy in Nazareth,

    Thanks for the link to the video of "Quite a Rush". Wow - I can see why everyone was so impressed. I, too, am amazed at her likeness to LITF.

    ShelleyA

    Glad to see you are posting again. We missed you while you were away - even if only for a few days.

    ##########
    bArbaro
    I love it when you post here. It's some well needed humor.

    Janice

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at October 1, 2006 9:29 PM

    Great Danes - oh - wannabees - makes perfect sense now. They are beautiful dogs - BIG dogs. Had a friend who had a Dane and something else mixed in. Nice dogs. Little Horses!!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 9:31 PM

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    Jo (UK) just the preview of the race is making me sooooo crazy...cannot wait to see Discreet Cat....oh,my.......

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 9:33 PM

    Pamela - did you see that Barbaro posted above???

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 9:35 PM

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    Darn...I always seem to miss the Big Guy...was taking a nap!! Will ck it out...tee hee

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 9:40 PM

    #
    Linda H,

    Thanks for the tip about Whey Low, I'll look for it.

    The kind of stevia I get is in a liquid dropper bottle, the brand is "Planetary Herbals". I tried the dry leaf stevia once but didn't like it at all. The liquid is very concentrated, you need very little, about 5 drops in a cup of tea.

    May you find sweetness in life!

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at October 1, 2006 9:40 PM

    #####

    Darn again...field is now down to FIVE in the 9th at Belmont...It would be so much better if the field was bigger and more competitive....Like Barbaro's stupendous victory in the Kentucky Derby....

    OOOOO...announcers are saying a BARBARO/DISCREET CAT race would have been wonderful...(MIKE C...notice they DID NOT MENTION BERNARDINI hehehehehe)

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 9:45 PM

    Go Discreet Cat - safe race to all!

    Pamela - tell me what happens - please

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 9:46 PM

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    Well, Sally, close your eyes and envision a horse running all by himself...

    Discreet Cat is so good...he can take the competition...I sincerely wish there had been some....

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 9:50 PM

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    Very Boring.....

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 9:50 PM

    I could hardly stand it! I had to listen to the commentary and then wait for the replay to show up! The Cat cruised home and won by 10 lengths. That horse is amazing!!!

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 9:54 PM

    ######

    Honestly, Jo (UK) I was very disappointed in the actual race...there were only five horses in the race, DC took the lead, even with Gomez fighting to hold him back...and he had the race won by the first turn...

    I guess part of strategy is the placing of horses in particular races...I just think this horse is so special that I would LOVE to see him take on the very best and give us that brilliance at the finish...

    I think I am really trying to say that DC has me SUPER SPOILED! It was so wonderful to see him at all...I shouldn't be complaining.

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 9:59 PM

    I don't care if people are too scared to run their horses against him, I just love to watch him go...sheer poetry in motion! We all knew how it was going to go...you can't pace this horse because he loves to run :-)
    Valid Notebook was supposed to be a danger. Errr...who???

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 10:04 PM

    ######

    HEHEHE Jo(UK) I am sitting here antsy cause I wanna see him race again! I personally think that he can beat anyone out there today (Notice I said today since Barbaro can't run)...Wouldn't you love to see Discreet Cat out in front of a huge field...wait...that was BARBARO at the Kentucky Derby...hehehe

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 10:08 PM

    ######

    I think "too scared" is a very appropriate way to phrase it...

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 10:09 PM

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    SALLY - fine win for the Cowboys today and, yes, T.O. did play. I didn't see all the game because I was also checking the Jets and racing....gone are the days, at least for now, when I could pick one game and watch it straight through. So I don't know what kind of a game T.O. had, although the announcer commented that he "makes the Cowboys a better team." I always watch Inside the NFL each week on HBO, and yesterday all 4 of the commentators were saying that T.O. should be checked out by a "professional" before being allowed back in the game....wonder if they will have any comment next week about him in the game today.

    WOW, DISCREET CAT IS ONE GORGEOUS HUNK OF HORSE!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at October 1, 2006 10:13 PM

    Thanks Nancy - I agree with the HBO guys - he needs professional help. He could still play but he needs counciling.

    Thanks again - missed the Cat - guess it wasn't much of a race.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 10:17 PM

    Yes, Pamela...I would love to see him with a bigger field behind him, only for the reason that he could end up in the same boat as his mate, Bernardini, with people thinking that he only wins because there's no competition! lol

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 1, 2006 10:19 PM

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    Nancy - watching the Pats - love them - number 2 team in my heart. I thought it would be a blow out - guess not. TOM BRADY - whew!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 10:20 PM

    Article on The Fog's memorial from Thoroughbred Times.

    http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/todaysnews/newsview.asp?recno=66804&subsec=1

    God Bless The Fog

    Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2006 10:35 PM

    thanks Mary for the link!!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 1, 2006 10:38 PM

    Margaret in SF (Michael's Miracle)

    I just watched the video of the 4th race at GGF with your love bucket, Eliminator, who snuffled you all over and laughed at your nose kiss! He was fifth in a mile race with lots of competition, a really pretty boy and well run race! How neat to watch the horse who nuzzled you yesterday...

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 10:45 PM

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    Shelley,
    Trying to check, but sometimes an equipment change is needed....I have seen some weird things training. Veering off (no fault of Edgars) and have seen them jump right over the rail. I actually had a horse that went into a cornfield to flip over so he could toss me and not hurt himself...never mind ME, LOL!!!!
    Not their fault or anyways, sometimes they just jump at shadows. So will check on Folk.
    Love,
    Susan
    Believe in Miracles. Believe in our Sweet Bobby J.
    Love to my Angels.

    Posted by: SusanW at October 1, 2006 10:53 PM

    Hiya, Bobbey! Hope that you had some grazing time today. It rained like crazy here this AM but cleared out in the afternoon. Kita got a great walk & is now ensconced on the sofa. "All creatures great & small." May your evening be a relaxing one, sweet prince, with the massage blanket prior to bedtime. Higs, pets, & "scratches" from your pals in CT - Robyn, Brent, & Nikita (the horse-loving Husky)

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at October 1, 2006 10:55 PM

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    Jo (UK) isn't that the truth...I am sitting here wondering why DC being DC isn't enough today...Darn...the horse is poetry in motion...has an unbeaten record...I guess I just wanna see him close the door on some other horseys so I can dance around and say "I told ya so" ....darn...am too competitive for my own good...

    Posted by: Pamela at October 1, 2006 11:41 PM

    Grow Hoof Grow....... I love you Mr.Barbaro Jackson! Keep getting better South Carolina loves you and prays for you......... Belinda

    Posted by: Belinda Duncan at October 1, 2006 11:43 PM

    mike c - you mentioned how eeriely Quite a Rush looks like and runs like Fog. Harry's third horse, Smokey Stover, is running in the 8th race at GGF in about 30 minutes... I just checked on pedigreequery.com and they have a photo of him (when you click on the icon near the name, you get the photo - as you undoubtedly know but others might not). If I didn't know how offset Fog's blaze was, I would have thought I was looking at Fog. Maybe that's Harry's mark?

    Greg Gilchrist just had another fabulous win at GGF with a maiden filly, 6 furlongs, winning a field of 12 by 11 lengths! Her name is Jaco's Mistress...

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 1, 2006 11:52 PM

    Judy in WA - thanks for posting about the MSNBC "The Week in Pictures" moving picture of the horse saved from the trailer accident. For those who did not find it on the forum, here is the link... picture #12.


    Word. This picture is worth a thousand thousand words.

    Like many of the FOB, I've been trying to help with this issue for months -- thanks to Barbaro -- seen the haunting, creepy slaughter house videos, called Washington, watched and wept at the House vote on C-Span. Learned more than I wanted to know about this, run the gamut of emotions. Thought I'd seen it all and gotten to a place of compassionate balance. Finally.

    But then this picture comes along and I am done. Finished. Bawling like a baby.

    I have never seen a more eloquent expression of what is so wrong and so right about people and horses. What can we do with this image? Seriously.

    From CAHorses41 (thank you) "If you want to contact the photographer who took this compelling photo and thank him for it, here is his contact info at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

    Robert Cohen, Photographer


    rcohen@post-dispatch.com

    314-340-8277

    That horse looks SO relieved. His life was spared."

    Posted by: Susan in Saratoga at October 1, 2006 11:55 PM

    Goodnight Alex thanks for the articles...as usual they are compelling and compassionate.

    LITF
    The geese flying over the winner's circle with one missing to make up a pair formation really got to me. My husband who was a Navy man on a carrier in his career also felt it strongly...." the missing man" tribute.....LITF you may be missing but not forgotten!!

    Bobbycakes another day healthier and healed...love you big beautiful UNDEFEATED champion!!

    Nite gang! God Bless you all.

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at October 2, 2006 12:01 AM

    For those of you that want to relive Barbaro's most shining moment...

    http://www.kentuckyderby.com/2006/derby_videos/

    Posted by: Ernie at October 2, 2006 12:05 AM

    Ernie
    Almost cut the computer off and saw your post....I watch that two times a day....get a thrill every time.

    Posted by: D'Anne in NC at October 2, 2006 12:08 AM

    Good Evening, Fans of Barbaro!

    First, thanks to all who gave such moving accounts of the Tribute to LITF. That some of you got to meet Mr. & Mrs. Aleo is stunning news. Robbie, any hope of posting your photos?

    I watched Quite a Rush...and yes, she runs like wildfire. I knew there was a Ruffian link somewhere...and the resemblance to Foggy is rather comforting right now.

    Martita, I have GOT to meet you. Any hope of you coming to Pennsylvania???? Soon????

    Mary S. your prayers continue to inspire me and guide my meditations.

    Richard Cohen's photo is compelling...just compelling. By the way the horse is resting its head, it (he???) is relieved and relaxed. Oh, how I wish I could get there to help...it shows simple compassion and caring. And isn't that why we're on this earth in the first place????

    ShelleyA, thank you for your continued guidance...hope you are healing quickly. Will go back to hounding Sen. Santorum.

    Shelley/CA and Anna/TX re the chemicals discussion - you may be onto something.I've always felt that yes, the medical profession is needed, but that we also have natural healing mechanisms that should not be suppressed. The holistic and allopathic can work together for health and well-being.

    LITF, you twinkle in the night sky, my Long Time Sun.

    Barbaro...you had a bath yesterday, hopefully have been out grazing. Grow, hoof, grow. I can just picture the gleam in your eye when your mom comes by. Be nice to her...she wants you to come home as do we all.

    Must go back to flyer design. More later.

    Take care, everybody.

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at October 2, 2006 12:20 AM

    Has anyone else noticed that Barbaro is the horse that they measure ALL of the other horses against? That is because even in his recovery he far excells what other horses are capable of. I have laughingly pictiured him running the breeders cup in his cast, grabbing the other horses by their tails and tossing them aside just to win! That horse is so determined and has so much fire no one else is even close. Remember what Greg G. said about the Fog..it isn't all in ability!

    Posted by: Mary at October 2, 2006 12:23 AM

    Mary - love the Breeders Cup visual - I can see it - too funny - OK Berndini - off you go, Invasor - off you go too buddy, next ...

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 2, 2006 12:25 AM

    ###########################

    So, are you saying that, somehow, either a horse named Bernardini, or his handlers/connections, have something to do with this?

    My response ... Ridiculous, Absurd, Preposterous and Unbelievable. It's the "luck of the draw" and maybe there's some reason why it appears as if all the chips are falling in the right place for Bernardini ... but it certainly is NOT the fault or responsibility of the "horse" or his handlers/connections. I hope this isn't what you are implying/infering by your post.
    ################################################

    Bernadini's owners have said their "dream" was to win the American races. I wonder if anyone has noticed that any horse running against Bernadini has come up sick or lame and theories surrounding:

    Barabaro breaks from the gate early (usually, would mean he is scratched, then breaks down)
    The horse at Saratoga supposed to beat Bernadini comes in second and then is retired due to a fetlock fracture (hmm, same type of fracture Barbaro had)
    now, Invasor comes up with a 103 temp and cannot make a scheduled practice and is now NOT running against Bernadini
    I believe I have seen a few other instances like this - conspiracy?????? Believe what you may.

    Posted by: TWR Fan at October 1, 2006 2:20 PM

    Posted by: Linnie at October 2, 2006 12:26 AM

    Hola Barbaro Family,
    I see that it's a good day here in Barbaro world:
    horse racing, Shelley's back, no flamers ....and big B. posted himself. I love the word "kungfooooozed": it's a perfect description of my usual mental state.

    I hope all FOB's are well and may we have luck tomorrow with our esteemed employees in Washington.

    Barbaro you make me laugh and isnspire me. Most of all you teach me what courage and perseverance looks like.Grow hoof grow.

    Posted by: Marky at October 2, 2006 12:31 AM

    SMOKEY STOVER WON - !!

    What a great weekend for Harry Aleo and Greg Gilchrist. This was the 8th race at GGF today. I am SO happy for them... and Fog, you would be proud.

    Thank you, Alex, for allowing us to share the happy and the sad, the grief and the joy. Thank you, Barbaro, for your angel eyes and indomitable spirit, who made this possible and continues to make us believe in miracles.

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 2, 2006 12:36 AM

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    Yes, Sally that is exactly as I see it! So funny!

    Posted by: Mary at October 2, 2006 12:36 AM

    Ernie - thank you for the link to the Derby - I just watched it 3 times again. I have replayed it so many times but not for a week or two.

    It is just amazing.....

    Posted by: Jeri at October 2, 2006 12:44 AM

    GOOD NIGHT, SWEET BARBARO...I'm hitting the hay early because it's AHWW coming up (another hectic work week), so I'll kiss you good night on your velvety nose, wish you ACN with sweet dreams and healing leg and hoof...and just remember how much you are loved and appreciated for all the good works you inspire!
    BARBARO - CHAMPION OF MY HEART
    Nancy

    LOST IN THE FOG - You are the brightest star in my night sky, and I love you!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at October 2, 2006 12:58 AM

    Andy Rooney on 60 minutes just talked AGAINST eating horses for humans!! did not say anythin about the bill but did say it is not right to consider the horse as "food"!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at October 2, 2006 1:03 AM

    Mary, that is GREAT! Everybody watches that show.

    Posted by: Barb AZ at October 2, 2006 1:04 AM

    here is his written part on his segmanet tonight:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/28/60minutes/rooney/main2048965.shtml

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at October 2, 2006 1:05 AM

    Mary I saw that too - too bad we hadn't gotten to him before he aired the piece maybe we could hav gotten him to mention S1915

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 2, 2006 1:06 AM

    I hope today was a good day for you Barbaro. You have a really peaceful, healing night and get plenty of rest now. You're in my thoughts and prayers, as always. Hugs and kisses honey boy. I love you Barbaro.

    I miss you Foggy.

    There will be miracles...
    when you believe.

    Posted by: Sandie at October 2, 2006 1:08 AM

    Susan in Saratoga,

    I am going to contact the photographer at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and see if he will sell me a copy of that photo. I can't stop looking at it. It is PRICELESS!

    Carol
    San Diego

    Posted by: Carol at October 2, 2006 1:10 AM

    ##

    I did email him and many others at CBS.

    he emailed back (well his secretary) and said he tries not to support any one stance but that he was appauled that someone was doing this and would see if he could work it into a show of his.. I was surprised to see that mentioned!!

    I have also heard from Ms Katy Couric also, so maybe????????? crossing fingers

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at October 2, 2006 1:11 AM

    Good Work Mary L - the segment was good.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 2, 2006 1:12 AM

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    Just when you think NO one is listening that you email or write to, then you see this, kind of gives you renewed hope!!

    now to continue with getting the major networks anchors on board, morning and evening ones.. Only one I have received a reply from was Ms Couric. She simply said " she would look into it and talk it over with the network people".

    Cnn seems to be the toughest to get any kind of answers from.. but won't give up..

    just made my bad day a bit better to see that!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at October 2, 2006 1:17 AM

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    CHERYL JONES-I really appreciate that informative article you posted about feline/canine vaccinations. I do understand that the diseases are much worse than the supposed risk of the cancer. I was just so mortified at the thought of my Sweetness "maybe" getting sick in this manner, that it quite threw me off track. Please believe that I am forst in line for the rabies and distemper and especially the feline leukemia vaccine. I had a cat named Harry that died from feline leukemia back in the early 80's, right after I got out of high school I was so naive (family also) and we only thought oh, he just needs rabies/distemper...little did we know he was BORN with it, all the kittens in his litter ended up expiring from this horrible malady. I will never watch a cat go through that again. It was awful. Thanks again for the info. I know, with all animals, as with humans-the preventative is ALWAYS better than the inevitable---disease.

    Posted by: Dora J Crow from Montgomery, Alabama at October 2, 2006 1:25 AM

    Don't we usually get a Sunday night report on Barbaro from Alex?

    Posted by: cindy a at October 2, 2006 1:30 AM

    Robbie Fresno's story of the geese was just beautiful.

    Good for Andy Rooney...No truer words can be spoken. Let's hope a lot of people were watching 60 Minutes.

    Good night everyone. Sleep well Barbaro. We love you!

    Posted by: Pam Mross at October 2, 2006 1:31 AM

    Ahhh, Mary, you're a wonder. I love Andy Rooney for his willingness to put it all out there when other people try to be so politicially correct, and I applaud CBS for letting him do so. He has said things in the past that others are now willing to say, so maybe he'll kick some ice out of the river for the rest.

    Blessings to you, hope you are doing better from that miserable surgery (my husband took what seemed like months for that shoulder to feel better, and he had a high tolerance for pain).

    Do you have any time left for reading?

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at October 2, 2006 1:31 AM

    Yeah for Andy Rooney..very popular news show..good publicity.

    No sunday night update yet...Alex has said they are hard to get so I would not worry.

    Posted by: Mary at October 2, 2006 1:40 AM

    A few days ago someone posted a link to the separate photos that were used for the video "Run for the Roses". Can someone help me find that???? Thanks! ecdoesit3@att.net

    Posted by: Ernie at October 2, 2006 1:48 AM

    What a great description of the tribute to LITF! It felt like I was there also.

    I know I'll treasure the card I received from Greg Gilchrest with Foggy on the front, laughing!

    Hey Barbaro sweetie, did you have a good day? Lots of fun for our beautiful boy? Time to tuck you in, fluff up your bedding, turn on the nite lite, and whisper a lullabye in your ear. You have a wonderful sleep, with lovely dreams and I'll be checking on you in the morning, babycakes!
    Hugs and smoochies!

    G'nite Foggy

    Posted by: Toby at October 2, 2006 1:49 AM

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    Shelley in Ca

    Reading is what is keeping me "sane" from this surgery. It has not been fun, PT has been miserable and have some people who are willing to take a rubber mallet to the PT guy.. ha ha.. I knew this would be a bit painful to endure but dang, not as bad as the first 3 sessions were. Plus I fell yesterday and had to go get 3 new stitches in... so today has (was) take it easy day, was barely on the computer. read one book just today!! Watched some football and then saw the 60 minutes and good ole Andy.. Just made my evening!!!


    Just so thankful for my daughter as she has put together some generic emails for me to use, easier to do things that way. Plus she has a group at OSU that are banding together to spread the word. She has been my godsend for letter writing and footwork the last couple of weeks!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at October 2, 2006 2:02 AM

    Good evening, Sweet Bobby-I was able to spend some time with some horses today. I was glad to be able to give them some loving attention & cuddling--of course I thought of you & wished I could cuddle & spoil you too! I hope you have a beautiful fall night, with happy, healing dreams. You are my hero & inspiration! Love & prayers XXOO


    Dear Fog, we all miss you deeply, but know you have a job to do in heaven. You are also a hero & inspiration to us all. God Bless & bring comfort your family as they all love you so. I just know your spirit was present at yesterday's ceremony. Bless you, Fog...Until we see you again. There is a new star in heaven shining down upon us. Love & prayers for you, Fog.

    Blessings to all my fellow Barbaro fans out there. You are all special souls. Restful night to you, Alex. :>)

    Posted by: Cheryl -- NY at October 2, 2006 2:07 AM

    Fans of Barbaro!

    One last observation. Was watching PBS - latest show in a series about Windsor Castle and the Royal Family. It was filmed at Christmas time and the carolers were serenading the Queen and her family...and the horses in the Royal Stables. Gorgeous animals amd they LOVED the attention...:)

    One more reason why I love the British people.

    Sleep well everybody.

    Healing and Peace,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at October 2, 2006 2:11 AM

    Hello Barbaro,

    Did you have a fun day today? I'll bet there were carrots in your day! Maybe some spearmints too. Grazing with a friend?! I hope all of these and more happened for you!

    But, it's time to tuck you in for the night. The nights are chilly so grab one of the warmest blankets you have.

    Only sweet dreams for you Honey. Close your eyes and dream of tomorrow. Visits from family and friends, happy times with your Team, lots of treats and grazing time. Maybe even slip a little nap in there somewhere. You know, most of this would be a good day for anybody!! But, it can be all yours Barbaro.
    Good night Honey. I love you. XXOO

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at October 2, 2006 2:20 AM

    Congradulations to Mr Matz for winning BOTH RACES today!!!!! Tiffany Twisted AND Suprise Inside!!! This was Tiffany's FIRST WIN. No more maidens for her!!!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 2, 2006 2:27 AM

    Barbaro - my sweet - time to tuck you in. You snuggle in your straw and grab your winter blankie and stretch out. Dream happy, healing, horsie dreams. I'll check in on you in the AM. Sleep well. XXOO AND SCRATCHIES

    Ima - you snuggle in your straw - grab a warm blankie and stetch out. Have happy mommie dreams. XXOO and SCRATCHIES

    Alibi - I hope you are feeling better sweetie. Rest your legs so you can race again soon. Snuggle in for the night. Have happy healing horsie dreams. XXOO and SCRATCHIES

    I love you ALL!!!!

    Aunty Sally

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 2, 2006 2:32 AM

    I'm well into bottle #2 of wine after a grueling soccer game with my boys this evening. However, I cannot go to sleep before wishing Barbaro and all FOB a good evening. Sounds like things went will with the Matz horses today - and I cannot help but to root for a horse called "Tiffany Twisted". Love it.

    Big guy, you sleep well tonight and wake up bright and early tomorrow for another week of INSPIRING US!!!!

    Sleep well FOB/

    Posted by: Sheila at October 2, 2006 2:35 AM

    Sally in Key West,

    Is IMA expecting?! Did I miss the announcement?

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at October 2, 2006 2:35 AM

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    Did they Cowboys win today?

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri at October 2, 2006 2:36 AM

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    Everybody,

    I apologize. My last post to Sally in Key West, I forgot #####.

    I'm sorry.

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at October 2, 2006 2:38 AM

    Thank you Alex for all the racing updates - Love them

    Good night Big B - Thank you - Lord - for giving us Barbaro.

    God Bless the horses and all other living creatures - we love them and need them. How they enrich our lives everyday.

    Posted by: Danielle from South NJ at October 2, 2006 2:44 AM

    Cowboys kicked butt today.

    Ima is not expecting - she is at her new farm and she is with 3 yearlings and has become mommie to them. Shelley says she is very protective of them. She is practicing to me a mommy!

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 2, 2006 2:45 AM

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    Sally in Key West,

    Thank you for setting me straight!! I've seen Ima referenced as Mommy and such and drew a hopeful conclusion!

    Take care Sally! Thank you again!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at October 2, 2006 2:47 AM

    Laura - maybe next year - she is going to be bred this spring - she is just practicing right now.

    Posted by: Sally in Key West at October 2, 2006 2:54 AM

    Goodnight to all and especially to Barbaro! Keep growing that hoof, boy, one day at a time! We'll be here for you, every single day.
    Sally, thanks for clarifying Ima's mommy practice. Glad she is taking to it so well!
    Sweet dreams.

    Go Barbaro Go!

    Nancy in Va Beach :)

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at October 2, 2006 3:06 AM

    Great day today; another ACN for Bobby and the Redskins won a tough battle (sorry all you Cowgirl fans, but I love my Skins!)!!!

    Have a peaceful sleep, Bobby boy! Tomorrow starts another week of work for most of us (darn!) and healing for you - GROW HOOF GROW!!

    The Fog must have loved his memorial service; so special, he was! It is wonderful that his connections are such gracious people, just like yours, Bobby.

    My best to all Fans of Barbaro! You start and end my days. Thanks again, Alex. You are amazing to take care of us like this. Where would we be without you?

    Posted by: Judy B at October 2, 2006 3:10 AM

    Goodnight magnificent horse. I pray believing and expectin there will be more good reports for you tomorrow. Sleep well under God's protection.

    Night all ....

    Posted by: Susan in TX at October 2, 2006 3:17 AM

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    They won't be breeding I'Ma until April 07

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at October 2, 2006 3:19 AM

    Goodnight magnificent horse. I pray believing and expectin there will be more good reports for you tomorrow. Sleep well under God's protection.

    Night all ....

    Posted by: Susan in TX at October 2, 2006 3:20 AM

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    dang hit something wrong and posted to quickly

    Ima is a "surrogate" momma to some yearlings at the moment, she is really attached to one yearling and is protective of her, I think her name was "white ice"... this has helped her mental state being with the youngins and healing from her ordeal

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at October 2, 2006 3:21 AM

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    sorry Ms Sally, saw now you answered htat, did not mean to repeat that about Ima :(

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at October 2, 2006 3:27 AM

    Goodnight Barbaro,I love you very much!Sleep Well Big Ole Boy!!

    For all Felines not feeling frisky: Bdude, Daisy, Rockette---FEEL BeTTer :)

    Erin, Mike Rea-prayers for all

    Posted by: Dora J Crow from Montgomery, Alabama at October 2, 2006 4:02 AM

    Time to tuck you in, you Velvet-Nosed Squealer. I've been off doing family things all day so I've been unable to post or lurk beyond two quick update checks--and getting promises from my nieces and nephew to take flyers to their college campuses! I am sure you had ACD, and this culminates in a milestone ACW!!!!!!

    Another big step on the way to recovery. Have ACN tonight, sleep well, heal, and dream happy dreams. Be careful getting up and down and no clowning! See you tomorrow, pumpkin.

    Good night, Barbaro Nation. I miss talking to you!

    Posted by: Susan E. at October 2, 2006 4:13 AM

    Goodnight beautiful Barbaro....

    BELIEVE IN MIRACLES
    BELIEVE IN BARBARO

    Lindann

    Posted by: Lindann at October 2, 2006 4:15 AM

    Goodnight sweet Barbaro. Rest up for your exciting week ahead, full of friendly visits and outside time and goodies galore. Grow that hoof big guy. Butterfly kisses to you.

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    As I was looking for the photo of Round Pond pausing in a field of tall grass, a photo by Lydia A.Williams, I happened across her photos of Barbaro. They are part of her racing gallery. Some pictures are on TWR, but there are a few that are so touching of him looking out over his paddock fence at horses coming to Fair Hill. If you haven't seen these they are well worth a visit.

    www.theshedrow.com Under Racing Gallery.

    All her photos are beautiful and I did find the beautiful Round Pond.

    Posted by: Rosemary in Ohio at October 2, 2006 4:29 AM

    GOODNIGHT SWEET BOBBY!
    Wishing you another comfortable night and a pain free day tomorrow. You remain our "undefeated Champion!" Keep dreamin' 'bout those mares "B".
    You're in our thoughts and prayers 24/7.
    God Bless and God Speed.

    ALEX,
    Thanks for all the updates and for keeping us in the loop on Fog's Memorial all weekend. Have a wonderful night sleep and a productive day tomorrow. God Bless.

    TO: ALL BARBARO AMBASSADORS, SHELLEY A, CARROT POSSE, INDY, AND ALL OF THE TIM WOOLLEY "FANS OF BARBARO"

    TIME HAS COME TO JOIN FORCES NOW!!!!!!!! LET'S DO IT FOR BOBBY, FOR ALL OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS, FOR THE HORSES CURRENTLY BEING LOADED ONTO A TRUCK HEADED FOR SLAUGHTER, FOR GRETCHEN AND ROY JACKSON, FOR TIM AND ALEX, FOR YOU, FOR ME, FOR OUR FAMILIES, FOR OUR COUNTRY......PLEASE.

    AT THIS TIME, I THINK IT BEST THAT WE ALL COME TOGETHER ON THE TIM WOOLLEY SITE AND SPLIT UP IN GROUPS! FOR EXAMPLE:
    ONE GROUP (FOCUSES ON TENNESSEE MEDIA)
    SECOND GROUP (FOCUSES ON THE COMMERCE COMMITTE MEMBERS WHO HAVE YET TO COSPONSOR)
    THIRD GROUP (FOCUSES ON SENATOR FRIST OFFICE)
    FOURTH GROUP FOCUSES ON GETTING THEIR SENATORS TO COSPONSOR!

    Need a Group for (FOCUSING ON TEXAS MEDIA)
    HAVE I FORGOTTEN ANYTHING HERE?

    PLEASE ALL RESPOND. ENCOURAGE ALL FEEDBACK GOOD OR BAD. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT AND BELIEVE IF WE ALL COME TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE THE BIGGEST DIFFERNCE. I WOULD RECOMMEND 4 OR MORE GROUPS???

    ALEX HAD A GREAT IDEA AND SUGGESTED WE SET UP A TIME AND DAY TO CHAT IN THE CHAT ROOM. ONCE WE KNOW IF THERE'S INTEREST, WE WILL PICK A TIME AND DAY!

    ALL INTERESTED PARTIES, PLEASE GO TO THE ANTI SLAUGHTER FORUM AND POST YOUR MESSAGE UNDER "LIST OF PEOPLE/GROUPS PARTICIPATING"

    1)BARBARO AMBASSADORS/CAMPAIGNINGFORBARBARO.COM AS ONE GROUP,
    2)SHELLEY A'S TEAM AS ANOTHER,
    3)CARROT POSSE? AS ANOTHER TEAM?
    4)(OTHER TEAM,)

    GOD BLESS AND GOD SPEED

    Posted by: Debra, WI at October 2, 2006 4:46 AM

    Glad to hear Bobby doing well. I myself am headed across country with my mare, from Wy, to SC. Five days trip! don't want to stress the mare too much. Altitude is the problem, along with barometric pressure! She is a weather horse.

    Sleep well, keep healing Bobby.

    Posted by: Emily Cooper at October 2, 2006 5:42 AM

    Good morning, Bobby...back to work this morning so I won't be around as much. I'll be checking on you though!

    Just got my Equibase results for my last two races last night...they were at Golden Gate Fields so too late for me to watch, but congratulations to Greg Gilchrist for a win by Jaco's Mistress, and yet another Harry Aleo/Greg Gilchrist win with Smokey Stover...who (at first glance) is even more of a Lost in the Fog look-alike than Quite a Rush because the colour is spot on...the blaze is narrower though.

    A great day's racing all round. I hope they all stayed safe. Did anyone hear about Sharp Writer yet?

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 2, 2006 7:15 AM

    Friar Tuck...please tell Maid M that Quite A Rush was born on 9th February 2004
    (in case she hasn't already found the dob herself)

    Posted by: Jo (UK) at October 2, 2006 7:20 AM

    Barbaro....good night to you dear one....
    Sending love,hugs and praying for you!!
    I saw the pics in that other gallery,and they are just spectacular!


    Thanks Alex and all who reported on the Tribute to the Fog..The geese...amazing...


    Mr Aleo and Mr Gilchrist ..another win and another 'Fog' look alike'....wow,Jo..thank for that report..


    Watching Quite a Rush race was great! I was so happy for Mr A and Mr G.


    Good night Barbaro,sweet dear love!


    Love,
    Linda A
    Oregon

    Posted by: Linda A in Ore. at October 2, 2006 7:49 AM

    Good morning, Barbaro. Good morning, all Fans of Barbaro. (Good morning, Jo!)

    Looks like it was a good weekend at the tracks for all our friends. Congratulations to Michael Matz and Greg Gilchrist on their victories!

    It's cool and damp in Maine this morning. We're supposed to have a frost later this week, which makes me happy. (Can ski season be far behind?)

    I will wait patiently for our update this morning.

    Proud member, Fans of Barbaro

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at October 2, 2006 10:08 AM

    Good morning Alex, Bobby and fellow fans of Barbaro. (Good morning Marg & Jo)

    Waiting for the Monday morning update - ACN - the magic words.

    Continue to fight the good fight and let's make sure the horse slaughterhouses in this country close forever. Please don't get discouraged and don't give up.

    Blessings all!!!

    Janice

    Proud to be a "fan of Barbaro"

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at October 2, 2006 10:28 AM

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