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    Barbaro Updates: 213

    updates are now here.

    Update 1516: Back at the barn for feed time (and Hawty Creek's papaya juice). Gatornation and Red Aspen were back from Laurel. All looks well and Tim was pretty upbeat. Emily stopped by, she is a guest panelist on equidaily.com's topic of the week: This Week: Synthetic surfaces. The time is right, or are we moving too fast? ... or perhaps not fast enough ?

    New Horse Slaughter legislation has been introduced in Illinois essentially looking to ban horse transportation into Illinois for the purpose of slaughter: Horse Slaughter Legislation Introduced in Illinois. Illinois is one of two states to have horse slaughter plants, the other being Texas.

    Update 1515: English Channel, who finished his 2006 campaign with a third in the Breeders' Cup Turf, won his 2007 debut, an allowance at Gulfstream. He won handily, in a ridiculously fast time. I guess his next race will be in Dubai. Better Talk Now, second in the Breeders' Cup Turf is also in training in Florida, and will have his first work shortly, perhaps this weekend.

    Update 1514: Gatornation ran second today in Laurel's first race. Tim had his jockey take Gator well off the pace so he could use his speed late in the race. Watching the race he did seem to drop back quite far, but sure enough he came charging down the lane. It looks like he only got beat about a half a length in the end. A nice return to the races by Gator. Tim also worked Red Aspen at Laurel this morning. She worked 3/8ths, her first work back this year. Tim was happy with the way she worked. A good visit to Laurel today.

    More early news for this year's triple crown, this time from Jay Privman: Sanders has seen classic stock before. Jamie Sanders is the trainer of Teuflesberg, "upset" winner of the Southwest Stakes. She worked for many years for Nick Zito, whose wife we featured yesterday in update 1508.

    Update 1513: With temperatures at about freezing point this morning there was plenty of ice about after the big thaw yesterday. The main concern at Fair Hill is to get the track back now as soon as possible. It seems people are hard at work on that. I spoke to Sally Goswell (Fair Hill manager) briefly this morning and she said the plan was to have the track tomorrow. I know people are frustrated, but I also remember how good the track was in the wicked cold temperatures of a couple of weeks ago. Lets hope this issue passes by the end of the week and we can all get back to regular training.

    I rode six today, Hawty Creek, Drop Kick Murphy, Nopariel and Bandit (Lynda Fox trainer) jogged around the horsepaths (which had a little bit of ice on them in spots so you had to be careful). The final two I jogged around the shedrow.

    Tim left for Laurel early this morning. Gator Nation is in the first race, he also took Red Aspen with him, I am guessing to gallop at Laurel this morning.

    Update 1512: Steve Haskins writes about the Kentucky Derby and trainers' strategy for getting horses ready for the first saturday in May: Kentucky Derby Trail: Two for the Road. I am not sure why Barbaro's five week gap between the Florida Derby and Kentucky Derby is considered a "layoff". I am sure he was in full training and likely more trainers may try the same this year.

    Santa Anita has now officially committed to a synthetic surface, and will put it in place during the Del Mar meet, no decision has yet been made as to which surface: Santa Anita to go synthetic this year.

    Penn National is still struggling to get its live racing program back: Penn National cancels Wednesday's live racing (its been about three weeks). I would be curious how they have managed their training hours in the morning.

    Comments

    Good Morning Alex, FOB & Sweet heavenly Barbaro.

    Thanks for the updates... very sad to hear of the female jockey that passed.

    Be safe and have a wonderful day!
    Lynn G
    East Stroudsburg, PA

    Posted by: Lynn G at February 22, 2007 10:24 AM

    Good Morning Barbaro!
    Good Morning Alex!
    Good Morning FOB's

    I hope each of you have a wonderful day.

    I still and always will believe in the Miracle called Barbaro!!!!

    Posted by: Debbie Cline at February 22, 2007 10:26 AM

    Good morning, Barbaro! Good morning, Alex! Good morning, fellow Fans!

    A round of toothpicks and lattes for all the Rosie watchers out there! And thanks to Mary L. for posting links to pictures for those of us who cannot watch (dial-up and Mac at home and over-protective IT dept. at work!).

    ###
    Janice in Florida - Thanks for the concern. Weather not a problem, just nothing to contribute and wanted to avoid the drama for a few days.

    I'm glad to hear Farouche is settling. I hope the misfortunes she suffered yesterday do not color her career.

    Prayers and comfort to all who are in need. Thanks to equine Heaven for the mid-day chuckles!

    Marg
    Proud Fan of Barbaro

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at February 22, 2007 11:14 AM

    Good morning all - and of course Big Boy

    Posted by: Stu at February 22, 2007 11:21 AM

    Good morning Alex and FOBs. Thanks for all you do to keep us updated, Alex. I live 10 minutes from Penn National and we've only just gotten out from under the bitter cold temps of February. Hopefully live racing will continue there soon and safely.

    PLEASE CALL AND FAX YOUR SENATORS AND REPS TODAY. Please do it in Barbaro's name. We must continue his legacy and end slaughter NOW.

    Posted by: Lor in PA at February 22, 2007 11:33 AM

    Good Morning all...Rosie is still all by her lonesome...she sure is hanging on to her baby.

    Have a wonderful day everyone.

    Posted by: Therese at February 22, 2007 11:33 AM

    Good Thursday Morning Alex, Barbaro and Barbaro Nation,

    Thanks for all the interesting reading material Alex.

    FsOB - Please get as many people to call Senators and Reps in support of S.311 and H.R. 503. We know the opposition is gathering its forces to fight this legislation.

    Rosie - is today the day? I'm going to ask my boss for permission to keep the cam up while I'm working. Hope he agrees.

    ########
    Marg,
    I understand and as a member of the morning shift am glad you're back.

    Janice
    A forever fan of Barbaro

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at February 22, 2007 11:39 AM

    Thanks Alex for continuing this site.

    Not been able to check the posts lately, have a lot of catching up to do.

    Sorry if this was already addressed, but did anyone make the connection of Harvick winning the Daytona 500, His car #29...

    I did finally get a response from my representative-Letson to the House confirming my letter to support HR 503; however, noncomittal.

    Barbaro's Legacy continues

    Posted by: Michelle-GBI NE OH at February 22, 2007 11:44 AM

    ##

    Good morning everyone,

    Like all of you, I'm a bit red-eyed this morning after having stayed up way too late to watch Shiraz and her colt, the donkey and Rosie. I certainly hope the bonding between Shiraz and her colt has progressed since last night. Poor sweet little one.

    Sad to hear of the passing of Allison Hershbell. Jack Ireland wrote a very good, moving, article about her (update 1511 from yesterday). I think Mr. Ireland is now my favorite turf-writer (who is living). One feels like they really knew the heart of Allison after reading his words. Very talented gentleman and such a sweet soul Allison was, who loved animals.

    Let's dedicate some calls/faxes/e-mails to our reps and the leaders of the three key committees today in honor of Allison. I obviously didn't know her, but from what I read, she would have appreciated it. Get everyone you know to contact their reps as well.

    Marge, welcome back!

    Rosie, is today the day? And Shiraz, please bond
    already if you haven't yet!

    Make it a good day everyone.

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 12:02 PM

    Hiya, morning FsOB! Marg, good to see you back on the morning shift. I'm eager to find out if I get a response from Congressman Courtney's staff today.
    To Alex: I was sorry to read of Allison Hershbell's passing.
    A good day to all FsOB. Peace, RMH

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at February 22, 2007 12:09 PM

    The horse is a holy creature
    sent to this earth to remind us of the Divine
    He is uniquely connected to us.
    He is our benevolent companion
    and our guide
    to the beingness we have forgotten.
    His four strong legs carry us when we are weak
    from the burdens of life.

    His beauty inspires us
    when our eyes are weary from crying.

    His spirit uplifts us when our hearts lie dormant

    Let us not forget.
    Let us not abandon him
    or any of his kind.
    Let us not relegate him to a beast of burden
    but acknowledge his unselfish gifts.

    Let us always care for him as long as his legs touch the earth
    and beyond.

    He is our reminder of what grace is
    He is our return to grace

    Only by awakening to the true awareness of the horse
    can we ever expect to understand him.
    He speaks to us in the language of the heart, not the mind.
    His true self is only given to those who seek to comprehend

    Only those who ask
    rather than demand
    will receive his undying loyalty and generosity of spirit.

    Awaken
    to the message of the horse . . .

    ~ Kim McElroy

    Posted by: Harriette Brillianthawk at February 22, 2007 12:26 PM

    Good morning, have a great day everyone!

    I love you so much, Barbaro!!!

    Posted by: Amie at February 22, 2007 12:29 PM

    Harriette, that was lovely. Thanks for sharing it with us. I love starting my day with those beautiful thoughts.

    Mary L, or anyone in-the-know...what is going on with Shiraz and her colt? She does not seem at all interested in him, and I have yet to see him nurse. Will someone please step in there and help that poor baby and mama get into their groove. Yikes. I am getting worried. I see no bonding yet.

    Posted by: Therese at February 22, 2007 12:36 PM

    Morning Alex and All...

    Hope your Friday will be a good one.

    My first thoughts are still with Barbaro... Such a wonderful boy. My prayers continue for the Jacksons and Dr. Richardson during this passage.

    For Barbaro, please contact your representatives. Please donate what you can to end laminitis. It's the least we can do to do the most for our horses.

    Pam

    Posted by: Pam M at February 22, 2007 12:38 PM

    Good morning everyone. I see that Rosie hasn't had her baby yet so the pool is still open if anyone wants to get in on it!

    So far $175 is in the pool to go to the rescue of the winner's choice. Very fun stuff.

    Posted by: Wendy at February 22, 2007 12:40 PM

    I just got here...good morning, all!

    Looks like they turned off the camera for Shiraz and her colt? I can't get anything to come up. Sigh...that poor baby, I just knew something wasn't right. I feel so sad for both of them.

    Rosie's still...eating! Great googly moogly, girl...

    I was talking to a woman at rehearsal last night and told her about watching Rosie all day. She wanted the link so *she* could watch, too, then started talking about Barbaro. We both got all teared up. I told her to email me, and I'd send her the link to this site. Amazing...I'd never talked to this woman before because I sing tenor and am always with the guys. But for two songs, I'm doing low, LOW alto so I come to the soprano/alto rehearsal...and meet a fellow Barbaro fan!

    As always, thanks Tim and Alex, for this site and for all I'm learning because of it!!!

    Last night, I realized why LaurieH's tuck-ins effect me so much...I do the same thing with my pets every night. Of course, they're not as eloquent, and I don't write them down, but as I go to sleep each night with a dog on one side of me and a cat on the other, I talk to them about their day and wish them sweet dreams. We have a similar morning ritual when I ask about the doggy-dreams and kitty-dreams.

    How much bigger can Rosie get?

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 12:45 PM

    Good morning Barbaro, have fun in Heaven today. God Bless!

    Rosie, hope today is the day.

    Alex, thank you for all the updates.

    Good morning everyone, keep calling and faxing today.

    Have a safe and happy Thursday.
    God Bless

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at February 22, 2007 12:50 PM

    Morning everyone. Just to set everyone at a little bit of ease regarding Shiraz & colt. I've had one of my no-sleep nights, so was watching the Shiraz cam at about 4:30 EST & things looked a little touchy, she was pinning her ears and pushing him away, but at about 5:30 I checked and he was nursing--or at least, he had his head in the right place! She was standing very still, so it appeared that things were quieting down. I'm relatively sure she won't win mother of the year awards, but he is getting some opportunities to nurse. Perhaps MaryL can give us an update later today.

    Posted by: Marsh in TN at February 22, 2007 12:53 PM

    Good Morning All

    Thanks Marsh - Iam concerned about Shiraz and especially the baby as well.

    Posted by: Jeri at February 22, 2007 12:58 PM

    Good Morning my sweet B...I love you and miss you so much!

    Good Morning all FOB's - I cannot watch Rosie from work so you guys will have to keep updates coming.

    I completed a video Tribute to Dr. R & NBC last night. Please watch it and I hope you enjoy it.

    Click on my name & it will take you to it or here is the address:

    Have a great day everyone....

    Posted by: Debbie Singer at February 22, 2007 12:59 PM

    Thanks, Marsh. When I looked about 20 minutes ago, things seemed much as they were when I went to bed last night - colt lying by himself in a corner and Shiraz totally ignoring him. I checked back about five minutes later, and the connection was gone. Don't know if they turned the camera off or what. I'm glad to hear the colt seemed to be nursing earlier.

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 12:59 PM

    Harriette:

    BRILLIANT, as usual. I love these bits of wisdom you post for us.

    Posted by: Donna in caNADA at February 22, 2007 1:00 PM

    Penn National should be shut down. It is a disgrace. Every week, the "trainers" dump their non-profitable horses at the New Holland Sales Stables in Lancaster County where many, if not all, are sold either to the Amish to be used as buggy horses and for slaughter. It is probably the worse race track in the USA.

    Posted by: Jane White at February 22, 2007 1:01 PM


    I am posting this from the forum,from Grandma Bea,
    I hope we can meet this challenge and raise this money ! I am sending $100 and urge all who can to contribute as well.


    Hello everyone. Hope this sparks your interest. BARBARO TAUGHT ME TO BELIEVE IN MIRACLES. Believe in Barbaro......his work continues.

    We currently have $1,429.00 once the plaque is paid for (I even got the trophy store owner to contribute - ALL THE LETTERING IS FREE, HE WILL NOT CHARGE US OVER THE 100 FREE CHARACTERS - I used my charm and he agreed LOL)

    Barbaro's $3,000.00 Miracle goes like this. Someone who wants to remain anonymous for now will donate $2,000.00 to our cause for the Laminitis Fund ONLY and ONLY this person says, IF WE RAISE $3,000.00 total. Then they would donate $2,000.00 so we can present NBC with a check for a grand total of: $5,000.00.

    I have been told that if we accommplish this and raise the $3,000.00, and this person's bluff is called and they have to hold true to their part of the bargain, and only then can I reveal who the person is donating the $2,000.00.

    We need to get $1,571.00 by March 17th, scary, I just looked at the calendar and that is 3 weeks from saturday. do you think we can do it. We raised and donated $3,812.00 to the Barbaro fund in honor of Dr. Richardson's birthday. Do you think we can get $812.00 less than that, $3,000.00 by March 17th.

    I made a promise I would not say more than this, other than the bank account number that is holding the funds for this donation - I call it Barbaro's account contains the numbers: 29 and a 1. 1 29, is this a coincidence.

    The life of the dead is etched in the memory of the living...
    Grandma Bea


    Posted by: Harriette Brillianthawk at February 22, 2007 1:08 PM

    Good morning Sunshine...Barbaro

    Another comfortable night..another comfortable day...You deserve the very best..we miss you...and thankful for every minute on earth with us...now your spirit and fight lives on among all of us...

    Please remember to call, fax, and email. We are speaking for the voices that cannot speak for themselves. And continuing Barbaro's legacy in many ways...Mrs. Jackson has asked us to move forward and do it for BARBARO.

    Remember all the Fallen Angels, the ones suffering, all of the requests, spoken and unspoken. Also, your neighbor...love and be kind and give a helping hand...

    Take care of all animals...large or small.

    We are so thankful for everyone that has been brought together in the House that Barbaro Built...and with his family bonded, no one will tear down...

    Thank you, Alex and Mr. Tim.

    Have a wonderful, productive, day.

    ####

    Rosie...I think you know when that bundle of joy will be here...you are not telling us...

    Also, my cupboards were not emptied last night...Reckon Barbaro and the gang are getting in shape for the upcoming races...

    Posted by: JOAN ROYA at February 22, 2007 1:18 PM

    Good morning Barbaro Nation and our leader, Alex-

    Oh my gosh, Harriette, your post by Kim McElroy put into words why I watch racing--"sent to this earth to remind us of the Divine". I never spoke it out loud and now I see someone else shares that feeling. Always thought I was crazy--those special moments of watching a horse perform extraordinary feats. Like God is giving us a glimpse of heavan. Felt it and thought it but never expressed in words. Thanks.

    Alex, see why we love this sight so much--we don't feel alone. From the journey with Barbaro to now addressing issues to give back to the horse we all love. Thank you God, for Alex and the goodness of Tim to share his sight for all of us. Love from Texas

    Posted by: Linda at February 22, 2007 1:18 PM

    It looked like the colt just nursed. Hard to tell though

    Posted by: Ashley at February 22, 2007 1:19 PM

    Hi to all wonderful FOBs and Alex,

    Just want you to know I'm here, lurking and praying for you.

    Received "America's Horse" yesterday. I would encourage any one to read it. It is just a super read and informative...not to mention it makes me feel close to Barbaro. The suggested age does not mention my age, but I'm proud to be a kid at heart.

    I saw the beautiful red cardinal yesterday as I did after Barbaro crossed Rainbow Bridge. I would not have known it was the cardinal but it caught the sunlight for a brief moment, and I was watching. How wonderful! I take that to mean all is well in Bobby's world under God's TLC.

    Remembering Bobby.

    Sally in Louisiana

    Posted by: Sally Lawrence at February 22, 2007 1:20 PM

    Good morning all.
    Just thought I would pop in and say hi, I was checking on Rosie...sure she had had he foal while I took a nap.As of 5:30AM...nothing, so I thought I would take a nap till I had to get the kids up and off to school.
    NOTHING... I'm starting to suspect she may not be pregnant after all, she is just pulling of a well masterminded prank to get some face time, of course, that would make more sense if we got to see her FACE...LOL
    Goodnight all...I think I seriously need some sleep
    Have a wonderful day everyone. Will check back in later.
    ### Harriette, Beautiful as always. You are a true representative of the heritage. I wish I could be more like you, more in touch with side of me I have been kept from. You know what I mean.
    Love to all,
    Now off to dream land.

    Verna

    Posted by: Verna1 at February 22, 2007 1:27 PM

    Grandma B-
    Please email me today re: fund raiser for L fund. I am at school right now and need to be very brief.
    Did you get your Barbaro magnet yet?
    I hope so.
    Talk to you soon.
    Therese: tyedyed14@yahoo.com

    Posted by: Therese at February 22, 2007 1:44 PM

    Grandma B-
    Please email me today re: fund raiser for L fund. I am at school right now and need to be very brief.
    Did you get your Barbaro magnet yet?
    I hope so.
    Talk to you soon.
    Therese: tyedyed14@yahoo.com

    Posted by: Therese at February 22, 2007 1:44 PM

    Thanks Grandma Bea for the matching Laminitis idea (see above).

    Here's some incentive for everyone No Easy Answers for Laminitis
    Exerpt:"... here's the difficulty: laminitis is a uniquely equine disease. And the specific funding for equine research is terrible."
    "It's impressive they got as far as they did with Barbaro," he added. "They almost made it."

    Posted by: Smitty at February 22, 2007 1:47 PM

    ####
    Harriette
    I couldn't find Grandma Bea's Laminitis Matching fund post on the Forum. Could you please say what section and what is the title of the thread?

    Thx

    Posted by: Smitty at February 22, 2007 1:52 PM

    Good Morning Sweet Barbaro,
    Hiya FOB's
    how is shiraz and the colt doing? last night was a heart breaker :-( hopefully mommy and colt are having a better day.
    rosie is still holding out :-(
    everyone have a great day

    ann

    Posted by: ann(corset17) at February 22, 2007 1:55 PM

    Good morning to all

    FOSTER HOMES

    I have been trying desperately to find foster homes in LA, TX, MS, AR without much luck.

    I have been posting on the forum to no avail, so I thought I'd try the comment board. I really am doing everything I know and I have had no response.

    Please, if you or anyone you know would be interested in doing this very important, necessary part of horse rescue contact me on the forum under the horse rescue folder, you can't miss the thread.

    You will have to be approved, of course.

    Come on guys! There has got to be some Fans of Barbaro who can help me with this.

    Or ANY ideas on how I can get people interested in this or get the word out better, I'm not doing too good here:( YET!

    Thanks,
    cindy a

    Posted by: cindy a at February 22, 2007 1:56 PM

    good morning all

    shiraz is bonding with her precious baby--she is hovering over him--and he was nursing for a while

    rosie is lying down at the moment

    Posted by: linda s nyc at February 22, 2007 2:00 PM

    Good morning, my beloved Angel Boys. I miss you.

    Good morning, FOBs. Good morning, Rosie--the ever-gravid Rosie!

    RIP Allison.

    Another day of temp work and no site access, so have fun and "beee nice everrbuddy" and call fax email!

    Later!

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 22, 2007 2:02 PM

    Would any other FOB's consider going to the Preakness this year together to picket? Many vets consider 3-year-old thoroughbreds too young to race, their bones not hard enough yet to withstand the catastrophic breakdowns that ultimately killed Barbaro.

    We could carry signs saying:
    1) REMEMBER BARBARO!
    2) WAIT TIL THEY'RE OLDER
    3) 3-YEAR-OLDS ARE TOO YOUNG TO RACE
    4) STOP FATAL BREAKDOWNS AT THE TRACK
    5) A 3-YR-OLD'S BONES ARE STILL TOO SOFT
    6) FANS OF BARBARO

    I will make the signs. We would probably get several seconds of pre-race national TV coverage, and maybe some interview time on network TV. This could help bring this issue to the world's attention. Can we do this for Barbaro?

    I'll always remember you, great one. Miss you so!

    Peggy in AZ

    Posted by: Peggy at February 22, 2007 2:05 PM

    Please keep us posted regarding shiraz and the colt as well as Rosie. My company blocked me out from the cam. Last night was a heartbreaker for that poor baby....I would love to hold him and bottle feed him. I'll be checking on and off for updates. Thanks Mel D.

    Posted by: Mel at February 22, 2007 2:06 PM

    I wanted to thank Debbie Singer for her wonderful Tribute to Dr. R and New Bolton Center. I am hoping one of these times when I watch a tribute I will not break down and cry....no luck yet! To witness their tireless hardwork and dedication for a positive outcome cannot be recognized enough! They are truly heros in every sense of the word....not just for Barbaro but for all who pass through the doors at New Bolton. Thank you so much for sharing this with all of us who still find tears in their eyes at any given moment thinking about Barbaro and trying in some small way to carry on to honor his legacy....

    Posted by: Nancy at February 22, 2007 2:06 PM

    Good morning Barbaro, FOBs and Alex.

    Harriette, What a lovely posting. Thank you for sharing.

    GrandmaBea - Thanks for your work on the laminitis fund donation. The matching sounds wonderful. I am sure the FOBs can accomplish this. We had such a wonderful inspiration. Please e-mail me with the information I need at mholomy@hotmail.com so I can make a donation. Thank you.

    Good day everyone.

    Mary
    Proud to be a Fob, Now and Always

    Posted by: Mary at February 22, 2007 2:07 PM

    Good morning Sweet Barbaro in Heaven!!

    Good morning all, please make the calls to your representatives today... takes less than 5 minutes.
    FOR BARBARO

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 2:10 PM

    Good Morning Everyone:

    There is a very nice, touching article in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette this morning about Barbaro.

    It talks about Barbaro's incredible temperment and attitude and his exemplary behavior while
    being in a stall in intensive care for such an eternity.

    The writer praised Barbaro for accepting the fact that he had to make the adjustment from
    being a strong racehorse who ran like the wind to
    literally being still for eight months.

    He compared Barbaro to Ruffian and the fact that,
    although Ruffian was an amazing animal, he didn't
    possess Barbaro's will to live, fight and survive.

    The writer also exposed laminitis in the article
    and talked about it's deadly assault on horses.

    If I can find a way to send a link or post the
    article to all of you, I will.

    My heart swelled to see that a writer in Pittsburgh (three weeks after Barbaro's death)
    still felt compelled to honor our great boy in a
    touching, beautiful article. Obviously, Barbaro
    is still in his heart and on his mind.

    Clearly, Barbaro will NEVER be forgotten.

    Susan

    Posted by: Susan at February 22, 2007 2:11 PM

    ######

    Mel, the colt is nursing well and up and almost running around sometimes! He is a cutie!

    Barbaro our angel, we miss and love you so much. There will never be another like you...

    Posted by: Sue H at February 22, 2007 2:15 PM

    Barbaro The Angel Of Love. The Rainbow.

    Posted by: Dee Mirich at February 22, 2007 2:16 PM

    PLEASE...can some one tell me why the poor Arabian colt is laying down and mommy just stares? Is he okay? The poor sweetie had a hard time last night...bless his soul.
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:16 PM

    Thinking of you Alex with love.

    Posted by: Dee Mirich at February 22, 2007 2:17 PM

    Good Morning all FOB's, Alex, Tim and beloved Barbaro in Equine Heaven.

    I hope Rosie will give birth soon. Prayers that all goes well.

    FOB's are working so hard on the anti-slaughter bill. There's bound to be something positive to come out of all the work. I haven't heard back from my reps yet. Hopefully soon.

    Prayers to all who miss and love Barbaro.

    Posted by: Karen - MI at February 22, 2007 2:18 PM

    Smitty , Therese,and others

    The thread on the forum for Grandma Bea is under Barbaro, called Barbaro's $3000 Miracle. You can find her address in the messages.

    There is a wonderful, beautiful STAR IN THE SKY, who carries the name BARBARO that is FOREVER, shining down on us and will NEVER, EVER go away. We treasure that star. Grandma Bea, Ladee Elizabeth & Remington Barbaro Gobee

    Posted by: Harriette Brillianthawk at February 22, 2007 2:20 PM

    FOB's this is a very sad story!

    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=5056085

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 2:20 PM

    Hi, Jenny
    I think things are improving for Shiraz and the colt (at least that's what some folks here have said). He's lying down now, but a little while ago, I saw him up and bouncing around - so cute!! And I'm pretty sure I saw him nursing, too. I wonder (since I'm *totally* new at this!) if she isn't guarding him while he sleeps. I'm sure knowledgeable folks will confirm or correct that.

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 2:21 PM

    hi Laurie

    I was also thinking that she was watching over him as he slept. He was up and frisky before-so I don't think anything is wrong. I am glad that she is tuned into him now!

    Linda

    Posted by: linda s nyc at February 22, 2007 2:24 PM

    Laurie- I was just thinking it looks like she's guarding him or watching over him while he's sleeping. But I don't claim to know ANYTHING about this.

    Posted by: Ashley at February 22, 2007 2:24 PM

    Thankyou Laurie...he is too cute! Last night mmomy did not like the blanket...they really had a tough time since it is her first I guess. Tha Qh is also adorable...nature is such a wonderful gift from God!
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:29 PM

    ###
    To all Minnesota FOB's ... Has anyone every heard of a dog and cat santuary called "Home for Life" located in Minnesota? We are considering sending my recently-deceased brother's fur kids there. Their website is homeforlife.org. Please let me know if anyone has heard of it.

    Barbaro ... What a Beautiful Difference One Life Has Made!

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 2:29 PM

    Morning Fobs! Morning Angel Barbaro!

    #I see Rosie is still holding on!

    #I'm still concerned about Shiraz and colt. I'm watching the cam now, and she won't stand still for him to nurse and seems to be nipping at him to go away. Oh dear.

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 2:30 PM

    It breaks my heart..mammy arabian seems to push her baby away? Am I wrong? The poor fella....:(
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:30 PM

    Sigh...the little guy is up, and it looks like mom is pushing him away again. Oh, this is so sad...

    Have you seen this one? http://www.marestare.com/belcher.htm

    OMG...it's so sad to watch these two side by side...

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 2:31 PM

    OK ... help has arrived to hold down Shiraz!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 2:31 PM

    Thank you Nancy - I cried making the video, my first ever, but I felt compelled to do it. I still cry off & on when I read about our sweet boy or just think about him. I don't think I will ever stop crying completely. He was so special. I am sure we are not alone. When you have something as special as Barbaro was you feel the loss forever...it just doesn't come along all that often.

    Talk to you all later - got to try & work - busy day!

    Posted by: Debbie Singer at February 22, 2007 2:33 PM

    Good Morning All

    No access here at work to Rosie or Shiraz/Baby Cams so appreciate the updates so ver much.

    Worried about Shiraz baby also but seems some have seen him nursing - hope she is just guarding him when he is lying down.

    Thank you again everyone

    Posted by: jeri at February 22, 2007 2:34 PM

    baby seems to be successfully nursing--sooo sweet!

    Posted by: linda s nyc at February 22, 2007 2:34 PM

    when you see both cases side by side they are totally different. It could be, maybe I am wrong..one is a fristtimer. But now Shiraz looks a little more "understanding" with the humans there...
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:35 PM

    Shiraz colt is nursing now with a little human help.

    Posted by: Ashley at February 22, 2007 2:35 PM

    #I think the little guy has trouble finding the right spot, too!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 2:36 PM

    And then you look at ur dear Rosie and she is just hanging loose and eating away with no worries...could she be from the "tropics"..."no worries mon"...LOL
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:36 PM

    Morning True FOB's.....

    Hope your all having a nice day or night depending on where on this Earth you are. It is all about Barbaro... He is the CHAMP!!!!

    I am beginning to wonder if Rosie is just a hog like Barbaro and eats everything that isn't nailed down hahahahahahahahahah ROSIE have the KID Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese......

    ((((((((( Barbaro ))))))))))))))

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 2:38 PM

    ####Nina,
    can you email me hgill@qx.net
    Thanks

    Posted by: Harriette Brillianthawk at February 22, 2007 2:40 PM

    # Ok, Shiraz is beginning to freak me out ...

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 2:41 PM

    #### Peggy in AZ--please remember WHOSE website you are posting on. . .
    I think a POSITIVE presence at the Preakness would be an information booth to support laminitis research or rally support for the horse slaughter legislation.

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at February 22, 2007 2:42 PM

    ##### Ruth......
    shoot me an email at daydaysrose@hotmail.com I have something for you..... ;-)

    (((((( Rosie )))))))))))))))))))))))

    #### Peggy I am going to take your post to the media over here.... I know some of the workers and I think this should be on the news... ;-) Good JOB!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 2:42 PM

    Sarah:
    Shiraz just doesn't seem to like the little one? I am ignorant to what really happens here..but the little guy is HUNGRY!!!! I want to go feed him...
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:43 PM

    She really seems agitated with the colt unless there are humans with her, doesn't she? I'm not sure I can keep watching this...

    And there's Rosie, head in the feed bucket, the perennial "lady in waiting". LOL!

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 2:44 PM

    # This is really breaking my heart.

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 2:45 PM

    Sarah:
    What breaks my heart is that compared to the other colt (QH) he seems so wobbly...so weak...
    He needs food...come on Shiraz...get to it.
    Rosie sweetie anytime would be a good time..let sgo girl...
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:48 PM

    Sometimes with my mare she gets like that when she has her babies. As she gets use to them she gets very PROTECTIVE!!! I am sure that they are watching over them very closely and if needed they take over. My mare lets her babies feed as long as she is getting fed!!

    Posted by: Marla at February 22, 2007 2:48 PM

    Thankyou Maria for the inside...I just want the poor fella to have a full belly....
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:51 PM

    Do we know if Rosie has any waxing?

    Posted by: Marla at February 22, 2007 2:51 PM

    What is Shiraz's website. That's not the Q horse mare is it?

    Posted by: cindy a at February 22, 2007 2:52 PM

    Looks like Shiraz tried to charge the wall ??? Why is she doing that? Will she accept that baby?

    Posted by: Margie Clayton at February 22, 2007 2:53 PM

    Shiraz seems to be a high spirited horse..she scares me with the baby there...
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:54 PM

    REpost: Grandma Bea's address follows

    Hello everyone. Hope this sparks your interest. BARBARO TAUGHT ME TO BELIEVE IN MIRACLES. Believe in Barbaro......his work continues.

    We currently have $1,429.00 once the plaque is paid for (I even got the trophy store owner to contribute - ALL THE LETTERING IS FREE, HE WILL NOT CHARGE US OVER THE 100 FREE CHARACTERS - I used my charm and he agreed LOL)

    Barbaro's $3,000.00 Miracle goes like this. Someone who wants to remain anonymous for now will donate $2,000.00 to our cause for the Laminitis Fund ONLY and ONLY this person says, IF WE RAISE $3,000.00 total. Then they would donate $2,000.00 so we can present NBC with a check for a grand total of: $5,000.00.

    I have been told that if we accommplish this and raise the $3,000.00, and this person's bluff is called and they have to hold true to their part of the bargin, and only then can I reveal who the person is donating the $2,000.00.

    We need to get $1,571.00 by March 17th, scary, I just looked at the calendar and that is 3 weeks from saturday. do you think we can do it. We raised and donated $3,812.00 to the Barbaro fund in honor of Dr. Richardson's birthday. Do you think we can get $812.00 less than that, $3,000.00 by March 17th.

    I made a promise I would not say more than this, other than the bank account number that is holding the funds for this donation - I call it Barbaro's account contains the numbers: 29 and a 1. 1 29, is this a coincidence.

    The life of the dead is etched in the memory of the living...

    There is a wonderful, beautiful STAR IN THE SKY, who carries the name BARBARO that is FOREVER, shining down on us and will NEVER, EVER go away. We treasure that star. Grandma Bea, Ladee Elizabeth & Remington Barbaro Gobee

    BEA GOBEE 373 Saw Creek Estates Bushkill, PA 18324
    Please put "laminitis fund in memory of Barbaro" in memo section

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 2:54 PM

    Which cam shows Shiraz? I would love to see it.

    I'm at work today and can't watch until I get home. I've been checking on Rosie every chance I get - beginning to think she's never going to give up that foal.

    A couple days ago someone gave directions on how to find pictures of Barbaro's full brother and I can't find them. Could you please repost? Thanks.

    Will be checking in again later.

    To think - all these friendships are because of our beloved Barbaro. I still miss him so much.

    Posted by: Dale in Aiken SC at February 22, 2007 2:54 PM

    I cannot watch Shiraz anymore... It is breaking my heart... At what point will there be human intervention???

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 2:54 PM

    cindy Shiraz is on ELEMENTS ARABIAN CAM #2 from the marestare.com site.

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:55 PM

    Debbie Singer - What a beautiful, touching tribute to the people at NBC. Thank you!

    ##
    Janice, Skyler, Robyn - Thank you for the welcome back. It feels good to be here again. Just not right to start my day without a post!

    For anyone who follows racing - Michael Matz has 3 runners today at Gulfstream: Correntina in the 5th, Putonyerdancinshuz in the 7th (against English Channel!), and the Jacksons' Electric Mountain in the 9th. Safe trip to them all and all other racers today and everyday.

    Marg
    Proud Fan of Barbaro forever

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at February 22, 2007 2:55 PM

    And Blanche is doing her fluffing of Rosie's straw!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 2:55 PM

    Something seems to be upseting her outside of her stall. My mare is pastured after her babies so I guess that is why she gets very protective. Just to ease your mind when they are newly born they are very wobbly in the legs but mine usually by 2 days are very sturdy!!

    Posted by: Marla at February 22, 2007 2:55 PM

    Thanks, Marla. This is all totally new to me, so I don't have any frame of reference on what's "normal". It just looks like that colt is awfully wobbly and weak and Mom isn't being particularly helpful to it. And I'm looking at this quarter horse and her baby, and they're just so calm and bonded. And that baby was born several hours after the arabian and seems so much stronger. But, again, I don't know what the range of "normal" is, so it looks alarming to me - and I totally appreciate any clarification!

    And Rosie and the chicken continue eating...

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 2:56 PM

    Shiraz cam...

    http://www.marestare.com/windsongtwo.htm

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 2:56 PM

    Ro....and look at the baby "play"...
    He is just too coute.
    The humans went in about 20 mins ago...
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:57 PM

    ########
    Ro
    Just a thought - why don't you call the phone number on the screen and talk to someone there?
    I won't watch either.
    Janice
    A forever fan of Barbaro

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at February 22, 2007 2:58 PM

    HOORAY!!!! she stayed put for him...

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 2:58 PM

    Ok there he goes!!!

    Posted by: Marla at February 22, 2007 2:58 PM

    # OK this is totally unkewl, she almost kicked him

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 3:00 PM

    Ruth Stacey

    YES!!! THIS IS AN EXCELLENT CHOICE!!!!

    Home for Life is fantastic.. Have you visited the website. I get their newsletter and have spoken with them when the do thier annual fundraising event at Mall of America. This is an amazing place an is WELL SUPPORTED by local BIG business and many high end fundraisers.

    THey take in animals who have no place left to go...often times the type of situation that you have. They have large open spaces for outdoor play time and lots and lots of volunteers.

    I cant say enough good about this place RUTH!!! PLease take my word for it. I will personally volunteer to help you with any transport or transition you need. My home email twelvepaws@earthlink.net if you need me. I guarantee you will not be sorry that you chose this place and as a fellow FOB, I Will check on them when you need me to. This place is located on the outskirts of the TWIN CITIES. They are also in the process of obtaining addtional land and funding to create a HORSE RESCUE AREA!!!!

    I hope that this helps you and puts your mind at ease.... IN fact, I mentioned this place to Daryl Smoliak a while back as a possible benefactor of one of his golf tourneys. He liked the idea because he too lives close by to this area of Stillwater MN and the St Croix River Valley.

    PLease let us MN FOB's know how we may help you!!!!

    Leslie IN MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at February 22, 2007 3:00 PM

    I don't think we have to worry about Shiraz's foal. This is a highly regarded breeding operation, with a reputation for lots of hand's on attention to their animals. You can see that in how gentle and kind they are when they go in the stall with Shiraz, and how responsive she is to their attention. Shiraz is probably still scared to death of this wobbly thing. This isn't that uncommon for first time mothers. But they won't let anything happen to the baby, this is a very high dollar foal, so they not only have an emotional investment, but a financial incentive as well to make sure all goes well. I mean that not in the cynical sense, but from a common-sense reassurance.

    Posted by: Marsh in TN at February 22, 2007 3:01 PM

    ####
    Peggy and Nina Please read Dawn
    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at February 22, 2007 2:42 PM

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 3:02 PM

    I asked Grandma Bea before I posted her addy here, so don't noone go and get all huffy-puffy about it, please. She instructed me to copy/paste post exactly like it was originally so all here can read and share it, and have avail to address. There are still those (MJ & others)who told us last night cannot get into forum.

    Thanks to all of you kind GENEROUS folks who read and DONATE. Thanks again you are mighty nice! (subliminal enough?)

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 3:03 PM

    I'm really worried - I just saw the little colt go to nurse and Shiraz KICKED him :(

    Posted by: Barbara A. at February 22, 2007 3:04 PM

    ###
    Just understand that Shiraz is a maiden mare, first foal and she had a real difficult birth and is more sore than a normal mare would be.

    her owners are working with her and the foal and I have seen big steps since last night. IT will take a bit of time and for the mare to come down from the pain of the birth. but she is doing well and not rejecting the foal. Nursing is a painful ordeal for a new mare...

    I see nothing to be alarmed about..

    Rosie is feeding her face again!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 3:04 PM

    What is her problem???

    I'm no expert but I've watched a few moms with foals and I've never seen one like her!

    I'm afraid she's going to hurt him. She could have already hurt him if she wanted I guess.

    He looks so confused, poor baby.

    I wonder if this is her first foal?

    Posted by: cindy a at February 22, 2007 3:05 PM

    My mare was very scared of her first but as time went on she was fine. I had a feeling this was her first! She will not really hurt him and if you notice with time she is trying to bond with him. It is really scary just like it is with our first!!

    Posted by: Marla at February 22, 2007 3:05 PM

    I have noticed how they love on Shiraz and the colt when they are in there - and it seems like she is much more calm and receptive to the colt when there are humans present. I'm glad to see how much she trusts them. Seems like the colt does too - I noticed he tried to follow the woman out of the stall a little while ago.

    We're just a bunch of sentimental mushhearts here, ya know? Thanks, Marsh!

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 3:05 PM

    I'm really worried - I just saw the little colt go to nurse and Shiraz KICKED him :(

    Posted by: Barbara A. at February 22, 2007 3:06 PM

    Good morning FOBs.....
    Remember we need to keep calling our Senators/Reps who have yet to commit to HR 503 or S311. If they have committed/co-signed, then just thank them and ask for support in getting their colleauges to get on board as well. And of course the committee leaders need to be called to urge this to be brought to floor for a vote. This will be law, but we can't get complacent....
    Marlene

    Posted by: Marlene at February 22, 2007 3:08 PM

    Thanks Mary L. I'm glad you turned up to help us understand this!! It's kinda scary behavior. I'm sure they must be watching her close.

    Posted by: cindy a at February 22, 2007 3:09 PM

    OMgosh! She started to let him nurse there for a moment! Awww...now the woman is in there, and she's really lovin' on Shiraz while the baby nurses. Happy tears!

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 3:09 PM

    Thanks Mary L. I turned the cam off because I was having vocal reactions and I do need to be poised at work.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 3:10 PM

    A bright and happy good morning to all of us F.O.B.s For sure the mare Shiraz is very uncomfortable with a full bag and when the colt nuzzles, ouch! No doubt they are in good hands on the farm so I guess we don't have to worry.
    Arlene

    Posted by: arlene at February 22, 2007 3:12 PM

    ###

    Shiraz owner is a well known and experienced Arab breeder. They are watching the mare and foal also on monitor and with them every hour or more. They are working hard with her.

    The Vet will be there today too to check on her and the foal.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 3:13 PM

    Shiraz IS alot better when she has a human in there, I think it gives her confidence. Now I kinda feel sorry for Shiraz, it looks like she's not sure what to do with him.

    He is nursing and it does look like it may be uncomfortable for her. I guess she's got to learn too.

    Posted by: cindy a at February 22, 2007 3:14 PM

    Thank goodness I have you guys to keep me updated. I wish I could view the cam at work ,but then I would not get anything done...

    Mel D.

    Posted by: Mel at February 22, 2007 3:16 PM

    ###

    Welcome. she just had a really rough time with this foal. she is REALLY sore also.. You can see how much she calms down when Stephanie (her owner) goes in with her. She will work with her.. I bet she is tired!!

    I have seen Maiden Mares be worse than this one has..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 3:16 PM

    Morning (psychic) skritches to the BBH and all of the gang in Equine Heaven...doubtless it was AFN...

    ####
    Marlene
    Yup!

    ###
    FsOB
    It's like the line "I'm not a doctor, but I played one on TV..."
    Try to relax a little re Shiraz...there are actual people there who know what they're doing...
    [as a matter of fact, if you look now, you'll see that someone is hanging with her and the babe...]

    Don't see anything from Shelley A and Debra, WI, so am reposting from yesterday...The best thing we can do to honor Barbaro -- and Rosie and her
    watched pot foal -- is to call our reps. Or, if you've already done so, spread the word so that others are tallied as well.

    REPOST

    The aides have a TREMENDOUS amount of influence on the decisions of your reps. They need to be our friends!! Just make sure you try to get the name of the aide that is handling this particular bill (House HR503 and Senate S311). Be polite and courteous when stating your request.

    Just cause they're on recess, we are NOT. We got tons done last year when they were on
    Recess, which was almost always towards the end.!!
    The number of co-sponsors has not changed as of today but we can expect some activity by next week. We can make the difference!
    Links to co-sponsors and committees will follow shortly.
    Have a great day!!!
    Shelley and Debra
    Posted by: ShelleyA at February 20, 2007 1:44 PM

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at February 22, 2007 3:17 PM

    Re: Shiraz and what Mary L said about being sore from the birth: she'd be sore just from a normal presentation. This huge little guy had to be pushed back in and turned...OUCH.
    but she'll come around.

    A little trivia: you can't turn breech elephant calves. The opening of the vagina is 7 (seven) feet from the cervix...no way to turn them, if they're coming breech. And breech in an elephant is head first. You want the calf to present butt first to get a lot of momentum going in order to drag that huge skull through the opening...it's very tricky with elephants: one of the reasons our captive population is so at risk...

    Have a wonderful day all you members of The Barbaro Nation: Hope the chickens have inspiring words for Rosie...maybe they are really Lamaze coaches.....

    Posted by: jonna at February 22, 2007 3:19 PM

    ### I just want to express my heartfelt thanks to all the beautiful messages left with the candles lit for my Koda. She is an angel now and she is with all the other FOB furkids that have gone to heaven. I know that they will all find each other. Jen

    Posted by: jen at February 22, 2007 3:20 PM

    Good Morning, maternity wing buddies. Is Shiraz located in Delaware County, PA by any chance??

    Posted by: Margie at February 22, 2007 3:20 PM

    Mary L - thanks for the clarifying info. I feel a little bit better. Sorry for the double post, folks, I have been having computer trouble and didn't realize the first post posted.

    Posted by: Barbara A. at February 22, 2007 3:21 PM

    #### Debbie.. I just shot that off to get the IP..

    #### Alex.... go fetch your emails, interesting LOL........

    ((((( Barbaro )))))))))))))

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 3:22 PM

    Nina, we seem to be in the minority here, but thanks for your support!

    Dawn and Debbie, I think picketing at the Preakness WOULD be a positive presence if it can petition the racing industry to delay racing thoroughbreds by just a couple of years until their bones are stronger. A laminitis booth would be a good idea, as well; though laminitis was the SECONDARY reason for Barbaro's death, it set in BECAUSE of his injury and repair.

    I am eternally grateful to Alex for his site during Barbaro's long ordeal and would not intentionally do anything to hurt him or his livelihood. But, he would be exercising 4 and 5-year-olds instead of 2 and 3-year-olds in the course of their training for the track, if the Racing Industry would agree to hold off racing 3-year-olds for a couple of years until it is safer for them. Try to understand that--for Barbaro!

    Peggy in AZ

    Posted by: Peggy at February 22, 2007 3:22 PM

    I believe the 303 area code is Denver

    Posted by: Marsh in TN at February 22, 2007 3:22 PM

    Thanks Mary L and all. I'll try to stop worrying and get some chores done now. Maybe boil some water just to see if it'll move Rosie along. I swear every day I see her, she is BIGGER! She looks twice as big this morning and she did yesterday! LOL!

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 3:23 PM

    303 is Denver

    Posted by: Kathy in Colorado at February 22, 2007 3:25 PM

    ##

    Maybe need to take Rosie on a bumpy ride! she sure is taking her good ole time!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 3:25 PM

    #####
    Leslie in Mn.

    Is Home for Life a no kill sanctuary? It sounds like it has some similarities to Best Friends. I'm off the check out their website.

    Posted by: DJoAnn at February 22, 2007 3:26 PM

    Jen - I hope you are OK. We are with you.

    Thanks Alex. I am gingerly gearing up for the Derby, Preakness, and Belmont. Stories and info help.

    Posted by: Margie at February 22, 2007 3:27 PM

    ####
    Leslie in Mn.
    If Ruth decides to send the furkids to Minnesota and help of any kind is needed, let me know! I'll do anything to help!
    Daryl
    shanamrdiv@yahoo.com

    Posted by: Daryl Smoliak at February 22, 2007 3:28 PM

    Okay, I gotta ask...I'm watching Shiraz and the mare from Belcher Quarter Horses. Both colts are lying down, and both mares are standing at right angles to the colts, behind their back feet. Coincidence or standard horse protocol? LOL!

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 3:33 PM

    ####
    Peggy, AZ/Nina

    TWR, our host, trains racehorses, Alex is a freelance exercise rider of racehorses, and making plans to picket a major horse race on a race horse trainer's website strains the limits of etiquette uncomfortably...

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at February 22, 2007 3:34 PM

    Posted by: Jennie (Kentucky) at February 22, 2007 3:36 PM

    I don't think Alex would condone talk of Picketing a race track on this site.. I am sure he will chime in but I would feel uncomfortable doing that..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 3:37 PM

    Thanks Daryl!!!

    DJoAnn...YES It is absolutley no kill...it is not a shelter...it is a Santuary. As the name implies, once an animal is sent there, they are HOME FOR LIFE! They will live out the rest of their years having this place as thier HOME...No shifting to foster care or being in the Shelter "system" .

    I hope you enjoy the website. Its a great place.

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at February 22, 2007 3:38 PM

    ###

    That is good the mares are standing over/near the foals. being protective and bonding!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 3:38 PM

    Just popping in to say thank you to all for updates AND Mary L - so glad you are here this morning.

    Posted by: jeri at February 22, 2007 3:41 PM


    GOODMORNING FsOB....I too am wiped waiting for Ms. ROSIE to do her thang....WITH NO END IN SITE...EXCEPT ROSIE'S and it's getting TOO BIG !!!! LOL

    Can't watch Shiraz with the colt any longer either as a mother who also had a very hard delivery 72hrs...I find her behaviour too heartbreaking !!!

    LOVE TO ALL MY FAVOURITE PEOPLE...I'm still on ROSIE WATCH....FOREVER and EVER I THINK !!!!!

    DON'T FORGET TO MAKE YOUR CALLS TO YOUR CONGRESSMEN and SENATORS....OUR SWEET BOY STILL NEEDS US...DON'T LET HIM DOWN !!!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at February 22, 2007 3:41 PM

    ##### Friar Tuck

    I was confused at first but after reading your post several times I figured it out....Got ya.... OK... ;-) No problem... Me is cool :-)

    I think there are two things going on here and I am gone for the day cause I am following the advise of Alex...... ;-)

    Cheers ((((((( Barbaro ))))))))

    Cya all later or tomorrow.. Have a nice day...............

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 3:42 PM

    I just thought it was interesting that both mares are in the exact same position with relation to the colts. Do they always stand with their noses pointing at the colts' hind legs? I know this is crazy, LOL!

    I love the little quarter horse colt! He's snoozing in the exact same position as my dog right now, long legs and neck all stretched out. If not for the blanket, they'd look like twins.

    Shiraz just laid down, too, and took a look back at her hindquarters as if to say, "What the heck went on back there?" Poor thing, so sore and tired...

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 3:45 PM

    Alex-our kindly host and webmaster-asked us NOT TO disparage horseracing, did he not? Were we not informed that training and readying horses for racing is what keeps this site open?

    Please do not let our open boards/forums be taken from us because of a few judgemental folks who need to stop this anti-racing campaigning on a RACING SITE.

    If you want to discuss anti-racing strategies-do it OFF TWR. Contact each other privately. I am certain that this is what Alex would "advise" you to do, before he bans you.

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 3:46 PM

    #### Friar Tuck and Mary L--Thanks! Couldn't have said it better myself. . .

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at February 22, 2007 3:49 PM

    poor shiraz--she looks pooped--she and the baby are both lying down--close to each other

    Posted by: linda s nyc at February 22, 2007 3:53 PM

    good morning Barbaro. Miss you more then I can express. Love always everyone have a safe day!

    Posted by: Bonni Nicholson at February 22, 2007 3:53 PM

    Morning FOB's - Morning Angel Barbaro

    ####
    Mary L - Thanks for the alerts yesterday - I witnessed 2 births. Your updates kept me at ease, but I don't think I can watch Rosie go through it. I see mommy Shiraz is laying next to her baby - I'm sure she'll be a great mom.....after yesterday I bet she's very sore and exhausted.Mommy Apricot was so precious and in love with her baby.

    I'm hoping you'll keep us posted play by play on Rosie. Instead of Mary L Ohio - you should be Mary Maternity!!!

    Have a great day everyone.

    Posted by: Donna & Cookie- Alberta, Canada at February 22, 2007 3:53 PM

    ###

    For those that can not see Shiraz and foal, here is a cute snapshot of them:

    Shiraz and foal

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 3:55 PM

    ####Jennie in KY -
    The picture on that link you posted was priceless. Thank you.

    laura

    Posted by: Laura in OH at February 22, 2007 3:56 PM

    Alex, thanks for your morning report, must be a bit stressful working in this kind of up/down weather. I hope Gator Nation has has a safe race.

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy (Ontario, CAN) at February 22, 2007 3:57 PM

    # Totally agree that it's inappropriate to make plans for picketing a horse race on this website.

    Also, in my opinion, picketing at the Preakness could be conceived as a slap in the faces of the Jacksons. I think the idea is in poor form.

    Campaigning for such changes is better conducted through research and presentation of CREDIBLE evidence in written word to the powers that be. Picketing with billboard slogans doesn't convince anyone.

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 3:57 PM

    DORA J.

    How are you? ok I hope.

    Do you still have JO UK's email? I have been missing her and was wondering if she is ok.

    I started a thread in the forum with that title, if you'd rather post to me there.

    cindy a

    Posted by: cindy a at February 22, 2007 3:58 PM

    ####

    Ruth Stacey & Leslie in MN,

    I'm about 3 hours from the Cities but if there is something that I can do to help, please let me know. Remember, I love to drive!! And, I love animals...

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at February 22, 2007 3:59 PM

    Both, Shiraz and baby are pooped.... no wonder the poor Mommy and it isn't easy being born either.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 4:01 PM

    Good Morning Barbaro Nation,
    I finally got my computer problems fixed. Pheeeeeeeeeeew. It is so good to be with all of you again! I felt like I was in another world not being able to talk to you.

    Poor Rosie, she is huge. I hope she gives birth soon for her sake.

    Shiraz, is beautiful..makes me nervous a bit and the foul is so sweet.

    Good Morning Alex.

    Barbaro,
    You are in my thoughts and heart always.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 4:02 PM

    ## Shiraz is pooped...in the meantime, Rosie's head is still in feed bucket.

    Rosie: "What, me worry?" lol

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 4:02 PM

    ####
    Thanks Alex...after hearing about all that riding you did this morning...i am worned out...ha....have a nice day...

    Posted by: JOAN ROYA at February 22, 2007 4:02 PM

    #####

    Good Thursday Morning Handsome Sweetheart:) I betcha you've got better weather at Heaven's Gate Farm than I do here in "not-sunny" CA! It is quite stormy right now...oh my, wind, rain...but we do need the rain....

    Hope you are having a great day today, of course you are, it's Heaven's Gate Farm!!!! Keep all your new 'frens' in line, enjoy all the company you have now, and allllllll the running and playing....I'll check in later tonight after Auntie Laurie visits you......I love you, Bobby Jackson!!! We ALL do:)

    Lynne-Your Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 22, 2007 4:03 PM

    ##Hi Renee, glad you're back.

    ##Hi Joan Roya, the raiders were back, hungrier than ever.

    Have a good day everyone,

    (((Barbaro)))

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy (Ontario, CAN) at February 22, 2007 4:06 PM

    IMO picketing at the Preakness wouldn't be good - didn't they just say they were going to be renaming the Sir Barton stakes the Barbaro stakes - that in itself should bring these issues to the forefront - laminitis, etc. To picket Barbaro's race would not be good. Maybe there would be a way to tie the issue of waiting for them to be older to race and all the other issues to Barbaro away from the track where picketing would not be needed.

    Posted by: Kathy in Colorado at February 22, 2007 4:08 PM

    Cindy A.- Hey gal! I do still have Jo's addy. I meant to write you, but guess I thought I had. It is heck gettin old and senile!

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 4:10 PM

    is that really you, Renee Antaya? Welcome,welcome bienvenue (LOL-sp) Glad you are back and unscathed!
    (just a lil dum nod to movie Cabaret)

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 4:13 PM

    ##

    Jen, I don't believe I said this yesterday but I am so sorry about Koda. Many FOB furkids are playing with her right now Jen. And, you have us here to help.

    I don't have the cam here at work. So, thank you to all for your "play by play" of the little ones we're watching, as well as our big Rosie girl. It helps tremendously for those of us not able to view.

    Mary, by providing those links and your thoughts, you've given us a gift here, a gift that not many of us have ever seen....the birth of a new life and the ability to watch this blessed event. A mere "thank you" seems not enough Mary, truly....we really appreciate it.

    Off to send more emails while I'm on break to our reps and the leadership of the three key committees.

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 4:14 PM

    ####
    Nina...you have a nice day.

    #####
    CANDLES ARE BARELEY OVER 2,000

    CONGRESS MAY BE ON RECESSED...BUT WE ARE NEVER ON RECESSED...WE WILL WORK 24/7 TO FINISH BARBARO'S TASKS....

    Posted by: JOAN ROYA at February 22, 2007 4:14 PM

    ###
    Judy...just got to love our midnight raiders...Barbaro and the gang...

    Posted by: JOAN ROYA at February 22, 2007 4:15 PM

    Like I suspected - Rosie isn't pregnant at all - she's just showing the results of CHIF - Constant Head in Feedbag - LOL

    Posted by: Kathy in Colorado at February 22, 2007 4:17 PM

    This is what they have on the WEBSITE about Drunken Sailor, Shiraz's colt.

    Drunken Sailor (HAAP Ibn Farrago x El Bey Shiraz)
    February 21, 2007 Bay Sabino Colt
    Sailor is everything that we expected from this cross! He is tall and has an GORGEOUS head! He is a moderately marked bay sabino that we know will be able to sire black, and could possibly be homozygous for black. His dam, Shiraz, is a daughter of our black Sabino mare, Misfer, and by a black Bey Shah son! She stands well over 15 hands and has a VERY pretty head. His sire is an extremely athletic bay sabino endurance horse. Sailor should be a heck of an athlete with tons of FLASH!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 4:18 PM

    Hi everyone!

    Alex - thanks, as always, for the updates from Fair Hill. Wish I could have gotten to Laurel to see Gator Nation...but had to come to work. Don't they know that I need time off to go to the track? Ha!

    Its been so excited with Shiraz and Apricot! Here's hoping Rosie will foal soon too!

    I hope everyone has a great day!

    Posted by: Chrissy at February 22, 2007 4:18 PM

    Thanks Judy,

    JOAN,
    How are your cabinets?

    Dora,
    Bienvenue to you.
    It is wonderful to be back home with family. Reading the posts and not being able to respond was horrible. I'm happy now. :) :) :) :)

    Wonderful Alex was able to help me out.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 4:19 PM

    Good Morning FOB's
    We are Fans Of Barbaro but I'm beginning to look at FOB as Family Of Barbaro.

    Debbie Singer.....amazing video....more tears. You did good.

    Harriet....Brilliant as always. If only our Congress GOT IT.

    Hay Renee!!!!

    I think baby is nursing. I just have a heiny view but I really think that's what's happening.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 4:19 PM

    shiraz and baby are both up--and mama is letting her baby nurse!

    Posted by: linda s nyc at February 22, 2007 4:19 PM

    Shiraz is actually letting the colt nurse - FINALLY!

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 4:20 PM

    Kathy in Colorado,
    I think you are right. I'll bet when Barbaro raids cabinest he is feeding his girlfriend Rosie. We all know his appetite.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 4:21 PM

    Meanwhile Rosie has her head in the bucket!!! LOL

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 4:21 PM

    Drunken sailor is true to his name....looking for the tap at the end of the bar.....

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 4:22 PM

    ###
    Good to see Dora, Renee, Cathy...EVERYONE!!!

    ###
    Renee...like I told Judy I just love my midnight raiders..

    Posted by: JOAN ROYA at February 22, 2007 4:24 PM

    Why does Shiraz keep moving away? That makes me feel so bad for the little one. :( I want to hug him and tell him it will all be OK.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 4:24 PM

    Good morning Barbaro Nation !

    Good morning Alex!

    Jen, so sorry about Koda. The same thing happened to me years ago in NYC when a now-ex took my 11 month old Yorkie, Bosco, out without a leash and he darted across the street at another dog and got nailed. I was inside the apartment and the biggest "force" shook things and a door slammed shut. I knew something had happened -- it was like at that moment Bosco's soul was forced out of his body. Another example to me of the solid existence of the spirit. It was shattering to me, however, and that man with whom I had had a long relationship became an ex shortly afterward. Again, I am very very sorry for all that you are feeling.

    To whomever is attending Dr. Richardson's lecture by private invitation, PLEASE post the details when you return.

    Watching the Rosie cam !

    Thoughts of Barbaro always !!!!

    RUN HOOF RUN !
    ACN above always !

    Posted by: Karen, PA at February 22, 2007 4:25 PM

    cathypotter,
    ROFLMAO

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 4:25 PM

    ### Hi Renee ;-)

    ((((((((( Barbaro ))))))))))))))))))

    ######Alex..... get some rest ;-) you deserve it!!!!!! (( Alex )))))

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 4:26 PM

    Shiraz as been a total bitch to this little guy - she is much better this morning - BUT - she acts like she doesn't like him or even want him around - when he is nursing she is not happy. I guess some animals just are not cut out to be mommies - I know several women who are not cut out to be mommies!

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 4:27 PM

    jen,
    I am so sorry about Koda, it is so difficult. You did your BEST!

    Linnie,
    It was good to see you post again.

    It was so nice to see all the old timers on the board too,it brought back good memories.

    Sorry for rambeling...withdrawls.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 4:29 PM

    Uh- Joan,
    midnight raiders at the boyfriends house in the country consist of: field mice, moles, shrews,lizards,skinks,birds and losts of other little goodies that the catchildren deem to bring in and hide until late at night and you are asleep...UGH
    Oh what fun it is to wake up to go to bathroom and step on something alive and warm and squishy and either:moving,squeeking, slithering etc. OOH! And he wonders why I do not sleep there anymore!!!

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 4:30 PM

    Shiraz is being a good Mom now. I think maybe she gets impatient when DS pulls or bites down.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 4:30 PM

    Hi Nina.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 4:31 PM

    ###
    Sally
    That would be me...to humans anyway. I love my furkids and Cloud.

    Hay....where did Shiraz & DS go?

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 4:32 PM

    Dora,
    I love the country but not that much. Eeeee B geeee B's

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 4:33 PM

    ### Daryl- have tried contacting someone at the rescue coalition about being a MO rep but havent heard back from anyone. I am going to direct my grief for my dog into something positive. Not only for saving horses but also all thoses poor cats and dogs that die without having someone who loved them. I have found my purpose on this site. I dont have a huge farm but I am going to make myself open to fostering rescued horses as much as I can handle. Please contact me. Jen Picsbyjen@yahoo.com

    Posted by: jen at February 22, 2007 4:34 PM

    Welcome back Renee

    Mary L - Thank you so much for picture of Shiraz and baby

    I might as well be able to view cams at work because I spend so much time here at work reading updates anyway.

    Thanks again for updates on Rosie and Baby Shiraz.

    Can't wait to get home again and view myself.

    Posted by: jeri at February 22, 2007 4:34 PM

    ####
    Renee, good to see you.

    Posted by: Cal at February 22, 2007 4:34 PM

    Stall Cleanup - now if they had chickens the place would be spotless.

    Cathy - like I said some people are not cut out to be mommies - LOL - good thing you did not have any kids - lol - Cloud does love his mommy!!!

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 4:36 PM

    ###
    Thanks Leslie (MN), Laurie H (MN) and Daryl ... I am really excited about this. Leslie, I am going to email you later this afternoon. I am at work right now. I know I will need help with this! I think Barbaro definitely had a "hoof" in guiding me to this place!

    There is hope for the fur kids, after all!

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 4:37 PM

    I used to think I'd be a bad momma, but realized I'd be a bad pregnant woman instead! LOL! I love kids, I just wouldn't love the process of having them (well...except for that first part...vbeg!).

    It seems Shiraz and DS are coming along slowly. DS gets to nurse a little longer each time. But you can tell Shiraz is having some physical discomfort still. It hurts to see her push the little one away, but she seems to be doing it less today.

    And Rosie continues to eat and eat and eat...I'm beginning to doubt she's pregnant. Her butt's just getting bigger every day from all those alfalfa cubes! LOL!

    Now...where did Shiraz and DS go? Oh, and look - kitty invasion!!!

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 4:38 PM

    #### Dont know if this is posted yet, but Blood Horse is reporting that IL rep Molaro introduced a bill today that will stop any horses being transported into the state for slaughter for human consumption. It is Starting to work. Lets get active on this if we can! A bright side of a miserable week for me. Jen

    Posted by: jen at February 22, 2007 4:38 PM

    ##

    Welcome jeri, waiting to get a picture of Rosie with her hen maids, that will be a cute one to share!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 4:38 PM

    KITTIES

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 4:38 PM

    Well I'll be...Shiraz has a kitty crew like Rosie has the Chicken Brigade.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 4:38 PM

    Sally, they seem to have rubulkiddens for cleanup! LOL

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 4:39 PM

    Karen,

    What is Dr. Richardson's private lecture? I haven't heard anything. What is this about? Does anyone know?

    Posted by: Margie Clayton at February 22, 2007 4:39 PM

    Oh, look, Shiraz has a cat crew.

    Posted by: annie in TX at February 22, 2007 4:39 PM

    Renee-you have no idea OMG

    The neat thing about him moving there in 1999 is seeing the wildlife. I get to see and interact with animals I had previously only seen in mags or TV.

    That part is incredible. Others not so much. I could tell stories for days, like the snake in the bird house one, the bull that rammed my car one, the oppossums in the rain chasing the cats one, on & on they go....

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 4:40 PM

    Did you see that one go NASCAR and fly out of the stall? Too funny!

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 4:40 PM

    Are they taking all the straw out?

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 4:42 PM

    ###
    Jen
    That is fantastic news in light of the report about the Cavel plant sanitation issues.
    Guys....we are on a roll here. Let's make B and his Mom proud and continue our efforts to stop the slaughter. Make a couple calls or faxes while enjoying the show.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 4:43 PM

    they remind me of my two kitties--one runs and hides and the other is in your face!!
    looks like this little one is supervising the cleanup

    Posted by: linda s nyc at February 22, 2007 4:44 PM

    Rosie has adopted B's motto....
    "If I can't eat it....I don't want it."

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 4:44 PM

    Jen, I am so sorry about Koda. My thoughts are with you. I dont have a cam on my cheap web.tv. so appreciate the updates on Rosie. What happened to the interview with dr. R. on GMA. did I miss it? I read somewhere that eventually a movie will be made about Barbaro. I was wondering how could they find a horse who would play Barbaro.
    Of course, if a movie is made about Bobby I would be the first in line to see it. along with several boxes of kleenex. Giving chief his elevil for his thunderstorm anxiety. guess can tell when we have our next thunderstorm (CRINGE!) if they help. Have a good day FOBs and will be checking on Rosie.

    Posted by: sandra at February 22, 2007 4:45 PM

    Jen, so sorry to hear about Koda. Koda joins some wonderful angels and will be well taken care of by them, I'm sure!

    I cannot get the cam up at work to watch any of this, which is probably a good thing since I have so much to do here today in the office.

    I am still lurking, not posting so much because my life has gotten very busy lately, but wanted to pop in and say hello. Keep up all of the good work!

    Posted by: Sheila at February 22, 2007 4:45 PM

    ###
    Leslie, Laurie and Daryl, I know I just posted a few minutes ago, but I am overwelmed with emotion! Your caring and generosity has touched my heart. I will be in touch with you later. I am in tears, but they are tears of joy!

    God Bless You all! God Bless Barbaro!

    Ruth

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 4:45 PM

    Rosie is so busy eating that I think she forgot she has a baby to deliver...LOL
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 4:45 PM

    **** Dora, Who do we make the checks payable to ?
    I've emailed Bea, but Ive been ignored thus far.
    Thanks

    Posted by: Harriette Brillianthawk at February 22, 2007 4:49 PM

    ##
    Hariette . Bea posted her snail mail address on the thread for all to send checks too

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 4:53 PM

    As they are cleaning Shiraz's birthing stall, I just noticed that they picked up sections of flooring to clean "between the cracks." Is this some kind of padded flooring? I wondered why they didn't seem to have much straw. Anybody know about this?

    Posted by: annie in TX at February 22, 2007 4:59 PM

    Mary L, I know the address. WHO DO WE MAKE CHECKS PAYABLE TO????

    Posted by: Harriette Brillianthawk at February 22, 2007 4:59 PM

    ####
    Jen,
    That's terrific re: IL bill...
    [Btw: You may want to check out equine-heaven.com
    a little later. There may be a message for you...I know David from Gates of Eden had one yesterday...]

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at February 22, 2007 5:00 PM

    Good morning sweet Barbaro...sending lots of love to you, today and always.

    Good morning Alex, FOB's: I hope all is well with you.

    Posted by: Maria K. at February 22, 2007 5:01 PM

    LOL, LOL, LOL LOOK AT ROSIE.... SHE IS GOING TO EAT THE BUCKET!!!!!!!!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 5:02 PM

    ###
    Does anyone know if Grandma Bea got permission from NBC for the plaque? I have been working on a similar project for Barbaro's stall and am still waiting for permission from NBC to proceed. I personally wouldn't send money unless I knew that this project has the approval of NBC.

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 5:03 PM

    ###

    Hariette

    Checks to : Bea Gobee

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 5:03 PM

    ##
    Ruth, yes she got permission from NBC for the plaque

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 5:03 PM

    Does anyone know......
    What is Dr. Richardson's private lecture mentioned above by Karen at 4:25???

    Also, has anyone heard about the interview ESPN was doing with Dr. Richardson?

    Posted by: Margie Clayton at February 22, 2007 5:03 PM

    Ahhh, here comes all fresh new straw for Shiraz and baby. They really spiff it up for these guys, don't they!?!

    Posted by: annie in TX at February 22, 2007 5:04 PM

    Responses to this post have been coming in, several every day, so I will continue to repost until the file sharing links run out...

    Thanks to everyone for participating!


    *********Anti-slaughter Postcard*********

    Hi all-

    Edie and I have created an anti slaughter postcard as another method of correspondence with our senators and representatives.
    It is eye catching, brief, should get through security quickly, and will be inexpensive to reproduce and mail.

    See the ***Anti slaughter postcard*** thread
    under Anti Slaughter Issues folder on the forum. If you can't access the forum, send an email to antislaughterlobby@earthlink.net for details on how to download...

    We hope you find this useful.
    Let's get this legislation passed for Barbaro!

    Christian and Edie

    P.S. Any feedback regarding getting postcards printed, cost of printing etc. plus any questions,
    please email. Thanks!

    Posted by: Christian at February 22, 2007 5:04 PM

    Ruth Stacey, I don't post much - but do visit here everyday. My heart broke when I read about the passing of your brother and what you were going through trying to place his beloved pets in a good home. Since I am not able to do anything physically to help, I am going to make a donation to the Home for Life sanctuary. It's the least I can do.

    Take care and God bless!

    Linda in NV

    Posted by: LindaNV at February 22, 2007 5:04 PM

    Ruth

    We are here for you Ruth. I am at work also so I'll get your email after work and we will work out any plans. I have an SUV big enough for my own two labs and I will be your point person in Minneapolis if you need me. I would be Honored!!!

    The MN FOBS will support you Ruth!

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at February 22, 2007 5:05 PM

    Great news regarding the ILL rep introducing that bill. The Barbaro effect is growing rapidly.
    Hope everyone can spare a few minutes call or fax your reps, senators and members of the committees so we can prevent more horses from suffering. Remembering all the unnamed horses, the White Mare and the Kaufman 400.

    Wonderful article about Kim Zito tracing her horse to save him. I talked to a breeder I know at Three Chimneys that had no idea some of the horses he bred and sold or have been claimed could be in danger of going to slaughter. We just need to keep getting the word out.

    Barb m in Florida

    Posted by: Barb m in Florida at February 22, 2007 5:05 PM

    Dora,
    You sure don't lead a boring life.

    Cal and jeri,
    Thanks good to be back.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 5:05 PM

    ####
    Hi Ruth:
    Minnesotans are caring people. We'll certainly do what we can. I'm in Arizona so please work through Leslie and Laurie. Then they can tell me what's required.
    Leslie and Laurie, my e-mail:
    shanamrdiv@yahoo.com
    phone: 651-785-5794
    Daryl

    ps. I'm having trouble with Yahoo e-mail. People send messages that I don't recieve. If that happens, please call me!

    Posted by: Daryl Smoliak at February 22, 2007 5:07 PM

    ####
    Mary L - very cool how you have been able to post pictures of Rosie from the camera!!

    Posted by: Wendy at February 22, 2007 5:09 PM

    I hope everyone that wants to has gotten into the pool I started

    I was thinking I should allow the winner to pick whatever charity she wants along the lines of Barbaro's legacy instead of just a rescue. It'd be nice to contribute to the Barbaro Fund or other funds to fight laminitis as well as horse rescues.

    Posted by: Wendy at February 22, 2007 5:10 PM

    ##

    Welcome Wendy and thanks for linking to them, everyone wants to see the chicken brigade in there. lol. waiting and watching!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 5:12 PM

    Linda in NV
    Thank you so much for all you are doing to help me. Please DO NOT make a donation directly to the organization. Email me at rs281ms@aol.com. There is certain protocol to follow. Email me so I can let you know how to proceed. Thank you for your loving heart!

    Ruth

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 5:12 PM

    Has anyone posted this yet? Pictures of Drunken Sailor! OMG, what a darling!

    http://www.elementsarabians.com/07foal01.html

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 5:14 PM

    New Update!!! www.equine-heaven.com

    Posted by: Equine Heaven at February 22, 2007 5:18 PM

    Laurie,

    He is adorable!!!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 5:18 PM

    Hi Ruth - I just sent you an e mail.

    Posted by: LindaNV at February 22, 2007 5:19 PM

    Barb,
    Yes, I read that yesterday about Kim Zito. Having the first choice to buy back a horse you sold to someone is a great way to raise awareness and save a horse. On her bill of sale she had an agreement that if the horse was ever to be sold she would be called first. That particular horse went on to be very productive, finding a whole new life. Wouldn't it be wonderful if this could be put into regular use somehow, making a stop gap measure before the horse goes to slaughter.

    Posted by: Bonnie MacRaith at February 22, 2007 5:21 PM

    ####### True Fans of Barbaro.....

    This is my last post. I will not be posting here anymore nor will I be coming here to read anything. I have enjoyed the good times and all of the eduacation that I got while I was here but it really is time for me to move on. For those of you who know me, you can talk to me there.

    I have nothing against anyone. I just feel that a closer needs to be put to the negativity in my life. I have been lamb blasted for the last time. I am sorry for anyone that I offended and I wish you all well......

    Good Luck to all of you.....

    Bye..... Nina.......... (My Angel IS Barbaro)

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 5:22 PM

    We have lots of great projects going on here, and terrific entertainment. But let's not forget what Rosie's fate might have been; please take the time to make your phone calls and to urge everyone you know to do likewise.

    Rosie is wonderful publicity for our cause. As you show her to your friends, remember to use the time as a teachable moment to involve them in the grassroots anti-slaughter movement!

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 5:24 PM

    Hi Alex,
    Our newspaper in Grass Valley, CA had an artical on Barbaro. I thought you guys might want to see it but do not know how to post it. Here is the newspaper link www.theunion.com
    Karann

    Posted by: Karann at February 22, 2007 5:26 PM

    Nina,
    I really hate to see you go. Don't let anyone make you leave this site.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 5:26 PM

    Peggy in AZ

    While I agree there is a huge need to take a closer look at many things that go on in the horse racing industry, I have to agree this is not the right forum nor is the Preakness the right place to picket. I think we need to show proper respect for our gracious Internet host and for the Jackson's.

    However, for the record I too believe three years olds colts as breed today are too young to race. I also believe some of the drugs used on racehorses have caused serious problems for American Race Horses. It is my hope that as natural groups form and people began to ask questions about some of the practices. The horse racing industry will respond in a positive manner. I’d like to think that the racing industry would love to see more of the everyday family type people attend horse races. And that just will not happen until the industry cleans up what goes on behind closed doors.

    I for one am not interested in attending a racing knowing that it is highly likely I will see a horse injured then put down. Emotionally, I just don’t have that kind of spending money. I think there are a lot of people like me. I just love horses and I would love to see them race. I can’t think of anything more lovely than a Sunday afternoon, sitting in the sun, with a glass of wine in hand watching a majestic horses flying down the track, the roar of the crowds. But I won’t do go because of the numbers of horses injured each and every week.

    If the industry at large wants more people like me they need to take a hard look at why we are not attending the races. It they don’t care and want to draw only the gambling types, and ever dwindling numbers of spectators, things will stay as they are today, won’t they. Because of what I have learned during that last nine months while hoping for Barbaro recovery, I am willing to ask the questions. In the end the “Industry” will have to make the decisions of the types of crowds they want to attract.

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 22, 2007 5:28 PM

    About Shiraz and her foal
    For those of you who did not watch last night, Shiraz had a scary and difficult breech delivery. The owners did not turn off the cameras, so we had what, at least for me, will I am sure be a rare opportunity to witness this procedure.

    I am no expert, but it seems to me that Shiraz's not having gone through a full delivery with normal release of hormones, plus the drugs used during delivery, plus not having been able to bond with her foal immediately, plus all her discomfort, must all be factors in this slow bonding.

    As Mary L and others have pointed out, these are very experienced, caring, and well-known owners of Arabians, and they are monitoring the situation closely. They were in the stall constantly last night, helping the foal to nurse, and I'm guessing they are now on a strategy of mostly leaving them alone to bond. But they are seeing everything we are seeing, so I am hoping we can refrain from calling them, etc., which might only make them wish they didn't have the foalcam...

    It is such a gift to be able to watch all these foals.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 5:32 PM

    Rosie is so huge! She needs to birth that baby!

    where's "FogHorn LegHorn" turkey man?

    Posted by: chris byers at February 22, 2007 5:32 PM

    #### Nina? Don't go! What happened?

    Posted by: Cal at February 22, 2007 5:32 PM

    Does Rosie have any idea she is pregnant and that we are waiting. My God that horse can eat! She is just taking her sweet time.

    Rosie push.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 5:32 PM

    Pet Tales: Barbaro's bravery touched many hearts
    Thursday, February 22, 2007

    By Linda Wilson Fuoco, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    Beautiful Barbaro captured hearts, exhibiting speed and determination on every track where he raced. We thought we were watching thoroughbred history in the making. As we cheered him on, we thought we were watching the next Triple Crown winner.


    PG Blog


    Visit Pet Tales Journal -- a new PG Blog by Linda Wilson Fuoco.



    When Barbaro broke down in the Preakness last May, horse lovers wept.

    When that big colt harnessed his determination and courage to battle life-threatening injuries, we loved him even more. Horse lovers rooted for Barbaro to recover from a broken leg that would have been an instant equine death sentence not so very long ago.

    That Barbaro lost his battle to recover and survive does not take away from his legacy. Barbaro's ordeal will help other horses -- and not just the well-bred racehorses and show horses that are worth millions of dollars.

    Horses are relatively fragile creatures. Slim legs and thin ankles support bodies that usually weigh more than 1,000 pounds.

    Racehorses aren't the only equines that break legs. Victims include chubby ponies cherished by little girls and calm horses ridden slowly on wooded trails. Riderless horses break legs frolicking in pastures. Horses even break legs in stalls filled with fluffy piles of straw or sawdust.

    Do you remember Ruffian? In 1974 and 1975 many people were calling her the greatest filly in the history of thoroughbred racing. Undefeated in 10 starts, she broke a leg on July 7, 1975, during her 11th race.

    Many were surprised when she wasn't euthanized. She was anesthetized and surgeons repaired her leg. She struggled and thrashed as she woke up. She fought caretakers who tried to restrain her. She re-broke her injured leg and was euthanized.

    What veterinarians learned while trying to save Ruffian has helped other horses, including Barbaro.

    "Equine anesthesia drugs are much better now," said Dr. Kimberly May, an equine surgeon and a medical and science writer with the American Veterinary Medical Association. "We learned from Ruffian."

    Barbaro came through the anesthesia just fine, waking up in a sling and suspended in a pool of water. He reportedly did not thrash or struggle.

    Barbaro and Ruffian had completely different personalities, said Dr. May, who did not treat either horse but has followed both cases. "Ruffian did not have the temperament" to survive the treatment.

    Thoroughbreds are bred to run fast. They are bred to fight to win. They can be hot tempered and hard to handle, especially when they are young.

    Despite that breeding, Barbaro was generally calm and easy to handle throughout his treatment.

    The horse bred to run fast was, amazingly, calm enough to endure eight months of standing still.

    Barbaro was treated at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center for Large Animals, located about 20 miles from the main campus in Philadelphia.

    Horse owners in Pennsylvania are lucky it's there, for veterinary schools provide advanced and experimental treatments that regular vets can't provide.

    Horse lovers in Western Pennsylvania are more likely to send gravely sick and injured horses to the veterinary school at Ohio State University, because Columbus is closer to Pittsburgh.

    Barbaro, like all veterinary school patients, had round-the-clock care and supervision every day, Dr. May said. The team of caregivers included young veterinary students. Barbaro's top doc was Dean Richardson, chief of surgery at Penn's veterinary school.

    It wasn't broken bones that killed Barbaro. It was a painful foot condition known as laminitis. Toxins can cause laminitis, and so can unequal weight distribution. In Barbaro's case, as he favored his injured leg, he put more weight on his other three legs, and laminitis developed. At the end, vets said, the horse literally did not have a good leg to stand on.

    "We lose a lot of horses to laminitis every year," Dr. May said, "but we save many, too. We've come a long way. Barbaro's death will draw attention to the condition and may raise more support for laminitis research."

    Why did so many people care about this horse? Even Dr. Richardson wept on Jan. 29 when he told the world that Barbaro was dead.

    "People love greatness," Dr. Richarson said. "People love the story of his bravery."

    Posted by: chris byers at February 22, 2007 5:37 PM

    Linda NV ... Thanks. I promise to email you later this afternoon.

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 5:37 PM

    Yes, Shariz had a very tough time, but she's lovin' on baby right now. Horsie kisses while the baby rests. I feel good about this.

    Posted by: annie in TX at February 22, 2007 5:39 PM

    As we wait for Rosie, and watch Shiraz and her baby, please call your representatives, send e-mails, faxes and....get everyone you know to do the same.

    The following has been re-posted with permission from Cheryl Jones.

    Please Come Back For Me

    Please come back for me, I don't like it here. You loaded me in the trailer..as you have hundreds of times and we've ridden the trails, the meadows, the beaches, quiet roads, quiet days.

    You didn't stay with me this day.. You left me here in this place. Please come back for me, I don't like it here. There are many like me. Did you think I needed their company? So many..so close, so warm, yet some shiver and some look frightened..some tired and some bewildered, like me.

    Please come back for me. I'm frightened too. We've been together for so long..I can't help but look for you.. I want to see you stroll back, halter and lead in hand to take me away.
    I promise I'll never resist the trailer ever again.

    Please come back for me.. Your children wove their tiny fingers through my mane. They sat on my back, their laughter like bright sunshine. It was long ago, they've gone on with their own lives.. Do I have no more purpose in yours?

    I promise to stay well..I won't eat so much. If you keep your commitment to me that you swore to when I was young.. Love me, feed me well, I'll do my part..I won't colic, I won't founder, I swear.. Please come back for me

    I don't think I can live without you There are men here who look strange, as though they know things.. Some are gruff, some look sad. It's just a job they do. It's not a good place, I don't know why but I know.

    Please come back for me. I know you will
    The days go on and you don't come. I am so frightened, so scared. I am tired, but I can't lie down. I can't lie in warm sweet-smelling straw. The smells here are bad and there is no comfort here, no rest, no love.

    Did I betray you? Disappoint you? Please forgive me..come back for me I love you still.

    ****

    Let's get this passed everyone so we don't have to think about horses going through this anymore.

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 5:39 PM

    I didn't see DS's birth last night but was sufficiently freaked out just from reading the posts here. I watched for a few hours late last night, saw everything that was being done to help mother and foal and am really impressed with the owners and the trust Shiraz has in them. I would never think of calling them, especially since I know zilch about all of this and am learning as I watch. I know there are many other, more knowledgeable eyes watching over them.

    Today seems to be a better day for both, and I"m grateful to be able to watch and learn.

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 5:40 PM

    ###
    Marilyn, CA

    Well said...!
    So while Rosie is having yet another snack, take a minute to contact your reps, or to ask a friend
    to contact his/her reps...

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at February 22, 2007 5:41 PM

    Good run Gator Nation...great comeback to take 2nd!!

    Bonnie C
    from Oxford, PA

    Posted by: Bonnie at February 22, 2007 5:41 PM

    RENEE - IF that's really Renee from CT - how are you? It was reported to us that you were in the hospital over the weekend...not that your computer wasn't working...

    here we go again...

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 22, 2007 5:42 PM

    Gatornation ran a very nice 2nd at Laurel!

    Posted by: Steve at February 22, 2007 5:43 PM

    Marilyn - I know these people are very well trained that is why I have NOT called - lol. It just is not easy to watch Shiraz treat her baby like that. She is much better than last night - but she still needs to start acting like a mom.

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 5:44 PM

    While we enjoy watching Rosie, please remember what her fate would have been if not for Barbaro.

    Please take 5 minutes of your day to call and fax your Representatives


    FOR BARBARO, FOR ROSIE

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 5:45 PM

    Hola Barbaro Nation,

    Georgia FOB's If you have some time please call your representatives in DC. I believe that momentum is swinging our way.

    ###
    Marilyn and Laurie good points. As a novice I consider it a privilege, albeit a scary one, to watch these beautiful foals being born. I will need cyber hand holding when Rosie decides to reward our addiction.......and a Bararotini.

    God bless Barbaro.

    Posted by: Marky at February 22, 2007 5:49 PM

    Nancy in CT,
    I was Friday and Saturday. Better now, plus my computer was doing strange things. I'm back.Yipppppppe! How are you doing? Both were right can you believe that. LOL

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 5:49 PM

    woops...3rd for Gator Nation...but it was still a good run!

    Bonnie C
    from Oxford, PA

    Posted by: Bonnie at February 22, 2007 5:51 PM

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    SALLY - I'm really trying hard to LIKE Shiraz, but she's not making it easy! That baby is so beautiful - I wonder if he'd like to live with me! By the way, was Rosie's first foal already adopted by the time you got to NV? What a beauty...

    RENEE - still trying to keep it together about losing Barbaro - I remind myself that "it takes as long as it takes" and there are no time limits on grief...but, oh, how I miss that Big Boss Horse!

    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 22, 2007 5:54 PM

    ####

    Ruth Stacey and Leslie in MN,

    I'm at lunch so just now able to post again...

    If it's anything to consider, if some or all of the "kids" are flying in, if it would be easier on them to fly them into a smaller airport, I could help with that. I'm thinking Rochester, MN or LaCrosse, WI.

    Nothing against larger airports but I know I'm more relaxed in smaller ones.

    I could pick them up and drive them up to the sanctuary or a meeting place...again, if it's worth considering.

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at February 22, 2007 5:55 PM

    ##Renee, so glad to hear you're ok, take care of yourself.

    (((Barbaro)))

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy (Ontario, CAN) at February 22, 2007 5:55 PM

    ##

    Hey Linnie, Grandma Bea,

    Gatornation just contributed to the Laminitis Fund!

    I will now send a fax in his honor to my reps!

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 5:55 PM

    Hi all,

    Shiraz' little guy is sooo cute - I'm sure that they will bond in time. It sounds like she is doing better already. Don't have the cam here at work, so keep the updats on Rosie, Shiraz and DS coming.

    Nina or Renee Antaya -
    what happened to make Nina leave??

    Barbaro, thinking of you always. My inspiration.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at February 22, 2007 5:55 PM

    And there she is in all her big belly splendor while her chicken brigade tend to her every need.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 5:58 PM

    Please call, fax, email your House Reps and Senators.

    We must end slaughter.

    Posted by: chris byers at February 22, 2007 5:59 PM

    .. waiting for Mr. Turkey to appear....

    Posted by: chris byers at February 22, 2007 6:00 PM

    Nancy - yes Rosie's first was adopted in Oregon. So she did not make the trip to Nevada. She is in a very loving home and is being trained. We are promised pictures of her one of these days and I will email to you.

    Shiraz is a beauty but she needs to learn to be a mom - she is must better today than last night. I know she had a rough time of it last night - I was watching. I'm sure she is probably sore and grumpy. DS is just as cute as can be. Hope this bonding happens quickly - LOL.

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 6:02 PM

    In yesterday's posts (No. 212), there was talk of a "by invitation only" lecture Dr. Richardson was giving. One of our Barbaro Nation people received an invitation and was going to go NO MATTER WHAT !

    If you scroll through the posts, you should find it. I will try to do so later after meetings !

    I too am quite anxious to see the Dr. Richardson/Jeannine Edwards interview. Perhaps she is preparing a story for one month anniversary of Barbaro's passing or maybe for The Kentucky Derby pre-shows. Don't know, and Alex has not updated us on it.

    Will try to find specifics and re-post them unless someone else finds yesterdays lecture information first.

    Thanks !

    XOXOXOXO to BARBARO !

    Posted by: Karen, PA at February 22, 2007 6:02 PM

    This is the first time I have ever seen a horse lay down, Shiraz looks so pretty. Now I can visualize how Barabo looked when he did.

    Nancy In CT,
    Time heals all we never stop missing them though.He was and is such a bright light. I think we will always miss him and be affected, we saw a brave soul show what he was made of and boy he was made of Greatness. He inspires me when I get down to get up and go on. Thank you Barbaro.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 6:02 PM

    ##Congratulations GATORNATION !!!
    Judy

    Posted by: Judy (Ontario, CAN) at February 22, 2007 6:02 PM

    In yesterday's posts (No. 212), there was talk of a "by invitation only" lecture Dr. Richardson was giving. One of our Barbaro Nation people received an invitation and was going to go NO MATTER WHAT !

    If you scroll through the posts, you should find it. I will try to do so later after meetings !

    I too am quite anxious to see the Dr. Richardson/Jeannine Edwards interview. Perhaps she is preparing a story for one month anniversary of Barbaro's passing or maybe for The Kentucky Derby pre-shows. Don't know, and Alex has not updated us on it.

    Will try to find specifics and re-post them unless someone else finds yesterdays lecture information first.

    Thanks !

    XOXOXOXO to BARBARO !

    Posted by: Karen, PA at February 22, 2007 6:03 PM

    REPOSTED AT GRANDMA BEA'S REQUEST...her address to send contributions toward the Laminitis Fund. We have approximately $1,500 left from contributions to the placque, and that amount was to be donated to the Laminitis Fund at New Bolton. HOWEVER, some generous person challenged Bea to increase the total to $3,000 BY MARCH 17th, and if so, that person will donate $2,000 for a GRAND TOTAL of $5,000!!!! If you'd like to help, checks payable to BEA GOBEE and noted "Laminitis Fund in memory of Barbaro" in the memo section can be mailed to...

    Bea Gobee
    373 Saw Creek Estates
    Bushkill PA 18324

    There is a wonderful, beautiful STAR IN THE SKY, who carriest the name BARBARO that is FOREVER, shining down on us and will NEVER, EVER go away. We treasure that star.
    Grandma Bea, Ladee Elizabeth & Remington Barbaro Gobee

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 22, 2007 6:05 PM

    Nina's email address was messed with after she posted it here. She got a very repulsive, disgusting and threatening email against her life. It is a shame, I feel sorry for her she was nice had a good heart and funny too.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 6:07 PM

    ###
    Laurie H and Leslie in MN ... There are MANY details that have to be worked out. Please Laurie and Leslie email me at rs281ms@aol.com. I will get back to both of you later this afternoon or early evening. Between the FOB's in MN and all of the other caring FOBs on this site (and of course, Barbaro) we ARE going to make this happen!

    Blessings!

    Ruth

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 6:08 PM

    ##
    SALLY

    Do the chickens go into all the stalls? I was wondering if Rosie's mellow nature attracts them? I have grown attached to Wilbur and the feather brigade.I miss them at night.

    Posted by: Marky at February 22, 2007 6:08 PM

    ###
    RENEE - how true! In about a month I'll have to begin looking for a job (at my advanced age) and I'm resolving to approach this huge problem with courage and determination JUST LIKE BARBARO!!!!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 22, 2007 6:08 PM

    shiraz and DS are definitely bonding--mama is lying in a very protective postion.
    Very sweet.

    Posted by: linda s nyc at February 22, 2007 6:09 PM

    ###
    SALLY - maybe Shiraz and her boy need WILBUR to go down there and get them organized!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 22, 2007 6:10 PM

    ###
    I cannot believe that anyone would be so cruel and heartless to do that to Nina! I cannot believe that anyone so cruel and heartless would even be on this site. This site about caring and love and generosity and helping each other. What a creep!

    We will find another way to stay in touch, Nina!

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 6:10 PM

    ###
    Renee ... I am so glad that you are better! Welcome back, friend!

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 6:11 PM

    The chickens hang out in all the stalls - but recently they have been spending more time with Rosie - I think it is all the straw that attracts them.

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 6:15 PM

    REpost: Grandma Bea's address follows

    Hello everyone. Hope this sparks your interest. BARBARO TAUGHT ME TO BELIEVE IN MIRACLES. Believe in Barbaro......his work continues.

    We currently have $1,429.00 once the plaque is paid for (I even got the trophy store owner to contribute - ALL THE LETTERING IS FREE, HE WILL NOT CHARGE US OVER THE 100 FREE CHARACTERS - I used my charm and he agreed LOL)

    Barbaro's $3,000.00 Miracle goes like this. Someone who wants to remain anonymous for now will donate $2,000.00 to our cause for the Laminitis Fund ONLY and ONLY this person says, IF WE RAISE $3,000.00 total. Then they would donate $2,000.00 so we can present NBC with a check for a grand total of: $5,000.00.

    I have been told that if we accommplish this and raise the $3,000.00, and this person's bluff is called and they have to hold true to their part of the bargin, and only then can I reveal who the person is donating the $2,000.00.

    We need to get $1,571.00 by March 17th, scary, I just looked at the calendar and that is 3 weeks from saturday. do you think we can do it. We raised and donated $3,812.00 to the Barbaro fund in honor of Dr. Richardson's birthday. Do you think we can get $812.00 less than that, $3,000.00 by March 17th.

    I made a promise I would not say more than this, other than the bank account number that is holding the funds for this donation - I call it Barbaro's account contains the numbers: 29 and a 1. 1 29, is this a coincidence.

    The life of the dead is etched in the memory of the living...

    There is a wonderful, beautiful STAR IN THE SKY, who carries the name BARBARO that is FOREVER, shining down on us and will NEVER, EVER go away. We treasure that star. Grandma Bea, Ladee Elizabeth & Remington Barbaro Gobee

    Checks should be sent and made out to :

    BEA GOBEE 373 Saw Creek Estates Bushkill, PA 18324
    Please put "laminitis fund in memory of Barbaro" in memo section

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 6:16 PM

    Hi Renee!!! Good to see you back & glad to hear you're feeling better. It was strange to scroll thru the posts & not see your name.

    Posted by: Judy in CT at February 22, 2007 6:16 PM

    Shiraz looks like she's getting the hang of it. When baby got up so did she and let him come over to nurse. I feel better now.

    Posted by: Ashley at February 22, 2007 6:16 PM

    OOps, Nancy-I looked up and there you already posted. sorry! :0)

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 6:17 PM

    Awwwww....Shiraz is being such a good Mom now.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 6:21 PM

    Finally - we have nursing going on and Shiraz is standing there letting him do it. YEEHAA

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 6:28 PM

    ###################
    Everyone!

    Looking at all the beautiful babies and mares, it is truly important that we get this Anti Slaughter bill passed now. So not one of them will ever see a killer Buyer, feedlots are the slaughter kill box.
    So please help, by calling your house Reps and Senators today, and each day until they get the bill passed!

    Daryl thanks for all your help!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 6:29 PM

    Forgot to say FAX and Email too!!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 6:31 PM

    Oh YAY!!!! for Shiraz and DS!!!! Oh, heck...now she seems agitated again. I just bet she's still sore and uncomfortable. It seems like she's really *trying* to be a good Mom. Ah...here comes her owner again, now she'll mellow out some.

    Question: I'm noticing this little QH foal is spending a lot of time lying down. Is that normal? I've always heard that horses can't lay down for very long, or maybe that's when they're adults?

    Laurie

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 6:33 PM

    Debbie LA
    That is so true. These beautiful babies -- we have no idea where their lives will lead. We can make sure that ALL of this new generation is safe from slaughter.

    Again, as you show the foalcam sites to your famliy, colleagues, and friends, please share with them your commitment to ending slaughter.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 6:33 PM

    Ruth Stacy - I don't know how the pets might be "delivered" to the MN home (hopefully it is still an option for you), BUT, if you need drivers I am volunteering to take the Des Moines to Minneapolis route and then could meet Laurie or Leslie or whoever there and do the exchange. Again, like I said, I'm not sure what can be planned but I wanted to put that out there.

    Linda R

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at February 22, 2007 6:34 PM

    Marilyn
    Excellent idea about sharing the foal cam with others in conjunction with sharing HS info. Once you get hooked on watching the babies it makes you think about their futures.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 6:38 PM

    ####
    Renee, Is that true about Nina? Have you heard from her? I e-mailed her after her final post. Haven't heard back from her yet. This just totally disgusts me. May whomever is responsible for this, rot in Hell. (sorry Alex) If you here fom Nina, Please have her contact me, Ok?

    Posted by: Cal at February 22, 2007 6:42 PM

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    Linda R ... Thank you so much. There is so much to be done before we can even think about transporting the fur kids. Please email me at rs281ms@aol.com. I can give you and Laurie and Leslie all of the things that need working on.

    I love you all!

    Ruth

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 6:43 PM

    Rosie Cam down????

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 6:45 PM

    yep its down - should be up shortly!

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 6:46 PM

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    Does Nina know how to read full headers on a email ?? IF so, she can trace the IP addy on there to the persons internet provider and file a complaint with them.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 6:47 PM

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    Chrissy At Timestamp 4:18: Couldn't agree more. THese darn jobs keep getting in the way of our REAL lives. Since it sounds like you are in MAryland, you can always pin your hopes on the big Megamillions jackpot tomorrow. Then no more work and lots of time for racing!
    ####
    Thanks to all who are giving marestare updates.I've watched a few foalings on video in my time but this one just seems so much more personal!

    Posted by: Terri C at February 22, 2007 6:48 PM

    ####
    Mary L. Excellent point. I'll e-mail Nina with your suggestion.

    Posted by: Cal at February 22, 2007 6:51 PM

    PAGING NURSE IMA CHICKEN -

    Please report to the MHR maternity wing.

    Posted by: Margie at February 22, 2007 6:53 PM

    Poor Shiraz! Can you imagine...she had one hell of a night, she's exhausted and now has this baby who wants to nurse and SHE is sore probably from the neck down. Poor girl, if she has more I hope it's easier for her. I'm glad her people are so good with helping her with her new baby, it overwhelming for her.

    Posted by: cindy a at February 22, 2007 6:57 PM

    #### Laurie--perfectly normal for baby foals to lay down a LOT. At this age, it would be a problem if he wasn't getting LOTS of sleep.

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at February 22, 2007 6:57 PM

    Just got off the phone with Stephanie @ MHR. No waxing yet but since Rosie didn't show signs her first time this is not unexpected. Rosie seems grumpy....guess not enough chicken action....
    Usually Rosie will follow her looking for treats. Didn't do that last time Steph went into the pen.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 6:58 PM

    Thanks, Dawn! Boy, little DS is a vigorous nurser! No wonder poor Shiraz can only take it for a short time, what with being so sore from the birth. They both seem to be doing so much better, though. A few minutes ago, I saw Shiraz munching some hay while DS was nursing.

    Okay, Rosie *didn't* come looking for treats? Hmmm...of course she has had her head in the feedbag the entire day.. LOL!!!

    Laurie


    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 7:02 PM

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    Thanks Cathy, I noticed Rosie was almost ignoring Stephanie today, NOT like her at all..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 7:03 PM

    Shiraz has one of her people in with her and the baby. Things seem to be going better...lunch is now being served for DS!

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 22, 2007 7:04 PM

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    Shiraz foal's name is "Sailor". Thought you all would like to know that

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 7:07 PM

    It looks like Electric Mountain (Matz) is running in the 9th at Gulfstream!!! I sure wish they made their track available without paying for it!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri in SE Texas at February 22, 2007 7:09 PM

    ####
    Cheryl Jones...that is so true, so sad...Skyler posting...PLEASE COME BACK FOR ME....

    Can you imagine those gentle souls, those beautiful eyes looking at us and asking us PLEASE COME BACK FOR ME...I DO NOT WANT TO BE SLAUGHTERED.

    LET US FAX, EMAIL, AND KEEP CALLING...

    Posted by: JOAN ROYA at February 22, 2007 7:09 PM

    Mary L

    HAHAHAHA....it's Drunken Sailor.
    Maybe that explains how wobbly he is. Shiraz has a "special blend" she's feeding him.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 7:10 PM

    Sailor--I love it!!!
    Shiraz is a good mom--she is guarding her adorable sailor

    Posted by: linda s nyc at February 22, 2007 7:10 PM

    I noticed Shiraz seems to firmly plant her bum up aginst the wall. Is that for pain relief or just to make sure some stallion doesn't sneak up? Clearly she is not in the mood.

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 22, 2007 7:10 PM

    Oops he has Correntina in the 5th also!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri in SE Texas at February 22, 2007 7:11 PM

    Oh my a full day!!! Putonyerdancinshuz is in the 7th!!!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri in SE Texas at February 22, 2007 7:11 PM

    Crud, Nevermind, Putonyerdancinshuz was scratched.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri in SE Texas at February 22, 2007 7:21 PM

    Tim left for Laurel early this morning. Gator Nation is in the first race, he also took Red Aspen with him, I am guessing to gallop at Laurel this morning
    Time 12:35 was the race, any news from Tim? Anyone see the race with Gator Nation?

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 7:21 PM

    All that nursing just wore everyone out! NAP TIME. Little DS is so cute - so glad he and mommy are finally finding each other. So Sweet.

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 7:24 PM

    ###
    Renee,
    If you are in touch with Nina, please give her my love and say I will miss her and hope she comes back.

    Please everyone keep up the Rosie-cam updates for those of us at work without access. Thank you so much. Wish I could see the chickens, I love the chickens!

    Good luck Rosie!

    Posted by: Kathe1420 at February 22, 2007 7:25 PM

    Has anyone read the Bloodhorse Transcript from the chat with Paul Saylor, the guy who owns Fleet Indian? It was really good. I think this guy would be on our side of the slaughter issue.

    http://www.bloodhorse.com/talkinhorses/PS022007.asp

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri in SE Texas at February 22, 2007 7:26 PM

    Just got my Until They Are Safe cuff from Habitat for Horses. My horse was a white pain mare, stripe, 4 white socks, slaughtered on 7/14/04.

    www.habitatforhorses.org $15. Money well spent. IMHO. Make those calls......

    Posted by: jonna at February 22, 2007 7:27 PM

    wow. what a Freudian slip: should read: "white paint mare...." not "pain mare." amazing.

    Posted by: jonna at February 22, 2007 7:28 PM

    Barbaro The Angel Of Love. Springtime a Rainbow Garden dedicated to him.

    Posted by: Dee Mirich at February 22, 2007 7:30 PM

    Way to go, Gator Nation & Tim!!! Congrats on a well run race!!!

    Alex~ Do you have any photos of Hawty Creek that you could post?? I'm so curious to see this girl.. Thanks!

    Posted by: Judy in CT at February 22, 2007 7:36 PM

    Cal,
    It is true! If someone does not like someone just scroll past their posts. It's so easy. There is no need for anyone to say what was said to Nina...it was really dirty amd uncalled for.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 7:38 PM

    Re: Shiraz and Sailor

    They were both sleeping just now. Sailor woke up first and walked over to Shiraz's head; Shiraz nosed him, then IMMEDIATELY got up and into a position to allow nursing, which they are doing now, with no resistance from Shiraz. Looks like all is well!

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 7:40 PM

    Thanks Alex, Have to wonder if the jocky had let him go just a little sooner, what have been???
    Way to go, Gator Nation & Tim

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 7:41 PM

    Good Afternoon FOBs.

    I have never posted more than once in a day, but
    I just had to comment on the picture of Shiraz
    and baby DS. How adorable is that!

    Also, keep wondering about Rosie. Hope all
    goes well.

    Have a good rest of the day everyone! Bless all
    of you!

    Posted by: Karen - MI at February 22, 2007 7:43 PM

    maybe Shiraz is full of milk and it actually feels good for Sailor to nurse - are they born with teeth?

    Posted by: Kathy in Colorado at February 22, 2007 7:44 PM

    Don't know about teeth. I am thinking that the lack of early nursing has made Shiraz very sensitive, though. She can only nurse for a few minutes at a time, but she is trying. (It does not help that Sailor is not that great at it...tends to look between the wrong legs, as now.)

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 7:49 PM

    Is there any news on FLICKA. I just was able to read about her story. How can people be so cruel. BARBARO IS IN OUR HEARTS FOREVER

    Posted by: hilary at February 22, 2007 7:50 PM

    any updates on Rosie cam? Can't get it at work

    Posted by: Kathy in Colorado at February 22, 2007 7:53 PM

    This just on the DB good news!

    Horse Slaughter Legislation Introduced in Illinois
    by: Press Release
    February 2007 Article # 8986


    A bill introduced in the Illinois State Legislature today (Feb. 22) could be a first step toward closing the state's horse slaughter plant.

    A Belgian company, Cavel International, runs a horse slaughter plant near DeKalb, Ill. A recent federal court decision has made it difficult for two Texas plants to operate, and could lead to their permanent closure. The three plants are the only facilities in the country that slaughter horses and export the meat for human consumption in Europe and Asia.

    The Illinois bill is sponsored by State Rep. Bob Molaro (D-Chicago). It would prohibit the transportation of horses into the state for the purpose of slaughter for human consumption.

    Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D) and the Illinois Department of Agriculture supported a similar bill when it was last introduced. Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D) is leading the federal effort with a bill cosponsored by Rep. John Spratt (D-SC) and Ed Whitfield (R-KY). Similar legislation is pending in the U.S. Senate.

    In May of 2004 a similar bill passed the Illinois Senate, but was narrowly defeated in the House.

    "This year, we are confident the legislation will clear both houses and be signed into law by Governor Blagojevich," said Chris Heyde, deputy legislative director of the Society for Animal Protective Legislation


    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 7:53 PM

    rosie is eating---for a change!

    Posted by: linda s nyc at February 22, 2007 7:54 PM

    Jen,

    I am so sorry for your loss. I am certain that Koda is now running free in a field of buttercups with our beloved Barbaro.

    Posted by: Jeanne at February 22, 2007 7:55 PM

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    Debbie...L.A...wonderful news...
    SHUT'EM DOWN....

    Hey, do you think Rosie should learn twister like Barbaro and the gang did....I love the tryouts for equine idol and Slew and his straw hat...

    Equine Heaven...you are heaven...thanks for putting a smile on us...

    Posted by: JOAN ROYA at February 22, 2007 8:02 PM

    to love
    ...for barbaro
    a horse
    each other,
    one --..
    like a giant tree branching out in the sky--touching his
    hooves..flashing in the sky as he rounds the turn.
    ..micke c. THE CALL---
    its more then you or me..no matter what
    where
    we are
    we are a family this dream is for all of us..
    dreams can cross over.---..
    for barbaro..
    ''the porcelain warrior'', our surgeon from new bolton
    ,who speaks in the world
    and is hear on many a plain
    he is on his way.to the heart of the matter
    ...barbaro speaking through him the two of them--.communing perhaps
    now, with the deepest parts of the remains..'of that day.
    ..the luminosity enters
    ,will enter his heart, as sure as the sun rises and sets every day
    carrying him free.on barbaro;s back.
    ...its coming ..peter and and michael and prado
    who soon will fly in that sky
    to look with the clouds
    for the running pegasus
    gretchen and roy jackson
    will smile through their deep salted tears. elegant and wise
    ,refreshed by all our love , i so dearly hope'
    folding and unfolding memories like a very dear sweater..or cheirshed
    parcel,
    an heirloom
    of remembered whispers,
    laughing, a caress to ,the soft tuft of his mane
    and the thick thick ripple of his muscles underneath that dark
    chesnut..
    to all who mourn the loss of a puppy ,dear jen
    and the pain of the horse quietly trying to negotiate how to enter that
    place..the smell of blood.
    the numbness at the gate when drugs enter unwillingly into the veins.
    ..something about running a race
    'and a hoof shod over a laminitis sore.
    cruel
    beyond the specs of a forsaken heart
    ,the owner of which
    left long ago..
    how hard those hearts..i worry..'
    the track thick in mud..
    then,the kindness of an owner--mrs zito-
    - who figures out how to trace her horse from years aog..
    saving it from certain slaughter
    'that;s what i am talking about.
    so now how to find out about the backstretch workers..i hear roy
    jackson's call
    and barbaro,
    great, great horse of our time
    MAYBE YOU JUST ARRIVED UP THERE
    TO SOMEWHERE
    AND ARE SENDING US ALL MESSAGES
    ...THAT IS WHY WE ALL FEEL YOU NOW
    MORE CLEARLY--
    i am not living without you...
    , my eyes, fill readily
    tears that flow unendingly.
    what a time-
    ''-when i first saw you ,i said
    OH MY..
    ''this is a dream..that is my dream...i needed a dream.
    ..then i found you...'' --dream girls..[jamie fox song ]....
    how could it be
    mice c. the eden farms,. the heavenly derby and the myriad of wonderful
    projects
    tumbling out of houses ,doorways to hearts
    finally open 'for heavens sake
    and in all this
    are those thick crude politicians ,so out of step with what we need----

    'from the amazon,
    i recall so clearly,
    the soft tread of the wise one ahead of me
    in the line we made climbing
    through the soft hill into the village
    ...the smoke of the charcoal and the children running playing tag
    ...with a stick and ac tin can..
    the simple things /
    /the smiling dog ,the kind and wise hands
    ...he rides on grandma
    and then on hawty creek
    ...two different personalities, i am sure
    divining each mood..
    tenderly and firmly
    else
    he lands in a ditch..
    i love you
    barbaro
    i am ready to work
    on to the congress. lets go
    get this thing done
    once and ofr all
    as anna in texas once wrote
    watch out for my flying monkeys..ha ha ha
    and i have a broom .
    in the light,
    martita

    Posted by: martita goshen at February 22, 2007 8:02 PM

    Here is the site Nina set up. http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/barbarosrose/

    She said to give it out if anyone wants to contact her. I feel so bad for her she is really hurt.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 8:03 PM

    I know what Rosie needs to do...she needs to boing and bounce like Barbaro did.I wonder if it would work, she is holding on tight. Geeeeesh.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 8:05 PM

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    Martita You go girl!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 8:06 PM

    Hi to All the FOB's Aunts and Uncles from MHR

    Please let me repost what I did yesterday, through research and perservance, I managed to find the name and contact number of the individual who bred Rosie and sent her to auction. He stated that Rosie DOES NOT show the "Classic Signs of Impending Birthing" He is a QH Breeder and he stated that when he went out to check his mares (30) that she did not show the signs, bagging, waxing etc... next morning he came out and Rosie had her first foal at barely four years old. Remember Rosie and her first baby went to auction due to culling out the herd. Thanks to the FOB's this will be her last foal...EVER.

    ##################

    I know that Rosie appears to be eating all the time..LOL but she is not. She is rustling the straw around with her nose. She has also taken up licking her feed barrel (just like Sally's kitty Lil Girl, something about plactic)

    ##################

    When Blanche informed me that Rosie had poop in her stall to get it out (normally Cathy P. tells me..lol) I filled my pockets with treats. Rosie did not talk to me as normal nor was she interested in the yummy treats I had. Wilbur has been resting very close to her stall as well.

    #################

    Someone asked last night where her water source was. When you see Rosie go to the far right corner in the rear of her stall and you cannot see her head, she is drinking. She has a 100 gallon water tank there.

    #################

    We are anticipating bad weather this afternoon and this evening into tomorrow. My husbands mare gave birth five years ago (we purchased her in foal as previous owners did not want her any longer when they found out they could not register the baby so we bought her. She will never have another baby either, She was four when she had her first and last baby) Anyway, it was March 10th, at 2:15am, raining, cold. She had the little guy, not in the fluffy straw, under cover, but she had pulled the straw back and had him in the rain. He is a wonderful horse, and lives with us here at MHR.

    ################################

    Chickens roam the property from stall to stall and Wilbur will chase humans occassionally, but he has been mellow the last week or so, now that he is the Union Steward for the hens.


    Stephanie

    Posted by: Stephanie Pierce at February 22, 2007 8:08 PM

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    welcome Karen...MI

    Posted by: JOAN ROYA at February 22, 2007 8:09 PM

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    Thanks Stephanie at MHR for that great update!!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 8:14 PM

    Thanks for the info, Stephanie! I guess a change in the barometric pressure could (hopefully!) move Rosie along. If it can give me migraines, I'm sure it can bring on labor! LOL!

    The little QH foal is killing me! He's so adorable - sleeping belly up, again, just like my dog is doing right now. I think they must be kindred spirits.

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 8:14 PM

    Rosie's ever pregnant silhouette remains in view. The chicken brigade seems to be at lunch
    Not much action going on.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 8:14 PM

    Fantastic news about the Illinois state anti-slaughter bill! Hopefully all of our Illinois FOB will begin to lean on their state reps; sounds like you can get marching orders from SAPL, and hopefully Debra and Shelley will be hearing from their SAPL contacts, too. It would be phenomenal to get that bill passed! Also, this development is really an indication of the nationwide momentum against slaughter. And of the Barbaro Effect!

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 8:15 PM

    Stephanie
    Thanks! That was my question about the water. I just couldn't figure it out!

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 8:17 PM

    Awwwwwwwwwwwe Baby Sailor just got kisses from Mom.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 8:18 PM

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    Renee, you might want to tell Nina that messages on her group are PUBLIC, meaning anyone can go and see what is being posted without joining. I would suggest she makes it non public..

    Tell her to go to Management. then look on the right for "messages", click on that, then to Posting and Archives (Edit)(click on edit. then

    Under who can post, should be MEMBERS
    Under Archive Options , it should be MEMBERS.. then save changes...

    I could read all the messages being posted..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 8:19 PM

    Mary L,
    Thank you I passed it on to her.

    I enjoy reading all your posts.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 8:21 PM

    ########

    Mary L. Thank you so much for posting the pic of Shiraz and her baby:) I can't access the cameras, I have dial-up:( I was on-line here last night as the birth was happening!!! I am SO glad you were reassuring everyone as things progressed! I was scared reading allllllll the posts, then I'd see one of yours explaining it all away....thanks!
    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 22, 2007 8:21 PM

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    Renee.. who is running that group? there are not so nice things being said about Alex there..

    Shame on Nina to let that stuff be posted there!

    Posted by: kathey at February 22, 2007 8:22 PM

    On February 13th I wrote to my 2 Senators from Ohio (George Voinovich & Sherrod Brown) and my Representative (David Hobson) regarding H.R. 503
    the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act "Barbaro's Law" Hobson wrote back stating Congresswoman Janice D. Schakowsky (D-Il) introduced it on January 17th, 2007. WE SHOULD ALL WRITE AND THANK HER! Also, H.R. 503 was referred to the House Committees on Energy and Commerce and Agriculture. All FOBs please write asap to your Rep and Senators.

    Posted by: Donna Stevens at February 22, 2007 8:24 PM

    # Marilyn...I agree Sailor's technique doesn't look very smooth...one time it appeared he was looking underneath Shariz's tail for the drinking fountain!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 8:25 PM

    # Hurray for the good news on Gatornation and Red Aspen!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 8:26 PM

    ##
    Renee are you posting bad things about Alex on Ninas Yahoo group also?? WOW I can not beelive you guys there!

    Posted by: kathey at February 22, 2007 8:27 PM

    ########

    Jonna, I got mine yesterday, just like yours...white paint mare, stripe,four white socks, slaughtered 7/14/04...makes me SICK!!
    I wear it on my wrist with the two Barbaro bracelets, at least our Bobby had chances given to him!

    Everyone: www.habitatforhorses.org $15.00 for the band, money goes to help abolish horse slaughter!

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 22, 2007 8:28 PM

    Thank you Alex for continuing this site and providing info regarding Barbaro related topics and horce racing in general. I for one could not imagine a day without TWR. Just remember everyone, Barbaro brought us together. Please stay strong for him.

    Posted by: Ashley at February 22, 2007 8:29 PM

    Equine Heaven: Pricelss...

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 22, 2007 8:31 PM

    kathey,
    I have not posted.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 8:33 PM

    Yeah for Tim and Gatornation!!!

    Posted by: cindy a at February 22, 2007 8:36 PM

    Shiraz is doing sooo much better with her baby! Mother Nature is finally kicking in! She's acting normal now. I feel better!

    Posted by: cindy a at February 22, 2007 8:42 PM

    Doesn't Shiraz look a lot more relaxed?

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 8:44 PM

    EQUINE HEAVEN~ your site is a treasure...

    Posted by: Judy in CT at February 22, 2007 8:47 PM

    Psycho poultry....

    Come on Rosie.....

    Fa Fa Fa Foal, Fa Fa Fa FOAL!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Lori M. in Santa Rosa at February 22, 2007 8:48 PM

    Hey Sailor!!!
    [Couldn't resist...]

    ####
    REPOST from earlier this a.m.

    Don't see anything from Shelley A and Debra, WI, so am reposting from yesterday...The best thing we can do to honor Barbaro -- and Rosie and her
    "watched pot" foal -- is to call our reps. Or, if you've already done so, to spread the word so that others calls can be tallied as well.

    REPOST

    The aides have a TREMENDOUS amount of influence on the decisions of your reps. They need to be our friends!! Just make sure you try to get the name of the aide that is handling this particular bill (House HR503 and Senate S311). Be polite and courteous when stating your request.

    Just cause they're on recess, we are NOT. We got tons done last year when they were on
    Recess, which was almost always towards the end.!!
    The number of co-sponsors has not changed as of today but we can expect some activity by next week. We can make the difference!
    Links to co-sponsors and committees will follow shortly.**
    Have a great day!!!
    Shelley and Debra
    Posted by: ShelleyA at February 20, 2007 1:44 PM

    **Are there any blue linkmeisters out there?

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at February 22, 2007 8:50 PM

    Correntina came in 5th for Matz in the 5th race. She led all the way and tired in the stretch.

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri in SE Texas at February 22, 2007 8:51 PM

    ##

    Oh, how I wish I could see Shiraz! Thanks everyone, again, for the updates.

    I just went to lunch and went for a drive. I ended up at this park, on the outskirts of town, and settled in for a nice, relaxing time while we have good weather. There was a field next to the park. All of a sudden, I could hear a horse! I walked to the fence and there were two horses rounding the corner beside a house. Two HUGH horses, cream-colored with their long, winter coats full of mud. Apparently they had been rolling! I coaxed them to the fence (wish I would have had carrots). We "chatted" and the hour flew by. I said goodbye and promised to return again to spend another wonderful hour with them soon. As I drove away, I felt lucky to have come upon them by chance.

    I think they're pretty lucky too....as are all horses who have a home and someone to care for them.

    Let's make more calls!

    And Equine Heaven, I'll never be able to watch "Idol" again and not think of your amazing story today. Thank you!

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 8:54 PM

    CONGRATULATIONS TO GATORNATION (and Tim, of course) for the "near win" today! Hope you got the race in before this nasty weather started...it's very chilly and rainy in CT, snow on the way!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 22, 2007 8:55 PM

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    skyler, go to my post at 3:55 PM I have a link showing the picture of the Arab mare with her foal

    Posted by: kathey at February 22, 2007 9:04 PM

    Skyler and others who can't see Shiraz

    Shiraz on her owners' website

    Let's remember to make our calls so that all the foals we are seeing born, and also those we are NOT seeing, will be safe forever.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 9:05 PM

    ##### Man I am gone for a few hours and you I get talked about when I am not even here... Been out all day and my husband is the only one that has been here..... Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.....

    God Bless you all (((((((( Barbaro )))))))))

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 9:05 PM

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    Kathey, BEAUTIFUL! Thank you for that, truly a beautiful picture!

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 9:07 PM

    I meant to say Mary L has a link to the mare.. my brain is not working, doing too many things at once!!

    Posted by: kathey at February 22, 2007 9:08 PM

    Just found this on Sally Harrison's blog and thought it would make everbody feel good. A few months ago I talked to a fellow in the Kentucky Horse Park gift shop about John and asked if he was still as feisty as ever. The reply was a most definite YES! He said the last time they had to take off his bridle it took them fifteen minutes and two doughnuts. The ole boy likes his treats! Doesn't get them too much but he also likes pizza. What a guy! I understand 200 people showed up for the thirtieth birthday party.....


    John Henry turns 32
    Posted by: Sally on February 22nd, 2007 Filed under: Racing, History, Horse World

    The same tenacity of heart and spirit which propelled John Henry to two Horse of the Year titles and record earnings, may have something to do with his ability to keep going beyond the average life span for a horse.

    According to Blood-Horse magazine’s list of the top 100 racehorses of the 20th century, the two greatest Thoroughbreds alive today are John Henry and Cigar, both of whom reside at Kentucky Horse Park in Lexington. A celebration of John Henry’s life and achievements is scheduled on his 32nd birthday, March 9 at 1:00 p.m., in the Hall of Champions at Kentucky Horse Park.

    Sired by Ole Bob Bowers and out of Once Double, by Double Jay, the less than fashionably bred John Henry sold for $1,100 as a yearling (his sire once sold for $900) at the Keeneland January Sale and acquired his name because of his habit of yanking feed buckets from the wall and stomping them flat (from the folk song about John Henry the steel-driving man).

    He had changed hands two more times and won his first stakes race, the Lafayette Futurity at Evangiline Downs, when Samuel Rubin purchased him and sent him to trainer Bob Donato, who recognized his potential on the turf. By 1980, John Henry was on the West Coast and in the hands of Hall of Fame trainer Ron McAnally and regular rider Chris McCarron. He raced for the rest of his career under the silks of Dotsam Stables, owned by Samuel and Dorothy Rubin. When he retired on July 28, 1985, at 10, he was the world’s richest racehorse, with 30 stakes wins and $6.5 million.

    John Henry’s hallmark on the track was his thrilling come-from-behind style. He loved to win and on one occasion, when he didn’t, he tried to drag his handler along with him to the winner’s circle. He also had the habit of turning back to look at the toteboard after a race, as if to check the order of finish and the odds.

    To this day John Henry remains the world’s richest gelding. His many accomplishments include seven Eclipse Awards; two Horse of the Year Awards (1981 and 1984); a record of 25 graded stakes; and induction into Racing’s Hall of Fame in 1990. He is also the oldest horse to win an Eclipse Award and the oldest Grade I stakes winner, both accomplished at the age of 9.

    “It’s interesting that in the midst of the sorrow so many of us recently experienced for Barbaro and his team, our park received phone calls and email from some of Barbaro’s grieving fans who just needed to know that John Henry was still okay,” said John Nicholson, executive director of Kentucky Horse Park. “It seemed to comfort them and ease their heartache in the wake of that tragedy to know that another deeply loved and respected racehorse was still alive and well.

    “I think John Henry represents the way we all want every horse to live out its life - healthy, loved, respected, cared for, inspiring their fans and finishing well as very, very old horses,” he added. “Again this year, we ask that John Henry’s fans honor his life and achievements by making a donation to an equine rescue organization, such as the Secretariat Center here at the park. We believe it is a great way to pay tribute to a legendary racing hero, by assisting horses who are not as fortunate as John Henry.”

    Kentucky Horse Park is a working horse farm, museum and equine competition facility dedicated to man’s relationship with the horse. For information on John Henry’s birthday party, which is included with park admission, call the park’s Hall of Champions at 859-259-4272.



    Posted by: Fran at February 22, 2007 9:09 PM

    Senator list to call by state

    Hope this works, sometime I can do blue and times not!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 9:09 PM

    ##

    Marilyn, you posted:

    Skyler and others who can't see Shiraz

    Shiraz on her owners' website

    Let's remember to make our calls so that all the foals we are seeing born, and also those we are NOT seeing, will be safe forever.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 9:05 PM

    ****

    Marilyn, thank you. Yes, we need to do all we can to protect these little ones forever.

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 9:09 PM

    Hola Barbaro Nation

    Compliments to the FOB's: I am learning so much about horses, foaling, and activism.

    On top of that, every time I check in I am treated to a good donkey laugh: "psycho poultry"........ROFLMAO Lori!

    All this courtesy of Barbaro.

    Posted by: Marky at February 22, 2007 9:09 PM

    ##### kathey

    What are you talking about? My husband is the only one that has anything going on with this computer and yahoo....... Man check your facts before you start accusing me and Renee of doing things. Man I cannot believe how out of hand this has got. I left to go open up an account for Barbaro and I come back and get this????????? Man..... I am just in shock!!!!!!!

    ((( Alex ))) ((( Barbaro ))) ((( Rosie )))

    All Fob's ((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 9:10 PM

    Big news: Illinois is considering a state anti-slaughter bill

    Debbie LA's post, 7:53 PM

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 9:10 PM

    Goodnight Barbaro....

    Have fun, sweet prince...we miss you, and love you with all our hearts. Look for you tonight in the heavens.

    Goodnight Family/Fans of Barbaro

    Please remember to call, fax, email..like Little Sailor, Rosie, and others that are saved..there are others not so fortunate to call home...home...

    We hear their cries, and we speak for the ones that cannot speak for themselves...please pass the Barbaro Bill, QUICKLY...

    As always, thank you Alex, and Tim.

    Remember all the animals suffering large or small...the spoken and unspoken requests, the ones who needs a helping hand, a tender touch, and a friendly hello...Like Barbaro says: we are freens.

    Let us stand solid, stand tall, and be so proud that Barbaro's spirit lives through all of us in the House that Barbaro Built..

    Thank you for letting me be a small part of this wonderful world...all of you.

    Have a bless evening...

    ####
    Renee, Judy, and Others...Look for the Midnight Raiders...maybe the will play twister at our homes tonight, also...

    Posted by: JOAN ROYA at February 22, 2007 9:12 PM

    # Marilyn, that's great news about Illinois, but isn't it against state law in Texas, too - but those facilities keep getting away with it???
    Maybe Illinois can tighten up any legislation they come up with so there are no loopholes! Hopefully, there will be a FEDERAL law soon and that will be the end of it!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 9:14 PM

    Marilyn/CA,
    Shiraz is just beautiful. WOW! Thank you for the pictures.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:15 PM

    Marilyn/CA,

    This is actually the second attempt in our state to get this passed. It failed in May 2004 as our House Representatives were trying to get this passed before that plant reopened.

    I am hoping we can get a lot of support and momentum from fellow Illinoisian to get this done this time around.

    Posted by: Dave, IL at February 22, 2007 9:15 PM

    JOAN,
    That will be fun to watch. I wonder if they do the Hokey Pokey?

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:16 PM

    Yes, I think the public momentum is really changing now, so that hopefully the Illinois law can get passed; and since the public is becoming more aware of horse slaughter, hopefully they will insist on enforcement once the law is in place.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 9:18 PM

    ####
    Ruth Stacey and Judy from CT,
    I was not ignoring you.

    Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! :)

    ((((Ruth))))
    (((Judy))))

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:18 PM

    ###Joan Roya, wouldn't that be a sight to behold. Have a good evening, am going to the store after work to buy the carrots, etc. I'm sure they'll be hungry after all the twisting.

    ###Tim, congratulations to all your racers today, they did their best for you and they are home safe.

    Judy


    Posted by: Judy (Ontario, CAN) at February 22, 2007 9:19 PM

    #Yall sure Shariz is doing better with the baby? I just saw her stomp at him!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 9:19 PM

    Keep the Rosie cam updates coming please. Still haven't been able to figure out a way to get it here at work so I am counting on those of you who can "see" her. I love all of the humorous reports about the chicken brigade and the turkey who appears to run the show :) Makes a long work day go a little bit faster.

    All,
    I don't know what has started all of this bickering again. The last thing that I heard and commented on was taking the "silliness" to the forum. I hope that is nto what all of this is about. My comments were related to the fact that Alex has graciously provided us with these tools and we should try to use them as he intended. I do not know what happened to Nina that made her want to leave - it sounds like someone was beyond rude to her via her e-mail address. I hope that it was a troll and no one here. Please all, let's try to keep this a happy, productive place in the name of Barbaro.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at February 22, 2007 9:19 PM

    ####
    Nina
    Kathey is right! I went and read your post myself!

    Please, Have ask my senators aide to come see what we are doing to stop horse slaughter here on TWR

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 9:20 PM

    Martita Goshen, thank you so much for sharing your poetry. It is so reassuring to know that others have a sense of Barbaro as a Grand Cosmic Being bringing us together and doing much more than we can know at this moment. Barbaro lives. And not just in our hearts.

    Shirley
    California

    Posted by: Shirley at February 22, 2007 9:20 PM

    ####
    As Jazz said, anyone can say they are us and they are not.

    It is the internet and anything goes. Unfortunatly.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:25 PM

    SarahFromNC
    The plants in Texas, one is closed, the other is selling Meat to Zoo's. It is all coming to a end soon!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 9:27 PM

    ##### Debbie L.A

    I have been gone. My husband is the only one that has been in this house and on this computer since early this morning. I did not post anything anywhere. If something was posted (which I will find out) then it was him that did it not me.........I doubt that my dog has figured out a way to type. Please do not accuse me of things without facts...............

    Blessings and have a nice day............ :-)

    ((((((((( Barbaro ))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 9:27 PM

    Debbie....FANTABULOUS!!!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 9:29 PM

    ##

    Excellent news about what Illinois is trying to do!

    We WILL win this time!

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 9:29 PM

    Nina,
    Are you sure it is your husband, and not an imposter. They have been here before.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:30 PM


    This site is graciously provided by Tim and Alex to honor Barbaro and his legacy. Thank you so very much, Alex and Tim, for giving us this "home base".

    We are in a fight to end slaughter and laminitis. This takes time and energy and FOCUS.

    This site is not about egos or hurt feelings.

    FOCUS FOR BARBARO.

    Posted by: Deborah Anderson/ CO at February 22, 2007 9:30 PM

    TLC
    Not much has change on the Rosie Cam. She remains a very pregnant mare. Blanche has been in straightening up a bit but very little action from the remaining chicken brigade. Haven't seen hide nor hair of Wilbur. He must be busy with other inspection duties. Rosie moved towards the camera briefly for a drink of water and then back into her position du jour. All is quiet on the home front.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 9:30 PM

    ###
    FRAN - thanks for the fantastic article about John Henry - I especially love the story about how he got his name! Imagine being almost 32 and still feisty...good for him! It is wonderful to see that even after such a long life he is still honored and appreciated!

    (for those who missed it, the post is timestamp
    9:09 pm)

    The only thing that Barbaro needs from us now is that we continue the fight to end horse slaughter - call our Senators, call our Representatives, call the committee members regularly blue-linked here...let's make it happen to DO RIGHT BY BARBARO!
    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 22, 2007 9:31 PM

    Debbie L.A.
    I thought that plant re-opened? If not...Thank GOD! The Barbaro effect continues.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:31 PM

    Nina - may have been an imposter. Check timestamp 5:22 pm from "you" - that's why there's some confusion I guess.

    Linda R

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at February 22, 2007 9:35 PM

    I would suggest that everyone seriously interested in the anti slaughter ban read this document:

    http://www.horsemenscouncil.org/docs/NR-HCI%20slaughter%20pos.doc

    It is a document prepared by the Horsemen's Council of Illinois(opponents of the ban) and lays out all of their talking points. Understanding their issues and proving them wrong is very important to getting this ban passed.

    Posted by: Dave, IL at February 22, 2007 9:35 PM

    ###

    Nina we are talking about your Yahoo group posts. Before you made it private. you last post was to Renee on there saying:


    Don't worry. I made the club private.. No-one can see this but us now......... Renee... tell people over there that I am not running
    this club as far as you know......... From now on, no-one can get in here unless I let them in here.... ;-)

    Posted by: kathey at February 22, 2007 9:36 PM

    That little Sailor, I want to go and hug him.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:37 PM

    ALEX, thanks for the great news about English Channel!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 22, 2007 9:37 PM

    ##

    Dave, IL Thanks for the link.

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 9:38 PM

    #### renee

    I'll ask him when he gets home from court. He left to go to the courthouse. He won't be back till around 7ish PST... I don't think that he would do it, but I'll ask him anyway...........

    (((((((( Barbaro ))))))))))))))

    Thanks Alex...... and Tim for the up-dates......

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 9:39 PM

    #

    scrool

    scrool

    scrool

    boring
    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:40 PM

    Awww would you just LOVE to nuzzle little DS like the lady is doing right now?

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 9:41 PM

    Cathy Potter-

    Thank you for the "colorful" updates. Rosie is going to have to have that baby here soon I would think - what could she possibly be holding out for??? :)

    Keep us all posted, you and Mary L are doing a GREAT job with the play by play for those of us who are work bound with no Rosie cam

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at February 22, 2007 9:42 PM

    Rosemarie,
    Lets go.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:42 PM

    TLC (Laura)
    Rosie is making us crazy. I like it when she looks at the camera with that look of gottcha.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:44 PM

    His name fits him...he sways evey now and then. hehe

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:46 PM

    Every time "imposters" are mentioned, a certain someone is always nearby........

    Posted by: Eli at February 22, 2007 9:47 PM

    Does anyone know what is going on?

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:47 PM

    REMINDER from someone we love (well, channelled by me anyway :*-))

    ****be nise to eech uthur love eech uthur save horsssesssss thankyew for loving me sooooooooooooo much****************

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at February 22, 2007 9:48 PM

    Eli,
    Who is that?

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:48 PM

    ****whoops forgot the "say prayers" part can't hurt ******

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at February 22, 2007 9:48 PM

    THANKS CHERYL!!!

    It always brings a tear to my eyes.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 9:49 PM

    Cheryl Jones,
    You are a God Send.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:49 PM

    Uh, quoting bArbaro as channeled by Cheryl Jones:

    "be nise to eech uthur love eech uthur save horrseessses thankyew for lovin me sooooooooooo much"

    Cheers,
    FT

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at February 22, 2007 9:49 PM

    Speaking of Cavel....the article Lor posted about the sanitation issues was really interesting. It sounds like they are poluting the city water something terrible. Hopefully the supporters for closing Cavell will team up with those supporting the new legislature banning the transport to slaughter.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 9:52 PM

    Cheryl,
    How sweet those words are. Thank you!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:52 PM

    You ought to know Renee

    Posted by: Eli at February 22, 2007 9:53 PM

    Can someone tell me which site has Shiraz? I can't watch at work but when I get home I will be able to. Thanks.

    Good luck Rosie!

    Posted by: Kathe1420 at February 22, 2007 9:53 PM

    Nina,

    I thought you were engaged and your fiance dumped some three weeks back? did you go ahead and marry him? I'm confussed.

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 22, 2007 9:54 PM

    On the Rosie Cam
    Stephanie just asked Rosie to back up for her. She giving her some horsey rubs on her rump. Rosie likes that a lot.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 9:54 PM

    SHIRAZ SITE: http://www.marestare.com/windsongtwo.htm

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 9:54 PM

    ##

    Thanks Cheryl!

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 9:54 PM

    cathypotter

    Anything that works will show progress is being made for the horses.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:54 PM

    PST
    PST
    PST
    PST
    PST

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 22, 2007 9:55 PM

    ###Renee I was thinking the same of you when I saw you here today :)

    ###Ro please kiss bradybroincaritsfurevur for me, okay?? :)

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones at February 22, 2007 9:56 PM

    Eli,
    No I don't, that is why I am asking you.Tell us so we will all know.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:56 PM

    Cheryl - thanks - always get tears when you channel Barbaro. Happy Tears of love!

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 9:56 PM

    Cheryl,
    You just brought a tear to my eyes. Thank you friend.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:57 PM

    ###
    Leslie H in MN ... I need your email address. Please email me at rs281ms@aol.com regarding Home for Life and my brother's fur kids. If anyone else out there can contat Leslie H in MN, please ask her to email me. Thanks so much!

    Ruth Stacey

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 9:58 PM

    ##

    Hi everyone,

    The day is drawing to a close for some of us and if you're like me, you'll run home and watch Rosiecam and Shirazcam!

    In the meantime, before I leave soon, I'm going to make one more round of calls to the committee leadership and my reps (again!). After seeing that little foal (DS), it's all that matters. Keeping him and all the others safe, loved and protected.

    Posted by: Skyler at February 22, 2007 9:58 PM

    Nite Skyler.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 9:59 PM

    ##### Cheryl I will a millionbillion times!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 9:59 PM

    I can't find today's equine heaven update - where is it? I have it saved as a favorite but the only one that comes up is Wednesdays. Am I missing something?

    PLEASE HELP!!!

    Posted by: Dale in Aiken SC at February 22, 2007 10:00 PM

    #####Judy in WA

    I was engaged.. We are now married. I don't really see where any of this is your buiseness........ Keep the subject to Barbaro and the things we are working on for the horses please and please stay out of my personal life.

    ((((( Barbaro )))))))))))

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 10:01 PM

    Oh Nina, I mean Renee

    Posted by: Eli at February 22, 2007 10:02 PM

    Aunty Sally
    Didn't see you on the Rosie Cam today...

    UH OH.....Several members of the chicken brigade have entered Rosie's stall. Could Midwife Misty have complained? They do seem busy.

    Posted by: cathy potter/california at February 22, 2007 10:03 PM

    Dale in Aiken you might have to refresh the browser.

    Here it is http://www.equine-heaven.com/

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 10:03 PM

    Eli,
    You mean Renee what?

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 10:05 PM

    How do you refresh a browser?

    Posted by: Dale in Aiken SC at February 22, 2007 10:05 PM

    That little Baby is tuckered out!

    Was watching Shiraz while making my calls to the reps. Made me speak with even more conviction!!!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 10:06 PM

    ##Good Night Sweet Prince, rest easy in the arms of the angels. Be sure to raid Renee's cupboards, I be she has lots.

    ##Good Night All.

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy (Ontario, CAN) at February 22, 2007 10:07 PM

    I figured it out - I have today's update. Thanks.

    Posted by: Dale in Aiken SC at February 22, 2007 10:07 PM

    Hello All FOBs!!
    Just got home from work. I have been going nuts today because I could not check in with the FOBs during my lunchtime. The school building I was at today is going to start checking everybody's internet activities. So I decided I needed to wean myself from my lunchtime check-in. Geez...BIG BROTHER!!!!
    Ok..so is this right...? Shiraz is doing better and getting the hang of being a mom and Rosie is still pregnant?
    This marestare is sooo addictive! Love it!
    jan

    Posted by: jan at February 22, 2007 10:07 PM

    Cathy - stayed home today - had many things to do that I have been putting off. Am going over later - will check on Rosie and wave to everyone!!

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 10:07 PM

    Dale,

    If using Internet Explorer hit the F5 key

    Posted by: Dave, IL at February 22, 2007 10:07 PM

    Dale,
    There was a post earlier in the day about Equine Heaven. I tried to get on and can't. ?????

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 10:07 PM

    Alex, glad everyone is home safe and Hawty is going to get her Papaya juice.

    Have a safe workout tomorrow.

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy (Ontario, CAN) at February 22, 2007 10:08 PM

    Hi Ruth,

    First..I think you kind of made a combo of me and Laurie H in MN..LOL I know sometimes people mix us up a bit.

    Ruth I am still at work for another hour or so but my home email is twelvepaws@earthlink.net
    I will be there shortly to reply to you. I am sure Laurie H in MN saw your post and she will email you tonight as well, but when I get home, I will email you and her so we can talk.

    I saw you post your email addy and I kept it so we'll get you going with some arrangements.

    Talk to you soon

    PS. Laurie H and I have personally met each other so we trust one another. You can be assured that as a team, we will help you all that we can.

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at February 22, 2007 10:09 PM

    Dave, IL
    Horsemen’s Council of Illinois
    Wish that they would look at the humane society video of a horse being killed in Texas. Think they think, it is euthanasia like Barbaro’s was. We could write to them, don’t know if they would like that!
    It’s money and greed.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 10:10 PM


    Much to my surprise, I just received an invitation to the New Bolton Center lecture "The Porcelain Warrior.. Understanding the Challenges of Equine Surgery," by Dr. Richardson. I have made regular contributions to UPenn since Barbaro got hurt.

    I can't go. It's on a Wednesday and I have to work. I live on Long Island (close to where Edgar Prado lives) and it's about a 3 hour drive for me.

    It reads "Please feel free to bring a guest." If this is transferable - I don't know if it is - I'd be happy to give it to an FOB who lives close to NBC...

    If anyone is interested, let me know. Seating is limited.. I don't think I'm up for it anyway..

    Posted by: Christine at February 22, 2007 10:11 PM

    Did everybody hear about the anti-slaughter bill proposed today in the Illinois state legislature?

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 10:12 PM

    Debbie,

    I think you summed it up pretty well, money and greed.

    Horsemen's Council, I find that name to be a sick joke as much as I find this quote from their document...

    "Once again it will ultimately be the horse that suffers from the closing of the existing slaughter facilities"

    Posted by: Dave, IL at February 22, 2007 10:13 PM

    Christine
    Maybe Alex would cover it for us, if he doesn't already have an invitation!

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 10:13 PM

    Leslie in MN ... Check you email at home. I just sent you some information. Thanks for sharing and caring. You have a good heart!

    Posted by: Ruth Stacey at February 22, 2007 10:14 PM

    Debbie L.A.

    They all need to see that video. They can't be made out of stone.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 10:15 PM

    OMG...this is the sweetest thing I've ever seen. Look at Belcher Quarter Horses. There's a woman in there doing something with the foal's feet. He's lying there so sweetly, Mama is nearby. But there's a dog and a cat sitting next to the woman, and there all getting nuzzled and loved on while she's working on the foal. Just beautiful...

    http://www.marestare.com/belcher.htm

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 10:18 PM

    Regarding Jamie Saunders: Teuflesberg ran a terrific race in the Sanford at Saratoga last summer, beaten right at the finish by a very green and fast charging Scat Daddy. As noted, Saunders is a former Nick Zito assistant; he speaks very highly of her--says she'll be a "great" trainer--and she had great success with two-year-olds at Saratoga. As a bettor, when I see her with a young one, I always take note.

    Teresa in Brooklyn/Saratoga

    Posted by: Teresa at February 22, 2007 10:19 PM

    Good day Alex and FOBs...

    Congratulations Tim and Gatornation!

    Stephanie, thank you for the update...and the Rosie cam! It's so wonderful to be a part of this very special time for Rosie and the FOBs.

    Equine Heaven, you always manage to put a smile on my face and joy in my heart...thank you.

    So relieved to hear that Shiraz is doing better with baby. I was so worried about the lil' guy last night. Drunken Sailor...too cute!

    I hope everyone is having a great day.

    Barbaro...you are forever in my heart.

    "Barbaro has had the largest impact for research by any animal of any species. That is his legacy."

    The miracle of Barbaro continues...

    Posted by: Sandie at February 22, 2007 10:19 PM

    ##
    Cute Picture of Shiraz and Sailor


    Shiraz and baby

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 10:19 PM

    Good Night Barbaro Nation.

    Ruth,
    Take care of your self my friend. I think of you often.

    Lock the cabinets...he is very hungry tonight I heard.

    Barbaro, God will always love you and bless you. I love you. Good night Dear Friend.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 10:20 PM

    ouch
    all this bickering is making me ill
    dang I wish it would stop

    Barbaro's connections would not approve of the infighting going on here. Alex surely does not. I know he has to be just livid over the transpired actions lately. Some folks say they are banned then they return, and/or copy & pasted by another to stir up pot of trouble. Makes absolutely no sense. How is it that these same folks are able to come back here if they are blocked from this site? Is that possible, I guess from a different ISP or something.

    Anyway, we all need to play nice before our playground is leveled. In reality this is not a game. This outlet is getting so much info out there and is providing a gathering place for so many people who want to do good for horses and other charities. Please do not get that taken away.

    You meanspirited ugly talking downgrading Alex folks need to get off the TWR bus and find your OWN RIDE. Sorry to be so vocal. I am very maddened at the prospect of the few baddies outweighing the many good here. It is foul, disgusting and downright disheartening.

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 10:20 PM

    Dora,
    The block was an internet problem. It is that simple.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 10:22 PM

    ###

    Can't forget Rosie with her chicken nurse!

    Rosie

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 22, 2007 10:23 PM

    ####

    MARILYN, betcha a nickel Alex has his invitation already...

    I hope somebody makes a transcript. I have to think it's going to be tough for Dr. Richardson to do this lecture. He's a very strong guy though..and I have to believe his professional community is giving him a lot of support for all his effort and dedication to Barbaro. The entire NBC staff is right up there with him too.

    Posted by: Christine at February 22, 2007 10:23 PM

    Now I'm not even sure who is posting what? Who is Eli?? Renee are there 2 of you here? Is Nina back? I thought she left earlier. I can't keep up.

    C'mon Rosie baby - that little one is ready to meet the world :)

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at February 22, 2007 10:23 PM

    TLC,
    I don't know who Eli is. Did not have a good feeling about it. Nina got upset and said she was leaving. It is her choice to come back if she wants. There is Renee and me two different Renee's. LOL

    Gotta go. Good to see you.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 22, 2007 10:26 PM

    Christine
    I know that Lyn Gilbert is going to the Porcelain Warrior lecture, so she will tell us what happens, and of course so will Alex, if he goes, too.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 10:27 PM


    ######DORA....AMEN to THAT!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at February 22, 2007 10:27 PM

    ###

    Laurie...I looked into Belcher Q's, and you are right...it is adorable. Whatever they are doing to the foal, he/she certainly doesn't seem to mind. Also, Mama horse seems very patient and content. And the dog and cat complete this perfect picture...I actually think the dog is a little jealous!!! he keeps moving closer to human mom for attention. Too Cute! thanks...it is precious!

    Posted by: Therese at February 22, 2007 10:27 PM

    Renee,

    Things can sure get confusing around here. Have a good evening. Think of Rosie and send good "baby" thoughts. :)

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at February 22, 2007 10:29 PM

    ####

    Dale, try equine-heaven.com.......make sure you use the hyphen between words. Good luck.

    Posted by: Therese at February 22, 2007 10:29 PM

    ###
    Yeah Dora...you took the words right out of my mouth. If everyone would stick to what Mrs. Jackson asked us to do there would be no bickering.

    Posted by: Kathy J. - Hilton Head Island, SC at February 22, 2007 10:30 PM

    Pray that Aide at Bonners office didn't check out the site today.
    Thought one plant was closed in Texas. Did it reopen?

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 10:33 PM

    The woman in with the Blecher Q's looked like she was giving the foal a up close and personal check over. Making sure it arived with everything in working order so to speak. Mom didn't seem to mind nor did the foal. Now it looks like they have backed mom into the corner so the foal can nurse.

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 22, 2007 10:34 PM

    Dora and Kathy J
    If everyone would stick to what Mrs. Jackson asked us to do there would be no bickering.
    So true.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 10:35 PM

    Hola Barbaro Nation,

    Forgive me for sounding like a broken record, but after calling and mailing our politico's in DC: I feel the force! Another FOB posted that the momentum appears to be swinging our way.

    Please if you have some time, call or email your senators and reps and let's create more miracles like Rosie. Rosie is alive because of FOB's.......we can save so many more.

    All this courtesy of Barbaro.

    Posted by: Marky at February 22, 2007 10:36 PM

    Renee Antaya-
    I apologize to you if you feel attacked.
    I am sorry for the offense.

    Were you even aware that someone copied a private email of yours and posted it here in update #209?
    If not, I think you really ought to read it for yourself to see where I am coming from. Again, I am sorry for being rude to you.

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 10:37 PM

    Scroll, scroll, scroll...move on, for Barbaro.
    PLEASE
    I don't want to lose this site.

    Posted by: Therese at February 22, 2007 10:45 PM

    OMG Shiraz just kicked the baby!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 10:45 PM


    ####MaryL

    Just checked on Shiraz and the little one....it's just heartbreaking!!!! That is going to be a very beautiful horse someday and she's just being almost nasty to it!!!!!

    ROSIE....if she doesn't have that baby soon we'll need a crowbar to get it out!!!!!! She just keeps getting bigger and bigger ......Did the vet come today to check her?????

    Posted by: Maribel at February 22, 2007 10:46 PM

    YIKES!!
    Shiraz just kicked her foal. Poor Baby!
    jan

    Posted by: jan at February 22, 2007 10:47 PM

    ##
    Ro was it an accident? I read that she is new to mothering, maybe it is inexperience?

    Posted by: Marky at February 22, 2007 10:47 PM

    I think Shiraz's teats are probably really sore. It is so hard for her to nurse more than a minute at a time. It's sad...she wants to be a good mama now, but I think it really hurts. The owner is in now, puttering around to reassure them.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 10:48 PM

    He wanted to nurse and she didn't want to nurse him.

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 10:49 PM

    ##
    Marky
    No accident! Shiraz meant it! Get Away.....
    Poor Baby is not getting any loving!
    jan

    Posted by: jan at February 22, 2007 10:49 PM

    Shiraz and Sailor seemed to be doing pretty well till about an hour ago. They were both lying down, but Shiraz seemed to be having a hard time getting comfortable, like she wanted to stretch out on her side and couldn't, and finally stood back up again. Then Sailor stood up, and she's been snippy with it ever since. Oh, wait, the owner is here. That always seems to calm her down. Sigh...it's really a process for these two...

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 10:49 PM

    Thank God the baby is up and someone is there with them!!!! Whewww!

    On this note I'll say bye for now, as I have a few things to wrap up here at work and will go home.

    STAY FOCUSED .... MRS. JACKSON ASKED IT OF US!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 22, 2007 10:52 PM

    Looks like Electric Mountain finished 8th. Dang!

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri in SE Texas at February 22, 2007 10:52 PM

    ###
    Ro & Jan,

    Mercy, I'll need heavy meds......as if waiting for Rosie isn't enough. Thanks for the heads up
    Marilyn I was afraid to look, knowing the owner was there is reassuring.

    Posted by: Marky at February 22, 2007 10:53 PM

    You guys the lady working with Shiraz said people are calling a yelling at her.....please don't yell.

    I called only t to tell her the colt was kicked, accident or not, just wanted her to know. She promised mom is trying but is still recoverying from the birth and is not acting aggessive only very sore. The lady was chuckling by the time we hung up. Nice lady!

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 22, 2007 10:56 PM

    Hello, all...

    An overload of work is making it hard for me to post here, and also to read...but I scrolled thru and see that we have a beautiful white-faced foal named Sailor--and Rosie is still pregnant??? Oh my.

    ###
    Cheryl

    Thank you for Barbaro's gentle reminder of what we're all about...it always makes me cry.

    Equine Heaven is just the best. The author of this is brilliant. Who can it be? I'll be thinking of the heavenly game when I watch American Idol tonight...

    I saw something yesterday about who is going to be on Dancing with the Stars when it starts in March, and it just made me sad. Remember the fun we had joking about Dr. R being invited to be on it? Regardless of whether he would have or not, it seems like it came from a happier time. I still worry about him.

    But I'm happy the Illinois legislature is taking action! And as for the AVMA: "If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem." If they care so much for equine welfare yet think slaughter is acceptable because of the "unwanted" horse problem, they should be among the leaders in figuring out ways for owners and breeders to act more responsibly in the welfare of their horses, so that no horse ever has to go to one of those h--houses.

    Posted by: Jane in CT at February 22, 2007 10:57 PM

    ###Dora J Crow

    yeah she was aware that it was me :-)

    {{{{{{{{{ Barbaro }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 10:57 PM

    Alex, you post such great stuff. As ever, thanks is never enough. I think you have at least half an inkling what you mean to us.

    #######
    Meanwhile - back at MHR - Rosie is still making us wait!

    ########
    Many FOB's posted on the last batch of posts, and above, about watching some other mares who had just foaled, and there is some concern expressed that the Arab mama, Shiraz, is not letting the baby eat. I was just watching and still the same problem. (From other posts, apparently people come into the stall from time to time and hold the mare, and then the colt is able to nurse. I haven't seen that yet - just watching her push him away. Gets me in the gut.) I just called the farm and left a msg expressing my concern that the baby is still being pushed away by the mare when he tries to nurse, and inquiring when, to their knowledge, he last ate.

    From their website where I went for the phone number, I learned that the colt of Shiraz the Arab mare is named Drunken Sailor; here are some baby pics and pics of his mom and dad.

    http://www.elementsarabians.com/07foal01.html

    LIVING PROOF OF THE LIVING TRUTH

    Hope Peace Love Music & RESPECT - CJ the craziest catlady (Blackie's Mother & Pleasure's Aunt) in Hammond IN, f/k/a CJ of T Bar J (Elgin IL)

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at February 22, 2007 10:58 PM

    # Shiraz actually kicked the Baby? I saw some moments earlier today where she stomped when he tried to nurse, but she didn't connect with her foot. Dang. This has been rough for the poor little one. He must be really confused when Mama turns away from him or kicks him. JEEZ>

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 10:58 PM

    To assure all of you Rosie is fine. No need to contact the veterinarian at this point. If she were in hard labor and nothing was occuring then believe you me we would have the vet here in a heartbeat. To reiterate, our vet is less than five minutes from the ranch and we have them on speed dial.

    ######################

    The dark clouds are beginning to roll over the top of the mountains, and is suppose to be cold and possible rain this evening.

    #####################

    I was out by Rosie pen earlier, I have taught her to back up so not only can I check her, but also to give her a good meeeessssaggge on her rump which she enjoys. Her rump is very jiggly and mushy feeling. Nonetheless, she enjoys it.

    #####################

    Chickens up in the morning, drink a pot coffee and off to work work all day long.

    :)

    Stephanie

    Posted by: Stephanie Pierce at February 22, 2007 10:58 PM

    ### Dave--Thanks for the link to the valuable info from the Horsemen's Council of Illinois. I printed it for my reference file. Quite the propaganda piece!

    Posted by: Dawn in Omaha at February 22, 2007 10:59 PM

    NOT SURE IF THIS ARTICLE WAS POSTED SINCE I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND MUCH THIS WEEK.
    LUV YA,
    CHERYL G

    BARBARO'S BRAVERY TOUCHED MANY HEARTS

    Posted by: CHERYL G NO HORSE SLAUGHTER at February 22, 2007 10:59 PM

    Oh, no...that poor woman! I'm glad she could chuckle. I wonder if she's had any sleep in the past 24 hours. I hope things improve for all of them very soon. I wonder how long it will take for Shiraz's soreness to go away. She seemed so uncomfortable, trying to stretch out on her side, then jerking back up...

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 11:00 PM

    Posted by: CHERYL G NO HORSE SLAUGHTER at February 22, 2007 11:01 PM

    To all.....

    Any day, or any hour for that matter THIS SITE could be CLOSED. Then we will all have our fingers at the keyboard with nowhere to go. What will we be able to accomplish then? I made Alex a promise not to Bicker, or feed the trolls. I intend to stick to that promise. For the sake of this site, could we JUST SHUT UP,(somebody had to say it) and stick to the important things. Do it for BARBARO.

    Thank you Alex.

    Posted by: Cal at February 22, 2007 11:01 PM

    ##
    Judy

    Thanks for that update. The owner has so impressed me, very attentive and she appears to know what she is doing. I am going to trust that whomever yelled at her is not a FOB. Still: it's a shame.

    Posted by: Marky at February 22, 2007 11:02 PM

    #########
    Jumping competition to air on Animal Planet - watch horses do something besides race!

    I posted a new thread at the Forum (under General) about Animal Planet's Sporthorse Cup II, to air this Saturday night, 2/24; it lists the 7 human competitors (6 from US, one from UK) with links to info on each of them). Here is a link to that info:

    http://forums.prospero.com/timwoolley/messages?msg=5697.1

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at February 22, 2007 11:03 PM

    ###
    Stephanie,
    Thank you for the updates...they're really appreciated, and so are you and everyone at MHR!

    Posted by: Sandie at February 22, 2007 11:03 PM

    Poor Little Sailor - she has kicked him three times that I have seen - he does not appear hurt - but his feelings are hurt - he wants him mommy and he is hungry and she is in no mood for any of it. Poor little guy!

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 22, 2007 11:05 PM

    I am still working on my letter to the horse feed companies. I've got it tweaked enough that I will post it as soon as I get I chance. I just walked in the door from work.

    I will include contact info and anybody can send the letter, if you want.

    Thanks, folks!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 22, 2007 11:08 PM

    You know as a group we use to pray for Barbaro....perhaps we can direct a few prayers toward Shiraz, Sailor and the owners. I'm thinking they all could use some of our collective FOB prayers about now.

    Heavenly Father,

    Thank you for the privilege of cams and Internet sites and the ability to come together and seek your help. Please, touch Sailor and Shiraz. Heal the soreness from the hard delivery, help with any soreness from the foals nursing. Cause all of the right hormones to kick in for Shiraz and any grumpiness to depart. We ask for great peace to be this new families portion.


    We ask this all in Jesus name.

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 22, 2007 11:14 PM

    #### Cal

    Agreed....... I am not out to cause any trouble at all.....

    Love to all and to Barbaro

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 11:15 PM

    O.K. folks, here is the letter. I'm basically asking horse feed companies to help out horse rescues after the slaughter houses close. PLEASE feel free to use it, or change it, but PLEASE SEND IT!

    Following the letter is a list of contact info sites. You can mail it, or email it. JUST DO IT ! ! !

    Here goes:


    February 20, 2007

    Dear _________________,

    I am sure you aware of the anti slaughter bills currently in the House (HR 503) and the Senate (S311) to ban the slaughter of horses for human consumption. The passage of theses bills would have a huge economic impact on your company.

    Although figures vary, if horse slaughter were to end in this country, there would be approximately 35,000-50,000 more horses in the horse community.

    Our concern is that many of these horses will need to be housed temporarily in horse rescues. They will need to be fed, and they will have other needs as well.

    It would be a wonderful gesture for your company to step up to the plate and promise to help these rescues out. By donating a small percentage of your profits or a small amount of your product to non-profit 501 (c) (3) rescues in all states, you could give back to the horse community. I�m sure you are well aware of the great advantages of donating to humane causes. The public always loves it!

    Americans love their pets and animals. If you should decide to help these rescues, your company would be highly respected for your efforts. It�s ALL GOOD PRESS!

    Please consider this proposition. It would look even better if your company were to come out with some sort of announcement BEFORE THE BILL IS PASSED. GREAT public relations stuff!

    Your consideration in this matter would be greatly appreciated and I would be glad to discuss with you how your participation would benefit America�s horses.

    [End letter.]


    Contact info:

    LMF Feeds:

    http://www.lmffeeds.com/contact_lmf.html


    Purina Horse Feeds:

    http://horse.purinamills.com/contactus/

    Triple Crown:

    http://www.triplecrownfeed.com/contact.php


    Sacate:

    http://www.sacate.com/contactus.htm


    Manna Pro:

    http://www.mannapro.com/contact_us.htm


    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 22, 2007 11:15 PM

    Amen, Judy.

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 11:17 PM


    I just got off the phone from talking with Beth DeCaprio of the Grace Foundation about the golf tournament fundraiser that I, along with Daryl Smoliak, am planning for Northern CA horse rescues. (Anyone interested in volunteering, please contact me through my web site which is linked to my signature at the bottom of this message.)

    She asked me to post on here to thank all of the FOB for their generosity and support of the Grace Foundation--she said she has been overwhelmed with the FOB's kindnesses and willingness to help out financially, especially, and she would like to recognize the FOB group in some permanent way.

    Currently they have a new foaling barn under construction and her hope is to have some kind of a marker--plaque, or monument (hope I'm not over-stating her intentions by that word, but I believe she used it in our conversation)--to recognize the Fans of Barbaro and all they have done to help the horses of the Grace Foundation.

    I told her I would post this message of her thanks and appreciation--as well as the idea for the marker of some kind. Maybe some one among us would like to take that particular idea and run with it as far as heading up some funding?? I don't think it would be a major amount to do this, and I don't think Beth knows at this moment what form would work best for her, but if anyone is stirred to action by the idea, then take it and run and contact Beth on your own. :-) (I'm too tied up with organizing this tournament in Barbaro's and Fog's memories to take on anything more myself.)

    Again, thanks from Beth and thanks from me--

    Nancy B

    Posted by: Nancy Babcock at February 22, 2007 11:18 PM

    Hi ALL FOD's and mother hens,

    Please read the note from Elements Arabian Foal watch 2007 re Shiraz. They are considering turning the camera off if people keep calling to tell them Shirz is a terrible mom.

    I know nothing about horses- I think we should ALL assume these people know what they are doing.
    Let them care for both of them. They really care for both mon and foal.

    Posted by: trish in NC at February 22, 2007 11:19 PM

    Re-post

    About Shiraz and her foal
    For those of you who did not watch last night, Shiraz had a scary and difficult breech delivery. The owners did not turn off the cameras, so we had what, at least for me, will I am sure be a rare opportunity to witness this procedure.

    I am no expert, but it seems to me that Shiraz's not having gone through a full delivery with normal release of hormones, plus the drugs used during delivery, plus not having been able to bond with her foal immediately, plus all her discomfort, must all be factors in this slow bonding.

    As Mary L and others have pointed out, these are very experienced, caring, and well-known owners of Arabians, and they are monitoring the situation closely. They were in the stall constantly last night, helping the foal to nurse, and I'm guessing they are now on a strategy of mostly leaving them alone to bond. But they are seeing everything we are seeing, so I am hoping we can refrain from calling them, etc., which might only make them wish they didn't have the foalcam...

    It is such a gift to be able to watch all these foals.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 5:32 PM

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 11:22 PM

    PLEASE:
    y'all know who you are: can we NOT have any more of this drama...I can't stand it if we degenerate into another day like we had last week. Once again: This site is for The Barbaro Nation, FoBs, people working for anti-slaughter, a cure for laminitis and for safer tracks. Alex does not need to be policing a daycare center. and IMHO all these terse, little dramatic emails must make him cringe.

    What a lovely gift we have with Rosie's pregnancy and all the other foal cams: look at what many of us are learning. It's God's work. We need to quit acting like a childish chat room. And flame away: I'm impervious....

    BTW: whoever wrote about one of the chickens being the Union Steward just about made me lose it....
    very funny folks in the Nation. jonna

    Posted by: jonna at February 22, 2007 11:23 PM

    Dearest Alex:
    Thankyou for posting the article re: Illinois....Barbaro sweet homey...we are winning the fight one step at a time!
    Love you B!
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 22, 2007 11:29 PM

    REpost: Grandma Bea's address follows

    Hello everyone. Hope this sparks your interest. BARBARO TAUGHT ME TO BELIEVE IN MIRACLES. Believe in Barbaro......his work continues.

    We currently have $1,429.00 once the plaque is paid for (I even got the trophy store owner to contribute - ALL THE LETTERING IS FREE, HE WILL NOT CHARGE US OVER THE 100 FREE CHARACTERS - I used my charm and he agreed LOL)

    Barbaro's $3,000.00 Miracle goes like this. Someone who wants to remain anonymous for now will donate $2,000.00 to our cause for the Laminitis Fund ONLY and ONLY this person says, IF WE RAISE $3,000.00 total. Then they would donate $2,000.00 so we can present NBC with a check for a grand total of: $5,000.00.

    I have been told that if we accommplish this and raise the $3,000.00, and this person's bluff is called and they have to hold true to their part of the bargin, and only then can I reveal who the person is donating the $2,000.00.

    We need to get $1,571.00 by March 17th, scary, I just looked at the calendar and that is 3 weeks from saturday. do you think we can do it. We raised and donated $3,812.00 to the Barbaro fund in honor of Dr. Richardson's birthday. Do you think we can get $812.00 less than that, $3,000.00 by March 17th.

    I made a promise I would not say more than this, other than the bank account number that is holding the funds for this donation - I call it Barbaro's account contains the numbers: 29 and a 1. 1 29, is this a coincidence.

    The life of the dead is etched in the memory of the living...

    There is a wonderful, beautiful STAR IN THE SKY, who carries the name BARBARO that is FOREVER, shining down on us and will NEVER, EVER go away. We treasure that star. Grandma Bea, Ladee Elizabeth & Remington Barbaro Gobee

    Checks should be sent and made out to :

    BEA GOBEE 373 Saw Creek Estates Bushkill, PA 18324
    Please put "laminitis fund in memory of Barbaro" in memo section

    Posted by: Dora J Crow at February 22, 2007 11:35 PM

    Hello FOBs. Just got home from work and had to rush over to the computer to see how Rosie and Shiraz are doing since last night. I see Rosie is still nesting with chickens, but no foal. How has Shiraz been treating her colt today? Any better? I see that right now the colt is sleeping, so there's no interaction. I hope Shiraz is showing the little fella some love today.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 22, 2007 11:37 PM

    ##### Alex, FOB's Barbaro.......

    God Bless You all........

    Rosie have the kid please.... :-)

    Posted by: Nina at February 22, 2007 11:37 PM

    I'm waiting for Rosie to punt a chicken.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 22, 2007 11:45 PM

    ##
    Well said Jonna, and thanks for repeating the "Union Steward chicken" line. Rosie and her chicken delivery team are bringing some much needed humor to the board today.

    Judy thanks for the lovely prayer.

    Laurie we might need an early tuck in tonight. They always soothe.

    Posted by: Marky at February 22, 2007 11:45 PM

    shiraz is letting sailor ninkle......

    oh how sweet....

    Posted by: cindilou at February 22, 2007 11:46 PM

    Oh fantastic! Shiraz is letting her foal nurse. What a relief after watching her hostility last night!

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 22, 2007 11:47 PM

    Jonna,

    I agree 100% and said as much last week.

    To re-iterate, Alex has been gracious enough to allow us these venues in which to post about issues from slaughter to babies. He certainly does not have the time and I am sure not the inclination to baby-sit a bunch of adults. I don't know why all of the bickering has to go on here. We all came here for the same reason - Barbaro. Out of that came friendships, community and causes that have become near and dear to our hearts. Please, let's all remember what brought us all here and keep this a happy, productive place....
    In Honor of Barbaro

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at February 22, 2007 11:50 PM

    YAY, Shiraz and Sailor!!! If you to to the Elements Arabians website, it says that Sailor has been nursing, but is bumping her udder after it's empty and that's what she's been reacting to because it's painful. Looks like they're getting into the groove again!

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 22, 2007 11:52 PM

    # For the past few minutes, Shiraz has been standing still, and I think Sailor has found the correct "drinking fountain." I think they're both getting the 'hang' of it!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 22, 2007 11:53 PM

    What an odd story! A van that carries race horses to Belmont Park had a horse kick a hole in the foor of the van and the drivers saw the horse's leg go through. I know about this van service. I rode on it a few times.

    http://wcbstv.com/local/local_story_052164511.html

    Posted by: Lynda Pellitteri in SE Texas at February 22, 2007 11:59 PM

    Rosie started pacing, and pacing, and pacing, and I thought -- finally we are getting somewhere! Then I saw what she was reacting to...Stephanie showed up and dumped more food into Rosie's bucket. So much for the pacing.

    Posted by: Marilyn/CA at February 22, 2007 11:59 PM

    ########
    Just read some updates on the marestare message boards from the owner of Shiraz. Not her exact words but close as I can get...Shiraz is still sore but is letting Sailor nurse some, but is still highly hormonal and agitated by another mare in a stall next to her among other things. (How many moms do we have out there? Remember that first baby?) She is a first time mom and the bonding will happen but is going slowly. She also stated that there is someone around and watching ALL the time. Obviously not the same person though it sounds like they have all been a bit sleep deprived there. Sounds like a very smart woman who more than knows what she is doing! The kicking incident was viewed but Shiraz was not kicking at the colt but at one of the aforementioned things agitating her. Sailor was not close, though the camera angle made it look worse than it was.
    Hope this helps with some of your concerns. I highly suggest you go to marestare.com and check out the message boards. I tell you, I have learned A WHOLE LOT about foaling that I never imagined I would.
    Alex, thanks so much for this board!

    Sorry for the long post!
    Nancy in Va Beach:)

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at February 22, 2007 11:59 PM

    Nancy Babcock
    Did Beth say when the foals are due? Hope she can get on Mare stare too. She has how meny mare in foal? But I know she has her hands full right now!
    Praying for her, and the horses!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 22, 2007 11:59 PM

    Hi All

    Just got home and went to mare cam's first. Thank you so much for updates throughout the day.

    All looks well with both - will review emails since I left work especially to see what is happening with Shariz and Sailor

    Thank you all again

    Posted by: Jeri at February 23, 2007 12:03 AM

    Kathey, you still here?

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 12:06 AM

    All,

    I will re-post my letter several times in the next few days/weeks, so please forgive me if you see it over and over ! I'm just trying to reach everybody.

    You are all wonderful!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 12:07 AM

    ###

    I hope no one from this board has called about the mare. If so, that upsets me, I posted this to give you all a view of birthing.

    Her owner posted on the message board about what you have been seeing. I have been around mares with foals and none what I saw concerned me..

    Please visit the message board and look at the last message from her. She is a VERY experienced horse woman and knows what she is talking about.

    I am sorry, I thought this would be a learning experience for you all. I will post no more links to mares in labor.. I just don't want this to happen again..


    That is the message board you need to read, I don't like to cross post from another site..


    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 12:11 AM

    ######
    Nancy in VA...thank you for the clarification re Shiraz...I will keep all those things in mind IF I go to look again.......

    I'm more interested in what is not happening with our dear Rosie as she must be getting very tired???? I'm even wondering if she still has labor pains or if they have stopped???? Anyone know ??????
    They seem to have slackened off to me......what does that mean???? Anyone know???????

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 12:12 AM

    ###

    Also that owner says if she gets any more calls, she will turn the camera off.. so please if calls are coming from here STOP..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 12:16 AM

    The mare comas are fun to watch. I was on last evening and watched for a while. Could we take the discussions over to the forum or chat room? It just seems like that would be the appropriate place for it.

    Please don't take offense. I love all you folks!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 12:18 AM

    Where did you get that info from Mary? Did you call the owner?

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 12:19 AM

    Hi Mary L,
    I appreciate you insight in to the birth. I feel you are the voice of reason when it comes to these things. I for one think Shiraz is doing a good job and is getting better as each hour goes by. I have learned alot watching and am so glad that I had the opportunity to do so. Lets all sit back and watch and enjoy the magic of birth and bonding.

    Posted by: Trish in NC at February 23, 2007 12:20 AM

    No take offense taken Barb AZ

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 23, 2007 12:20 AM

    Barb AZ
    Let me try that again!

    No offense taken

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 23, 2007 12:21 AM

    ###

    I have already sent that owner a apology for my foolishness in posting the cam link. reading back I see the calls did come from this site..

    This all really makes me feel bad.. I am taking this "personally" for wanting to help you all learn about the birth of a foal and what it is like and after care. I never thought it would turn into this..


    This is normal behavior for a Maiden Mare.. If she was going to really hurt the colt or reject him. she would have by now..

    NO MORE CALLS PLEASE. shut the cam off if it bothers you..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 12:23 AM

    Thanks Mary L.,

    You have done a great job keeping us all imformed. I refuse to believe that anyone from here would call and criticize Steph or anyone else attending to Shiraz. She is doing fine as a mommy and is just taking some time getting used to her new little one. I have faith that everyone there with them knows what they are doing and is taking very good care of both. I also have faith in what Mary L. tells us.

    Have to go for a while - maybe will check back in later.

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at February 23, 2007 12:23 AM

    Back now to Rosie...she keeps eating like there is No tomorrow...
    MaryL...how many days can a mare be before there is "trouble"?
    Does Rosie know she needs to puuuushhh?
    pst, Rosie girl....let the "dancing" begin....LOL
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 23, 2007 12:24 AM

    ALL! ALL! ALL!

    Read this! I just got a response from LMF feeds! This is awesome ! ! !

    "Barbara,
    Thank you for your email regarding the proposed bill to ban the
    slaughter of
    horses for human consumption and your desire to address the impact it
    may
    have on thousands of horses. I am forwarding your request to the
    president
    of LMF, Marlin Statema, and will ask that he respond to your request.
    Regards,
    Donna Cox"

    Do you believe it ? ? ?


    THIS IS GRAET ! ! !

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 12:24 AM

    Mary L., I thank you so much for giving us the links. As I have said before I am AMAZED at what I have learned. I hope more people will learn also....!
    Maribel, I too, was upset watching Shiraz last night but did my research and found the message boards on marestare and read all the updates from the owner and I feel so much better. Seeing how I have actually witnessed the live birth of a foal exactly one, yes, ONE time, I leave all that to the experts.
    And Mary L, thanks for directing me to the experts. I felt sad watching last night. And now I feel so much better. Just wish I lived a little closer to Colorado so I could visit that ranch! Arabians, I am a big Black Stallion fan from the 1960's...LOL.

    SO ROSIE?? Wish you could tell us when it will all happen! Just keep watching the chickens...and waiting...!

    Have a great evening to all.
    Barbaro, thank you for all the friends I have made and all the amazing things I have learned. You are always in my heart!

    Nancy in Va Beach:)

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at February 23, 2007 12:24 AM

    I'm so excited, I can't even spell GRAET!!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 12:25 AM

    Attention FOBs especially Georgians

    Just got this email from a very good source concerning the abused horses in Pike County Georgia.

    Please pass this flyer on, they have to find these horses homes to make room for the Pike county horses.I hear there are some good beginner horses in the lot.

    Help FOBs I went to message board and tried to attach this Word doc but couldn't figure out how to do it. Could someone explain or could I email attachment to someone who knows how to put it up?

    This horse auction is Saturday and I know FOBs can pass the word around.

    Thanks!

    Posted by: Donna (from Atlanta) at February 23, 2007 12:27 AM

    Barb AZ you go girl, great job!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 23, 2007 12:27 AM

    Barb, GRAET, i mean GREAT job!
    Nancy:)

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at February 23, 2007 12:27 AM

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    Debbie L.A., THANKS!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 12:28 AM

    Barb,
    You have done excellent work here today with your idea for the feed companies donating to the shelters! Its nice to know that something positive has happened here today amidst all of the whackjob bickering activity.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 12:28 AM

    ####
    Thanks, Nancy in Va!

    ALL,


    Please write/send those letters and emails!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 12:29 AM

    Donna (from Atlanta)
    Could someone help her?

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 23, 2007 12:29 AM

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    Joe,


    I don't know about you, but I've been through a lot of everything on this board. You just have to persevere and set a good example.

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 12:30 AM

    what do the ####s stand for?

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 12:32 AM

    Hi, everyone.

    Sounds like it was a good day on the racetracks.

    Fran, thanks for the wonderful article.

    Rosie, foal already !

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 12:33 AM

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    Joe,

    The ####s are a way to let people know that the post is off-topic or of a more personal nature so that they can choose to scroll past the post.

    Posted by: Sandie at February 23, 2007 12:34 AM

    Barb in AZ~ CONGRATULATIONS!!! Great job!! The Barbaro effect sure is in high gear!

    Posted by: Judy in CT at February 23, 2007 12:34 AM

    Mary, you are right about the phone calls. I hope you realize though that you did a lot of people on this board an awful lot of good, for several reasons, the biggest one being that you got some people out of their states of depression by letting them see the precious baby horses being born. We needed that after the severe emotional distress we've been through over the last three weeks. Thank you Mary.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 12:37 AM

    Thanks for the info Sandie.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 12:38 AM

    ##### FOB's can anyone tell me why Shiraz keeps kicking her baby?

    ((((( Angel Barbaro )))))

    Posted by: Nina at February 23, 2007 12:40 AM

    #######
    MaryL...don't take it personally!!!! I am more than capable of figuring out as are many others on this board which horses are foaling on marestare and which aren't.....you did nothing wrong!!!!!!

    It's not rocket science to figure that out !!!!!!!
    I didn't contact her but if she doesn't want to be contacted don't post a telephone number to phone????

    IT'S SIMPLY NOT YOUR FAULT !!!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 12:41 AM

    Mary L
    I am so sorry that people called and upset you and the owner.

    Everyone should either not watch or read the posts from the owner or listen to the information that Mary provides.

    That being said, I see that Blanche/Gertie is back - too funny.

    Thank you to Stephanie for her posts also.

    Posted by: Jeri at February 23, 2007 12:43 AM

    Hi Joe,

    It is great to see that an FOB lives so close to me here in southern Calif. I live in Lakewood.

    Goodnight sweet angel Barbaro.

    Posted by: Meg in CA at February 23, 2007 12:43 AM

    Nina, Shiraz is being a good mommy now. She has learned how to be a mom in the past 20 hours. She was kicking out at another mare in the adjacent stall earlier, and it only appeared that she was kicking the baby away from her. It was the camera angle that made it look that way. She did almost kick the baby by accident that time though.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 12:45 AM

    Hi Meg. We're all over the place. There's another FOB nearby to us in H.B. Her name is Nancy Jean I believe.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 12:47 AM

    # I was concerned about Shiraz and Sailor, but I would NEVER call a pro when I know for a fact that the one thing I know about horses is that I know nothing.

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 23, 2007 12:47 AM

    As I said I read Nina's yahoo forum. She said she told Alex about a bad email she received and he told her he was not a internet cop. She was talking bad about Alex on her yahoo forum until she made it private.

    http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/barbarosrose/

    Ask Nina to join and see if you let's any of you without first deleting her negative posts about Alex.

    Her and Renee were all smiles and laughs on that forum. And others can back me up. She said she would not stoop to the level of Alex.

    I just can't sit here and read her lies.

    Kathy

    Posted by: Kathy at February 23, 2007 12:48 AM

    ## Sarah - I hear ya - I didn't call either as I don't know anything about this bonding - it is finally happening and I'm glad to see it. But when people breed horses for a living - who am I to tell them anything - LOL

    XXOO

    Posted by: Sally in Paws Rump, NV at February 23, 2007 12:50 AM

    I would like to once again reiterate, that I do appreciate all of you watching Rosie. I also am watching her as well on a larger monitor which is located in my room. I generally wake up every hour on the hour and check on her. When it is time for Rosie to deliver we will be very close by. We will not enter her stall unless we see a problem. Mares have the ability to stop the progression of labor, so it is best to allow them this time. We do have experience with foaling.

    I have a question though, are there individuals in the group that would like to be a designated caller should they see Rosie beginning to deliver in the off chance that we are not awake? With this, someone can alert us utilizing the emergency number. Then maybe someone can alert the FOB's? This is just an idea.

    Black ominous clouds are coming up over the mountains to the East of us, and we can smell rain....could this be the night??


    Stephanie

    Posted by: Stephanie Pierce at February 23, 2007 12:50 AM

    ## Sally :-)

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 23, 2007 12:52 AM

    ####

    Mary L.
    I agree with Joe, you did help my mood. I also must tell you not to blame yourself. I found the marestare message board weeks before Belle was due & just to remind you those moderators on that board are lightning fast at pulling a post they think is unfit,so if looking at earlier posts here,.... Alex didn't pull those. They pulled a post of mine about Belle, I pmed the moderator & asked her to explain why, she said sorry & put my post back up. It's not your fault Mary. I think I speak for all when I say we have far to much love & respect for you to put you in that situation.

    Posted by: Susan O in MI at February 23, 2007 12:54 AM

    Dear FOBs

    I have to go check on my horse now. Will be back in a couple of hours and check this site.

    If someone could please help me post the flyer for the horse auction I'd appreciate it. It's concerning the awful story of the abused horses from Pike County Georgia. They still need help. People are trying to sell some of their horses to make room for the abused ones.

    See post 12:27am

    Posted by: Donna (from Atlanta) at February 23, 2007 12:56 AM

    Stephanie,
    I think that when Rosie starts to pop, your phone will be ringing off the hook no matter what prior arrangements/desigantions are made. Who knows who will be watching when really. It will be first to the phone gets through, the rest get a busy signal, and by then you'll be on your way to the stall and the rest of the FOBs will also know. There's no telling who else on the internet will also be watching and calling you. So I think its a moot point. I think it will work out fine the way it is now with your Emer phone number posted there for everyone to see.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 12:57 AM

    Barb in AZ...good for you! Congratulations! All it takes is one comany and I know he rest will follow.
    Good idea Barb!
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 23, 2007 12:57 AM

    ####
    Thanks, Judy in CT.

    I'm SO excited!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 12:57 AM

    Kathy
    I know, I read Her post. And Renne too!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 23, 2007 12:58 AM

    ####
    Jenny, Thank you, too. I'm working on another project, too. I'll keep you posted. My brain never shuts down!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 12:59 AM

    Mary L.

    So sorry there were calls made to the owner...

    I hope no one from this site has called, you provided the needed information for those of us who are ignorant about the foaling process. Yes it is upsetting to see the mare kick the foal, but we need to trust that the owners know what they are doing, of course!

    PLEASE KEEP THIS BOARD'S INTEGRITY, WE NEED IT TO GET BARBARO'S WORK ACCOMPLISHED!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 23, 2007 12:59 AM

    I've never seen, which isn't saying much cuz I just started this mare stare stuff, a Mom horse do what Shiraz has done. BUT, One thing I do know for sure, if that baby was in ANY danger he would be out of there!! Those people are not going to let that little foal get hurt.

    This is all new for me and it has really been a treat!! Thanks Mary L.

    Belle was the first one I saw after Barbaro died and it was wonderful in that time of sadness to watch the miracle of life unfold.

    cindy a

    Posted by: cindy a at February 23, 2007 1:00 AM

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    Barb in AZ...WAY TO GO!!! The Barbaro effect is alive and kickin!!

    Mary L...you have provided SO much information and I personally would have been a complete wreck without you last night, watching Shiraz and her foal. You really calmed me down and I trusted what it was you were saying. I can't imagine calling the owner to complain, as these people most certainly know what they're doing and who am I to question them when I don't know anything about it? I can understand why you are upset, but it's not your fault. Watching these foals being born has been very uplifting, and for the first time since we lost our beloved Barbaro, I, personally, have started to feel a sense of hope again, seeing these precious lives coming into the world. Also Mary, I don't know about others, but I've been watching these cams for a few months now (I receive email alerts) and so you're posting the link isn't what led to the problem. The cams are easily accessible. I'm very grateful to you and all the other knowledgeable horse people here. I've learned a lot and I hope to keep learning. Thank you again Mary L. It's truly not your fault.

    Posted by: Sandie at February 23, 2007 1:00 AM

    Kathy, do you also spell your name Kathey?

    I hear what you're saying. I've read all of your prior posts along this line and have agreed with your intent with them.

    There are about three people (one in particular with the other two feeding off of her) that are simply just poison to this board.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 1:01 AM

    ####

    Ditto Sarah & Sally! Thank you Mary L for the link last night. It was very educational and facinating to see.

    Posted by: Sue H at February 23, 2007 1:02 AM

    ####

    Barb.... CONGRATS!!!! WOW I'm so proud of you.
    Hows Chunky? I bet you were wearing those wild socks when you wrote the letter. LOL

    Posted by: Susan O in MI at February 23, 2007 1:02 AM

    ####
    Susan O,

    YOU ARE BAD !

    Update on Chunky: We have a revised due date: March 2nd, next weekend!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 1:04 AM

    Sue H~ are you all set up for the night in your recliner???

    Posted by: Judy in CT at February 23, 2007 1:05 AM

    #####

    Barb ... I'll mark my calendar for no sleep.

    Posted by: Susan O in MI at February 23, 2007 1:05 AM

    ###

    Judy I have my blanket, pillow and snack!

    Posted by: Sue H at February 23, 2007 1:07 AM

    Just my humble opinion, but the Mare Stare Cams are doing a great service by educating the otherwise uniformed public...myself included.

    Perhaps the owners of these cameras may have to endure some newbies getting nervous about things they have never experienced....(not that I am condoning extreme behavior by anyone) But I believe a greater purpose is being served by having these cameras available.

    But as Always with human behavior, there has to be folks that "blow it for everyone". I hope that everyone can try to maintain your composure and realize that this is a learning experience.

    Same goes for the comment board here on this website. I really try hard not to get too preachy, but I think we do need to respect and protect the integrity of this site and the FOB.

    Thanks for listening to my two cents,

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at February 23, 2007 1:08 AM

    Kathy and Joe
    I could not agree more. I am very glad that others are recognizing the situation for what it is.

    Posted by: Jeri at February 23, 2007 1:08 AM

    Oh Look! Rosie has just finished her big snack of grain, and now she's looking for some Buffalo Wings to munch on.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 1:09 AM

    Sue~ I think we should take a few lessons from Rosie & get our own feed bags! No chickens, tho.

    Posted by: Judy in CT at February 23, 2007 1:10 AM

    Stephanie

    All the proud aunts and uncles are watching whenever we can.

    I know more than one of us will call in case you are not aware.

    Posted by: Jeri at February 23, 2007 1:13 AM

    Mary L

    I love the foal cams--thank you. Because of your alert, I saw Solano foal. Never saw a mare foal before that. I haven't been watching Shiraz but love her still that you put up.

    You do so much good for horses. Thank you.

    Barb Az--eagerly awaiting Chunky's big day!

    I educated two new people about slaughter and rescue issues today and will get materials to them in the next day or so. One knew about DeKalb, the other knew nothing at all. They're horror stricken.

    Illinois and Eastern MO FOB's, I have a young convert who plans to adopt a rescue horse. She wants to barrel race. I told her to look into CANTER IL, though I don't think OTTBs are barrel racing materials, are they? She wants a QH. Anyone know of a horse rescue in the region?

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 1:13 AM


    ######
    STEPHANIE...wouldn't that be wonderful if it was TONIGHT ?????!!!!! I've got everything crossed just hoping and praying for rain or wind or something other than Blanche the chicken to get ROSIE in the mood.....LOL

    ROSIE ROSIE you are mesmerized by the sound of my voice and the clicking of my computer keys....you will STOP eating and START having your baby...LOL

    IF ONLY......

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 1:15 AM

    Well, crap...I feel absolutely horrible about this, Mary L. I can't believe people would call and complain. Sometimes this "miracle of life" can be a little...edgy...and it's hard to watch. But even someone like me who knows less than nothing about horses could see Shiraz and Sailor starting to bond and also see the excellent care they are receiving. I'm grateful for the knowledge you've given here and your calming presence. And I wish I could let Stephanie know how grateful I am for her sharing Shiraz and Sailor with us. You all have my respect and admiration.

    Rosie, too, would have my deepest respect and admiration if she'd just get her head out of the feedbag and git r done! LOL!

    Laurie

    Posted by: Laurie at February 23, 2007 1:15 AM

    I think that Rosie, with all of the food she's been eating and all of the porking up she's undergone in the last few days, well, her internal pressure is getting so high that when she does decide to open the valve, that foal is gonna go flying outta her butt across the stall like a rocket. I just hope the umbilical cord isn't too rubbery, or else that newborn will come rebounding back and smack Rosie in her butt, and that'll hurt.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 1:16 AM

    Joe, Kathy and Others that questioned to days negative posts.

    I also went over to the Yahoo site today and read everthing that was posted before it was changed from public to private. And I copied and pasted what I found. Shameful comments. When you consider all of the stories that have been peddled over the last month, what has been said just don't square up. There seem to be a few very troubled individuals who keep distracting us from the good that this site affords us. I suggest we do not respond to them and if it continues, copy and past what has become their public record and let Alex know so he can block their IP address. We have to much good that still needs to be done for Barbaro to allow anyone to under mind our goals.

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 23, 2007 1:18 AM

    Good work Judy. Good job.

    Out them.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 1:23 AM

    ####
    Barb in AZ your letter to equine related companies re helping out financially with rescues is excellent and I am not surprised you are getting responses...
    BRAVO BARB !!!!

    CAN HARDLY WAIT FOR CHUNKY PONY NEXT WEEKEND!!!!

    TOO BAD THERE'S NO ChunkyCam would love to share in your joy !!!!! HUGS to mommy to be and grandmommy to be ....

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 1:33 AM

    Baby Sailor is nursing and Rosie is eating I believe

    Blanche/Gertie and the brigade are gone

    Posted by: Jeri at February 23, 2007 1:34 AM

    ((((Bobby)))) I miss you more than I can say. You are the Undefeated Champ of my heart.

    ((((Mary L)))) You have my upmost respect...right up there with Alex and Mrs. Jackson. Thank you for all you have done for Barbaro and for your fellow FOB.

    (((FOB))) Stay positive...together we can change the world. :):):)


    (((Alex)))) Our Prince of Rides...you are simply the best.


    (((Rosie))) If your butt gets any bigger your going to need a sling...hurry up and have that baby!


    Pat G
    Proud Member
    Fans of Barbaro


    "...grief is the price you pay for love"...Gretchen Jackson

    Posted by: Pat G San Jose, CA at February 23, 2007 1:37 AM

    #####
    Joe in LongBeach....Rosie LOL !!!!!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 1:38 AM

    ###
    Mary L Ohio
    I could not believe it when I read people were calling Shiraz's owner and complaining.
    Please understand how much good you did last night. I loved watching Shiraz give birth and reading your commentary so I knew what I was observing. I was absolutely fascinated!
    Please extend my thanks to Shiraz connections for allowing us to observe the birth.
    And again, thank you for all you do to help us novices gain knowledge.
    jan

    Posted by: jan at February 23, 2007 1:38 AM

    Hey Alex, I didn't know horses like papaya juice! I'll have to try that with my mare. She likes watermelon rinds and orange rinds, so maybe she'll like papaya too.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 1:39 AM

    #####
    Hay FOBs,
    Has anyone news of how things turned out for GO RAY RAY, the filly who pulled up lame at Santa Anita on Feb 19? The only update in pedigreeqrery.com is that she pulled up and was vanned off. I am hoping for some good news. Perhaps you might know?....Thanks.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at February 23, 2007 1:40 AM

    Good Night Again Alex.....You are one patient, understanding, and loving moderator....and since late May, we all have been with you through the ups and downs and appreciate everything you have done for us on this site. The FOB's respect and are hanging with you!

    My angel horse Bobbycakes...I still miss you...run free sweet spirit!

    ###
    Let's focus our energies and get our work done for the horses!! A visual of horses packed into truckloads headed for the slaughter house burns in my mind...and their eyes looking out of the cracks of the trucks pleading to be saved...
    New days to come toward saving these horses!!

    And.... peace on this board!

    Proud to be an FOB!!

    Posted by: D'Anne in the beautiful foothills of the NC Smokies at February 23, 2007 1:45 AM

    ####

    Kathey, Jeri, Joe, Debbie LA, Judy WA:

    If people are saying they are leaving, why haven't they gone?

    This is reminding me of Cher's farewell tour(s).


    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at February 23, 2007 1:45 AM

    ###
    Thanks Everyone for your kind words. I did apologize to the owner (no I did not mention the site here) and she replied and is such a great person, she really was nice in her reply..


    **Stephanie, how about we have one person for the am hours one for afternoon, one for evening and one for late. for the calls. make it a 6 hr shift and choose one for that shift.. Just an idea!


    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 1:47 AM

    Mary L. Thanks so much for what you have taught me about horses in the past few days. It has been so wonderful to see this new life...it does help ease the pain.

    Barb AZ - thanks so much for the letter. I use a number of feed stores (no horses but many, many cats and dogs) and plan to send this to them.

    Jen - I am so very sorry about Koda. Even though we know that he waits for you in a better place, it still really, really hurts. You are in my prayers.

    Ruth Stacey - I am so excited that you have found a wonderful place for your brother's "family". I continue to pray for them, and for you, as I know you probably have not had time to grieve much.

    Thanks to all of the FOBs. I don't post much, but am calling, donating and trying to do what I can for the Love of Barbaro and all creatures. The FOBs keep me going.

    "One is left with the horrible feeling now that war settles nothing; that to win a war is as disastrous as to lose one." Agatha Christie

    Posted by: Linda M. in TX at February 23, 2007 1:51 AM

    ###

    anyone else having issues with the Rosie cam?? kinda grainy and looks like some interference waves?

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 1:51 AM

    ###
    Linda H - This is the second time in a week you have made me laugh out loud

    Alex - Thank you again for all you do and all you put up with

    Posted by: Jeri at February 23, 2007 1:51 AM

    Linda H, I have thought the same thing each time that has happened. It only serves to verify and support the insanity involved. Poor Alex has had to deal with it. I can only imagine the personal emails that he has been deluged with from this coo coo person. He will probably reach his breaking point soon, if he hasn't already.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 1:54 AM

    Hey Alex: Just wanted to say thanks for all you do....I love the reports on Fair Hill, on Tim's horses, on racing in general, on the causes we care about....Thank you, thank you, thank you....

    Was out all day today working and thought for sure I would come back and find that Rosie had had her baby - Instead i find her still eating...

    My news of the day: My beautiful athletic black (technically dark brown but you cant see any except for a hint of brown around her face) gorgeous charming mare Phoenix is officially with child...unlike Chunky, this is officially sanctioned by Planned Parenthood...Dad is a most gorgeous blue roan....Due date is June....

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 23, 2007 1:56 AM

    Hello Barbaro,

    Aww Honey, I know it’s early but I feel the need to call it a day a little early tonight. Is that okay?

    Why don’t we grab your favorite blanket tonight. It feels extra fluffy for some reason... We’ll pull it high on your neck because there’s a bit of a chill in the air.

    Your sweet dreams are now here. Just waiting for you on the wings of your Dream Angels...

    Honey, your healing is complete and strength will forever carry you through your days.

    Please close your eyes Honey. May you see your loved ones in your dreams, and they see you in their dreams... You’re in my prayers and my thoughts always.

    Good night Honey. I love you so much...Please be in my dreams tonight. I too will be cuddled up with my favorite blanket...there will be room for you. Good night...XXOOxo

    #####

    Hello Hope,

    I hope today found you feeling well and completely spoiled with treats and love...

    Let's grab your blanket and tuck you in nice and tight. The air is a bit chilly...

    Your Dream Angels are here and the most beautiful one is leading the way. (It looks like they left the most mischievous one behind!)

    Sweet dreams Hope. Dream of your little one, soon to be born to you. Good night. I love you. xxoo

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at February 23, 2007 1:57 AM

    ###
    Mary - I have the waves also but not constant

    Posted by: Jeri at February 23, 2007 1:57 AM

    Mary, those are sound shock waves interfering with Rosie's cam...the shock waves coming from her munching huge mouthfulls of food.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 1:57 AM

    Linda H: Made me laugh too....Glad to see you and hope you are feeling well, mentally and physically ...I think of you often.

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 23, 2007 1:58 AM

    ####

    Lisa Leach,

    CONGRATULATIONS...Grandma!

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at February 23, 2007 1:59 AM


    ####LINDA H in Denver ....HUGS to you girl!!!!!
    Are you up on RosieWatch tonight????
    I've got my blankie here and my recliner and a very large kingsize down pillow....
    Think I'll make some pop...corn in hopes that Rosie will finally start popping too !!!!!

    STAY WELL...WE LUV YA !!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 1:59 AM

    Mary L - I too am experiencing some of the waves and "snow" - I was wondering if its the storm/rain that Stephanie spoke of earlier moving the camera around? Or, it could be what Joe said - her eating! LOL

    Linda R

    Posted by: Linda R in NE at February 23, 2007 2:02 AM

    #########
    Mary L,
    you have mail.
    Nancy:)

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at February 23, 2007 2:04 AM

    #####

    Alex,

    I don't have the words to tell you how much I appreciate everything you do for us, for horses.

    I LOVE reading about Fair Hill and the horses that you exercise. I always want to know more...

    As I ask a couple of Fans, please kiss your kids for me...Good night Alex.

    Posted by: Laurie H. in MN at February 23, 2007 2:04 AM

    LOL Like I said the other night...sometimes I think when the picture gets all whacky and distorted, it is probably old uncle Barbaro swooping in to check on his LiL Angel.

    It's what I'd like to believe anyway...makes this even more fun. :)

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at February 23, 2007 2:06 AM

    Linda H in Denver

    If people are saying they are leaving, please everyone let them go.

    It's like the just like the last time with the inappropriate sexual type comments. If we don't say anything everyone thinks what is going on is ok. It's not. It is not ok to slam Alex. It's not ok to have an emotional melt down at someone else's expense. This is a site that has the potential to conduct some serious life changing business and redirection for the American Race horse. It is not a forum dedicated to sharing and solving personal problems with partners, coaches or other issues that should be discussed with a counselor or qualified doctor that dispenses medicine.

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 23, 2007 2:07 AM

    ##### Auntie Laurie H: Isn't it excitng!!!!

    I just love my kids (and their kids....)

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 23, 2007 2:09 AM

    Shiraz is laying by her baby...it's so cute!

    Poor girl, she's been at the mercy of hormones. I'm glad she's feeling better.

    Does anybody know how old she is?

    cindy a

    Posted by: cindy a at February 23, 2007 2:10 AM

    Laurie H: Its not late evening - time to think about going to bed - until we get tucked in by Laurie H....

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 23, 2007 2:14 AM

    Laurie H~ thank you for your beautiful, heart felt tuck in. I see Barbaro in my dreams quite often & always wake up smiling the next morning. I hope you realize, in essence, you are tucking us all in each night. Sweet dreams to you.....

    Barbaro, sweet colt... I love you, big guy, more each day. You live on in all of us.

    Posted by: Judy in CT at February 23, 2007 2:14 AM

    ###### JOE,KATHY,KATHEY,DEBBIE LA,JUDY WA,JERI,LINDA H.(CUT AND PASTE,THANK YOU FOR THE PROOF,I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT!!)

    Sorry Alex,all I want to do is smile,smile,smile while reading Mary L.s,Stephanie,Sallys wonderful posts but you have a problem here with 2 major liars,Nina and Renee. And they are now major busted trashing you on another site Nina supposedly opened after a "death threat"....I dont want anybody flaming me here damn it,Im now angry re. the childish lying. I do believe Nina's type of lying is the pathological kind,my God she veers all over the map(husband,no husband,kids,no kids,grad student,gold medal winner while exercising horses at the "track" then writes and asks Alex if he can recommend where to do this?? claims the founders of Microsoft live near her,she knows someone that is thinking of donating one million dollars to "Barbaro's fund" I tried my hardest to keep scrolling but then Renee pulls her "innocent post,FLAME,innocent,FLAME" gets on here today saying Hi! when Nina had said she was in the hospital....you guys are done,please!!!!!

    Everyone, this board yesterday was wonderfully calm,funny,informative also with all of the horse slaughter people...till Renee came back ok??

    Now Cal and Dave,its great you are protective guys but you are protecting the wrong people!

    No flaming,this is all true, now I want to go back asap to our beautiful Rosie,cams and all of the normal people here.

    Posted by: Nancy Jean/Huntington Beach,Ca at February 23, 2007 2:15 AM

    Linda H
    That was just too funny!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 23, 2007 2:19 AM


    Barbaro, Barbaro, precious Champion.

    You run in cool green grass
    Your eyes behold the sky
    There's no more pain for you,
    And yet it makes me cry

    The price we pay for love
    Alone without you here
    Cannot be paid by grief
    In every fallen tear

    Your legacy lives on
    We save them for your sake
    Your "children" old and young
    The lives that death would take

    Barbaro, Barbaro, precious Champion...for Life.


    ...missing him, and proudly carrying on.

    Call, write, fax, e-mail, spread the word. never give up until the race is won. For Barbaro, for Rosie and her baby, for the Kaufman 400, for little Salvation, for the Fallon feedlot horses, for the white mare, and all of the others...

    Take heart dear FOBs. Even broken hearts can win.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at February 23, 2007 2:21 AM

    Alex~ didn't mean to forget to say goodnight to you too. I hope Hawty enjoyed her papaya juice, but one question on that... the last time you gave her that, you were trying to beef up her appetite. Are you trying to do that again and if so, why? Is she ok? Anyway, I hope you don't slip & slide tomorrow morning on the track-- it's snowing here in CT. And I TRULY hope the sanity returns to the board in the morning, as I'm sure you do........... Thank you, dear man, for all you do and for being such a wonderful host.

    Posted by: Judy in CT at February 23, 2007 2:24 AM

    Hiya, FsOB. I received what was essentially a form letter from CT's 2nd District Congressman today, thanking me for my letter and listing various pieces of legislation that have been introduced in the House so far. Because it was a chaotic day at work (wow, it feels like the "planets aren't properly aligned today" anywhere!), I'll write a follow-up letter to Congressman Courtney this weekend. This AM I signed all of the postcards sent to me by the HSUS Legislative PAC and sent those out to DC. And tonight I received a survey from the Dem. National Committee; I can't wait to list HR 503/S311 as two of my priorities. I am trying hard to follow what Mrs. Jackson implored us all to do in our sweet prince Bobbey's memory. Peace (please) to all here and in the world at large, RMH

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at February 23, 2007 2:24 AM

    ####
    Cindy,
    the website says Shiraz is four years old and a true "black" horse...I have thoughts of the Black Stallion books by Walter Farley. Read any of those? He was Arabian which is what Shiraz is!
    The Website for anyone that would like it is:

    http://www.elementsarabians.com/

    Someday, someone is going to have to teach me how to "blue" it...! Barb? Mary L? Anyone??
    Nancy:)

    Posted by: Nancy in Va Beach at February 23, 2007 2:24 AM

    ####Laurie H....are you OK???? That's an early tuckin indeed !!!! I think Barbaro probably needs it though...all the excitement with the game of Twister and all the practising for the Celestial Derby ...WOW...it makes me tired just typing it!!!!

    THANKS for my tuckin but I really NEED to stay awake ..I'm on RosieWatch tonight yet AGAIN !!!!!

    I do have my warm furry snuggly blanket ...it's really windy and cold here tonight we are supposed to get 2-3inches of snow but the wind is just howling outside...It was blowing so hard on the way home from Sarnia at suppertime that I could hardly see the road !!!!

    Hope you are warm too ?????

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 2:26 AM

    ##

    Thanks Nancy,

    I'll check that site out. Shiraz is a beauty!

    I do like black horses, that's why Sunday Silence was one of my favs, other than the fact that he could run fast!!

    cindy a

    Posted by: cindy a at February 23, 2007 2:28 AM

    Nancy Jean, I hear ya. Its amazing isn't it. I think that some of the others you mentioned (the protective ones) are also highly unstable types.

    Do you have a temporary disposable email address I can reach you at? I wouldn't want you to post your main email address here, not with the whackjobs lurking.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 2:29 AM

    I received this e-mail from Colo Congresswoman DeGette (she wasn't on the co-sponsor list this year and had been last year):
    ----------------------------------

    Dear Ms. Hayte :


    Thank you for contacting me about your support for H.R. 503, the "American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act." I appreciate the opportunity to learn your views and share mine.

    You may be pleased to learn that I am a cosponsor of this important legislation. It would prohibit the buying, selling, or shipping of horses to be slaughtered for human consumption. As you know, each year about 90,000 horses are slaughtered at three foreign-owned facilities in the U.S. to be shipped to overseas food markets. While I don't believe these horses should be slaughtered for human consumption, I remain concerned about the condition of thousands of unwanted horses nationwide. We must expand rescue operations and ensure that affordable, safe euthanasia and proper disposal is available to horse owners.

    Again, thank you for letting me know your views. Please feel free to visit my website at www.house.gov/degette . There you can sign up for my e-newsletter to stay up-to-date on current events in Congress. I look forward to our continued communication.

    ---------------------------------
    I want to send her the booklet that Darryl (and someone else - I apologize for forgetting who) authored.

    Darryl - do you have a problem with that?

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at February 23, 2007 2:29 AM

    Judy in WA
    Save the copys, But I know Alex is so upset with her email.
    And I have ask senators to come read the post here. Geeee Hope they didn't come today!
    We need to stick with the Anti Slaughter, saving horses and stuff like that here. That is what Mrs Jackson ask us to do!
    Nancy Jean/Huntington Beach,Ca your right.
    Have to go. Prayers to all.
    Alex please don't close this site, we will get back to our work. For Barbaro! the Jackson's. And most of all you!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 23, 2007 2:33 AM

    Rosie has her face in the feed bucket.... Again!!

    LOL

    ###
    Linda H. good to see you!

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 23, 2007 2:34 AM

    Hey All, did you just see this? Little Drunken Sailor and mom were napping. Sailor just got up and wanted milk, so he jumped around in front of mom's face in a little tantrum, and mom said "Okaaaaaay", and she got up just for him so he could have a snack. I love it...how sweet.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 2:34 AM


    Hay FOBs,

    It might be nice to write a snail-mail card or letter to the governor of illinois, and to the others in Illinois, (see today's update), who are proposing legislation to end the transport of horses to that state, for the purpose of slaughter for human consumption.

    I mention >snail-mail

    However, a letter of encouragement might be appreciated, as a show of support and appreciation for their efforts.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at February 23, 2007 2:35 AM

    ....
    Sorry, part of my post went missing..Here is what was left out;
    ...I mention >snail mail However...(then continue on with the rest of my previous post)


    Posted by: Otherlyn at February 23, 2007 2:38 AM

    SHEEESH! It happened again...here it is (I think) again:
    I mention snail mail because it might not be a good idea to overburden them with a barage of calls and faxes.

    Posted by: Otherlyn at February 23, 2007 2:40 AM

    ...there, it worked. sorry for the choppy message.

    Posted by: Otherlynn at February 23, 2007 2:41 AM

    This is weird...I now feel like all is right with the universe when I look in on Rosie and she is munching away.....
    Shiraz and her baby are adorable. What is it about Shiraz? She is so majestic...or elegant looking to me...
    I finished reading "Barbaro America's Horse" tonight. I do not know why, but everytime the book mentioned a familiar name to me, I just started crying.
    jan

    Posted by: jan at February 23, 2007 2:43 AM

    Robyn, Linda H, Otherlyn,

    All good stuff!

    Daryl's booklet is for ANYBODY and EVERYBODY to use. Please do!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 2:47 AM

    Debbie In LA

    It's just like last year. Everyone is working hard on HS and getting it passed. We are calling, faxing and emailing, drawing attention to our cause. Just hoping the Senate will take what we are doing seriously and we have people making jokes about a doctor wearing tool belt etc. All of the weird stories that have been peddled....on and on it goes day after day. How in the world is a Senator or even a potential President going to take our efforts seriously when all they find to read on this site is something akin to one those trash magazines you can buy while waiting to check out in the grocery. Traveling with Ozzie Osborne indeed.

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 23, 2007 2:48 AM

    ###

    Rosie's cam is making me seasick. LOL. either the weather or some kind of interference going on ..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 2:49 AM

    ##
    Everyone - just one more time I have to say that I am so pleased that the truth is coming out. I will never forgive her for the rantings/ravings/stories right after we lost Barbaro and now that I hear what has been said about our Alex....

    Off my chest now - it has really upset me. I thought I was the only one that saw it for what it was.

    Shariz and Baby Sailor are being very cute tonight. When the baby tries to run and play I just want to hug him.

    Rosie - We are there for you and there for you and there for you...

    And To Our Barbaro - We love and miss you so but your wonderful legacy will go on - you will live in our hearts forever and we will honor you well, I promise.

    Posted by: Jeri at February 23, 2007 2:49 AM

    ###Joe, and anyone else that is furious re. Alex getting trashed,grrr....mg4alex@earthlink.net


    remember,yesterday was a beautiful blend of all types of FOB's,I read every post carefully re. the serious issues of horse slaughter,laminitis,and horse rescues. Rosie has been so good for us,and the foal cams Mary L! You have been a real blessing for all the hurting FOB's.

    Posted by: Nancy Jean/Huntington Beach,Ca at February 23, 2007 2:49 AM

    Christine on Long Island, are the tickets to Dr. Richardson's lecture still available? I live not far from the NBC and would love to go. If the tickets are still available, please go to the General section of the Discussion Board and start a new thread. I can send you an e-mail directly if you put up that type of post

    Thanks.

    Posted by: nancy r. lewis at February 23, 2007 2:53 AM

    Laurie H. Thank you again for a 'tuck-in' someone wrote that you are essentially tucking us all in at the same time:) I agree! Sleep well, Laurie!

    Handsome Sweetheart:) I just finished reading a book about you called Barbaro-America's Horse...it begins when you are born, Bobby:) and talks all about your birthplace and the people you first got to know in Kentucky...then you are moved to Florida and then....taaaa daaaaa to Fair Hill:) And how you would 'dig-in' and pour on the speed....and it was 'no big deal' to you...but allllll the people around you...well! To them it was a realllllllly big deal:) A Holy Jumping Garbanzo Beans....big deal:) You had a good life with everyone you came in contact with...and that was so good:) I am just soooooo sad tonight that you couldn't have gone on until you became an old man!
    Sleep well tonight, Bobby Jackson...you'll have another big day tomorrow at Heaven's Gate Farm!!
    I love you forever and ever:)
    Lynne-Your Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 23, 2007 2:55 AM

    Judy, who was making crude tasteless trashy jokes about Dr R wearing a toolbelt? Let me guess...the name starts with an "N".

    I'm glad I missed those sickening posts.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 2:56 AM

    Joe,

    Lets take the high road on that question...I don't want to go back to those moments in time, ok?

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 23, 2007 2:58 AM

    Judy in WA:

    Thank you for stating the situation so well. There seems be an issue with certain people not understanding that this is a PUBLIC site and there are other places (DB/CHAT) or other groups moderated by people on this board, where you can discuss going to lunch, sexual fantasies, bathroom breaks, or whatever they feel necessary to discuss.

    THIS SITE needs to maintain integrity - for our sake, for Alex's sake and for the Jackson's sake.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at February 23, 2007 2:59 AM

    ###Joe - no it wasn't an "N" - this was pre. And I agree with Judy - we need to move forward.

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at February 23, 2007 3:01 AM

    Mary L, I for one, thoroughly enjoyed your posts last night. I'm not a horse person (other than I love horses) and your posts were very informative and help me understand everything that was happening. This site is all about horses and your posts were very appropriate. I just got on the site and didn't read what was posted but saw enough from others thanking you for sharing your knowledge with us.

    As far as the personal email, some people just don't have any regard for anyone but themselves. I have been with this site since late May and have seen several wars break out because of people using this board as their personal email making those of us that want to read information on slaughter and other important issues, wade through message after message of posts that should not be on a public site dedicated to horses and racing. When people ask them to stop, they get indignant and then the others in their clique jump to the rescue and start attacking. Perhaps they're lonely or dealing with heavy personal issues. We can all empathize with that but take it to the chat room or exchange email addresses and take it off line. Alex was kind enough to open a chat room for their banter but for some reason, they refuse to use it. People are directed to this site for valuable information and surely we lose credibility with some of the nonsense that is posted.

    Does anyone know how Rosie is doing? I dropped the connection to the CAM and can't reconnect? Probably eating again, LOL! I hope nobody is getting upset with the Rosie posts. After all, she was a Friends of Barbaro rescue!

    vicki

    Posted by: vicki at February 23, 2007 3:03 AM

    Rosie's server is down

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at February 23, 2007 3:03 AM

    ## Hey yall..I had to be away for a while...Is the Rosie cam down??

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 23, 2007 3:03 AM

    HI Alex,

    I had a thought about horse slaughter and horses being sold back to original owners. Not sure if something like this is already in place or not but what about a microchip (such as for dog/cats) that has the "buy back" or "original" owners information so the horse cannot legally be bought/sold without original owners consent. Tough to explain so I hope you get the jist of what I'm trying to say anyway. ha. Just like a dog/cat microchip could be monitored with a company, so could a horse.

    Posted by: beebs at February 23, 2007 3:04 AM

    Rosie ate the camera.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 3:05 AM

    Rosie ate the camera.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 3:05 AM

    -----------------------
    Wish she'd eat the darn chicken

    Posted by: Linda H in Denver at February 23, 2007 3:06 AM

    ####
    beebs,

    I think part of the problem is that the slaughter house will cut out the chip. That's what I've heard.

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 3:06 AM

    Yes, Please let's keep the integrity for this site. it was so nice on here the last couple of days, I just do not want to lose what we have here

    The horses are depending on us to help get that slaughter bill pass. They are wanting us to help rescue and support those that are in peril from slaughter or abuse/neglect.. They can not speak, so we need to do that for them.

    Rosie is a great example of what good we have done, and soon she will bless us with a new life, that might have not had the chance to live if it wasn't for US..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:06 AM

    Hi, FOB's!

    I just finished scanning thru today's posts. I'm only gonna say this:

    My loyalty, my support is fully directed toward the shining spirit of Barbaro, Alex, Tim, The Jacksons, Michael Matz, Peter Brette, Edgar Prado, Dr. R and NBC, KF and those who are putting their love of all life into compassionate action. I am going to continue my work not only with contacting elected officials but to continue educating as many people as I can about equine/animal welfare issues as well as supporting this board for as long as Alex wants to keep this going. I'm going to spend the years I have left working to make my little corner of the world a better place for those who follow me.

    I came to this board because of Barbaro and I'm staying because of Barbaro.

    Period.

    Healing, Love, Peace,
    ONS,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at February 23, 2007 3:08 AM

    ##
    vicki, Rosie is doing fine, she was sleeping before the cam went down.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:09 AM

    #####

    Have ya'll seen this baby born at 1:45?

    http://www.marestare.com/belcher.htm

    Posted by: cindy a at February 23, 2007 3:09 AM

    ###

    Lyn:

    CLAP CLAP CLAP!! Well said!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:10 AM

    Beebs, I put a chip in my mare just in case she ever got rustled and they tried to sell her to a SH, or if we got separated in a natural disaster.

    Are you saying that the SHs never check for chips to determine if a horse is stolen? That is abominable, as if its not already bad enough.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 3:10 AM

    ###

    Please see this thread about Apache (warning graphic pictures on attachment).

    Talk about cruelty!!

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/timwoolley/messages?msg=5712.1

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:11 AM


    FOLKS...we have a howling raging snow blizzard here....maybe that will subliminally make Rosie have the baby????

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 3:11 AM

    YEAH!!!! I now have the mare stare up and working :) It never works at work but here at home it is fine. I am soooo excited!!!

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at February 23, 2007 3:12 AM

    ##
    Joe, Dallas was given NEW scanners to use to scan horses a year ago, the group went there to see how they were working out and service them. and they were NEVER used, still in the box.. That needs to change. .but I rather just stop slaughter and put them out of business1

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:13 AM

    ## I find it interesting how the Momma Mares watch over their foals while the little ones are sleeping. They're 'on guard' !

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 23, 2007 3:13 AM

    ####
    Well, I stayed up most of the night watching Rosie and the other beautiful mares. Needless to say, I went back to bed. After waking and taking care of what needed to be taken care of, I came here. WHAT HAPPENED????????????
    I continued to read. Oh, now I see.
    I know those of you who went to Nina's site, surly saw my name on that list of members. I went back to see just what was being said. I think I posted twice since joining Nina's group.
    I was mortified!!!! I can't believe that was what was going on. I never read any of the posts. I just havent had time, with being here and watching Rosie and the others and home life.
    Just so you know, I do not in any way condone what is being said at her site and have informed her, I will not be going back I want no part of it. This is my post to her:

    Nina,
    I always thought you were a really nice person.
    As I said in my last post, I was having trouble getting on here. I went to the TWR site today. I was "shocked" to see what people were saying about you and this sight. Then I came and read the post's for myself. Something I guess I should have done from the beginning.
    I am so disappointed in you and the others. I can't believe you all would attack Alex of all people.
    If Alex removed anyone, then I'm sure he had good reason. I've seen things posted on that(TWR) board and I would have removed people, but he didn't. So if he blocked someone, I am sure he had good reason.
    I will not be coming back to this site. I want no part of bashing anyone and don't want to be associated with anyone who is doing so. The old saying " birds of a feather flock together" well I have no desire to be apart of what has become of your site.
    When you invited me here, you said it would be to talk about Barbaro and things we could do to support horse issues.
    From what I have seen, this is nothing more than a meeting place for you and your contacts who just do not like other people and instead of going to TWR to discus it, you come here and bash them behind there back.
    This, I want no part of. I came to TWR to get information to help horses, not get caught up in a drama created by those who have nothing else to do.
    I wish you all the best and you find direction in life.

    Sincerely,
    Verna

    If you wish to find me guilty by association, well, I hope you don't, but if you do, that is your decision. I want no part of what is going on there and do not support that type of behavior.
    I hope you will continue to support me as I support you. I am here for the horses and I am here for the cyber friendships that have come along with it. I am looking forward to meeting many of you on the 29th.
    As long as I am welcomed by Alex, I will continue to come and learn what is going on with the issues and where they stand. My hope is you dont permanently brand me as "one of them".
    Thank you for your time and understanding.
    I can assure you I will look before I leap the next time, if I ever do anything like that again.

    Verna

    Posted by: Verna1 at February 23, 2007 3:14 AM

    FOBs, we have a lot of work ahead of us and a lot of work to do.

    Most of us here get along well.
    Most of us are capable of scrolling past things that don't interest us or we don't agree with.

    When posts come up, as they did earlier tonight, it is best to IGNORE them completely. Rehashing them, naming names, and quoting only adds fuel to the fire.

    Previously, Alex asked us to notify him by email of offensive posts and offensive behaviors. He specifically asked that such problems not get repeatedly talked about and argued about here on the site.

    Doing so keeps the problem alive and matters always escalate.

    If someone is trashing an FOB on another site, there is nothing any of us can do about it except IGNORE it. Reposting any of it here, or talking about it, makes things worse and gives the problem posters more publicity.

    Please everyone, follow Alex's rules and ignore the problem people. Let them leave if they want, don't give their ideas credence by reposting them.

    Old Timer
    FOB Forever

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 3:14 AM

    ####
    Susan E,

    You ARE an Old Timer! Are you telling us you're OLD ? (LOL)

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 3:17 AM

    ##
    I still cannot get Rosie cam to come up. Everyone else too?

    Posted by: Jeri at February 23, 2007 3:19 AM

    ##

    Hey I can be a old timer FOB too! been here since the beginning

    Rosie withdraw here!! lol. they must be rebooting the computer and cam. I hope..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:20 AM

    ##

    Jeri same problem here also. They must be rebooting everything or maybe Rosie finally kicked it.. lol.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:22 AM

    ####
    MaryL,

    You're older than DIRT! (That's OK. I LOVE dirt!)

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 3:22 AM


    Dear FOBs,

    If there are people posing as FOBs to Senators and Congressmen, and to other sites, to our detriment, then, when we call, fax, or E-mail, we should strickty and politely just stick to the facts, and NOT identify ourselves as FOBs.

    We should identify ourselves simply as who we are, concerned citizen/voters. We should give our names and districts, and other such proper information.

    If we are asked, or if the conversation goes that way, it would be perfectly fine to say that we support and honor the legacy of Barbaro, and that we do agree with the Jacksons, and thousands of other people all over the country, in seeking to get the humane and beneficial legislation passed...or other such effective words.

    We are a large and diverse family, here in Barbaronation. And sometimes members of families don't always get along.

    So, since this board seems to have temporarily taken on such an unusually uncharacteristic tone of late, I would also suggest that we NOT direct the Legislators or their staff here, for the time being.

    We need to remember that this issue needs to project an earnest gravitas, since it IS literally, a matter of life and death. Bringing them here to a bickering "house-hold" would not make a very good impression, of our TWR family.

    If they need to be briefed with anti-slaughter information, they should be directed to the HSUS website, or www.campaigningforbarbaro.com, or many of the other very informative sites, until we are able to return to the usual normalcy of unity and friendship, with a shared love for Barbaro as our touchstone. Yes?

    Posted by: Otherlyn at February 23, 2007 3:23 AM

    I can't get Rosie cam to work but I am watching Shiraz and baby - so cute :)

    Posted by: TLC (Laura) at February 23, 2007 3:23 AM

    Furthermore, let's not try to Lord over one another with such titles as "Old Timer" or "Original FOB", etc., an FOB is an FOB, period. Everyone act like an adult here please.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 3:25 AM

    ###

    Barb AZ

    I feel old lately, watching the same issues and same tired arguments get rehashed here repeatedly. Every time one or two people act up, numerous other people join in to add their grievances, past and present. A war breaks out, things get really ugly, and one day Alex will probably close this place for good.

    I don't post much anymore and this is why.

    This is why a lot of old timers only lurk now.

    I have LIVED on this site since May 22 and I used to look forward to being here. Now I'm starting to dread it here because crap always starts.

    I had planned to stay on site tonight for Rosie watch but I can see where things are going.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 3:25 AM

    ###
    Barb,I do believe you are OLDER than I am!!


    Oh I forgot, My daughter is attending a big vet convention in Columbus today thru the weekend I think. BUT she has some stop slaughter pamphlets and material she is "handing" out. Pat her on the back for bucking the "norm" of the vet world!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:26 AM

    Otherlyn,

    I agree. When we AZFOB went to see Sheriff Arpaio, we agreed that we were just concerned citizens. We need to be very careful out there. There's nothing wrong with saying you first got interested when you became involved with Barbaro's recovery. When we are out and about, we will give the HSUS site as a reference. Good advice!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 3:26 AM

    ## Gosh, Maybe Rosie DID eat the cam!!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 23, 2007 3:28 AM

    ####

    MaryL, NOBODY is older than you!

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 3:29 AM


    #### MaryL....PAT! PAT! PAT! Your daughter is a real sweetie and you should be proud and I know ...YOU ARE !!!! WE ARE TOO!!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 3:29 AM

    ###

    Joe,

    Not "lording it" over others by calling myself an "old timer". Just stating a fact. Some of us have been posting here a very long time and have been through a great deal together. That doesn't mean newer people are less welcome or their contributions mean any less.

    If you wish to discuss this further, I am at girlcat830@yahoo.com.

    Good night, my beloved Angel Boys.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 3:29 AM

    ####
    (I love you, Mary!)

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 3:29 AM


    Maribel is older than MaryL !!!!!

    Posted by: Maribel at February 23, 2007 3:30 AM

    ####
    Here we go! I'm not counting candles and I'm NOT going there. We're ALL old. (That's a GOOD thing!)

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 3:34 AM

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    Thanks Barb! Love ya too!! Make sure you give chunky a hug from me when you see her.. I bet she is getting HUGE by now!!


    Maribel, you are funny. You don't look your age at all!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:34 AM

    MaryL and all FOBS...Rosie better hang on until we can see her.....:) after all the commercials to miss the show? i will cry....
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 23, 2007 3:35 AM


    In case y'all missed this on the thread, when NBC closes down its Barbaro condolence board - which they say will be soon - they are going to redirect traffic to this site.

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 23, 2007 3:36 AM

    Alex,

    glad to read the news about Gatornation and RedAspen (who I adore...along with Luke, Quick Quest...and, well, all of them.).

    ###
    Susan E - you OK? I think of you quite often.

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    Tomorrow is ranch day. I don't care how cold it is, I can't wait to see all of the boys...

    Healing, Love, Peace,
    ONS,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at February 23, 2007 3:36 AM

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    Linda H. in Denver:
    Michelle in N.C. is the co-author. (The same Michelle who today went to look out her car window but forgot to lower the glass. Ouch! True story. LOL on her!) And certainly send the booklet. We have forwarded it to many representatives and senators per request as well. If you need a booklet request one from Michelle.
    Thanks for fighting for our horses!
    Daryl

    michelle.tolley@wachovia.com

    Posted by: Daryl Smoliak at February 23, 2007 3:36 AM

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    Jenny I know how you feel! Got to get that Rosie "fix", can't miss that birth!!

    Must be having some issues with the cam

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 3:39 AM

    Can someone give me the link to the Rosie Cam?

    I have been watching Shiraz and DS since last night. Its good to see that tonight is going much more smoothly. I couldnt bear to watch much more last night but at the same time could not tear myself away. She almost feel asleep a few minutes ago and hit him when her head went down.

    The colt on the Belcher Quarter Horse site is absolutely adorable !!!!

    Forver a Fan of Barbaro..

    Amby

    Posted by: Amby at February 23, 2007 3:39 AM

    This mare is on low level alert for giving birth soon:

    http://wefoal.com/_2007/30373637/cam.htm

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 3:40 AM

    Rosiecam:

    http://marestare.com/miracle.htm

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 3:41 AM

    Amby: This is the link for the Rosie cam...but alas, the cam is down for now...hopefully it will come back on soon.

    http://www.marestare.com/miracle.htm

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 23, 2007 3:41 AM

    Blood-Horse Charitable Foundation to Donate Funds to Barbaro Memorial Fund
    Date Posted: February 22, 2007

    Blood-Horse Publications has announced that The Blood-Horse Charitable Foundation will donate a minimum of $10,000 to the NTRA Charities Barbaro Memorial Fund. The National Thoroughbred Racing Association (NTRA) established the NTRA Charities Barbaro Memorial Fund earlier this month to raise awareness and money for equine health and safety research in the name of 2006 Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I) winner Barbaro, whose gallant struggle to overcome a catastrophic injury captivated horse enthusiasts around the world.

    NTRA Charities—the NTRA's nonprofit 501 (c) (3) subsidiary—oversees the Barbaro Memorial Fund and 100 percent of the funds raised flow to existing equine health charities like the Laminitis Fund established at the University of Pennsylvania, the Grayson-Jockey Club Research Foundation, and other industry charities focusing on laminitis research.

    The minimum $10,000 donation will stem from a portion of the proceeds from the sales of a soon-to-be-released hardcover coffee table book entitled Barbaro: The Horse Who Captured America's Heart, published by Eclipse Press, the award-winning book publishing division of Blood-Horse Publications, chronicling Barbaro's life and legacy.

    In addition, a portion of the proceeds from the sale of a special limited-edition magazine also commemorating Barbaro, entitled “Barbaro Commemorative Collector’s Edition,” will be donated to Barbaro Memorial Fund. The Barbaro book and special collectible magazine are both available for pre-order through ExclusivelyEquine.com. Customers without Internet access may order copies by calling 1-800-582-5604.

    The Blood-Horse Charitable Foundation was established in 1988 to provide financial support to equine-related charitable organizations.


    Posted by: MJ at February 23, 2007 3:44 AM

    MaryL...I just sent an e-mail to an FOB that I believe lives in MI. I just can't see the pics...WHY WHY WHY???? that poor horse...
    Love;
    Jenny

    Posted by: Jenny Estripeaut at February 23, 2007 3:45 AM

    Thanks, Joe and Sarah.

    I see the site is down but I truly have to see what all the talk is about the chickens. I could not get the link to work a few days ago, then los the link. Going to try again once it is back up !!

    Amby

    Posted by: Amby at February 23, 2007 3:46 AM

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    Lyn Gilbert

    I am staying for the same reason....Barbaro. We've worked so hard and we're so close to reaching our goal. We CAN do this!!

    ####
    Verna

    You are a welcome addition in our fight to end horse slaughter and we're happy to have you as one of the famiy. You have my support and I'm sure the support of many others.

    Everyone have a good night and let's have a better day tomorrow!!

    Posted by: ShelleyA at February 23, 2007 3:46 AM

    Susan E: You better not go anywere!!!!

    I have been here from the start - You have too - Dont you be going anywhere girl...

    To all, ignore the bad stuff and focus on the good - Think of what Alex has done....He created something special because of your input....DO NOT GO!!!! Felix in his tux wants you to stay...

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 23, 2007 3:49 AM

    I'm off to bed. Good night, all. Good night, Barbaro. I love you.

    Posted by: Barb AZ at February 23, 2007 3:50 AM

    ##

    Checking in before I retire.

    Just scanning the recent posts. First Barb, AZ, amazing what you did today. Thank you.

    Colorado FOB's: Regional Meeting on March 14. Time/place to be determined.

    Lastly, I think Lyn G, Otherlyn and Susan E. said it best. I can't add anything else to their message except for this:

    This is Tim and Alex's site, a horseracing site, we've come together to change things for all horses. Everyone is welcome to join in our quest.

    Whether you've been posting since last May or last Monday, if your positive, proactive in getting things accomplished, you're welcome here. We can't let distractions get in the way of our goals. We have an important job to do.

    Soon, people who regularly posted on the NBC site will join us in our endeavors. All are welcome and we will be successful. It is up to us to be a united, undefeatable group.

    We'll do it for Barbaro. And, isn't that all that matters, the lives of the horses?

    Posted by: Skyler at February 23, 2007 3:51 AM

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    Lyn G, Lisa Leach, Mink :) and Skyler--

    (((((( )))))))

    Foal Rosie Foal

    Always Believing in my Angel Boys

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 4:00 AM

    Shelley:

    it is probably because we ARE so close to accomplishing our goals that these distractions have been increasing...our baptism in fire, so to speak.

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    Verna - read your earlier post. I'm sorry you had to go thru that, but we welcome your positivity here.

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    Skyler...you're the best. Coming east soon?

    Glad to see Shiraz and Sailor settling into mom/offspring mode. Just watched Shiraz grazing and she's a LOT calmer tonight and Sailor is lying down very peacefully.

    Rosie, girl, we need that camera back up...

    I don't know if there are tickets for Dr. R's lecture on 3/14 or if its invitation only. I can't remember who asked earlier tonight...you may want to contact NBC for further information.

    For those who are going to the lecture, would any of you like to meet for dinner before in Kennett Square???? I don't recall seeing anything on the invite about a reception, but I would hope there would be one afterward. I'd probably be too star-struck to get a coherent sentence out...:)

    Must get some sleep. Can't think clearly right now.

    Healing, Love, Peace,
    ONS,
    Lyn Gilbert

    Posted by: Lyn Gilbert at February 23, 2007 4:00 AM

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    LYN G & SHELLEY A - I couldn't agree more with your posts, especially Lyn's comment "I CAME TO THIS BOARD FOR BARBARO AND I'M STAYING BECAUSE OF BARBARO!"

    We have much work to "DO RIGHT BY BARBARO" and we cannot afford to have certain elements with ulterior motives drive us away and/or cause this site to be shut down....dont' you see, that's what they are trying to do?

    PLEASE EVERYBODY...ignore drama queens! If someone threatens to leave, ignore them...they just want you to beg them to stay. We have purposes here that were inspired by Barbaro's valiant fight and continue in honor of his memory AND FOR ALL THE HORSES...we need to return this board to a sense of normalcy!!!

    Blessings to all TRUE Fans of Barbaro with PURE hearts and NOBLE motives!
    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 23, 2007 4:02 AM

    OOOPS, how could I forget?

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    DORA J - if you're still here, I think we could use a repost of your fabulous "THE HOUSE THAT BARBARO BUILT"...thank you!
    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 23, 2007 4:03 AM

    Rosie cam back up!

    Posted by: SarahFromNC at February 23, 2007 4:04 AM

    What do you want to bet Rosie has the foal tonight???? No cam, bad weather.... sounds like her kind of night to deliver to me.

    Posted by: Judy in WA at February 23, 2007 4:04 AM

    Update on Rosie Cam

    We are experiencing some technical difficulties due to weather here.

    Thank you

    Stephanie

    Posted by: Stephanie Pierce at February 23, 2007 4:05 AM

    Goodnight all.

    Alex, as always, thank you for another day here at TWR. You are so well thought of and admired. I, myself, have not known many people who possess your generosity and selflessness. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you have done for us here, and for taking care of our Barbaro during your visits with him. Oh, and Hawty Creek really likes papaya juice...seriously?

    Here's hoping the RosieCam is up again soon. We all love you Rosie, and are so excited to see you with your newborn baby.

    Laurie H., thank you for another heartfelt tuck-in.

    Prayers that one day soon, all of mankind will learn to value the lives of all creatures, no matter how great or small.

    Barbaro, you have touched my heart in ways that even I don't fully understand, but I am so grateful that you did. You restored hope back into my life and made me believe again. Thank you precious boy. I will carry you in my heart for all the days of my life. I love you Barbaro.

    "Barbaro has had the largest impact for research by any animal of any species. That is his legacy."

    The miracle of Barbaro continues...

    Posted by: Sandie at February 23, 2007 4:07 AM

    Old or new: it does not make ANY difference in regards to value in the nation. Heck, some of the FOB's are recycled.

    There is one thing that old FOB's know: the patterns that repeat like clockwork every 2 months and that threaten the continuity of this site. Susan's post is an important warning: this site has dangled by a thread many times, we need ALL FOB's to help keep it open.

    Peace to all.

    Posted by: Marky at February 23, 2007 4:08 AM

    Nancy in CT: You are so right - We came for Barbaro and we stay for Barbaro and the other horses - Drama queens and histrionics come and go - We who care stay and stay......We endure and go on because of Big B, not ego -

    Roise: awaitng good news and lots of carrot sticks to celebrate...

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 23, 2007 4:09 AM

    Rosie cam problems: Rosie has planned this - I said earlier in the week that we should have had a pool as to how many people actually see the birth - The norm is there are no babies born with viewers....I dont know how they do it, but they manage to do it with the fewest possible people watching...

    Foal Rosie Foal - with all of us watching if possible...

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 23, 2007 4:15 AM

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    LISA LEACH - which one of your babies is "in the family way"? Congratulations! I always remember your kindness and generosity in purchasing ornaments for Barbaro's Christmas tree from EACH of your horses!
    Nancy

    ROSIE - don't pull a fast one on us and have that baby when the camera's down!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 23, 2007 4:16 AM

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    Nancy in CT
    Your are so right, We are here for Barbaro. And I myself will not stop in the fight.
    Ignore drama queens! In hopes that they will go away.
    I know Alex is so sick of it! As am I.
    Here to stop the slaughter of the horses!
    That's all!
    Good night all. it is late in Lower Alabama.
    What would I give to hear ACN for Barbaro.
    It is not to be so lets stop the sloughter in his name!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 23, 2007 4:18 AM

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    rosie cam back up

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 4:18 AM

    Alex,

    Thank you for all the news. I have been reading every article.

    Posted by: MJ at February 23, 2007 4:22 AM

    Nancy in Ct: It's Phoenix - she is a beautiful athletic hot Swedish warm blood/quarter cross - Gorgeous from the day she was born and knew it from day one - amazingthe attitude that can come from the start - Dad is a spectacularly beautiful blue roan - Baby will be black or a blue roan and should be very very special because both mom and dad are....Its exciting...

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 23, 2007 4:24 AM

    Update MHR & Rosie

    The weather is windy, cold and over cast. Not a star to be found. Sally was over for dinner this evening and while she was here we contacted our vet to give him a heads up, in the event there is a problem. We justed wanted him to know that if he receives a call from us in the middle of the night or early morning that he is coming for a baby and not for one of our many other horses (let's just hope the football team doesn't do something, that would require the vet as well).

    While the cam was down, Rosie was moving around quite a bit. She is pushing her straw around as normal, seemed a bit more agitated than normal. In fact when Sally went out to her after dinner, Rosie did not do her normal nickering for treats, in fact Sally said Rosie basically ignored her.

    That's the latest FOB Aunties and Uncles, wish I had more to offer.

    Stephanie

    Posted by: Stephanie Pierce at February 23, 2007 4:30 AM

    Folks I think that DS is playing....little wobbly jumps and half runs around Shiraz.

    Posted by: Marky at February 23, 2007 4:30 AM

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    And, I'm older than all of you!! But, that's OK. I'm very immature! LOL

    Posted by: annie in TX at February 23, 2007 4:32 AM

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    LYN G - I received two invitations to the lecture today...maybe because I've contributed to two different funds at NBC? I wish I could attend, but I'm going out on a limb financially to attend the April 29th gathering, so I'm counting on you (and maybe Alex) to be our "roving reporters" at the lecture. PORCELAIN WARRIORS indeed!

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 23, 2007 4:32 AM

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    ANNIE - welcome home! Please stay - we need your sanity...and by the way, sanity is great but maturity is highly overrated!
    ...a proudly immature 60 year-old - LOL!
    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 23, 2007 4:34 AM

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    ShellyA & Lyn Gilbert,
    Thank you. I feel better. I have had such a heavy heart since I read what was going on. How could I have been so stupid. Not here long enough to know all the drama queens.
    Now that Rosie is back up, I am going off to watch her, I dont know that watching her stand in one place, now that the cleaning crew have gone home will do much. Maybe the low alert mare will come thru, that always brings a tear and a smile.

    ####

    MaryL, I got the impression you to felt a bit guilty by association yourself. You did nothing wrong. You were just trying to spread the joy and wonder of a new life, which as so many have said, helped them so much. You did a fantastic job last night helping everyone understand what was going on, I was there for all of it, so I know. You enlightened me to many things I did not know and for that I thank you. You are a good person with a good heart and good intentions. Bless you.

    Now off to watch good ole Rosie. I hope the signs mentioned are true, that girl is wearing me down.
    Love to you all and thank you for your support. I have no doubt I will face the wrath, for what I did by leaving and by saying what I did, but I intend to do as was perfectly said above. I will not respond and just scroll on.

    Verna

    Posted by: Verna1 at February 23, 2007 4:35 AM

    Stephanie: Thanks for the update.... Rosie is going to do it on her own sweet time, when she can make sure the foal cam is out and she has the fewest possible viewers -

    How does she know? Who knows, but somehow she knows and is plotting for privacy...

    Foal Rosie Foal - Just dont forget to nurse....

    Looking forward to baby Rosee henever he/she comes....

    Lisa in Colorado

    Posted by: Lisa Leach at February 23, 2007 4:36 AM

    I just caught part of a "Sanford and Son" rerun on TV Land. The plot was: Fred buys an old, used up OTTB thinking he can sell the horse to a breeder and make a fortune. Fred, Lamont and Grady look up the horse in a book and discover that he was a stakes winning big earner in his day before being pulled up in a race and being retired. It turns out the horse is also a gelding.

    So, Fred puts pants on the horse hoping to fool a prospective buyer--which works for five seconds. The breeder at first refuses to buy at all, then offers $25. At this point I'm feeling sick to my stomach...Then the buyer recognizes the horse and "because I'm a sentimentalist", buys him for $35 so General Lee can "live out his days in a pasture". As he's leading General Lee away, the buyer's last words are "Come on, General Lee, you're going home".

    Nice happy ending. Let's keep up Bobby's work and make a nice happy ending for many, many horses.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 4:39 AM

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    Teehee Annie I am so old I forgot what immature means

    Posted by: Marky at February 23, 2007 4:40 AM

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    Verna Thank you for that. I will still continue to entertain and answer questions as needed. Knowledge is power and understanding. There is nothing like watching a new life come into the world to refresh one's soul ..


    Rosie sure has kept me company in my little sleep night (nope not because of watching. lol)


    maybe Rosie likes to foal in bad weather??!!

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 4:50 AM

    ####Debbie L.A.

    Thanks for calling out from 3000 miles away. It was appreciated. Will try tomorrow and maybe someone will be able to help.

    These Pike County horses still need a place to recover and apparently some people here are anxious to give them a happy home.

    Thanks Alex for your updates. Love reading them.

    Posted by: Donna (from Atlanta) at February 23, 2007 4:55 AM

    Hello everyone I'm from Marestare and I currently have three mares on cam. I just wanted to ask you all kindly to please not call our owners. Sometimes foaling out a mare does not go as planned, and problems arise. You can be assured that we are all very experienced and love our mares very much. We do appreciate the concern...but it is just too much!!

    Mary L. you have been asked nicely to stop taking pictures and information from our message boards. We have the message boards for our family and friends, where we discuss our mares and their foalings ect. We do not want our content and information spread and cross posted. Please respect our wishes. You are all more than welcome to join our boards....that is why they were created....for others to share in the most awesome adventure.....FOALING!!! But please do not take our pictures and private details about our mares and post them all over!! These cameras and the bandwidth are expensive and it is a luxury for us to keep an eye on our mares. Just know if this continues to happen we will be forced to "password" our cameras. Thanks for your understanding in this matter!!!!

    Posted by: Janice at February 23, 2007 4:55 AM

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    Verna FOB's tend to have big hearts, if people take advantage of that shame on them not you. The nation needs all who love animals and adore horses........besides at this rate we need to hang on to FOB's: this Rosie watch might land many of us in rehab.

    Posted by: Marky at February 23, 2007 4:56 AM

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    Yep, Marky, know what you mean. My senior moments are turning into weeks!!!

    Hay, Nancy! I've been here . . . lurking. Things got so confusing here for a while that I couldn't figure out how to jump in. So I just didn't. Quite the melodrama!

    Oh well, you all, we've been through stuff like this before. We're survivors. And, just look, some great new additions to the crew on the life raft! Life is good! We WILL meet our objectives!!

    BTW, thanks Mary L for the truly wonderful commentary on last night's difficult birth. I know just enough to be dangerous . . . your "notes" really filled in some mammoth holes in my "data base." Much appreciated.

    Posted by: annie in TX at February 23, 2007 4:56 AM

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    VERNA - you have my sincere admiration for your courageous post! Stay with us and help continue to fight for what's right in Barbaro's name...and by the way, nobody feels you were stupid! Welcome home!
    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 23, 2007 4:57 AM

    Wow, lots of familiar names here tonight. Those of us who stay to continue the good that can be done by FOBs. It's a shame that we have to hide the fact that we are FOBs and NOT tell certain people about this site . . . something wrong with that, don't you think?

    Anyway, I'm still here. Been here a loooooong time. And I do what I can to "Do Right By Barbaro". I'm not perfect by a long shot, sometimes I curse, sometimes people misunderstand my intentions, but you can count on one thing for sure - I tell the truth. And if you need help, I'll do whatever I can for you.

    I do not consider those who use this board to fullfil their own needs (whatever the heck those needs are - not worth trying to figure them out!)to be FOBs at all.

    So for those of you, old and new, who are here for the "right" reasons, I'm proud to be a fellow FOB.

    What's my point? Maybe more of US need to post more often and TAKE THIS BOARD BACK from the users and abusers!

    Glenda Jo

    Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at February 23, 2007 5:00 AM

    ###Verna, no way did i ever get the feeling that you were part of that bunch. You fit in great here!

    gee thanks FOB's, nice to read all of you taking the "high road" while I flamed the people who were attacking Alex. Nothing I will enjoy better then this board without Renee and Nina. Go back and read the posts from ALOT of us old timers who confronted them and have proof,Judy from WA cut and pasted what they were doing.

    How about sticking up for some of us? How many former FOB's have probably left in the last month because of their wierd stuff and attacks? If anybody comes back,like Linda H did tonight and said the EXACT SAME THING,will you then say thanks?? You are projecting your awesome qualities on everyone,deserving or not,geeze....

    Remember, humor is just as important here as horse slaughter.

    Posted by: Nancy Jean/Huntington Beach,Ca at February 23, 2007 5:01 AM

    Janice,

    Miracle Horse Rescue is also on Mare Stare, and they have asked for us to call them when their foal is born, just in case they are sleeping when it happens. We will certainly not call other barns though, as you wish. Which barn are you representing?

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 5:04 AM

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    KEN Z - doesn't look like you're going to post tonight, but I just needed to tell you that your post from Tuesday late-night was, in my opinion, your best and most meaningful ever. I was sick that evening and went to sleep early...so Wednesday morning I checked the previous night's posts to see what I had missed...and what a blessing to hear from you again! ...looking forward to more of your eloquence!
    Nancy

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 23, 2007 5:04 AM

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    Mary L

    Thank you for all you have done. You have kept us in touch and given so much information. I know I don't write much on here, so I'm just another Kathy. I read the article you posted yesterday from the UK about foals and how they are born, so now I picture the foal and its position getting ready for birth, and I hope it's soon for her, but I will probably miss it when it does happen because I'll either be at work or in bed. I guess that's the miracle of life. As long as Rosie stays healthy and her baby is healthy, too! But thank you, you have been a wealth of information and comfort, too, as we wait.

    Posted by: KathyinVA at February 23, 2007 5:13 AM

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    To All...
    Thank you so much for your support.
    Yes Nancy, when I'm here I feel home.

    Hope that storm doesnt take out the camera and brings on the babies, especially Rosies.

    Love Verna

    Posted by: Verna1 at February 23, 2007 5:14 AM

    ###
    Janice. I never took pictures or copied information from the message board over there. The pictures were snapshots using my computer, and clearly showed that in the "snap shot" but I have removed them so not to cause any riffs. I guided people to the message board to see the explanation on the Maiden mare posted. If information was "copied" from there to here, it was not so.

    If you read my earlier posts you will see i have said I will furnish no more links because of that situation. What I thought would be a better understanding of foaling for those that never have seen it, turned out to be what it was. I did send a apology to the owner and she was very gracious..


    I meant no harm at all. was trying to help educate. and it turned into what it did..

    Sounds like my life at times. wasn't for bad luck I would have not luck at all.

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 5:21 AM

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    Joe she was talking about people calling outside of the foaling stuff. Like what happened today.


    Let's not argue with her okay? not what we are here for..

    I think I will take a break from here for a bit also..

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 5:25 AM

    Mary L.,

    I, like so many others here, found your posts to be helpful and illuminating. Again and again you tried to reassure the people who were getting upset about this or that, that everything was okay. You explained what was going on very clearly. If certain people took matters into their own hands and made phone calls, that certainly is not your fault.

    I think it was inappropriate for Janice to direct her comments to you. If she is going to "name names", then she should be naming the people who made the inappropriate (even if well-intentioned) phone calls!!!

    You have no reason to feel bad about any of this and I hope you know that.

    Glenda Jo

    Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at February 23, 2007 5:34 AM

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    Thanks Glenda, I looked thru my posts today and there was no copying of messages from their site at all from me. Information I was giving out was from my experiences also and observing the mare and foal. Heck I was up till 5am watching her and Rosie.

    The pictures I had was doing snapshots on my computer like those on the forum of Rosie, same thing.

    That blew me away when she said I was asked, but that was the first time I ever heard or seen of that request. Heck I even asked people not to call .

    Oh well, live and learn

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 5:44 AM

    Mary L.
    Did I just see something. Getting to go to bed myself, but did Rosie just break some water? I though I saw a large leak unless it was my computer.
    Kathy

    Posted by: KathyinVA at February 23, 2007 5:44 AM

    High Alert !!!

    http://wefoal.com/_2007/30373637/cam.htm

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 5:48 AM

    Mary L.,

    Weeeeeellllll, when I first read her post I thought it was someone "jerking you around" to try to upset you - not really someone from Marestare. Am I paranoid? Maybe. Maybe not.

    Anyway, your posts are appreciated so keep 'em comin'. (But maybe get some sleep!! LOL)

    I need to get to bed myself - this morning I slept through my alarm clock BLARING country music and woke up at 9:14 for a job I start at 9:30....Yikes. I discoved that in a pinch, baby wipes work pretty well when there is absolutely NO time for a shower! And thank God for wigs, LOL.

    Take care,
    Glenda Jo

    Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at February 23, 2007 5:51 AM

    Its a Baby !!!

    http://wefoal.com/_2007/30373637/cam.htm

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 5:54 AM

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    Nancy Jean,
    I wouldn't hurt you for the world and I'm sorry if I did. Just trying to keep things from escalating here--"don't feed the (misfits who dwell under bridges)".

    ((( Nancy Jean )))

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 5:55 AM

    Kathy,

    I think Rosie was just relieving herself. I have noticed she likes to turn her back to the camera whenever she relieves herself. Is this the equine equivalent of giving someone the finger?

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 5:56 AM

    Susan E.,

    Maybe she's just shy....

    G.

    Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at February 23, 2007 5:59 AM


    ### Linda H.,

    Good to see you here. You made me laugh with the Cher comment.

    I think Diane DeGette was one of the only (if not THE only) reps who supported the anti-slaughter bill last year. I am ashamed of the poor showing from Colorado.

    I guess we are in for high wind and no snow this Sat. Is that what you are expecting? (Of course we can always expect the unexpected in CO).

    ###ALL: I love the late-night Rosie watches. It's like staying up to watch a late movie with friends.

    ###Mary L., thanks so much for the education. Sorry we messed up (again).

    Alex, thank you so very much for our "home base".

    Good night sweet Barbaro.

    Posted by: Deborah Anderson/ CO at February 23, 2007 5:59 AM

    Oh no,poor Mary L! You said that perfectly Glenda Jo. Im so sorry, Mary what you did was wonderful. LOL I cant believe people were calling them, dont they understand they know what they are doing? If only that delivery had gone right and the momma had acted like the donkey.

    Go Rosie!

    Posted by: Nancy Jean/Huntington Beach,Ca at February 23, 2007 6:01 AM

    Mary L, I was not arguing with Janice. In fact, I think that was a troll.

    Go get some rest Mary.

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 6:02 AM

    Glenda,

    LOL! Like Kathy, I too thought her water had broken.

    I'd like to see her foal and she must be miserable, but I kind of hope it isn't tonight since the weather is bad there.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 6:03 AM

    my 13 year old son who loves Rosie watching has solemnly christened her site "the butt cam" LOL

    Posted by: Nancy Jean/Huntington Beach,Ca at February 23, 2007 6:03 AM

    Well, while you were all bickering, you missed this birth 10 minutes ago:

    http://wefoal.com/_2007/30373637/cam.htm

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 6:04 AM

    I can't see much but squiggles. Time to sleep.

    Good night, Barbaro Nation.

    Good night, my beloved Angel Boys.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 6:05 AM

    ###
    Mary L
    No, I'm not somebody jerking you around. I really did think that I saw something happen with Rosie before I was ready to call it a night and go to bed. I was getting ready to shut my computer down and thought I saw something leak, but I'm so sorry if I was wrong. The picture has been really grainy tonight. I truly have just been someone waiting with all of the rest of you.

    Posted by: KathyinVA at February 23, 2007 6:05 AM

    Well, while you were all bickering, you missed this birth 10 minutes ago:

    http://wefoal.com/_2007/30373637/cam.htm

    Posted by: Joe in Long Beach, CA at February 23, 2007 6:04 AM

    ###Joe,
    Who's "bickering"??? I know I'm tired, but I think I'd know it if I were having an argument with someone.... :}

    G.


    Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at February 23, 2007 6:09 AM

    Oh, Mary L., Glenda, Susan E., and everyone else, I'm so sorry. So she just went to the bathroom again. She has been eating and drinking alot. I'm so embarassed and sorry. I've been waiting since Sat. and I'm getting tired, but not as tired as Rosie is. Thanks for not thinking I'm a troll and jerking everyone around.
    Kathy

    Posted by: KathyinVA at February 23, 2007 6:11 AM

    Oh, Mary L., Glenda, Susan E., and everyone else, I'm so sorry. So she just went to the bathroom again. She has been eating and drinking alot. I'm so embarassed and sorry. I've been waiting since Sat. and I'm getting tired, but not as tired as Rosie is. Thanks for not thinking I'm a troll and jerking everyone around.
    Kathy

    Posted by: KathyinVA at February 23, 2007 6:11 AM

    Kathy!!!!

    The person I was referring to was Janice who said she was from Marestare.... that's who I thought might just be "jerking" Mary L. around. I need to learn how to type faster.

    (Then Joe posted he thought she (Janice) wasn't for real either.)

    G.

    Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at February 23, 2007 6:12 AM

    Kathy, I did the same thing, at first I thought her water was breaking! We're not getting a very clear picture tonight, I guess it's the weather.

    And of course, we're all so eager for her to foal.

    Ok, really going to bed now.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 23, 2007 6:14 AM

    oh thanks Susan E! just protecting our awesome,awesome Alex. LOL I need a drink and a foal from Rosie,that would be great about now!
    Ive been punished, everyone,I burnt my family's dinner and have a lovely headache! Nothing but "highly noble" comments from me for a long time..LOL

    Posted by: Nancy Jean/Huntington Beach,Ca at February 23, 2007 6:17 AM

    Okay, now even JunJun is meeeee nowwwwwing that it's time to sign off and go to bed (unless I intend to let him send out a message to someone!)

    Night all,
    G.

    Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at February 23, 2007 6:18 AM

    Hey all... I have a question.
    Did you happen to notice at the top of the Happy mare cam, the foal wasn't due 'till march... It's early.
    Rosie's cam says she is overdue...
    Question...
    Do you think the wind blew the stork into the wrong stall????..LOL

    Either way, seems like the weather may be a factor. So many born last night, an early babie...
    I hope this means Rosie will go tonight... Hey she's sticking her tongue out at us...

    Verna

    Posted by: Verna1 at February 23, 2007 6:24 AM

    ##
    Verna,
    Thank you for that!!! I got a giggle from that. I think you might be right about the stork getting blown the wrong way, was suppose to visit Rosie and went to her instead

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 6:28 AM

    The picture of Rosie isn't very good tonight, with a lot of horizontal lines running through it.
    C'mon Rosie! You're starting to look like a huge watermelon teetering on very short legs!

    I'll watch as long as I can stay awake, but the past few nights staying up until 2 or 3 have got me really sleep deprived!

    Give Rosie a nudge, would 'ya Barbaro?!!

    Posted by: Roxy at February 23, 2007 6:35 AM

    ###
    Thank you everyone for understanding my mistake. I can't imagine what it is like for the fathers and family in the waiting rooms. Any little sign just blows the whistle for them. Rest well, Rosie, and when I wake in the morning and if I see a little baby with you, I know Barbaro will be smiling, and I will too. Good night everyone.

    Posted by: KathyinVA at February 23, 2007 6:35 AM

    ##KathyinVA

    You did nothing wrong at all. You are learning all about the ways of a mare and hopefully you will see Rosies baby born.

    I don't think Rosie will go tonight. She tells me so. lol. doesn't like the wind

    Posted by: Mary L Ohio at February 23, 2007 6:41 AM

    ##
    Thank you, Mary L. The ways of a mare and her foal, that's something to think about. I hope the wind blows favorably for Rosie, soon. I will just go to bed now and let what will happen take place in the right time for Rosie. I have appreciated all of your kind words and your help. You have been such a blessing.

    Posted by: KathyinVA at February 23, 2007 6:51 AM

    is this your 3rd night here Verna? I wonder how many of us are lurking at night? Im determined to get back my warm glow from Rosie if I gotta stare at her rear end for another half hour! I need to go back and catch up on Rosie updates,darn it. oh,she's moving around now!

    Posted by: Nancy Jean/Huntington Beach,Ca at February 23, 2007 6:56 AM

    Rosie does seem to be doing her same old thing.
    I am going to watch a little longer, if nothing changes, I'm off to bed. Maybe that way she can have it...LOL
    Good to be with you all here tonight.

    #####
    KathyinVA, don't feel bad at all. If you would have heard all the questions and comments flying for/at Mary, you would just feel like one of the gang. I don't think there was a question that wasn't asked and Mary answered every one. I'm not prone to jumping to quickly, since I used to raise Boxers, but I have to admit, I had a few very tense moments there myself. Especially when that darling little foal just fell over and didn't get back up. It just lay there for what seemed forever. Mary came back and let us all know mama had some drugs to calm her and they were probably in the foals system and he was just a bit out of it. I stopped holding my breath... that one scared me. But Mary came thru and talked us all thru it. didn't ya' Mary, don't be bashful, you know you did. And we thank you over and over again.

    Verna

    Posted by: Verna1 at February 23, 2007 7:07 AM

    Yea 3 or 4 nights now. I've lost count from sleep deprevation... LOL
    She is really working that nest tonight, that is the most I've seen her put into it since I've been watching.
    Stupid dial up and old computer. I"m sure she will do something else before this posts...LOL
    Verna

    Posted by: Verna1 at February 23, 2007 7:22 AM

    I love you, Barbaro.


    Though I'm one of the lucky ones who've felt your soul touch mine in the weeks following January 29, not a day goes by when I don't miss hearing the words, another comfortable night.


    In those words was serenity, in those words was peace. In those words was the promise of hope, of freedom, of perseverance. Of you, here, among us, a little longer, maybe a lot longer, maybe till your babies ran among us too.


    Another comfortable night.


    Nobody will ever know why you jumped the fence to heaven on January 29, to run forever with Ruffian and the rest of her high, fast crowd. Not you, not me, not the man in the moon, and surely not Dr Richardson or your dear ones Gretchen and Roy Jackson.


    As God is my witness, Barbaro, I will love you always. No matter your way too early retirement, your losing poker hand with laminitis. No matter; your spirit will be in my heart forever.


    I love you like a star struck kid. Will love you for the rest of my days. Love you as the champion you proved yourself to be every breath, every stretch run, every uneventful recovery in the pool at New Bolton Center.


    What is in the heart of a Champion that pulls us like oceans to the moon? That calls us to roar down the stretch? To be loving rebels at the edges of modern medicine? What was in your heart on April 29, 2003 that started a revolution in ours?


    I'll tell you how you did it. You loved us. I know there are those who will write that off as sentimentality, but you and I know different. Because you were different. You walked the heroes walk in your life, and in so doing you shook the reins in ours.


    The idol in today's culture asks nothing of us except our devotion. The idol starts and finishes the same, and we do, too, in our passive voyeurism, feeding off the glitter and the gold.



    Heroes are different. We don't see a lot of them these days. That's why you stood out like a diamond on a velvet sea. The true hero, like you, Barbaro, is revered not just for his qualities and achievements, but for what he asks us to be. A hero opens the door to our humanity, challenging us to walk the hero's walk with him. Like you asked us to on January 29 when your story changed ours forever.



    We love you, Barbaro. We love that you remind us that a hero's heart beats in us, strong and sure. We love that you called us to our own humanity and reminded us about loyalty. Reminded us about love. Of redemption. And, finally, about gratitude.


    Thank you, beautiful Barbaro. We will never forget. And we'll take care of the horses. We promise. We'll do it for you.

    Posted by: Susan in Saratoga at February 23, 2007 7:47 AM

    Thank you, Susan in Saratoga, for saying those words to Barbaro. Thank you for articulating so clearly why we love Barbaro and why we will love him forever. Thank you for reiterating our promise to Barbaro. He made each of us a better person. And in return -- it's a small thing to ask of us really -- we can commit ourselves help the horses and to support research into equine health issues, particularly laminitis. While Barbaro was here, his mere presence, his every breath, was a beacon of hope for horses less fortunate. With every swish of his tail, he was a magnet drawing people to contribute to the Barbaro fund. Now that he is gone, we have to pick up the gauntlet and run with it in his stead. We must finish the race for him. He never let us down. And we won't let him down. Ever.

    Jackie in VA
    FOB forever

    Posted by: Jackie in Arlington VA at February 23, 2007 8:24 AM

    martita, Susan in Saratoga, thank you for the painted and wise words today...

    Good night, sweet Barbaro, I'll be dreaming of you.

    Posted by: Shelley in CA at February 23, 2007 9:33 AM

    Good morning all

    I hope everyone has a good day. I hope Rosie has a good day.

    On the subject of synthetic surfaces, I find it interesting that our Derby winner, Sir Percy, may be having an outing on the polytrack over here Sir Percy assured of Lingfield run if Dubai trip fails to materialise". I think this would be the first time a Derby winner has run on the allweather in England and quite an endorsement of the track.

    Posted by: Liz (UK) at February 23, 2007 9:55 AM

    Good morning, Barbaro! Good morning, Alex! Good morning, fellow Fans!

    ###
    Susan in Saratoga - Thank you for the most beautiful words to start my day. I was smiling through the tears for, yes, I have been forever changed for the good by my love of Barbaro. I hope I can still say that when I'm ready to cross the Rainbow Bridge to finally meet him.

    Alex, thank you again for all you do for us. I don't post here but once or twice a day but it's still my lifeline at times. Because of this site I will be meeting several other FsOB here in Maine soon.

    Marg
    Proud Fan of Barbaro forever

    Posted by: Marg in Maine at February 23, 2007 11:09 AM

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